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Post by guzismom on Jan 18, 2022 15:43:55 GMT
I buy from Penzy’s and Hobby Lobby. I don’t feel my boycotting would impact anyone but me. It impacts my soul....therefore, in 2022 I have decided to give up both HL and Chik-Fil-A. Chik-Fil-A is harder. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 18, 2022 15:47:05 GMT
I felt like that email was a bit much, had that been a republican sending an email saying something as derogatory about democrats it would have made the nightly news. What does everyone say about kindness and putting everyone in the same basket? I just feel like it was a little to far over the edge. I try to not deal with the far left or the far right and engage in the behavior of either of those sides. As long as there is that type of anger on EITHER side I don't think we will ever find a common ground of being nice to each other. You must not be on Trump's email list (or pretty much any other Republican politician). They send those types of emails daily. |
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Post by MerryMom on Jan 18, 2022 15:49:04 GMT
I try to avoid extreme political views. I read some of them, but others, I stop reading if it is too adversarial. That’s the thing, though. Voting should be easily accessible to everyone who is eligible. That’s the opposite of extreme. Making voting more difficult or impossible is what should be adversarial. I support what he said, and I agree with many of his emails, but that particular email had a tone that I didn’t like. Despite that, I bought more spices from Penzeys to make up for business he might have lost once that email got picked up by right wing media, etc. I do my best to not spend my money in certain businesses ( like Hobby Lobby). |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 18, 2022 15:55:49 GMT
I felt like that email was a bit much, had that been a republican sending an email saying something as derogatory about democrats it would have made the nightly news. What does everyone say about kindness and putting everyone in the same basket? I just feel like it was a little to far over the edge. I try to not deal with the far left or the far right and engage in the behavior of either of those sides. As long as there is that type of anger on EITHER side I don't think we will ever find a common ground of being nice to each other. You must not be on Trump's email list (or pretty much any other Republican politician). They send those types of emails daily. I’m going to start posting them in response to comments like this. I understand that people who never see them would not believe how heinous and obnoxious they are. They shouldn’t be unaware. |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jan 18, 2022 16:00:11 GMT
You must not be on Trump's email list (or pretty much any other Republican politician). They send those types of emails daily. I’m going to start posting them in response to comments like this. I understand that people who never see them would not believe how heinous and obnoxious they are. They shouldn’t be unaware. Part of the problem is perception. Objectively, nothing in that email should be considered Far Left. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 18, 2022 16:01:03 GMT
You must not be on Trump's email list (or pretty much any other Republican politician). They send those types of emails daily. I’m going to start posting them in response to comments like this. I understand that people who never see them would not believe how heinous and obnoxious they are. They shouldn’t be unaware. Exactly. I don't read every one, but I have stayed on the list just to keep an eye on what is being said. In addition to the inflammatory rhetoric that he sends, I find it interesting that his supporters seem to really like the idea that they will get "trump donor cards that show their dedicated support to your movement" and the wording that apparently sucks them in and gets them to donate. |
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 18, 2022 16:02:10 GMT
I’m going to start posting them in response to comments like this. I understand that people who never see them would not believe how heinous and obnoxious they are. They shouldn’t be unaware. Part of the problem is perception. Objectively, nothing in that email should be considered Far Left. This weekend I was reading some book reviews and it seems that any book that mentions race or sexual identify in any way is considered far left propaganda these days. So, it doesn't surprise me that voting rights is also considered to be far left, sadly. |
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Post by thundergal on Jan 18, 2022 16:02:24 GMT
<— <— <— Yes, irony alert:His political diatribes are way too wordy. Heaping tablespoons, when pinches would work better. I see what you did there and I appreciate it. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 18, 2022 16:13:40 GMT
I’m going to start posting them in response to comments like this. I understand that people who never see them would not believe how heinous and obnoxious they are. They shouldn’t be unaware. Exactly. I don't read every one, but I have stayed on the list just to keep an eye on what is being said. In addition to the inflammatory rhetoric that he sends, I find it interesting that his supporters seem to really like the idea that they will get "trump donor cards that show their dedicated support to your movement" and the wording that apparently sucks them in and gets them to donate. Even better now, this Twitter account archives every single one issued. mobile.twitter.com/trumpemail?lang=en |
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Post by andreasmom on Jan 18, 2022 16:32:00 GMT
I buy from Penzy’s and Hobby Lobby. I don’t feel my boycotting would impact anyone but me. It impacts my soul....therefore, in 2022 I have decided to give up both HL and Chik-Fil-A. Chik-Fil-A is harder. Right there with you. |
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Post by peace on Jan 18, 2022 16:42:41 GMT
I started buying from Penzeys years ago because I loved their spices, but I’ve stayed for their politics. If a business can advertise that they’re Christian-run, then Penzeys can advertise that they’re a bunch of radical leftist hippies. Everyone has a target audience. yep. This is me. I bought family gifts this year from them because of them taking a stand. |
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Post by bratkar on Jan 18, 2022 17:39:16 GMT
I felt like that email was a bit much, had that been a republican sending an email saying something as derogatory about democrats it would have made the nightly news. What does everyone say about kindness and putting everyone in the same basket? I just feel like it was a little to far over the edge. I try to not deal with the far left or the far right and engage in the behavior of either of those sides. As long as there is that type of anger on EITHER side I don't think we will ever find a common ground of being nice to each other. You must not be on Trump's email list (or pretty much any other Republican politician). They send those types of emails daily. Oh HE!! no.... as someone once said to me, I curate my own social media experience (email included) therefore those have never graced my email. And it sounds like I am grateful for that. |
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Post by sassyangel on Jan 18, 2022 17:59:57 GMT
You must not be on Trump's email list (or pretty much any other Republican politician). They send those types of emails daily. Oh HE!! no.... as someone once said to me, I curate my own social media experience (email included) therefore those have never graced my email. And it sounds like I am grateful for that. Which is fine. Honestly, your life probably is much better without seeing them.  But, conversely making statements like “if republicans did this” due to ignorance of the actual existence of them doing just that, is probably not a good idea either. 😉 Especially with todays Republican Party, where all bets are off with their behavior. |
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Post by bratkar on Jan 18, 2022 18:02:35 GMT
I felt like that email was a bit much, had that been a republican sending an email saying something as derogatory about democrats it would have made the nightly news. What does everyone say about kindness and putting everyone in the same basket? I just feel like it was a little to far over the edge. I try to not deal with the far left or the far right and engage in the behavior of either of those sides. As long as there is that type of anger on EITHER side I don't think we will ever find a common ground of being nice to each other. The things he’s angry about we *should* all be angry about, though. They’re not extreme views, if we are simply decent people, who care about fairness and equality and having a viable, functioning democracy. I guess it wasn't the body of the email and what he had to say so much as it was the declaration of ALL REPUBLICANS ARE RASIST as the header of the email. Either way, I have bought from Bill since the 1980's when it was a hand written catalog, His vanilla has made some of the best vanilla extracts ever. And will probably continue buying what I can't grow here. |
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Post by bratkar on Jan 18, 2022 18:07:15 GMT
Oh HE!! no.... as someone once said to me, I curate my own social media experience (email included) therefore those have never graced my email. And it sounds like I am grateful for that. Which is fine. Honestly, your life probably is much better without seeing them.  But, conversely making statements like “if republicans did this” due to ignorance of the actual existence of them doing just that, is probably not a good idea either. 😉 Especially with todays Republican Party, where all bets are off with their behavior. Very good point... I'll admit I am very middle ground and agree with things on both sides... and disagree with things on both sides too. I wish there was a common sense party I could support... |
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Post by hop2 on Jan 18, 2022 20:14:22 GMT
I try to avoid extreme political views. I read some of them, but others, I stop reading if it is too adversarial. That’s the thing, though. Voting should be easily accessible to everyone who is eligible. That’s the opposite of extreme. Making voting more difficult or impossible is what should be adversarial. The extreme part for me was the title of this past weekends email - for me the title was ‘Republicans are racist weekend’ I can’t say I haven’t thought that lately, I mean all the voting bills they are jamming through state legislatures right now definitely disenfranchise non white voters, if that isn’t racist what is it? But it sure is the quiet part most don’t usually say out loud. My DD & I were 😳😂🤣 over it on Friday. At this point I don’t have a rebuttal to the statement Penzeys made. PS when I’m not shopping at Penzeys I’m shopping at Savory spice shop. I also have a lot of favs there. |
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Post by hop2 on Jan 18, 2022 20:17:10 GMT
I felt like that email was a bit much, had that been a republican sending an email saying something as derogatory about democrats it would have made the nightly news. What does everyone say about kindness and putting everyone in the same basket? I just feel like it was a little to far over the edge. I try to not deal with the far left or the far right and engage in the behavior of either of those sides. As long as there is that type of anger on EITHER side I don't think we will ever find a common ground of being nice to each other. You must not be on Trump's email list (or pretty much any other Republican politician). They send those types of emails daily. Oh I’ve seen some Yugely derogatory email from the Trump & friends I can tell you they go way beyond calling everyone a socialist that’s for sure. Try as I might I can’t seem to get off that email list |
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Post by purplebee on Jan 18, 2022 23:01:44 GMT
there is no moral equivalency here I'm not sure what in that could be construed as "far left." Racial equality and voting rights really shouldn't be partisan issues. When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? - Pete Seeger I love Penzey’s and buy from them all the time. I also loved Pete Seeger! |
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Post by tincin on Jan 20, 2022 2:55:28 GMT
For those who don't receive Penzeys emails, the first part of this one is a promotion where some spices are discounted and proceeds from their sales will be donated to BLM. Then, the closing paragraphs: I'm not sure what in that could be construed as "far left." Racial equality and voting rights really shouldn't be partisan issues. Perhaps what people are really offended by is that it doesn't mince words in calling people out for their choices. Anyway, Bill from Penzeys has clearly made a calculated choice to attract some customers and repel others, as is his right. It hasn't seemed to hurt his business so far. There was recently a minor kerfuffle here in Houston about a restaurant in a very blue part of town (not far from our Penzey's store, BTW) that chose to advertise on its sign that masks aren't required "unless you look like Nancy Pelosi." Clearly the business owners have the right to post that on their sign; whether it was smart given the neighborhood their business is in remains to be seen. Voting rights shouldn’t be a partisan issue but as long as republicans are fine with their party doing all they can to disenfranchise voters that aren’t white it will remain such. What I will never understand is how a POC can be in that party. |
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Post by tincin on Jan 20, 2022 3:02:26 GMT
I buy from Penzy’s and Hobby Lobby. I don’t feel my boycotting would impact anyone but me. I don’t see it as boycotting, since I agree with you - my puddly purchases don’t mean anything. It’s more about aligning with my beliefs, regardless of outcome. And saying it. Reading an article about the hostages in the Texas synagogue led to searching on Elie Wiesel. This quote popped up: “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men or women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must—at that moment—become the center of the universe.” [Elie Wiesel in Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech 12/10/86.] Of course that’s different than not buying a pen. It just fits into the same broad category [for me], ranging from the tiniest, even inconsequential behaviors to the big stuff. Boycotting them for your puddly purchases does affect them when hundreds of thousands of us do it together. In fact that is the only time it will make a difference. I’ve seen it happen here in my area when a partner of a group of restaurant owners insulted people who build cars and informed them he didn’t need their business in the establishments he was part owner of. Boycott ensued and it didn’t take long until the other three forced him out and paid for an advertising campaign to be certain everyone knew he was no longer affiliated with the group. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jan 20, 2022 8:29:53 GMT
For those who don't receive Penzeys emails, the first part of this one is a promotion where some spices are discounted and proceeds from their sales will be donated to BLM. Then, the closing paragraphs: I'm not sure what in that could be construed as "far left." Racial equality and voting rights really shouldn't be partisan issues. Perhaps what people are really offended by is that it doesn't mince words in calling people out for their choices. Anyway, Bill from Penzeys has clearly made a calculated choice to attract some customers and repel others, as is his right. It hasn't seemed to hurt his business so far. There was recently a minor kerfuffle here in Houston about a restaurant in a very blue part of town (not far from our Penzey's store, BTW) that chose to advertise on its sign that masks aren't required "unless you look like Nancy Pelosi." Clearly the business owners have the right to post that on their sign; whether it was smart given the neighborhood their business is in remains to be seen. Exactly. His views are really not “far left” unless you’re a republicans trampling all over the rights and well being of others. |
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Post by circusjohnson on Jan 20, 2022 13:59:25 GMT
Those are not extreme views. I have never bought from them but I am putting in an order today!! I will support anyone who supports voting rights!
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Post by sabrinae on Jan 20, 2022 14:31:26 GMT
Those are not extreme views. I have never bought from them but I am putting in an order today!! I will support anyone who supports voting rights! They do have really nice spices. They are always fresh and have a nice strong flavor. So it’s double win — good spices and supporting what you believe in. |
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Post by lucyg on Jan 20, 2022 17:15:11 GMT
Those are not extreme views. I have never bought from them but I am putting in an order today!! I will support anyone who supports voting rights! They do have really nice spices. They are always fresh and have a nice strong flavor. So it’s double win — good spices and supporting what you believe in. And they always include freebies in your order. One time I forgot to order something I wanted, and when the box came, it included a couple of packets of that very seasoning. Like magic. |
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