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Post by Merge on Apr 14, 2022 22:33:11 GMT
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news-leader.com/amp/7264924001She used a TpT worksheet on racial privilege in in conjunction with teaching the book “Dear Martin” and in preparation for a discussion on point of view in literature. Meanwhile, Missouri, like most (all?) red states, faces an unprecedented shortage of teachers. To me, the best possible thing to have happen would be for all of her colleagues to submit their resignations. But chances are they’re afraid of the locals.
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Post by lucyg on Apr 15, 2022 2:13:50 GMT
This makes me sick. And crazy. What is wrong with these right wingers that they can’t stand a little self-examination?
Instead, they drive off smart, caring teachers.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 15, 2022 2:29:52 GMT
No self-examination, just follow the leader. They don't want smart teachers.. lucygI lost an article I'm trying to post ... Found it!!! |
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Post by boys5times on Apr 15, 2022 3:16:32 GMT
Some of the questions...like do flesh color bandaids match your skin color, were just weird. Bandaids come in several skin tones, but if the lightest shade matches your skin tone that's a point for you being "privileged".
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Post by luckyjune on Apr 15, 2022 4:41:37 GMT
I thought every question on the pre-discussion worksheet was appropriate. The point is to get kids thinking about the things they take for granted. Their answers and the discussion lead to a POV assignment regarding characters in a book.
This is an example of good teaching. And she got fired. Heaven help us all.
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Apr 15, 2022 4:55:06 GMT
I live in Missouri and I hate the politics! It’s such a red state and I’ll never agree with the BS here.
I’ve lived in NC, SC and GA since I’ve left Canada and this is my least favorite state. DH doesn’t get why but all I can say is we have to vote in every election.
I hate that the teacher got fired. There are so many red hat MAGA people here and it just sends my BP up.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Apr 15, 2022 6:19:01 GMT
I have done similar things before when I taught multicultural lit, and based on that flimsy charge, I’d probably have been fired many times over in the last 25 years of teaching English.
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Post by SAHM wannabe on Apr 15, 2022 7:50:05 GMT
It’s getting scary out there.
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Post by Merge on Apr 15, 2022 9:51:41 GMT
Some of the questions...like do flesh color bandaids match your skin color, were just weird. Bandaids come in several skin tones, but if the lightest shade matches your skin tone that's a point for you being "privileged". It’s just meant as a starting point for discussion, I believe. And I can imagine a smart high schooler making the same point. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2022 10:57:05 GMT
Some of the questions...like do flesh color bandaids match your skin color, were just weird. Bandaids come in several skin tones, but if the lightest shade matches your skin tone that's a point for you being "privileged". Different skin tones bandaids are a relatively new thing and aren't widely available. I needed to buy more recently and only saw one box of darker colors. Nearly everything else was character, "clear" or traditional. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 15, 2022 11:57:06 GMT
What a bunch of narrow-minded morons. Gah! 😡
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 15, 2022 12:06:50 GMT
Some of the questions...like do flesh color bandaids match your skin color, were just weird. Bandaids come in several skin tones, but if the lightest shade matches your skin tone that's a point for you being "privileged". I've never seen different skin toned bandaids, so that question absolutely got me thinking about my POV. I suppose it is a privilege to be able to have bandaids match my skin, I'd never thought about it before. So I think that exercise would be great for getting students to think about the point of view of the character in the book. Why do parents think their students have to feel guilty in considering other points of view? Why don't they consider it a matter of examining the world around them for different ways of thinking? |
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 15, 2022 12:39:43 GMT
People have absolutely lost their minds. I saw a piece today about a children’s book author who wrote a book about a unicorn that was covered in rainbows and was told he couldn’t read it; the school decided it was gay.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Apr 15, 2022 12:58:01 GMT
Some of the questions...like do flesh color bandaids match your skin color, were just weird. Bandaids come in several skin tones, but if the lightest shade matches your skin tone that's a point for you being "privileged". And yet, unless I buy them with my own money, the school only provides one shade of bandaids. And depending on the store, they are not readily available. . |
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Post by luckyjune on Apr 15, 2022 13:40:01 GMT
I have done similar things before when I taught multicultural lit, and based on that flimsy charge, I’d probably have been fired many times over in the last 25 years of teaching English. Same. |
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Post by luckyjune on Apr 15, 2022 13:50:45 GMT
Some of the questions...like do flesh color bandaids match your skin color, were just weird. Bandaids come in several skin tones, but if the lightest shade matches your skin tone that's a point for you being "privileged". Not stopping to consider why bandaids were originally "flesh tone" in color is the issue of privilege. Hell, calling a color "flesh tone" as a color is even an issue...as if that pinky-beige is the only skin color out there. |
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Post by Anita on Apr 15, 2022 13:57:34 GMT
I am so glad my kids are out of school. I hope this younger generation rebels mightily against the growing restrictions and fuckery going on in this country.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 15, 2022 15:26:28 GMT
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 15, 2022 15:28:23 GMT
Some of the questions...like do flesh color bandaids match your skin color, were just weird. Bandaids come in several skin tones, but if the lightest shade matches your skin tone that's a point for you being "privileged". I just bought bandaids at CVS yesterday and there were exactly zero options on the shelf that were not clear or light peach (my white skin tone). So. There's that. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 15, 2022 15:49:48 GMT
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Post by SockMonkey on Apr 15, 2022 15:55:52 GMT
I mean, aside from the BandAid discussion, it's wild to me that people are quiet about teachers getting fired for teaching POINT OF VIEW.
The school board meeting in that town ought to be full of parents and community members demanding the board do better, and people at the polls voting the monsters who pass these laws out of office.
I guess Republicans won't be happy until our entire populace is as stupid and compliant as they are. (Don't bother to @ me that "not all Republicans" because I saw how that Ketanji Brown Jackson vote went down. It's almost all of y'all being messy out there - you voted for those folks.)
Just another reminder that state, local, and school board elections matter. Every day.
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Post by dawnnikol on Apr 15, 2022 16:10:09 GMT
Could someone please link or post the questions? I can't see the article without subscribing. The image is super tiny, but I'll type out the questions I can read. For reference purposes. There's a scale at the bottom that I can't make out at all, other than it goes from o-14+. I can only assume it scores your "true" answers and gives you some mor information regarding privilege. You circle true or untrue and there are 15 questions: 1. I have never been discriminated against because of my skin color 2. I have never been the only person of race in a room. 3. I have never been a victim of violence because of my race. 4. I have never been told I "sound" or "act" white. 5. I can go shopping alone most of the time and feel sure that I will not be followed or harrassed. 6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented. 7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization", I am shown that people of my color made it what it is. 8. I can walk into any hair (assume salon, but hard to read) and find someone who can cut my hair. 9. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group. 10. I can wear, or dress in second-hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to bad morals, the poverty, or the literacy of my race. 11. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to "the person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race. 12. If a traffic cop pulls me over, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race. 13. I can easily buy posters, (can't make out), picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys, and children's magazines featuring people of my race. 14. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me. 15. I can choose between cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them match my skin color easily. |
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Post by sideways on Apr 15, 2022 16:20:39 GMT
The image is super tiny, but I'll type out the questions I can read. For reference purposes. There's a scale at the bottom that I can't make out at all, other than it goes from o-14+. I can only assume it scores your "true" answers and gives you some mor information regarding privilege. You circle true or untrue and there are 15 questions: 1. I have never been discriminated against because of my skin color 2. I have never been the only person of race in a room. 3. I have never been a victim of violence because of my race. 4. I have never been told I "sound" or "act" white. 5. I can go shopping alone most of the time and feel sure that I will not be followed or harrassed. 6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented. 7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization", I am shown that people of my color made it what it is. 8. I can walk into any hair (assume salon, but hard to read) and find someone who can cut my hair. 9. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group. 10. I can wear, or dress in second-hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to bad morals, the poverty, or the literacy of my race. 11. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to "the person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race. 12. If a traffic cop pulls me over, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race. 13. I can easily buy posters, (can't make out), picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys, and children's magazines featuring people of my race. 14. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me. 15. I can choose between cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them match my skin color easily. That’s IT? THAT’S what got people all upset and got someone fired? 😳 God forbid their little precious look at anything from a different perspective. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2022 16:24:22 GMT
Some of the questions...like do flesh color bandaids match your skin color, were just weird. Bandaids come in several skin tones, but if the lightest shade matches your skin tone that's a point for you being "privileged". Except that white skinned people have always found white "flesh" coloured Band-Aids and it is only last year that J & J ( the makers of Band aid) have brought out band aids to match PoC's skin LINK Yes, I would say that is being privileged when one is able to stick a band aid on ones skin without it being too conspicuous, something PoC have been unable to do so until now. |
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Post by huskergal on Apr 15, 2022 16:31:13 GMT
I mean, aside from the BandAid discussion, it's wild to me that people are quiet about teachers getting fired for teaching POINT OF VIEW. The school board meeting in that town ought to be full of parents and community members demanding the board do better, and people at the polls voting the monsters who pass these laws out of office. I guess Republicans won't be happy until our entire populace is as stupid and compliant as they are. (Don't bother to @ me that "not all Republicans" because I saw how that Ketanji Brown Jackson vote went down. It's almost all of y'all being messy out there - you voted for those folks.) Just another reminder that state, local, and school board elections matter. Every day. They would very much like to control the narrative, much like Putin and the Taliban. The right cries about being censored on Twitter and then they do this crap. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 15, 2022 17:10:30 GMT
Some of the questions...like do flesh color bandaids match your skin color, were just weird. Bandaids come in several skin tones, but if the lightest shade matches your skin tone that's a point for you being "privileged". Not stopping to consider why bandaids were originally "flesh tone" in color is the issue of privilege. Hell, calling a color "flesh tone" as a color is even an issue...as if that pinky-beige is the only color out there. I am embarrassed to say that I had never thought about it until a few years ago. It never occurred to me that Bandaids were skin-tone. I just thought it was a color that somebody picked. 🤦♀️ |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2022 17:10:41 GMT
Honestly, this is ONE reason why I cannot stand FL. The narrow-mindedness of the majority of people down here is downright frightening to me. So, real, honest History is not permitted to be discussed or taught in schools now? Anything regarding being gay is also out. They're limiting topics and teachers in so many ways. Not only does FL (also) have the Covid shortage of teachers, but add on the other factors. Seems like DeSatan wants to turn the clock back to the 1950's or earlier, where people of color and women have no choices. It's disgusting.
Also, not being able to teach about history (Hitler, Putin, etc), is leaving out a large portion of reality. These kids are not going to know what REALLY happened in recent history. You're telling me that there are no Jewish families in these States? No gay people in their families either? No knowledge of what's happening RIGHT NOW with Russia? It's messing kids up.
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Post by Merge on Apr 15, 2022 17:59:58 GMT
What I particularly love is that they jumped straight to “fired.” No warning, no reprimand - that worksheet was apparently such an egregious violation of policy that it wiped out four years of problem-free teaching.
Outright nonrenewal for teachers is pretty rare, TBH. It’s usually reserved for behavior that actively endangers kids, or else an ongoing and persistent violation of policy. I’m glad she got the reason for her termination in writing (one worksheet!), so they can’t come back later and try to say that she was fired for something else. I hope she has legal grounds to sue.
Clearly, this firing is intended to send a chilling message to the teachers in the district and create a culture of fear. It’s reprehensible.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 15, 2022 18:12:01 GMT
Could someone please link or post the questions? I can't see the article without subscribing. The image is super tiny, but I'll type out the questions I can read. For reference purposes. There's a scale at the bottom that I can't make out at all, other than it goes from o-14+. I can only assume it scores your "true" answers and gives you some mor information regarding privilege. You circle true or untrue and there are 15 questions: 1. I have never been discriminated against because of my skin color 2. I have never been the only person of race in a room. 3. I have never been a victim of violence because of my race. 4. I have never been told I "sound" or "act" white. 5. I can go shopping alone most of the time and feel sure that I will not be followed or harrassed. 6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented. 7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization", I am shown that people of my color made it what it is. 8. I can walk into any hair (assume salon, but hard to read) and find someone who can cut my hair. 9. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group. 10. I can wear, or dress in second-hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to bad morals, the poverty, or the literacy of my race. 11. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to "the person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race. 12. If a traffic cop pulls me over, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race. 13. I can easily buy posters, (can't make out), picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys, and children's magazines featuring people of my race. 14. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me. 15. I can choose between cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them match my skin color easily. Thank you for taking the time and effort to type them out. Like others have said, it's difficult to understand why she was fired for facilitating a conversation over race and privilege. Even the books seems relatively uncontroversial. |
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Post by Judy26 on Apr 15, 2022 18:21:18 GMT
I hope a cadre of shark lawyers offer her free counsel. She needs to own that school board by the time they get done suing their small minded, bigoted asses. I can’t begin to express my anger over this.
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