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Post by kmage on Apr 3, 2022 13:34:08 GMT
Update: As I do not appreciate being stalked online by companies I order from, I have declined any compensation and have notified the company that I will no longer be a customer. I am sick and tired of companies trolling this board; it is totally inappropriate when they have customer IRL names, addresses and other information for them to be actively looking for customers, connecting the user name on two peas with their customer and addressing issues publicly-when their company name was never even mentioned.
I placed a large order, which included pre order items. Just got a shipping notice and while my pre order items have shipped, some of my other items have been cancelled due to being "out of stock." Has anyone else had this happen? If I had known it might happen, I would have placed the orders separately or tried to buy them elsewhere. Now those items I really wanted are also sold out everywhere.
There was nothing indicating that if I placed a pre order with items that were currently in stock they would continue to sell the items I had reserved and I risked not getting my in stock items.
I had already paid and everything, and only got the notice with the shipping notice, stating, "Some of the items you ordered are no longer in stock. You have been refunded." So for months I have been thinking I am getting these items, no reason to think I am not, but now-nope.
Just bummed.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Apr 3, 2022 13:53:06 GMT
I would definitely complain to the online store.
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Post by cannmom on Apr 3, 2022 14:04:17 GMT
That’s annoying. I love my not-so-local store( it’s 5 hours away, in another state.) . The owner is awesome and has great customer service. I just placed an order and she was out of 1 thing , but emailed to let me know she was getting it back in stock in about a week and asked if I wanted to wait. She pulls things as soon as you order so she doesn’t sell it to anyone else.
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artbabe
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Post by artbabe on Apr 3, 2022 14:56:37 GMT
I never preorder for that reason. I don't like waiting for stuff- I need immediate gratification and I get worried that other stuff will sell out. I hate going to my cart and finding something I wanted is now gone. So I just check scrapbook store sites often so I can get stuff as soon as it goes on sale.
What did you want? Maybe the peas can find it at a different place. We are good at hunting things down.
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Post by riversong1963 on Apr 3, 2022 15:09:01 GMT
If you already paid for the items, they should have been reserved for you. They already had your money, so I don't understand why they sold the items twice and then refunded your money. That's not a good way to do business. I would definitely let customer service know that you're not happy, and I probably wouldn't pre-order anything from them again. (I don't pre-order anyway.)
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Post by grammadee on Apr 3, 2022 15:19:47 GMT
If you already paid for the items, they should have been reserved for you. They already had your money, That's maddening! Did they say which items are out of stock? The items that were in stock at the time of your order should have been put aside for you once they received your order. Then when the pre order comes in they should all be packaged together and sent out. Those items set aside should have come off their electronic inventory and the physical items needed to be removed from their shelves. This requires a diligent staff and a fool proof system at their end. Some companies actually announce that they won't combine pre orders with regular ones, I think for this reason.
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Ryann
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Post by Ryann on Apr 3, 2022 15:26:48 GMT
Anything we can try to help you find kmage ?
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caangel
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Post by caangel on Apr 3, 2022 16:33:33 GMT
Doesn't help now but check out Scrapbook Generation's Bank It program. They will hold your purchases until you reach the free shipping limit if you ask. Or if you change your mind you can let them know and they will charge you shipping and send it out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2022 16:37:00 GMT
I always place as many y orders as needed to keep pre orders together and current in stock items together.
I have had items go OOS when waiting for pre oder once so that is why I do it the way I do.
Plus two sites I order from suggest separating orders for that reason.
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kitbop
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Post by kitbop on Apr 3, 2022 16:46:22 GMT
I'm totally with you on this: if you bought the items in January, they PUT THEM ASIDE for you until they ship. The store owes you something for this.
One order I made at sb.com was missing an OSS item without informing me before shipping it. I complained - with the cost of shipping, I work my orders specifically to get the most bang for my buck. They refunded my shipping and sent me a coupon code. I did explain to them that if an item is OOS (it was an order of only 3 items...so it made a huge difference) they should contact the buyer and ensure they want to proceed, or ask if there is anything they want to purchase instead. Not sure if they've changed how they work it, but their customer service was very responsive to me.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Apr 3, 2022 16:57:17 GMT
I've had that happen to me and I have only done one preorder since that happened a few years ago and I kept the preorder separate from my other order. Once bitten, twice shy I guess.
But, since you PAID for the items they definitely should have boxed them up until your preorders arrived. Like others have said, definitely send them an email and complain.
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msliz
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Post by msliz on Apr 3, 2022 17:22:54 GMT
That happened to me once. I ordered from a store on the recommendation of a fellow Pea. It turned out their inventory system was a mess, and almost all the clearance items (the reason I placed the order in the first place) were no longer available. They refunded my order for those items, but instead of contacting me and giving me the option to cancel the rest of my order, they just filled the half of it and charged me the full shipping. They sent all the newer items I used to pad my order that I could have purchased for less elsewhere. I was PO'd. I called to complain, and they refunded part of my shipping and offered me a discount toward future purchases, but I won't be shopping there again. I'm hesitant to say the name here since they made an effort to correct things, but I will mention they were in your geographic area.
(I'll Peamail you the name of the store.)
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Post by katieanna on Apr 3, 2022 17:43:21 GMT
You ordered " months ago" and now it's not in stock? Yes, I would definitely call them and complain. That's not right; I'd be upset, too, especially over items I was looking forward to receiving. ETA, After re-reading, I'm surprised that they didn't send you the items that were already in stock. I don't usually pre-order so maybe there's a different policy. If so, then the customer should be informed so you can place 2 orders or purchase the in-stock items elsewhere.
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Post by kmage on Apr 3, 2022 18:54:59 GMT
katieanna, kitbop , Ryann , grammadee the items were Cocoa Vanilla Legendary. The cardstock stickers, some papers, etc. They were all in stock at the time of my order, which was January 25th. I'd rather not say which store, as I have emailed and I will see if they are willing to do anything to make it right. But I won't order again from them, and I won't ever order a pre order from anyone with items that are in stock. I was trying to make the shipping be worth it and these are items I really wanted, artbabe , I agree, I think I am going with instant gratification from now on, lol!!
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Ryann
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Post by Ryann on Apr 3, 2022 19:43:36 GMT
@katianna, kitbop , Ryann , grammadee the items were Cocoa Vanilla Legendary. The cardstock stickers, some papers, etc. They were all in stock at the time of my order, which was January 25th. I'd rather not say which store, as I have emailed and I will see if they are willing to do anything to make it right. But I won't order again from them, and I won't ever order a pre order from anyone with items that are in stock. I was trying to make the shipping be worth it and these are items I really wanted, artbabe , I agree, I think I am going with instant gratification from now on, lol!! kmage Some items from Piece Craft Love - use " Tamarasentme10 " for 10% off your order - piececraftlove.com/search?type=product&q=cocoa+vanilla+legendaryI couldn't find any paper.
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Post by joblackford on Apr 3, 2022 20:00:14 GMT
ugh! that's not cool. Not if they charged you for the items when you placed the order. I hope you get a satisfactory resolution but that's the kind of thing we shoppers don't easily forget or forgive. I hope you can find the supplies you thought you were getting elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2022 22:10:14 GMT
I'm sorry. That is the worst! And shame on them for not holding the items you ordered aside for you. That's just plain incompetence. One time I placed an order and they shipped it and sent me an email, sorry xyz is oos. Here's your $ back. But I only ordered two things and swallowed the high shipping. Instead they didn't give me a choice to add something else and they didn't decrease my shipping. I've only given them my business once since then and even then I had to hold my nose. I just don't like that kind of business etiquette.
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Post by Night Owl on Apr 3, 2022 23:09:49 GMT
That sounds like the old Two Peas store.
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Elsabelle
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Post by Elsabelle on Apr 3, 2022 23:38:57 GMT
I'm sorry that happened to you, kmage. I'd be frustrated, too. I've ordered preorder items and in stock items together and never considered that the in stock items wouldn't be set aside for me. I understand your choice to not mention the store but if you change your mind please let us know. I'd like to know which store has a policy like that. It could save us a lot of frustration.
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Post by mamagidget on Apr 4, 2022 4:03:16 GMT
Oh no, how disappointing-I'm sorry that happened to you.
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Matt at ACOT
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Post by Matt at ACOT on Apr 4, 2022 4:50:14 GMT
Hi kmage (and everyone) - I saw your email in our inbox so unfortunately it looks like this was from us. So sorry for the trouble. It's late here so I'll send over a reply in the morning and see if we can work something out. Cocoa Vanilla looks to be sold out of the Legendary Accessory Stickers we shorted you but I'm checking with them to see if they have any extras laying around as we have an order from them scheduled to ship any day now. We of course reserve items for you in our system as soon as the order is placed and don't allow them to be sold to anyone else. In some rare cases an inventory counting error creates a situation where we don't have a product on the shelf that we thought we did and we end up having to refund for it. It could have been a miscount at any point in the process (from the manufacturer or from us when we received it), maybe something stuck together and we accidentally shipped two to a different customer, maybe one was damaged and inventory didn't get updated, etc. For what it's worth, this is the thing that I like least about taking pre-orders and I'm always trying to think of ways we can avoid this happening. We recently updated our inventory algorithm to count new and popular items more frequently and I'm going to take another look at that this week. Someone mentioned physically pulling items off the shelf, but with the number of pre-orders we have at any time, that just isn't feasible unfortunately. At any rate, if you order something that we have in stock then you should get it regardless of when your order ships and I'm sorry we couldn't do that for you this time.
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Post by honeypea on Apr 4, 2022 20:17:59 GMT
Hi kmage (and everyone) - I saw your email in our inbox so unfortunately it looks like this was from us. So sorry for the trouble. It's late here so I'll send over a reply in the morning and see if we can work something out. Cocoa Vanilla looks to be sold out of the Legendary Accessory Stickers we shorted you but I'm checking with them to see if they have any extras laying around as we have an order from them scheduled to ship any day now. We of course reserve items for you in our system as soon as the order is placed and don't allow them to be sold to anyone else. In some rare cases an inventory counting error creates a situation where we don't have a product on the shelf that we thought we did and we end up having to refund for it. It could have been a miscount at any point in the process (from the manufacturer or from us when we received it), maybe something stuck together and we accidentally shipped two to a different customer, maybe one was damaged and inventory didn't get updated, etc. For what it's worth, this is the thing that I like least about taking pre-orders and I'm always trying to think of ways we can avoid this happening. We recently updated our inventory algorithm to count new and popular items more frequently and I'm going to take another look at that this week. Someone mentioned physically pulling items off the shelf, but with the number of pre-orders we have at any time, that just isn't feasible unfortunately. At any rate, if you order something that we have in stock then you should get it regardless of when your order ships and I'm sorry we couldn't do that for you this time. Yikes. If you saw her customer message to you in your email, you should be replying TO HER EMAIL and not in this public message board. 😳 Good grief!
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Post by Loydene on Apr 4, 2022 20:39:43 GMT
Update: As I do not appreciate being stalked online by companies I order from, I have declined any compensation and have notified the company that I will no longer be a customer. I am sick and tired of companies trolling this board; it is totally inappropriate when they have customer IRL names, addresses and other information for them to be actively looking for customers, connecting the user name on two peas with their customer and addressing issues publicly-when their company name was never even mentioned. I hear you and respect your position -- but, we can't have it both ways. Often we (collectively) wonder why "they" don't listen to us in regard to design matters -- less pink, fewer critters, more like Basic Grey, why can't we get foldable, etc.. I've always rather expected companies to use 2Ps like a free "focus group" -- there really aren't very many other places to get the range of views and expertise that can be found here. So ... maybe they are. And - frankly - I think most everyone rather knew you were talking about ACOT. I certainly did!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 20:40:57 GMT
I guess I am the lone dissenter here. Matt has been on here for a while and always answers questions. I see nothing wrong with a company stating how their business works and think its great that ACOT has a resource available here on 2peas. I have been helped by Matt several times and been contacted off hours with an issue. I think its nice. He isn't stalking anyone LOL
I have had pre order items go out of stock on me as well. Sometimes there are glitches. Not a hill I would get all upset on, but that is just me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 20:43:24 GMT
And with shipping issues and international port issues, while a company may tell a store you are getting xyz, that may not happen thanks to Covid. So these issues are still popping up. Yeah it stinks to not get product you paid for, but you were reimbursed and not charged for non product. It happens a lot. It happens sometimes when I pay for items are Target or Best Buy, or Albertsons or JC Penny. Not all store systems are updated and there can be issues with their store systems.
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Post by papersilly on Apr 4, 2022 21:05:23 GMT
I placed a large order, which included pre order items. Just got a shipping notice and while my pre order items have shipped, some of my other items have been cancelled due to being "out of stock." Has anyone else had this happen? If I had known it might happen, I would have placed the orders separately or tried to buy them elsewhere. Now those items I really wanted are also sold out everywhere. this happened to me when i ordered from an SB store in Ohio. i only ordered from them because they (supposedly) had an item i was looking for. i ordered all the ones they said they had in stock and bought more items so i could get free shipping. when i placed my order, i specifically added a note to notify me BEFORE shipping if any items were out of stock. no one ever notified me and when i got my order, the items i wanted most were not there. i called the store and some lady said "oh yeah, the items were out of stock". like you, i would never have placed my order if i had known they were out of stock of what i really wanted. AND they still charged me for it and i had to request a refund. needless to say i'm never buying from there again.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Apr 4, 2022 21:14:07 GMT
I guess I am the lone dissenter here. Matt has been on here for a while and always answers questions. I see nothing wrong with a company stating how their business works and think its great that ACOT has a resource available here on 2peas. I have been helped by Matt several times and been contacted off hours with an issue. I think its nice. He isn't stalking anyone LOL I have had pre order items go out of stock on me as well. Sometimes there are glitches. Not a hill I would get all upset on, but that is just me. I agree with this. ACOT has excellent customer service. Matt did not disclose any of your personal information in his reply to you. You put your complaint out there on this message board. Matt addressed you (and us all) via your user name, to explain the how and whys of when an issue accidently happens. In his post he specifically said they received your complaint/inquiry and he would contact you via his companies website to help resolve this and to try to make it right. This is not the first time you've called all a company in regards to a problem with your order. The previous time, the company in question did put your personal information out there, by addressing by your given name instead of your user name.....and you were completely justified in regards to being upset and angry. In this current situation, I think you are wrong. Mistakes happen. In every part of life, personally and in business mistakes happen. Life isn't perfect. People are not perfect. Businesses are not perfect. Matt and ACOT did NOT stalk you on here, he simply used his common sense and realized his company was the guilty party. You and the rest of us were given an "in general" reply here as to how mistakes like this happen, then you were contacted privately to help resolve your issue and to make it right. I personally, think Matt and ACOT handled this very professionally. I am a customer of ACOT and will absolutely be shopping will them in the future. Kudos to Matt and ACOT for his/their professionalism and attempting to make this right.
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Post by honeypea on Apr 4, 2022 21:27:08 GMT
I reckon if Matt placed an order at Fruit of the Loom and then experienced issues with his order and reached out through FotL customer service via email, he’d not appreciate if Fruit of the Loom then blasted the details of his order on Twitter.
Had a pea put her complaint on this board and done an @ tag to Matt drawing attention to the problem via the board, then a reply on the board would make sense.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Apr 4, 2022 21:51:07 GMT
I reckon if Matt placed an order at Fruit of the Loom and then experienced issues with his order and reached out through FotL customer service via email, he’d not appreciate if Fruit of the Loom then blasted the details of his order on Twitter. Had a pea put her complaint on this board and done an @ tag to Matt drawing attention to the problem via the board, then a reply on the board would make sense. There were no "details blasted". No given name, no address, no email, no phone number, no invoice of exactly what was ordered, no details of what was offered to make it right or for future compensation. The only "details given" were an in general explanation of how and why mistakes sometimes happen. If something is posted on a public venue.....acting on behalf of ones company or place of employment (especially when doing so in a very professional manner), to let the original poster know that your company will be in touch privately in regards to their issue or situation, should be commended...I would consider that excellent customer service. Happens all the time, in various companies reviews on their website or on social platforms.....someone posts a negative review or comments and a company representative replies with a comment of "please contact out customer service, so we can help you resolve your issue (no personal details given)". That's is what good customer service is all about.
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kitbop
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Post by kitbop on Apr 4, 2022 22:12:25 GMT
You put your complaint out there on this message board. No she didn't, she vented; she stated "just bummed", and looked for support and experiences in this circumstance. She specifically REFUSED to name the company. reckon if Matt placed an order at Fruit of the Loom and then experienced issues with his order and reached out through FotL customer service via email, he’d not appreciate if Fruit of the Loom then blasted the details of his order on Twitter. I agree, her post and refusal to name the store clearly speaks of her desire to be private with it... ACOT should NOT have made the resolution process and apology PUBLIC, that is shaming our poor pea, this EMBARRASSED our pea. Matt should have kept this private, in e-mails, or even asking her PERMISSION to speak on the thread. Now I will think twice before opening my mouth around here.
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