artbabe
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Post by artbabe on Mar 28, 2022 14:20:42 GMT
In my thread about scrapbook manufacturers listening to consumers it was brought up that our message board is not representative of the scrapbook hobby as a whole.
What makes us different? Do you think our collective style is different? What products we buy? How we use products?
I have my own theory on this but I'm wondering what other people think.
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Post by kmage on Mar 28, 2022 14:44:19 GMT
In my thread about scrapbook manufacturers listening to consumers it was brought up that our message board is not representative of the scrapbook hobby as a whole. What makes us different? Do you think our collective style is different? What products we buy? How we use products? I have my own theory on this but I'm wondering what other people think. Just adding my own .02 and experience... I am on this board, I come here most days to see what's new, check in, see what others are doing. I purposely looked for a community like this, because although I love my friends, what they saw in scrapbooking wasn't really enough for me. I like to look at upcoming releases, see what different designers are doing, and consume content meant for paper crafters/paper artisans. I LOVE talking about all this too. I like to learn about graphic design and take that into my scrapbooking, color theory, etc... Debating the merits of adhesive, trends, projections, manufacturers, ect is fun for me. I like to change it up with different formats (like Citrus Twist albums) My other friends (literally two other people that I know IRL that papercraft) that I scrapbook with could care less about manufactures or design. They want to get albums done for their kids' graduations or complete the Christmas book, which is 100% totally fine. But they always joke that I am "more into it" than they are. ETA: Most people seem to want a slice of scrapbooking/paper crafting. I want the WHOLE PIE!
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Post by cannmom on Mar 28, 2022 14:46:07 GMT
I think 2 peas scrappers know more about the latest products. I think they are also more likely to watch YouTube videos about scrapping and follow scrapbooking on social media. They probably do more untraditional scrapping (traveler’s notebooks etc..) than traditional 12x12 pages.
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Post by Night Owl on Mar 28, 2022 14:49:38 GMT
Most of us have been scrapbooking awhile so we already have the basic supplies and know our style. So we tend to be more selective about what we buy.
We usually know the trends and we are mainly intermediate scrapbookers and not beginners.
Also I like to think that we are smart enough to see through some of the opportunists in the scrapbooking world.
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Ryann
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Post by Ryann on Mar 28, 2022 14:53:43 GMT
The things that come to mind, generally speaking:
We don’t shop exclusively at big box stores, conventions, MLM or bargain outlets.
We know the names of the different designers/manufacturers. We can often identify a design without seeing a branding strip. Even if you don’t know if a paper is specifically Echo Park vs. Photoplay, you would know it’s definitely not Doodlebug or Bo Bunny because you’re familiar enough with the manufacturer’s overall design aesthetics.
We consume or participate in paper crafting social media - starting with blogs and continuing on with FB, IG, YT, etc.
In reviewing my responses above, it’s clear to me it comes from a place of privilege on some level. In general, scrapbooking is not a cheap hobby. It requires space, money and time. Yes, there are people that can scrapbook on their lap with a pack of construction paper, scissors and a glue stick but that’s not the typical scrapbooking experience.
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Post by breetheflea on Mar 28, 2022 15:02:42 GMT
I usually know what the newest Echo Park paper will be at Craft Warehouse (local craft chain) before I go in there, because I saw it on ACOT pre-order months before it was actually for sale...
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Post by kmage on Mar 28, 2022 15:06:07 GMT
In reviewing my responses above, it’s clear to me it comes from a place of privilege on some level. In general, scrapbooking is not a cheap hobby. It requires space, money and time. Yes, there are people that can scrapbook on their lap with a pack of construction paper, scissors and a glue stick but that’s not the typical scrapbooking experience. After reading this, and then reading again what I wrote, I thought, "Oh sh*t...I am an elitist, papercrafting snob!" But in the best possible way...and that is it, in a nutshell. What is the difference between someone like me that likes Star Wars, and has watched all the movies plus the Disney spin offs, and someone who goes to the conventions, knows the names of the lesser known actors, knows the lore, the history...can rattle off trivia, etc? They consume higher level content at a higher level-allow more real estate and processing in their brains for it.
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Post by infochick on Mar 28, 2022 15:14:17 GMT
I definitely think 2Peas scrappers are more "into it" and I agree with the comments above. Generally we're more aware of trends and lines coming out, the designers we like and what we don't. I think we also represent the more particular or sophisticated customer base. This is a very interesting thread and I'm really enjoying everyone's comments.
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Post by Linda on Mar 28, 2022 16:02:04 GMT
I think there's a bit of a difference between a scrapbooker and someone who scraps - a scrapbooker has identified themselves with the hobby and seeks out others (online or inperson) to share that hobby with - they seek out new ideas (sketches, techniques), they develop preferences (this style/manufacturer vs another), they enjoy the conversation, the organising, the buying as part of the hobby, and yes they tend to have more disposable income than many. I think people who just scrap are more focused on memory keeping and less on art/design and tend to use multiple photos and less product. They also tend to be scrapping children, holidays, and/or travel rather than everyday or moments or themselves - a baby book, a school years book, a birth to 18 book, a trip book....
I think I tend to straddle the line despite having scrapped for 20 years and being on message boards about as long. I don't see myself as creative or artistic and I haven't gotten into many of the spin-offs like mixed media, TNs, etc....I also primarily shop at big box stores - HL, M, J, and TM - mostly because my budget doesn't allow much online purchasing...
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Post by marg on Mar 28, 2022 16:30:30 GMT
I am more obsessed with the hobby than the majority of people, I think, and maybe people on here are as well? I paper craft every day, I read online about it every day, I mainly follow paper crafting stuff on social media, I ask for it for birthday and Christmas presents, etc. It takes up a large part of my time if I add it all up.
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MDscrapaholic
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Mar 28, 2022 16:54:39 GMT
I think we enjoy the process of documenting our memories more than those who just want to get the photos in an album. We are certainly willing to try new ideas and get excited when we find something new. And we love to share our love of this hobby. 💕
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Post by mrsshampoo on Mar 28, 2022 17:00:06 GMT
I think the majority of the peas have more perspective into the hobby and the different brands. A lot of the peas aren’t married to one brand, and use whatever brands fit their need and project. And therefore, with the experience of multiple brands/companies, the peas have a better grasp on what works and what doesn’t work in the scrapbooking industry and what works and doesn’t work for them, personally. I’d imagine if I was a Stampin Up Rep and only used their products, I wouldn’t know or care to know what else was out there, so my perspective on the industry would be different.
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Post by 950nancy on Mar 28, 2022 18:54:52 GMT
I think we like to see each others' pages and learn from them and want to grow the craft. Some people grow in little bits and others in leaps and bounds. I can appreciate everyone's style and am not stuck in there is only one right way to do it. For me, I hate it when someone criticizes the busy pages where you can't "see" the photo. Love the creativity. On the other hand, I also completely appreciate the person who scraps and journals more simply because that is what they love or how they want to do it. I think we run the gamut in styles and the people who are more vocal about what they want just want something that is different from the last 20 years to try.
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Post by hmp on Mar 28, 2022 20:34:47 GMT
I have always been impressed by the Peas willingness to learn more about scrapbooking. Many Peas invest their time in educating themselves, taking classes, watching you tube videos, trying new techniques and sharing their experiences. You can ask a question here and you will get multiple sources and ideas in the answers. There seems to be a sincere dedication, love & Joy in the craft. There’s lots of encouragement & a willingness to share. Peas aren’t afraid to try new things. Many also aren’t afraid to admit their mistakes or failures or dislikes. There is an acceptance that we all have different tastes, styles, and budgets and those can also be celebrated. But mostly I’ve been impressed at how consistently the Peas continue to learn & share over the years.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 28, 2022 20:58:49 GMT
i think the peas are far more than just basic level scrappers.
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 28, 2022 22:41:45 GMT
We are a truly varied bunch. Newbies are welcome, but many of us have been scrapping longer than most. We aren’t content to stick with just one company, and we tend to like to learn and try new things. Some us us love the technology possibilities, while others are more into the artsy aspect.
We’re a bit like a very large family, including the occasional squabbles, but we also tend to help each other out.
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Post by manomo on Mar 29, 2022 0:50:02 GMT
In my thoughts, there's a difference between the art of scrapbooking and the craft of scrapbooking. On the art side, you take the opportunity to learn about color, techniques, materials, etc. You find out what makes a layout pleasing to the eye and you experiment with what you learn.
There's nothing wrong with either way of doing this hobby and with both ways you end up with a way to preserve memories.
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Post by refugeepea on Mar 29, 2022 0:52:25 GMT
I think I fall into the category of basic scrapper, who just happens to have a lot more supplies than your average basic scrapper.
I guess knowing manufacturers makes me different. I honestly don't put a lot of thought into my pages. I suck at mixed media, I'm not creative. I just like searching my supplies, cutting and pasting.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Mar 29, 2022 1:39:55 GMT
I think it's because we share information on a regular basis here on this message board, about scrapbooking, techniques, products, tutorials, etc... so we as a collective whole are more "in the know" and aware of what's out there in regards to scrapbooking. New and coming soon products are linked here on a regular basis.
We as a collective whole, are not stuck in one box or one style or type of scrapbooking. We each have our own scrapbook style, but we know about the other styles as well because we read it on here. Some scrapbookers only know what is in their "box", and have no idea that there is a whole scrapbooking world out there. I think many multi-level marketing type scrapbooking (like creative memories) only learn what the consultant teaches or shows them and they use only the product that is sold by that particular company.
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Post by Loydene on Mar 29, 2022 1:58:35 GMT
I don't think there is a collective "style" -- but a greater body of knowledge and experience. I don't think anyone at Two Peas is looking "for spaghetti paper" -- I think we are looking for a broader useful range of products. I also think that WE are sick to death pink paper!
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Post by scrappyrabbit on Mar 29, 2022 2:09:10 GMT
I honestly think of myself as more of a basic scrapper. I watch youtube videos and think my pages never turn out like that. I bargain shop online and in big box stores (Michaels, Joanns, HL and TM). Unfortunately, I am not willing to spend the money or physical space on more supplies (mixed media and fancy tools etc) at this stage of my life. I started scrapping basic things - a vacation, my wedding and wedding planning, etc. Truly the pandemic is what allowed me the time to dedicate to scrapping, and I became more addicted to it as time went on. I enjoy message boards so I found 2peas and decided to stay for a while
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Post by myboysnme on Mar 29, 2022 21:54:49 GMT
Haven't read other responses yet but as one who said we are not the customer manufacturers are aiming for, I believe at this point the mere fact we are on an SBR board makes us different. Most people who are still scrapping that I know are not on this board or any other scrap board, if there are others. If anything they are on facebook destash pages. There is also a group of former scrappers who are card makers now. At crops and retreats I go to there are always card makers who no longer scrapbook.
Scrappers today follow tutorials on You tube and have their favorites, many of whom, like Megan Jacks, are Creative Memories folks. Creative Memories folks I know still seem to use those products exclusively. Other similar companies like Close to my Heart also have their following.
There are no scrapbook stores in many places so customers who would buy have nowhere to buy except online. I know quite a few scrappers who still do not do online shopping, have no idea what sites to buy from, and like having a consultant do every thing for them.
We are a small demographic here who still avidly scrapbook. We love our hobby and enjoy adding to it. Many scrappers I know have stopped buying all together. Like a quilter with a room full of fabrics or a knitter with 100s of skeins of yarn. There comes a time when many people stop buying. For the most part we will still buy but not in large quantities.
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Post by PaperAngel on Mar 30, 2022 4:14:51 GMT
IMHO we are unique due to membership in this online community that connects scrappers from all over the world.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 30, 2022 17:18:51 GMT
As others have mentioned, what sets us apart is the variety of people in here: geographically, culturally, artistically/creatively, format-wise, age-wise. Whereas many other online crafty spaces have people connecting over a particular aspect such as a particular designer's products (which in turn influences the format and the aesthetic) or a subcategory (only Project Life or only digital/hybrid projects for ex.). This place houses anyone and everyone who wishes to join. It makes for a very interesting and eye-opening experience. And of course, our tendency to discuss and question decisions made in the industry even if the working theories or conclusions aren't pretty. 2PR is quite the exception in an otherwise "fall in line" landscape. Nobody here is policed on the kind of products they use, their preferences, their evolution, etc. I love it.
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Post by Mel on Mar 31, 2022 14:45:22 GMT
I like it here because no matter the question SOMEone will have an answer/opinion/experience. It's nice to be able to chat with people who are more knowledgeable of the industry and not just trying to sell something.
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Post by kitbop on Mar 31, 2022 15:59:39 GMT
Just going to echo everyone else: we are the upper tier of the hobby. We are more dedicated, we get more joy out of our craft, we are open to learning more, we are keen to discuss nuances that would bore others to death It doesn't matter how long you've been in the hobby - it's a question of whether you are "all in" or not! Regarding the switch of scrapbookers to cardmaking: I think this demonstrates our immersion and joy in our hobby, that even if the memory keeping aspect decreases we still want to play with our glorious supplies! The same with scrapbookers who have changed to planners, art journals, travelers notebooks etc. You can get great inspiration for scrapbooking from a card, and vice versa! Colours, products, design choices... it's all graphic design, right?
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Post by angel97701 on Mar 31, 2022 21:58:18 GMT
I too will agree with all that is said above. How are we different? We enjoy our hobby at the highest level, not just dabblers . . . most of us have a stash to prove it, and wouldn't have to buy another single sheet of paper or embellishment to scrap another 10+ years! We are more selective about our purchases, but still on occasion have FOMO. Some have done semi-professional gigs in the scrapping paper craft world.
We share ideas, crop together online or keep up with the chat groups on crop weekends. We are not married to one way of scrapping or card making. We learn and encourage everyone as paper crafters on this side of the board.
On the NSBR side there is a huge wealth of knowledge, and experiences are shared. Some pearefugees stay more on one side than the other, as many NSBR posters don't seem to be as active on the Scrapping side.
This community replaces the days of old, times when some of us had LSS, local crops, retreats, or active conventions when the industry was younger. We have a gallery where we can share our art, if we wish.
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