rodeomom
Pearl Clutcher
Refupee # 380 "I don't have to run fast, I just have to run faster than you."
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Post by rodeomom on Feb 27, 2022 21:47:05 GMT
 Plus the ones calling for a subboard for the political threads!  Remember on the old board when there was a separate board for politics during one election? Doesn’t really matter to me either way, but people have been complaining about political threads for years. Was it the 2004 election? I’m not sure. Yes I remember that. What happened was that any separate board died out. I like the political posts. I don't get how people think that their reason for using this board is more importin than mine. |
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mich5481
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Post by mich5481 on Feb 27, 2022 21:48:43 GMT
One remark I received was that no one would care if my family lived or died. (Ottowa truckers thread) That crossed a line for me. It was very hurtful . It was abuse. Remember there are real people in real life on the receiving end of such remarks. I'm so sorry that happened to you. That is unacceptable behavior. |
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Post by Laurie on Feb 27, 2022 21:56:55 GMT
One remark I received was that no one would care if my family lived or died. (Ottowa truckers thread) That crossed a line for me. It was very hurtful . It was abuse. Remember there are real people in real life on the receiving end of such remarks. I didn’t participate in that thread because I assumed it would be a shit show. I am sorry someone or some people said something hurtful to you like that. ((HUGS)) |
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 27, 2022 21:57:58 GMT
One remark I received was that no one would care if my family lived or died. (Ottowa truckers thread) Welcome to the family. Some of us have been getting comments like that here for well over 5 years now. In response, occasionally I've asked people who know me well IRL if I'm any of the horrible things I'm accused of here and to date, I've only been met with wide eyes and dropped jaws. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Feb 27, 2022 22:00:27 GMT
Who the hell would say that?
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Post by leftturnonly on Feb 27, 2022 22:06:06 GMT
Who the hell would say that?  |
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AmeliaBloomer
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Jun 26, 2014 5:01:45 GMT
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Feb 27, 2022 22:08:44 GMT
We’re letting a (yes, prolonged) dust up among a combo of personality types known for [pick one] stridency or schoolyard barbs or ironic knighting be held up as emblematic of wholesale forum nastiness. Is it emblematic of collective anxiety? Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on the day and the thread. Sometimes it’s just members being themselves. Crazy aunts (LOL), as mentioned upthread. I might usually avoid engaging with them here but I’ll make their posted soup recipe. I agree with all the suggestions to block or ignore or limit time or take a break-walk-siesta-drink-whatever. I’m personally posting in fewer political threads because of both my impatience with others’ styles and my own potential testiness. Maybe I’ll jump back in. Other times I’ve left for as long as a year. But that’s me. There’s no prescription; no forum restructuring. Y’all do you. Ebb and flow. [snip] Nothing in that thread was directed at me, but it did not belong there, and I refuse to wade through peas spewing crap on my innocent post. Take it elsewhere. I hope you stay. Your thread got weirdly hijacked from both “sides,” but I’m glad to read that you believe that nothing was directed at you. (There’s an unreliable narrator involved.) |
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Post by sabrinae on Feb 27, 2022 22:14:56 GMT
One remark I received was that no one would care if my family lived or died. (Ottowa truckers thread) That crossed a line for me. It was very hurtful . It was abuse. Remember there are real people in real life on the receiving end of such remarks. Could you please point out where it happened? I went and looked but I easily could have missed it. I’d like to know/see. It’s certainly inappropriate and hurtful and shouldn’t be said/typed. |
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 27, 2022 22:17:08 GMT
One remark I received was that no one would care if my family lived or died. (Ottowa truckers thread) That crossed a line for me. It was very hurtful . It was abuse. Remember there are real people in real life on the receiving end of such remarks. Could you please point out where it happened? I went and looked but I easily could have missed it. I’d like to know/see. It’s certainly inappropriate and hurtful and shouldn’t be said/typed. I just went back and looked as well and didn't see it either (even looking at all the blocked posts). |
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Post by christine58 on Feb 27, 2022 22:37:06 GMT
Could you please point out where it happened? I went and looked but I easily could have missed it. I’d like to know/see. It’s certainly inappropriate and hurtful and shouldn’t be said/typed. I just went back and looked as well and didn't see it either (even looking at all the blocked posts). Bet it was in a private message |
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Feb 27, 2022 22:39:12 GMT
Unfortunately all that does is further enrage them and invite even more posts & attacks on other peas. Easier to back away. YMMV though. It's really too bad. You know if some said something like that to me, it would totally cause me to pause and consider my words and the place they were coming from. I have hard days too. I could easily come here or anywhere else and take out my frustration on everyone. With that, I need to shut this thread out of my brain today. For the very first time in 6 years now I feel like there is a bit of mental space in my head just for me to fill that isn't full of anxiety, panic, and worry and I want to fill it positively. As busy said, the peas can be very, very awesome. I know when we are at our best,we are amazing. ❤️ I think it would depend on the person saying it and the way they said it. Some peas would say it with the utmost concern and others would wield it as a weapon. |
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Feb 27, 2022 22:48:00 GMT
One remark I received was that no one would care if my family lived or died. (Ottowa truckers thread) That crossed a line for me. It was very hurtful . It was abuse. Remember there are real people in real life on the receiving end of such remarks. That’s a really crappy thing to say to anyone. Sorry it happened to you. I’m trying to be a more tolerant person but nothing will get my back up like a comment like that. There’s no real value in that sort of remark other than a display of the commenter’s ugliness. |
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Post by elaine on Feb 27, 2022 23:05:20 GMT
The problem with that is that it is not uncommon for non political threads to turn political. Just look at the recent travel to Clearwater thread...who would have thought that would turn political? I like the politics label. Some days, I am in the mood to read and talk politics, but often, I just am not, so I can easily avoid the political threads. But that travel thread is not the first time started out one way and ended up turning political. So having a separate board wouldn't always work. yes, that is true, but if there were a way for people to click on posts and have them automatically deleted or something, that might be nice. i can't remember wheeree it was .. maybe on irc or a drawing game... if a certain number of people voted to block you, out you go. This the scariest thing that I’ve read suggested as something someone actually wants to apply to our board. I mean downright frightening in its level of opposition to everyone having a voice, even if that voice is unpopular. I don't like some posters, but I simply block them and don't read what they have to say. I wouldn't support banning them unless they started personally harrassing and doxing people. I would leave and never look back if what you are proposing was instituted here at NSBR. |
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 27, 2022 23:18:32 GMT
Reddit has karma - upvotes raise it, down voters lower it. I love Reddit, but it does lean left generally, so this ‘measure’ can be abused. Don’t you think most of the internet, in general, leans left? Mainly because the demographic is younger, and therefore more liberal? Yes, Twitter does too, IMO. Not so much Facebook anymore, and maybe that’s pretty telling too - younger people don’t tend to even create accounts on there anymore. |
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 27, 2022 23:21:25 GMT
One remark I received was that no one would care if my family lived or died. (Ottowa truckers thread) That crossed a line for me. It was very hurtful . It was abuse. Remember there are real people in real life on the receiving end of such remarks. Umm where was that said to you? |
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Post by cakediva on Feb 27, 2022 23:22:11 GMT
I would like to make a point about that thread that went bad. If you are a family that loves a member of the lgbtq+ community, knowing where there isn't acceptance of your loved one in a travel location is important to us. Also, some of us don't think who our loved ones are should be (is a?) political issue. Calling it that and dismissing it as a political issue in itself can be offensive. I'm hoping to say this in a non-threatening way because I really want people to understand. This is a huge deal for us and if I were posting like Kiki did, and for some reason didn't know that information about the location I was traveling to, I would have appreciated the posts that had pointed it out. I do see that some responses got nasty. Those aren't the responses I'm referring to. But here's the thing - I AM a family that has an LGBTQ+ member in it. My oldest DD. And we would go to Disney in a heartbeat - I don't care if it is in Florida. Disney is actually a very pro LGBTQ+ space, even if it is in a state that is introducing crappy laws. She didn't come on asking for places to go that were LGBTQ+ friendly, she specifically said a location due to a tournament they were participating in. Totally different question. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 23:23:11 GMT
This is the post. I have posted in it’s entirety because it is open to interpretation. Twice she made comments regarding nobody caring whether my family lives or dies, with added emphasis that our lives mean’t zero. She presented the comments as if they were not a reflection of her individual point of view but of unnamed others on the board contributing to that thread instead. I do not recall anybody else on that thread saying those things . Her condemnation of the comments was ironic because no one else had uttered them but her.        |
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Feb 27, 2022 23:30:33 GMT
@ktc You are way off base! sassyangel DID NOT tell you she didn’t care if your family lives or dies. The lack of reading comprehension going on today is mind boggling. |
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 27, 2022 23:32:20 GMT
One remark I received was that no one would care if my family lived or died. (Ottowa truckers thread) That crossed a line for me. It was very hurtful . It was abuse. Remember there are real people in real life on the receiving end of such remarks. Could you please point out where it happened? I went and looked but I easily could have missed it. I’d like to know/see. It’s certainly inappropriate and hurtful and shouldn’t be said/typed. I would really like to see this, too. I stopped posting on there after a while because it was so aggravating, but I can’t imagine something being said like that and no pea not remembering OR saying anything. |
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 27, 2022 23:33:56 GMT
This is the post. I have posted in it’s entirety because it is open to interpretation. Twice she made comments regarding nobody caring whether my family lives or dies, with added emphasis that our lives mean’t zero. She presented the comments as if they were not a reflection of her individual point of view but of unnamed others on the board contributing to that thread instead. I do not recall anybody else on that thread saying those things . Her condemnation of the comments was ironic because no one else had uttered them but her. Lordy moldy, holy hell, and good gravy Marie. In no way, size, shape or form did sassyangel say she did not care if your family lived or died. You are WAY off base here. |
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 27, 2022 23:34:49 GMT
This is the post. I have posted in it’s entirety because it is open to interpretation. Twice she made comments regarding nobody caring whether my family lives or dies, with added emphasis that our lives mean’t zero. She presented the comments as if they were not a reflection of her individual point of view but of unnamed others on the board contributing to that thread instead. I do not recall anybody else on that thread saying those things . Her condemnation of the comments was ironic because no one else had uttered them but her. I DID NOT say that at all. Your accusation is beyond offensive. |
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 27, 2022 23:37:07 GMT
@ktc You are way off base! sassyangel DID NOT tell you she didn’t care if your family lives or dies. The lack of reading comprehension going on today is mind boggling. Yeah, I was too busy trying to tone down my response and posted after you, but I cannot believe that is what she took from Sassy’s post. I even had my husband look with fresh eyes to make sure I wasn’t just being oblivious. He was shocked that was her take away too. I am so bothered by the fact that she is making an accusation that someone said they didn’t care if her family lived or died. That is a big accusation to be making, and it is 100% false. |
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Feb 27, 2022 23:38:59 GMT
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Post by peasapie on Feb 27, 2022 23:40:06 GMT
I would like to make a point about that thread that went bad. If you are a family that loves a member of the lgbtq+ community, knowing where there isn't acceptance of your loved one in a travel location is important to us. Also, some of us don't think who our loved ones are should be (is a?) political issue. Calling it that and dismissing it as a political issue in itself can be offensive. I'm hoping to say this in a non-threatening way because I really want people to understand. This is a huge deal for us and if I were posting like Kiki did, and for some reason didn't know that information about the location I was traveling to, I would have appreciated the posts that had pointed it out. I do see that some responses got nasty. Those aren't the responses I'm referring to. But here's the thing - I AM a family that has an LGBTQ+ member in it. My oldest DD. And we would go to Disney in a heartbeat - I don't care if it is in Florida. Disney is actually a very pro LGBTQ+ space, even if it is in a state that is introducing crappy laws. She didn't come on asking for places to go that were LGBTQ+ friendly, she specifically said a location due to a tournament they were participating in. Totally different question. I agree with you on this. We all have issues that are personal to us, but it doesn't give us the right to derail a thread to question someone's choice based on our issue, and that's what happened. |
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Feb 27, 2022 23:40:31 GMT
This is the post. I have posted in it’s entirety because it is open to interpretation. Twice she made comments regarding nobody caring whether my family lives or dies, with added emphasis that our lives mean’t zero. She presented the comments as if they were not a reflection of her individual point of view but of unnamed others on the board contributing to that thread instead. I do not recall anybody else on that thread saying those things . Her condemnation of the comments was ironic because no one else had uttered them but her. Lordy moldy, holy hell, and good gravy Marie. In no way, size, shape or form did sassyangel say she did not care if your family lived or died. You are WAY off base here. If anyone thought I even remotely meant that, they would’ve (rightfully so) jumped all over me. There are a few people here I don’t like, and I wouldn’t even say that about them. 🥴😧 |
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Post by christine58 on Feb 27, 2022 23:43:33 GMT
@ktc. You are so off base. Re-read it.
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Post by busy on Feb 27, 2022 23:43:38 GMT
This is the post. I have posted in it’s entirety because it is open to interpretation. Twice she made comments regarding nobody caring whether my family lives or dies, with added emphasis that our lives mean’t zero. She presented the comments as if they were not a reflection of her individual point of view but of unnamed others on the board contributing to that thread instead. I do not recall anybody else on that thread saying those things . I say this as gently as I can, but I think you may be misinterpreting those comments. I read them as her extrapolating how the actions of those who refuse to be vaccinated can affect your family and others like you. That they seem to prioritize their “freedom” above the health and even lives of others. I don’t think she was referring to anything anyone on the board had said, but more generally about anti-vaxers. Along the lines of what teh Texas lieutenant governor said about senior citizens being willing to sacrifice their lives to Covid so everyone else could get back to work and school. |
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Post by cindyupnorth on Feb 27, 2022 23:43:43 GMT
Lordy moldy, holy hell, and good gravy Marie. In no way, size, shape or form did sassyangel say she did not care if your family lived or died. You are WAY off base here. and I'll add a holy hell???!! blink blink....whaaaaaat? I see nothing to support your claim |
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pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Feb 27, 2022 23:47:03 GMT
See the peas can agree on some things 😂🤣😂
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 27, 2022 23:47:27 GMT
This is going to be a pile on and I don't want to pile on, but cannot not say something. @ktc - that was not at all what she meant! She wasn't even talking about people on the board. She was commenting on the public at large that are against mandates and vaccines are not doing their part to protect the vulnerable. I hope you can step back and reread and realize that she was trying to get you to realize that those people do not care about your family and I'm sorry that you read it as an attack on them as I think sometimes we see red when we think people are attacking our vulnerable family members.
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