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Post by grammadee on Apr 20, 2022 22:46:18 GMT
If you have a SB glimmer foil system, when do you remove the platform from the base? Before or after you have placed the foil and the rest of the sandwich? I have been setting the plate on the platform, hitting the timer button, then when it quits blinking I place the foil and pp or cs, make the sandwich with the other plate(s), then try to remove the platform from the base.
The only glitch I am finding is when I go to move the platform from the base to the diecutting machine. The base does not come away smoothly, and then I end up jerking it and jiggling the sandwich which leads to less than optimal results.
I have been playing with mine and enjoying the results. Have had success using it with some of my "regular" cutting plates and dies, but am also collecting additional foiling plates. So far i have Spellbinders, PinkFresh, and WAffle Flower plates, and they all seem to work well. Just have this one problem.
What am I doing wrong? Is there a trick to releasing the platform? Should I take it off the base once it's hot? Help!
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azcrafty
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Post by azcrafty on Apr 20, 2022 23:48:38 GMT
Sorry, can't help. I just purchased my hot foiling system and will play this weekend.
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Post by kkrenn on Apr 21, 2022 2:09:02 GMT
I have a Gemini Foil Press and have noticed a bit of a tug when taking it off the heating base.
Maybe try a hinge method with your die and foil. If you search youtube for hot foil hinge method you should find an example.
Hopefully over use it will be easier to pull off!
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Post by wendifful on Apr 21, 2022 3:08:06 GMT
I usually do it like this:
1) Place plate, set timer
2) In the middle of warming up, I place my foil and then cardstock
3) Once timer is up, I undock the platform from the base
4) I move the platform to my die cut machine, where I put the other plates on top and then run it through
I find that this way things aren't getting jostled as much when undocking/placing plates.
Definitely try the hinge method (Yana Smakula has a ton of tips on her YouTube channel) for precise applications. But in my opinion, it's always best to have a piece of cardstock larger than you need, plus foil that is at least a bit larger than the plate. I see some videos where people cut the tiniest strips of foil and even with the hinge method, they move easily. I think it's easier to remove overfoiling and cut your cardstock down than to spend so much time positioning the plate. But I'm a bit of a lazy crafter, so YMMV.
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Post by grammadee on Apr 21, 2022 14:52:05 GMT
I usually do it like this: 1) Place plate, set timer 2) In the middle of warming up, I place my foil and then cardstock 3) Once timer is up, I undock the platform from the base 4) I move the platform to my die cut machine, where I put the other plates on top and then run it through I find that this way things aren't getting jostled as much when undocking/placing plates. Definitely try the hinge method (Yana Smakula has a ton of tips on her YouTube channel) for precise applications. But in my opinion, it's always best to have a piece of cardstock larger than you need, plus foil that is at least a bit larger than the plate. I see some videos where people cut the tiniest strips of foil and even with the hinge method, they move easily. I think it's easier to remove overfoiling and cut your cardstock down than to spend so much time positioning the plate. But I'm a bit of a lazy crafter, so YMMV. Thanks. I will try undocking the platform before adding the plates. Any tips for the undocking itself? I have tried pulling it streight out, lifting the handle a bit while tugging, maybe a bit of pulling slightly to the left (away from the connection at back right), but none very vigorously b/c I don't want to jiggle anything.
I watched Yana's video and found it interesting. I had thought of using tape, but had been worried the heat would cause issues with that. If you use her hinge method, what tape do you use? I don't have masking tape so my choices would be scotch tape or washi tape. |
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Post by wendifful on Apr 21, 2022 17:29:06 GMT
I usually do it like this: 1) Place plate, set timer 2) In the middle of warming up, I place my foil and then cardstock 3) Once timer is up, I undock the platform from the base 4) I move the platform to my die cut machine, where I put the other plates on top and then run it through I find that this way things aren't getting jostled as much when undocking/placing plates. Definitely try the hinge method (Yana Smakula has a ton of tips on her YouTube channel) for precise applications. But in my opinion, it's always best to have a piece of cardstock larger than you need, plus foil that is at least a bit larger than the plate. I see some videos where people cut the tiniest strips of foil and even with the hinge method, they move easily. I think it's easier to remove overfoiling and cut your cardstock down than to spend so much time positioning the plate. But I'm a bit of a lazy crafter, so YMMV. Thanks. I will try undocking the platform before adding the plates. Any tips for the undocking itself? I have tried pulling it streight out, lifting the handle a bit while tugging, maybe a bit of pulling slightly to the left (away from the connection at back right), but none very vigorously b/c I don't want to jiggle anything.
I watched Yana's video and found it interesting. I had thought of using tape, but had been worried the heat would cause issues with that. If you use her hinge method, what tape do you use? I don't have masking tape so my choices would be scotch tape or washi tape. No extra tips for undocking, it's just a bit less smooth than one might think, imo. I have the same "turbulent" experience when undocking as you've described so I think it's inevitable. |
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Post by pinklady on Apr 21, 2022 17:57:57 GMT
I usually do it like this: 1) Place plate, set timer 2) In the middle of warming up, I place my foil and then cardstock 3) Once timer is up, I undock the platform from the base 4) I move the platform to my die cut machine, where I put the other plates on top and then run it through I find that this way things aren't getting jostled as much when undocking/placing plates. Definitely try the hinge method (Yana Smakula has a ton of tips on her YouTube channel) for precise applications. But in my opinion, it's always best to have a piece of cardstock larger than you need, plus foil that is at least a bit larger than the plate. I see some videos where people cut the tiniest strips of foil and even with the hinge method, they move easily. I think it's easier to remove overfoiling and cut your cardstock down than to spend so much time positioning the plate. But I'm a bit of a lazy crafter, so YMMV. Thanks. I will try undocking the platform before adding the plates. Any tips for the undocking itself? I have tried pulling it streight out, lifting the handle a bit while tugging, maybe a bit of pulling slightly to the left (away from the connection at back right), but none very vigorously b/c I don't want to jiggle anything.
I watched Yana's video and found it interesting. I had thought of using tape, but had been worried the heat would cause issues with that. If you use her hinge method, what tape do you use? I don't have masking tape so my choices would be scotch tape or washi tape. I haven't gotten on the hot foil bandwagon...yet...but I've seen Jennifer McGuire use the hinge method as well as taping the cardstock/foil to the glimmer base so it doesn't move. If you search her blog for hot foiling a bunch of videos come up. She mix and matches her hacks so you may need to watch a few different videos. She uses the EZ See tape. |
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Post by cbet on Apr 21, 2022 18:05:08 GMT
I'm in a facebook foiling group - the FSC - and the leader uses Cricut heat-safe tape to tape her two plates/shims together and then she tapes them to the platform itself, so they kind of open like a book. I tried it and it really does help with everything shifting when you undock and move the platform.
Usually I put the hot foil plate down shortly after setting the timer platform; when the timer goes off, I undock the platform and then put down the foil and cardstock, then the plates and run it thru my big shot. I'm not 100% perfect, but it's definitely better than I was without the taping and without undocking first.
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Post by wendifful on Apr 21, 2022 18:18:05 GMT
Oh sorry grammadee, I forgot to add that I use washi tape for the hinge method and it works great! |
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Post by marg on Apr 22, 2022 12:35:57 GMT
I have used the yellow Spellbinders tape as well as the Purple masking tape and they've both worked well for hot foiling. I have to tape it because I can't keep it from moving around otherwise.
Just a tip - don't overheat your base or it will warp. I made that mistake, thinking I could let it heat up however long I wanted and not worry about it. Now my base is curved upwards. I have the Gemini.
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Post by cbet on Apr 22, 2022 15:25:13 GMT
I have used the yellow Spellbinders tape as well as the Purple masking tape and they've both worked well for hot foiling. I have to tape it because I can't keep it from moving around otherwise. Just a tip - don't overheat your base or it will warp. I made that mistake, thinking I could let it heat up however long I wanted and not worry about it. Now my base is curved upwards. I have the Gemini. Sorry about your base - some of the ladies in the Facebook group had that same problem. I think they were able to purchase just a replacement platform for less than the whole system, if that helps. |
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Post by grammadee on Apr 22, 2022 15:33:44 GMT
Just a tip - don't overheat your base or it will warp. I made that mistake, thinking I could let it heat up however long I wanted and not worry about it. Now my base is curved upwards. I have the Gemini. Good to know. Did you contact the manufacturer? The Spellbinders model is SUPPOSED to automatically shut down if left "too long" in heating mode. Don't know what that means, but if my platform warps from over heating I will be contacting them. BTW the Spellbinders system is on sale at SB.com for just over $80US today. |
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Post by cbet on Apr 22, 2022 21:33:01 GMT
Just a tip - don't overheat your base or it will warp. I made that mistake, thinking I could let it heat up however long I wanted and not worry about it. Now my base is curved upwards. I have the Gemini. Good to know. Did you contact the manufacturer? The Spellbinders model is SUPPOSED to automatically shut down if left "too long" in heating mode. Don't know what that means, but if my platform warps from over heating I will be contacting them. BTW the Spellbinders system is on sale at SB.com for just over $80US today. If it helps, (back to the Facebook group) Nancy there foils A. LOT. She had no problem with her Glimmer platform warping. She showed a comparison on one of her videos and the Glimmer platform is quite a bit thicker. Also, Gemini has their own foil that works at a lower heat than most; their foiling system has a heat setting. The Glimmer has no such setting; everything is at high heat - such that the Gemini papercraft foil doesn't work with it (only their multipurpose foil). She said that as long as she sticks with the lower temp setting on the Gemini, the new platform is not warping. The Glimmer will shut down if it's left on without the platform being undocked for a while (maybe 20 minutes or so?) |
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