cycworker
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Post by cycworker on Jan 17, 2022 0:28:14 GMT
I want to have a better backup of my photos. I'm using the free version of One Drive, so I could, in theory, spend $2 a month and upgrade to the version of that which gives me 100GB.
How much IS 100GB?
Anything available that's unlimited storage?
I am not loving my Wester Digital external hard drive. I can never remember how to start it, and truthfully, I would rather not have a password (I know I need one with OneDrive, too, but it's the same as my email password). It's just unnecessary. I've heard with the Western Digital EHDs, if you have to change your password because you can't remember it, the whole thing resets & you lose all your data. That is NOT useful for me.
I could get a thumbdrive, too... not sure how big I would need though. Big.
How do you handle backing up your photos in an affordable way?
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Post by lanena on Jan 17, 2022 0:43:56 GMT
I use a WD Passport with 2 TB on my Mac and a similar one for my desktop PC, and no password is needed. I just plug it into my device and copy my photos over. I have nearly 20 years of digital photos, so I wanted to have lots of space for growth.
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scrappinwithoutpeas
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Post by scrappinwithoutpeas on Jan 17, 2022 1:07:15 GMT
I do the same as lanena . DH and I each have Passports that we use for photo backups. He takes thousands when we travel or for other events, but I take a more every-type photos. Anyway, we each end up with a lot of photos. I think mine is 2TB and his is 1 (only because mine is newer than his), but I think he has 2 Passports now.
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Post by joblackford on Jan 17, 2022 1:25:18 GMT
I would look into both. I use google photos to back up every photo on my phone, my apple products do the photostream thing so that's another layer of redundancy, and then I have 2 EHDs that I use with Time Machine on my Mac but I also copy all my photos onto those each month. It's just the same process that the people above me mentioned, no password, just copying files over to have them in another place. Both are WD brand, but different models - Passport and Element I think. Drives eventually fail so the more places you have things the less likely you are to lose everything. But they can't help you unless you are backing up regularly.
Solid state drives are more stable than spinning hard drives, I gather. If you get a 2TB solid state drive (or better yet, two) and copy all of your precious things onto those on a regular basis (weekly or monthly or at least quarterly, depending on how many photos you take and how many other places are backing them up) you'd have a little more insurance against loss.
I know some people here use Backblaze or another offsite backup service. I haven't gotten around to getting that set up yet.
I'm curious if the WD password you have is a setting that can be changed. But I'd also suggest you look into using a password manager like LastPass for everything in your life. The passwords it generates/saves are far more secure than anything you can make up and you don't have to remember them.
But in the meantime, yes, I would suggest you at least set up OneDrive so you have a cloud based backup. $24 a year is pretty cheap. Then you can figure out an EHD that works for you in addition to that.
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cycworker
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Post by cycworker on Jan 17, 2022 1:25:43 GMT
Thanks ladies. Ok, first thing I'm going to do is see if my WD Passport will work. Another question - how long have you had them? I read something about them wearing out? Have you experienced that? scrappinwithoutpeas lanena
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Post by lanena on Jan 17, 2022 2:11:36 GMT
I’ve had the one for my PC about three years. I got the one for my Mac last summer when I was doing Miss Freddy’s Backup Bootcamp. Apparently the average life span of an EHD is about five years. I also have all of my photos organized in folders by year in OneDrive. My EHDs are copies of those folders. It was worthwhile for me to pay the premium for OneDrive since the annual fee allows me to have Word, Excel, PowerPoint and One Note. If you are already paying for Amazon Prime, you can back up your photos there instead. I feel good about having a cloud-based system plus two physical drives. My photos automatically go from my phone to OneDrive, so I can delete them from iCloud if I wish to save space. I still haven’t taken that step yet…next on my list.
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scrappinwithoutpeas
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Post by scrappinwithoutpeas on Jan 17, 2022 2:50:55 GMT
cycworker, I've had mine for about 2 years and it's doing fine. DH's older one is at least 6 years old (maybe more) and doing fine. I think his newer one is about 3 and also OK.
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Post by wendifful on Jan 17, 2022 6:42:08 GMT
Thanks ladies. Ok, first thing I'm going to do is see if my WD Passport will work. Another question - how long have you had them? I read something about them wearing out? Have you experienced that? _@scrappinwithoutpeas I can't speak to that specific EHD, but computer hard drives do wear out/go bad and should be replaced. (With a quick google, it seems the experts say anywhere from 3-5 years on the conservative side and 5-7 years on the liberal side.) I think of it like auto/house insurance: no one likes to pay their insurance bill, and there's a good chance you may never need it that badly, but if something catastrophic DOES happen, man are you glad you have it. With that in mind, I'd say to think of the loss/grief you'd have if you lost everything and act accordingly. I don't mean go hungry or devote 50% of your monthly living budget to backup equipment/software, but don't skimp either, because on the off chance you need it, you're gonna want to make sure it's good. This has been referenced on other threads about backup, but think of the 3-2-1 rule of backup. 3: Create one primary backup and two copies of your data. 2: Save your backups to two different types of media. 1: Keep at least one backup file offsite. The point of the 3-2-1 backup rule is to avoid putting all your eggs in one basket. If you have multiple versions/types/locations, you have a greater chance of being able to recover your data when something happens. In regards to your question about OneDrive, I don't think there is any unlimited (high-res) storage that is free, but I could be wrong. Data storage costs money, so companies don't want to give that away for free. While your results may vary (depending on the quality/size of your photos), I just took a look at some of my photo storage and in one main folder, I have 139GB of files, which is 11,673 photos. Looking at my individual photos, they range from about 1KB-1.7KB, so for me, 100GB would be about around 9K photos.
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Post by wordyphotogbabe on Jan 17, 2022 18:13:40 GMT
I'm a digital scrapper so back-ups are really important to me. I pay extra to back up my photos on Google Photo so that I can tag people and search for photos by locations, dates, etc. I also have my photos on the cloud, too, but I don't keep all my photos on there (or on my phone). I just keep the "highlights" photos on my phone and weed through it (and the cloud) monthly. I upload my finished layouts to Shutterfly and use that as their secondary back-up. I have one WD 1T EHD, and I just bought a WD 2T EHD. All of my photos, layouts, and scrap product are backed up on both. The newest one is always my primary, and then I transfer things over to the older one every 4-6 weeks. They tend to last 3-4 years before they get dropped, the cord gets loose, and/or they get slow so I buy a new one at that time but always have 2 at home. When I travel overnight anywhere, I take my primary EHD with me. It's silly, especially as I have everything backed up, but it just makes me feel better. It is the most important thing I own.
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Post by bethquiroz on Jan 17, 2022 18:24:56 GMT
Amazon Prime has photo storage for free, no matter the size or file type. I use it for all of my RAW files from my DSLR, as well as photos from my phone.
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Post by cbscrapper on Jan 24, 2022 2:20:19 GMT
Amazon Prime has photo storage for free, no matter the size or file type. I use it for all of my RAW files from my DSLR, as well as photos from my phone. Yep - I use Amazon Prime to back up my photos, and I also have 2 external hard drives so I have an extra if/when one goes bad. I also have all my photos on my laptop.
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Post by jediannie on Jan 24, 2022 3:41:44 GMT
As a former network administrator/tech support person: please please PLEASE don't rely on just an external hard drive for your photo backups. External hard drives fail, even if you have one that's been fine for 5+ years, they will fail and it can be very expensive to recover data from a dead hard drive (if they can even recover anything). Find a cloud storage solution that works for your system. There are tons out there, Google photos, Amazon photos, Shutterfly, Flickr, etc. I have 2 external hard drives and 3 cloud drives I backup to. Is that overkill? Yeah, probably, but I've had online storage sites close down and I've had to download all my data from those sites and find alternate solutions.
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Post by dawnnikol on Jan 24, 2022 13:26:03 GMT
As a former network administrator/tech support person: please please PLEASE don't rely on just an external hard drive for your photo backups. External hard drives fail, even if you have one that's been fine for 5+ years, they will fail and it can be very expensive to recover data from a dead hard drive (if they can even recover anything). Find a cloud storage solution that works for your system. There are tons out there, Google photos, Amazon photos, Shutterfly, Flickr, etc. I have 2 external hard drives and 3 cloud drives I backup to. Is that overkill? Yeah, probably, but I've had online storage sites close down and I've had to download all my data from those sites and find alternate solutions. I had my external HD fail about 18 months ago. It had all of my photos and videos from the prior 10 years on it and I thought it was all gone. It hurt so much to think it was all gone. Videos and photos from my kids since they were born... all gone. F that. I was able to recover it and now I pay for a 2nd external and Backblaze who will back up my externals and my CPU forever. My other service was deleting things that it couldn't "see" after a few months. Doesn't help with my external HD kept disconnecting from my cpu, so I didn't know it wasn't "seeing" them. Definitely my fault and old hardware. I say use all the backups you can!
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Post by kitbop on Jan 24, 2022 19:30:38 GMT
We have two 1TB SSD external harddrives. Being SSDs, they are SO MUCH more reliable, so much less vulnerable to breaking. Not to mention so. much. faster. If you can afford the extra money (we got ours at Costco), it's worth it.
So I use Amazon prime + 2 ssd back ups.
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