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Post by kmage on Feb 1, 2022 4:58:14 GMT
Lately I have started stamping quite a bit in my scrapbooks, and trying to use my stamps to make tags, etc instead of buying every ephemera pack that comes along. I mostly use Distress ink and have also started using the Distress Oxide ink, because I love the colors. Mixed media is something I would like to try as well. I was looking up some blending techniques and came across a crafter that seemed to suggest that Distress inks and particularly Oxides would fade over time. (of course now I can't find this video again) This article www.kimcrick.com/pages/are-distress-inks-by-tim-holtz-ranger-lightfast shows how they are not lightfast, but I am not really worried about that with my scrapbooks, as they do not sit in direct sunlight. An article in Ellen Houston's blog talks about the difference between Ranger Distress and Ranger Archival. I did not know that Ranger Archival were oil based. Does that make a huge difference? They both state "Fade-resistant". This article states that "One of the reason for the popularity of distress inks is that it creates an aged effect that never fades over time." discover.hubpages.com/art/The-Differenc-Between-Distress-And-Ink-Oxide-Inks Do you think that is true? Has anyone had Distress ink items that they used in their scrapbook fade? I guess I don't mind if the smaller items fade a bit, but I've used letter stamps to make big titles and I'd rather those didn't fade away. I'd rather use my Cricut or Thickers then. If you stamp in your scrapbook, or make a lot of mixed media backgrounds, are you concerned at all about fading? (I am not worried about 200 years from now)
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Post by PaperAngel on Feb 1, 2022 5:32:38 GMT
I exclusively incorporate stamping into scrapping (ie basic stamping/stenciling/inking edges) & only use pigment inks (specifically Tsukineko brands) for their archival qualities. My current favorites are VersaFine Clair (link to Blink Art Materials website) for non-splotchy/crisp images/words & saturated/intense color (that is still embossable minutes later) & clear VersaMark (link to cube at SB.com) for tone-on-tone stamping & embossing.
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Post by Ryann on Feb 3, 2022 16:47:05 GMT
Not scrapbooking, but I have cards that I made 10+ years ago that were stamped using Memento inks (by Tsukineko). I ran across them recently and they are all holding up well - no fading at all. I believe they are dye inks and archival. kmage
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Post by infochick on Feb 3, 2022 17:41:51 GMT
I've been following this thread as I'm quite curious. I tend to use Ranger Archival for my stamping of words, etc. but still have a lot of distress ink in my scrapbooks for mixed media, etc. Like you kmage, I am not necessarily concerned with the lightfastness as my scrapbooks are closed, but am curious to see if they fade or break down in some other way. I have some layouts with distress that would be at least 10 years old and I haven't noticed anything, but back then I would have been using them in small doses.
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Post by papersilly on Feb 3, 2022 19:40:29 GMT
i think they will last a long time especially if they are not exposed to direct sunlight. i have no doubt that my adhesives will give out long before my stamped images will. for reference, i have the distress inks and stampin up ink pads.
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Post by hmp on Feb 3, 2022 22:04:01 GMT
I don’t expect them to last. I do think they will endure at a sufficient standard for YOUR lifetime. I’ve cared for scrapbooks more than 100 years old. It’s not pretty to see them deteriorate even when they’re kept under the most stringent of environmental conditions for temperature, humidity & lighting. Even Kodak defined a lifetime as 50 years. Take that “ephemera” derived from ephemeral very seriously.
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Post by mamagidget on Feb 4, 2022 4:01:25 GMT
I have some cards and tags made with Distress inks before my son was born, and he's just shy of 10. They haven't faded (but haven't been in direct sunlight).
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Post by grammadee on Feb 4, 2022 4:15:22 GMT
I think the issue with Distress and Oxides and other water reactive products is not so much sunlight as moisture. I remember being really disappointed when I put a water based sealer on top of paint tinted with distress inks, and the colour just wicked away. If I am doing a canvas or something that will be out in light, I now seal it with glaze or some other medium that doesn't affect the colour. I sometimes use a clear glaze between colours as well, to reduce muddy mixing.
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Post by Jessica on Feb 4, 2022 22:39:40 GMT
I use distress inks a lot for color stamping I do on my pages but I haven't noticed any fading when I've looked back at them. grammadee makes a good point about being reactive with water so that needs to be known. I'm honestly not too worried about it but I can see how it would concern others. I also use a mixture of the following based on my mood and colors: HA, Paper Person, Ranger Archival, Versafine/Versamark, and CTMH. For what its worth the Ranger Archival Black is my favorite black and one of my favorite reds is Carnation Red from them as well.
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Post by joblackford on Feb 4, 2022 23:17:26 GMT
It'a not something that would worry me. The decoration (or even the titles) on pages are not as important as the story and the photos, especially as time goes on. I doubt that they would fade completely away in a closed album or otherwise deteriorate in such a way as to totally ruin the page.
I don't even know if it would be noticeable if they did fade moderately. I say that in part because we just moved some furniture in a sunny room at my in laws and we were gobsmacked by how much the flooring had faded in comparison to the parts hidden under the furniture - the photos I took look fake the line is so evident. But it was only evident because we had the protected parts to compare with. No one had noticed the fading at all.
Might the colors shift and fade over time - maybe? but will you notice or care? I vote for probably not. And other elements will probably fare as badly or worse.
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