Loydene
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Post by Loydene on Feb 13, 2022 15:36:33 GMT
I created a One Sheet Wonder. The pieces look good on the cards -- but I failed to consider matting for the pieces and in the current size they take up the whole room on the card. Cutting each piece down, then cutting a mat is totally possible -- but defeats the purpose for which I created the OSW (ease of creating a bunch of "cute enough" cards to teach to my "low skills scrapbook group")**
Question -- and it is probably math -- but .... can I just cut down the original 8.5x11 OSW base by 1/4 inch (or soon), then re-create the OSW pattern on the smaller size base? In my mind, and poor math skills, this seems like it would create "room" around each piece for a mat (and my plan is to use the first pattern AS the mat).
**I don't say that to suggest I'm any sort of scrapbook queen -- I totally admit my very low creativity quotient but I do claim some technical skills. The "low skills scrapbook group" is a neighborhood group and I've just moved in to the neighborhood. I'm trying to be a good group member and add something to the group -- but their skills base is pretty low (some of them have trouble with adhesive!) and I don't want to waste my time with "three balloon shapes punched out of cheap typing paper pushed around a white card blank and some balloon lines and a sentiment hand written"
UPDATE: The group appeared to be interested in learning this technique. So - I cut my 1st draft (as above ie: 1/2 inch from 2 sides of an 8.5x11 sheet) --- and it just wasn't "right". It was "okay" but would require too much trimming to be a "legitimate" template. So -- I cut 1 inch off 2 sides of the 8.5x11 sheet -- and it worked better. Much less trimming required.
I'm still not thrilled with the templates (1 for mat, 2nd template for pattern paper). One reason might be that even with a mat, the end pattern still looks pretty plain; 2nd reason is that the mat size still needs a slight bit of trimming to accommodate itself better to the pattern paper. Anyway ... I'm still frustrated with these templates; I'm frustrated with the process; I'm frustrated with the end product; I wish to hell I hadn't suggested this to the group! I will forge on!
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Post by infochick on Feb 13, 2022 22:37:28 GMT
I’m not a one sheet wonder expert, and it would totally depend upon how much time you want to devote to this, but I have found it is sometimes easier to just figure it out myself and do tons of prep for a class. I used to teach cardmaking to various skill levels and for me working it all out and then doing the cutting for everyone was easier.
I would go with everything prepped and paper clipped together. The participants felt successful and everyone kept up easily. And I would give detailed instructions in case anyone wanted to replicate it at home after.
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Loydene
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Post by Loydene on Feb 13, 2022 23:05:37 GMT
Thanks -- but this isn't for any sort of pay or recognition ... and it is to help grow skills. I'm presenting a project in a week where I'm willing to cut everything - it is just a project. The One Sheet Wonder is intended to provide a simple path.
Yes -- clearly from the response here -- I'm going to just cut it out as I have plotted it, to see if it will work. (But I am the same person who, while sewing, tried to insert a facing into a sleeve .... 12 times. It was wrong every time -- and HOW can inserting a facing into a sleeve be wrong 12 times one who actually sews would ask ... I have no f*cking clue, I respond ... but it wasn't right 12 times! - I'm still the same person ... perhaps hardened -- so I thought I'd ask some people who might have some math skills before I just dig in!)
Thank you for your kind attention.
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Post by jediannie on Feb 14, 2022 0:44:58 GMT
I wonder if you post this over on the stamping and card making part of the board they might be able to help? I unfortunately am not sure how to answer your question but they might.
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azcrafty
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Post by azcrafty on Feb 14, 2022 2:49:11 GMT
If I understand the question right it should give you a 1/8 of a mat around your pieces. That's what I like to use myself.
Maybe check out some SheetLoad of cards sketches for future classes you want to teach. I post them on the Stamping site each month.
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Loydene
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Post by Loydene on Feb 14, 2022 4:46:30 GMT
If I understand the question right it should give you a 1/8 of a mat around your pieces. That's what I like to use myself. Thank you -- that is the intent -- you've given me the courage to go ahead and try cutting the diagram I've created! |
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Post by azcrafty on Feb 15, 2022 16:16:54 GMT
If I understand the question right it should give you a 1/8 of a mat around your pieces. That's what I like to use myself. Thank you -- that is the intent -- you've given me the courage to go ahead and try cutting the diagram I've created! Can you share the diagram with us? I love to create multiple cards. |
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Post by robinm on Feb 15, 2022 18:03:42 GMT
Have you checked out The Stamp Doctor? She created a One Sheet Wonder die set. It includes matting and embellishments. She also has one for 6 x 6 paper too. www.stampdoctor.com |
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Loydene
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Post by Loydene on Feb 16, 2022 3:20:16 GMT
Thank you -- that is the intent -- you've given me the courage to go ahead and try cutting the diagram I've created! Can you share the diagram with us? I love to create multiple cards. Thank you for that -- but I am totally known as completely uncreative so I would be embarrassed to share what I've diagramed. I would suggest that you can google "one sheet wonder" (I limited the search to 8.5x11 because I didn't want a larger size) -- there are a myriad of choices -- I just looked at several and chose1/4 sheet elements I enjoyed -- an off set diagonal, bars, blocks --and drafted them out on to a quarter of an 8.5x11 sheet. I didn't reinvent the wheel -- I just took from several different designs! |
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Post by Basket1lady on Feb 16, 2022 14:04:02 GMT
I’ve done a lot of teaching of crafts in my time. My best advice that I can give is to cut out your pieces and try it out. It seems like you are a visual learner and this would help you see what you have. I use copy paper or paper that I don’t like from a pack. I used to do this with QK die cuts as well and a blank white shape always inspired me to find other uses for a bird shape or a tree.
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Loydene
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Post by Loydene on Feb 26, 2022 17:45:33 GMT
Bump for update in original post.
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Post by scrapnnana on Feb 28, 2022 3:27:31 GMT
I haven’t really done much with the One Sheet Wonder concept. However, I have taught classes, for free, where I cut and prepared everything, but still was teaching some concept, so I hope you are able to make this work well for you and your group.
Can you send me a link to your One Sheet Wonder? I see a variety of them on the internet. I can probably use my Silhouette software to size it down, cut it, and hopefully even manage a good, printable pattern for you that you could give your class members. I’m willing to give it a try, anyway.
I didn’t have time last week to play around with this, but I can this week.
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Loydene
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Post by Loydene on Feb 28, 2022 15:05:24 GMT
Thanks scrapnnana -- I was thinking of trying to do that myself -- but I don't know how! In any case, yesterday morning on my walk, I realized it is a "ratio" issue IE: a letter size cut down 1/2 inch on 2 sides is not the SAME, proportionally, as the original. I am NOT a math wonk, so that "math of it all" is still rolling around in my head! But the realization has moved me off a One Sheet Wonder for this group. All OSW templates I see have just the printed paper cuttings and say (essentially) mat and embellish as desired. I am now thinking that "creating a mat" will be part of the lesson -- or I'm changing the technique to teach (I'm thinking a shaker card! LOL Foam adhesive will be a new adventure!) Thank you for your kind offer -- there is no link to send you since it is "on paper" -- I created with a pencil, eraser, and a ruler! (I always thoughtI was older than you -- now it is proven in my mind! LOL!) |
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Post by scrapnnana on Feb 28, 2022 15:36:33 GMT
I haven’t actually tried it, so I’m not sure that I know how, but I think I have figured out a process for it. No guarantee that it would work, but I may still play with the idea. I taught a free card making class for a little over a year, till covid hit. It was a lot of work to figure out what cards to make each month, and I cut everything ahead of time. It was a lot of fun, though, and we developed friendships from it. I have more supplies than I could ever use, including a lot of stamps and dies. I never thought to do the One Sheet Wonder cards, but I wish I’d done that with my group. It would have been perfect for them. I hope it goes well, and that you have a lot of fun. I may still play around with it to see if I can find or create a One Sheet Wonder template and coordinating mats. Another thing you could consider doing with your group is the monthly Sheetload of Cards. azcrafty is on their design team and always makes some fun cards. It’s kind of a similar concept, but might be less work for you. You were right that I’m an older gal, but I might be closer in age to you than you think.  |
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Post by azcrafty on Feb 28, 2022 18:47:41 GMT
Thank you scrapnnana. The SheetLoad of cards sketches are great when you want to create multiple cards. I use it for my monthly cardmaking group. Vicky P. has a video youtu.be/vyK0Rhk5Xg8 where she took 3 6x6 pp to create 12 cards. I recreated it, but I only used one 6x6 paper to create 4 cards. Im planning to teach this one to my group in the future. flic.kr/p/2mEATNB |
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 1, 2022 0:03:23 GMT
So…….I found a One Sheet Wonder pattern that I liked. It was for cutting up one sheet of 12x12. From the OP, I figured the card stock would become the background mats, and the patterned paper pieces should be sized down to fit perfectly within, so I did an internal offset of each piece with my Cameo software, and that worked well. However, when I tried to essentially piece them back together for a slightly smaller One Sheet Wonder, it does not fit together as neatly as the original.The triangular pieces definitely skewed the measurements. You can’t necessarily just shave off a certain amount from two sides and have it work right. At least I couldn’t see how it could be done. I have a set, though, based on the pattern I chose, which I can use as a cutting file and have my Silhouette Cameo cut the card stock mats from one and a half sheets in one or two different colors, (instead of using the paper trimmer), and one sheet for the patterned paper pieces. I can turn it into an SVG cutting file, but it isn’t exactly a true one sheet wonder for the smaller patterned paper pieces. It takes more card stock as a file for an electronic cutter. After playing with it, I don’t think it would work the way you’d hoped for your group. I can see why trimming the paper down on 2 sides still looked a bit off, Loydene. I can get perfect measurements with the electronic cutter, and I can size them all down exactly the same amount. They just don’t size down the way you assume they should. It definitely didn’t go as planned for me, anyway. |
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Post by azcrafty on Mar 1, 2022 1:14:42 GMT
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 1, 2022 2:47:35 GMT
I agree. I think that looks promising. |
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Post by Loydene on Mar 1, 2022 3:59:34 GMT
Thank you scrapnnana . The SheetLoad of cards sketches are great when you want to create multiple cards. I use it for my monthly cardmaking group. Vicky P. has a video youtu.be/vyK0Rhk5Xg8 where she took 3 6x6 pp to create 12 cards. I recreated it, but I only used one 6x6 paper to create 4 cards. Im planning to teach this one to my group in the future. flic.kr/p/2mEATNBYour cards are really beautiful! I especially liked the cut file over the 3 circles! I don't know that I've seen that paper -- what was it from? |
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Post by Loydene on Mar 1, 2022 4:02:56 GMT
So…….I found a One Sheet Wonder pattern that I liked. It was for cutting up one sheet of 12x12. From the OP, I figured the card stock would become the background mats, and the patterned paper pieces should be sized down to fit perfectly within, so I did an internal offset of each piece with my Cameo software, and that worked well. However, when I tried to essentially piece them back together for a slightly smaller One Sheet Wonder, it does not fit together as neatly as the original.The triangular pieces definitely skewed the measurements. You can’t necessarily just shave off a certain amount from two sides and have it work right. At least I couldn’t see how it could be done. I have a set, though, based on the pattern I chose, which I can use as a cutting file and have my Silhouette Cameo cut the card stock mats from one and a half sheets in one or two different colors, (instead of using the paper trimmer), and one sheet for the patterned paper pieces. I can turn it into an SVG cutting file, but it isn’t exactly a true one sheet wonder for the smaller patterned paper pieces. It takes more card stock as a file for an electronic cutter. After playing with it, I don’t think it would work the way you’d hoped for your group. I can see why trimming the paper down on 2 sides still looked a bit off, Loydene . I can get perfect measurements with the electronic cutter, and I can size them all down exactly the same amount. They just don’t size down the way you assume they should. It definitely didn’t go as planned for me, anyway. Thank you, scrapnnana -- I'm feeling a bit "vindicated"! On my morning walk yesterday, I (finally) realized that the issue is one of proportionality -- I couldn't just cut and inch off the top and retain the same proportions as a 8.5x11 sheet (the original size.) And those diagonal lines wreck havoc! |
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Post by azcrafty on Mar 1, 2022 5:57:58 GMT
Thank you scrapnnana . The SheetLoad of cards sketches are great when you want to create multiple cards. I use it for my monthly cardmaking group. Vicky P. has a video youtu.be/vyK0Rhk5Xg8 where she took 3 6x6 pp to create 12 cards. I recreated it, but I only used one 6x6 paper to create 4 cards. Im planning to teach this one to my group in the future. flic.kr/p/2mEATNBYour cards are really beautiful! I especially liked the cut file over the 3 circles! I don't know that I've seen that paper -- what was it from? Thank you. I only used a random pp from my stash. Vicky P used the Paper Rose cozy Christmas I think. |
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 1, 2022 15:20:08 GMT
…You can’t necessarily just shave off a certain amount from two sides and have it work right. At least I couldn’t see how it could be done. …I can see why trimming the paper down on 2 sides still looked a bit off, Loydene . I can get perfect measurements with the electronic cutter, and I can size them all down exactly the same amount. They just don’t size down the way you assume they should. It definitely didn’t go as planned for me, anyway. Thank you, scrapnnana -- I'm feeling a bit "vindicated"! On my morning walk yesterday, I (finally) realized that the issue is one of proportionality -- I couldn't just cut and inch off the top and retain the same proportions as a 8.5x11 sheet (the original size.) And those diagonal lines wreck havoc! You are definitely vindicated, Loydene! And while the diagonal lines really are the biggest issue, I’m not sure it would have sized down right even just with rectangles and squares. It might have. I didn’t try it. The triangles, though, make it highly unlikely, no matter what you do. |
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Post by Loydene on Mar 1, 2022 16:50:33 GMT
You are definitely vindicated, Loydene ! And while the diagonal lines really are the biggest issue, I’m not sure it would have sized down right even just with rectangles and squares. It might have. I didn’t try it. The triangles, though, make it highly unlikely, no matter what you do. When I did it on paper - just cutting 1 inch off each of two sides - even the rectangles didn't size down -- the cut down paper made the rectangles "too short" -- there was a lot of mat that had to be trimmed! I do totally understand why most, if not all, OSW templates are just the pattern paper leaving matting along with embellishment to the person making the cards! Thanks for all your input! I'm going to teach a shaker card - which will, I'm sure, create its own set of hardships! |
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 1, 2022 17:49:05 GMT
Oh, I love shaker cards, and they are pretty easy to do. Your group should enjoy making them.
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