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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2022 21:19:40 GMT
"The National Archives acknowledged Friday it has discussed with the Department of Justice that classified records were found in boxes at Mar-a-Lago after former President Donald Trump left office, according to a letter from Archivist David Ferriero to the House Oversight Committee.
The letter, released by the Archives Friday, also provided more detail on reports that Trump tore up records after being warned not to while he was President.
The Archives arranged for the transport of about 15 boxes of records from Trump's Florida resort last month after the agency sought them from the former President's team. "NARA has identified items marked as classified national security information within the boxes," Ferriero wrote, responding to a question from the House. "Because NARA identified classified information in the boxes, NARA staff has been in communication with the Department of Justice."
"The vast majority of Americans believe Donald Trump removing classified and top-secret documents and storing them in his suite at Mar-a-Lago is “wrong,” “serious,” and warrants a criminal investigation by the Dept. of Justice.
A just-released poll by The Economist and YouGov finds seven in ten Americans (70%) say it’s important for presidents to follow the Presidential Records Act, including 90% of Biden voters and 68% of Trump voters.
But for Republicans, the bar is far higher for Hillary Clinton and her private email server – a far-less serious act."
Where are the cries of "LOCK HIM UP!!" kwim!?!?!?
C'mon. Are you getting the vapors over the egregious handling of CLASSIFIED information?!?!?!
The email controversy received more media coverage than any other topic during the 2016 presidential election. The final State Dept review: "concluded (in 2019) there was "no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information"." And the FBI recommended that the Justice Department decline to prosecute.
Can't wait to see the former president sit through hearing after hearing testifying to Congress under oath with the FBI and the DOJ crawling through his papers, tech, etc.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 18, 2022 21:25:31 GMT
Crickets
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oh yvonne
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Post by oh yvonne on Feb 18, 2022 21:28:40 GMT
Disgraceful. For shame.
Lock👏🏼him👏🏼up👏🏼!
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Post by MissBianca on Feb 18, 2022 21:41:43 GMT
But her…… emails???
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Feb 18, 2022 21:47:35 GMT
Yep. I think I asked this last week...where are all of the "LOCK HER UP!!!" people now? They don't comment, so I take that to mean that they don't give a shit. Hypocrites. All of them.
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 18, 2022 22:07:25 GMT
So, is “But his boxes!” the new “But her emails?” Asking for a friend. ☺️
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Post by Scrapper100 on Feb 18, 2022 22:09:59 GMT
I don't get it this is so much worse but nothing. Most likely nothing will ever come of it either - the thing is how much more is just missing?
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 18, 2022 23:05:41 GMT
Very, very quiet...unless they are saying it is a lie or that their electric bill is more important
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Post by withapea on Feb 18, 2022 23:46:06 GMT
Cognitive dissonance goes hand in hand with the GOP.
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Post by used2scrap on Feb 18, 2022 23:57:51 GMT
I ordered Hillary’s “but her emails” mug. It came today. Made in USA according to the bottom.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 19, 2022 0:33:42 GMT
But her emails......
Let us not forget, she instructed everyone at State to fully cooperate with the investigation!
No subpoenas needed. No claiming the fifth. No noshows..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 1:25:33 GMT
But her emails...... Let us not forget, she instructed everyone at State to fully cooperate with the investigation! No subpoenas needed. No claiming the fifth. No noshows.. Excellent Points!
Real leadership vs. scams, grifts, and bluster.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 1:41:50 GMT
The National Archives confirmed on Friday that it had found classified information among material that President Donald J. Trump had taken with him to his home in Florida when he left office last year and that it had consulted with the Justice Department about the matter. The agency “has identified items marked as classified national security information within the boxes,” according to a letter posted on the National Archives and Record Administration’s website. Last month, the archives retrieved 15 boxes that Mr. Trump took with him to his Mar-a-Lago home from the White House residence when his term ended. The boxes included material subject to the Presidential Records Act, which requires that all documents and records pertaining to official business be turned over to the archives. The items in the boxes included documents, mementos, gifts and letters. The archives did not describe the classified material it found other than to say that it was “classified national security information.” Because the National Archives “identified classified information in the boxes,” the agency “has been in communication with the Department of Justice,” said the letter, written by David S. Ferriero, the national archivist, and sent to Representative Carolyn B. Maloney, Democrat of New York and the chairwoman of the House Oversight Committee, who has been scrutinizing how Mr. Trump handled presidential records. Mr. Trump made attacking Hillary Clinton’s mishandling of national security materials a centerpiece of his 2016 presidential campaign. The latest revelations about Mr. Trump’s own laxity with classified information and his haphazard adherence to federal record-keeping laws have drawn cries of hypocrisy from Democrats. Asked how Republicans would square Mr. Trump’s criticism of Ms. Clinton with his own record, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, which at one point approved a resolution condemning Ms. Clinton for using a private email server while she was secretary of state, did not respond. www.nytimes.com/2022/02/18/us/politics/trump-archives-white-house.htmlIndeed.
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Feb 19, 2022 2:10:29 GMT
Oh just another reason Merrick Garland is a joke of an attorney general.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 19, 2022 2:32:39 GMT
And the rants go on....
He forgets that it is NOT normal for a former president to take classified papers after he is out of office.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 19, 2022 2:38:49 GMT
Yawn
As usual IOKIYAR
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 19, 2022 3:30:51 GMT
Where are the cries of "LOCK HIM UP!!" kwim!?!?!? Yep. I think I asked this last week...where are all of the "LOCK HER UP!!!" people now? They don't comment, so I take that to mean that they don't give a shit. Hypocrites. All of them. This same type of "gotcha" question was asked in the trucker protest thread. It was answered. And then the truth of the answer was dismissed and the people answering were demonized and bullied and the attempt was made to run someone off the board. THAT'S why no one will answer this very obvious question. They see how the actual answer will be received.
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Post by freecharlie on Feb 19, 2022 3:57:31 GMT
Where are the cries of "LOCK HIM UP!!" kwim!?!?!? Yep. I think I asked this last week...where are all of the "LOCK HER UP!!!" people now? They don't comment, so I take that to mean that they don't give a shit. Hypocrites. All of them. This same type of "gotcha" question was asked in the trucker protest thread. It was answered. And then the truth of the answer was dismissed and the people answering were demonized and bullied and the attempt was made to run someone off the board. THAT'S why no one will answer this very obvious question. a gotcha question??? I'm pretty sure it was rhetorical. She didn't expect an answer
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Post by lucyg on Feb 19, 2022 4:20:10 GMT
I haven’t even opened the trucker thread. Is it a requirement that I read all 800 (or whatever) pages of that thread in order to see the answer to a question asked in this one?
And btw OP, my answer to the question in the title of this thread is, they’re mostly gone. We scared them off by asking too many hard questions.
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Post by amom23 on Feb 19, 2022 4:32:35 GMT
It’s obvious Trump’s actions are becoming impossible for even his most die hard minions to defend.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 19, 2022 4:39:11 GMT
It’s been reported that trump may still have files he hasn’t given to the National Archives. If this is true and now that they found top secret classified files in trump’s stash then I think the DOJ/FBI need to serve no knock warrants on his place in FL, NJ, & NY at the same time to make sure all files have been retrieved. The man is a criminal and should be treated as one.
From Yahoo News
“One person familiar with the scramble to pack up Trump's belongings suggested some of the documents Trump piled up in the White House residence may have inadvertently ended up at Mar-a-Lago. But multiple people close to the former president told the Post that "Trump was very secretive about the packing of boxes that were retrieved from Mar-a-Lago last month, and did not let other aides — including some of his most senior advisers — look at them."
And "Trump has been loath to return the boxes of documents he took from the White House, despite repeated efforts by the National Archives to obtain them," starting last summer, when archivists noticed some high-profile records were missing, The New York Times reports. Eventually, "officials at the National Archives threatened to send a letter to Congress or the Department of Justice if he continued to withhold the boxes," and Trump started going through the files in December.”
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Post by anonaname on Feb 19, 2022 4:57:41 GMT
We are suddenly supposed to care when it’s a republican? Funny how you didn’t care when it was a democrat.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 19, 2022 4:58:17 GMT
I haven’t even opened the trucker thread. Is it a requirement that I read all 800 (or whatever) pages of that thread in order to see the answer to a question asked in this one? And btw OP, my answer to the question in the title of this thread is, they’re mostly gone. We scared them off by asking too many hard questions. I have no idea where on that thread her answer is, but my guess - after the question why is it OK for unvaccinated white truckers to cross the border but not migrants and refugees on the southern border? Or, why are the conservatives not losing their collective sh*T over that? Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, pixiechick defended her and accused everyone of dehumanizing poor cindosha. The answer was something along the lines of the liberals are mean, so the conservatives are not going to answer difficult questions. The conservatives don't hesitate to criticize President Biden over everything but crickets every time the Republicans do something horrific to destroy our democracy. They post their own gotcha threads and deliberately leave out critical information but get mad when they think liberals are posting gotcha questions. Basically, their expectation is they can do whatever they want but they expect everyone else to play fair, play by the rules and be nice. The Republican playbook - it's OK if you're a Republican. All of it reminds me of the criticism that Democrats were not sympathetic enough to poor unvaccinated Republicans. After their selfish refusal to get vaccinated, careless disregard for everyone around them, Democrats are supposed to ignore that and treat them with kid gloves. Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, bragged about not wearing a mask, basically didn't care if anyone around her became infected with covid, we're all going to get it etc. In spite of all of that, the liberals are expected to be nice to her. And we're dehumanizing her if we say anything mean. That's my interpretation. But, I'm sure pixiechick will let you know why I'm wrong and why I'm a terrible person.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 19, 2022 5:04:01 GMT
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/february-18-2022?utm_source=urlHeather Cox Richardson There are four big stories today.
The first is that the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) has confirmed that it found classified documents among those its staff recovered from former president Donald Trump’s residence at Mar-a-Lago.
David S. Ferriero, Archivist of the United States, wrote in a letter to Representative Carolyn B. Maloney (D-NY), chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, that NARA is in the process of inventorying the 15 boxes of material Trump took out of the White House and that it has found “items marked as classified national security information within the boxes.” Because Trump removed classified information from its required security protection, NARA staff have alerted the Department of Justice to that national security breach.
There is more. Ferriero said that NARA has identified social media records that the Trump administration neglected to preserve. NARA “has also learned that some White House staff conducted official business using non-official messaging accounts that were not copied or forwarded into their official electronic messaging accounts,” as the law required. In addition, even after news reports of Trump tearing up records led NARA to remind the White House that records must be preserved, it nonetheless received records that were torn into pieces.
But her emails.
(Sorry. Willfully destroyed records make historians a bit salty.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 5:12:31 GMT
We scared them off by asking too many hard questions. Yeah, we "bully" them by making them substantiate their bs claims. The little darlings who like to call other "snowflakes".
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 19, 2022 7:10:56 GMT
I haven’t even opened the trucker thread. Is it a requirement that I read all 800 (or whatever) pages of that thread in order to see the answer to a question asked in this one? Where ARE all the peas who were so mad about the destruction of property at the George Floyd demonstrations? They're all probably still waiting for any of you to give a shit when the same damn thing was happening back in 2020 when riots broke out during protests that you agreed with. Burning buildings with people in them was dismissed back then and anyone that brought it up was demeaned and silenced. NOW you expect anyone to come and discuss this with you? Wow And btw OP, my answer to the question in the title of this thread is, they’re mostly gone. We scared them off by asking too many hard questions. No, the ACTUAL issue is that you don't accept opinions or even verifiable facts that go against the group think, so they damn near ALL gave up. And "you" do SO MANY things like bring the subject of the 2020 riots to a trucker thread in the form of a question and when people answer, you work in tag team style to smack down the answer with such things as 'don't talk about the 2020 riots on the trucker thread'. Yeah, we "bully" them by making them substantiate their bs claims. You bully them by never accepting ANY substantiated facts or opinions and shame them for trying to be involved in the discussion. You bully them by calling them names, dehumanize them in so many ways, and shame them for not going along with THE ONE ACCEPETED narrative of the moment.
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Post by pixiechick on Feb 19, 2022 7:15:10 GMT
I haven’t even opened the trucker thread. Is it a requirement that I read all 800 (or whatever) pages of that thread in order to see the answer to a question asked in this one? And btw OP, my answer to the question in the title of this thread is, they’re mostly gone. We scared them off by asking too many hard questions. I have no idea where on that thread her answer is, but my guess - after the question why is it OK for unvaccinated white truckers to cross the border but not migrants and refugees on the southern border? Or, why are the conservatives not losing their collective sh*T over that? Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, pixiechick defended her and accused everyone of dehumanizing poor cindosha. The answer was something along the lines of the liberals are mean, so the conservatives are not going to answer difficult questions. The conservatives don't hesitate to criticize President Biden over everything but crickets every time the Republicans do something horrific to destroy our democracy. They post their own gotcha threads and deliberately leave out critical information but get mad when they think liberals are posting gotcha questions. Basically, their expectation is they can do whatever they want but they expect everyone else to play fair, play by the rules and be nice. The Republican playbook - it's OK if you're a Republican. All of it reminds me of the criticism that Democrats were not sympathetic enough to poor unvaccinated Republicans. After their selfish refusal to get vaccinated, careless disregard for everyone around them, Democrats are supposed to ignore that and treat them with kid gloves. Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, bragged about not wearing a mask, basically didn't care if anyone around her became infected with covid, we're all going to get it etc. In spite of all of that, the liberals are expected to be nice to her. And we're dehumanizing her if we say anything mean. That's my interpretation. But, I'm sure pixiechick will let you know why I'm wrong and why I'm a terrible person. Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, pixiechick defended her Nope. Did no such thing. They post their own gotcha threads and deliberately leave out critical information Yet you do NOT hold the same standards for you and your buddies. Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, bragged about not wearing a mask, basically didn't care if anyone around her became infected with covid, we're all going to get it etc. In spite of all of that, the liberals are expected to be nice to her. And we're dehumanizing her if we say anything mean. The fact is, you were strutting your moral high ground with your condemnation of dehumanizing illegal immigrants as a group, all while you were dehumanizing specific people, personally. That's my interpretation. The reality of what was said vs. your twisted "interpretation"... Regardless of their legal status or actions, they deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. Referring to immigrants and migrants strictly by their legal status - that word alone - is not OK. The phrase "shipping them" like they're cargo is also unacceptable. The phrase "China virus" is also unacceptable. Regardless of differing opinion the people here on this board ALSO deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. But you have no problem calling them trolls and sealions and bullying them. All efforts to dehumanize someone simply because you don't agree with them, or like the facts they bring to the board. You are selective with your outrage and only selectively treating deserving people with the dignity and respect you demand from and for others.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 19, 2022 7:50:22 GMT
Where are the cries of "LOCK HIM UP!!" kwim!?!?!? Yep. I think I asked this last week...where are all of the "LOCK HER UP!!!" people now? They don't comment, so I take that to mean that they don't give a shit. Hypocrites. All of them. This same type of "gotcha" question was asked in the trucker protest thread. It was answered. And then the truth of the answer was dismissed and the people answering were demonized and bullied and the attempt was made to run someone off the board. THAT'S why no one will answer this very obvious question. They see how the actual answer will be received. Awww the widdle snowflake victims….poor babies. Typical republicans…blame anyone else.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 19, 2022 7:53:11 GMT
I haven’t even opened the trucker thread. Is it a requirement that I read all 800 (or whatever) pages of that thread in order to see the answer to a question asked in this one? And btw OP, my answer to the question in the title of this thread is, they’re mostly gone. We scared them off by asking too many hard questions. I have no idea where on that thread her answer is, but my guess - after the question why is it OK for unvaccinated white truckers to cross the border but not migrants and refugees on the southern border? Or, why are the conservatives not losing their collective sh*T over that? Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, pixiechick defended her and accused everyone of dehumanizing poor cindosha. The answer was something along the lines of the liberals are mean, so the conservatives are not going to answer difficult questions. The conservatives don't hesitate to criticize President Biden over everything but crickets every time the Republicans do something horrific to destroy our democracy. They post their own gotcha threads and deliberately leave out critical information but get mad when they think liberals are posting gotcha questions. Basically, their expectation is they can do whatever they want but they expect everyone else to play fair, play by the rules and be nice. The Republican playbook - it's OK if you're a Republican. All of it reminds me of the criticism that Democrats were not sympathetic enough to poor unvaccinated Republicans. After their selfish refusal to get vaccinated, careless disregard for everyone around them, Democrats are supposed to ignore that and treat them with kid gloves. Cindosha referred to migrants and refugees with racial slurs, bragged about not wearing a mask, basically didn't care if anyone around her became infected with covid, we're all going to get it etc. In spite of all of that, the liberals are expected to be nice to her. And we're dehumanizing her if we say anything mean. That's my interpretation. But, I'm sure pixiechick will let you know why I'm wrong and why I'm a terrible person. Pay pixiechik no attention. Pretty much everyone here has resigned themselves in knowing she’s just trolling for reaction and has ceased wanting or participating in honest conversation. You’re not wrong in your statement.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 19, 2022 7:54:33 GMT
I haven’t even opened the trucker thread. Is it a requirement that I read all 800 (or whatever) pages of that thread in order to see the answer to a question asked in this one? Where ARE all the peas who were so mad about the destruction of property at the George Floyd demonstrations? They're all probably still waiting for any of you to give a shit when the same damn thing was happening back in 2020 when riots broke out during protests that you agreed with. Burning buildings with people in them was dismissed back then and anyone that brought it up was demeaned and silenced. NOW you expect anyone to come and discuss this with you? Wow And btw OP, my answer to the question in the title of this thread is, they’re mostly gone. We scared them off by asking too many hard questions. No, the ACTUAL issue is that you don't accept opinions or even verifiable facts that go against the group think, so they damn near ALL gave up. And "you" do SO MANY things like bring the subject of the 2020 riots to a trucker thread in the form of a question and when people answer, you work in tag team style to smack down the answer with such things as 'don't talk about the 2020 riots on the trucker thread'. Yeah, we "bully" them by making them substantiate their bs claims. You bully them by never accepting ANY substantiated facts or opinions and shame them for trying to be involved in the discussion. You bully them by calling them names, dehumanize them in so many ways, and shame them for not going along with THE ONE ACCEPETED narrative of the moment. Such a gaslighting liar you are. The only echo chamber narrative is yours.
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