bethany102399
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Post by bethany102399 on Apr 26, 2022 13:54:00 GMT
and I feel really guilty.
She was pretty confident, and I felt like she was where she needed to be. I go to pick her up from school in her car (my old car) which we've been teaching her in and it's got a flat. I grab my car (which she has also driven and actually prefers. Yeah me too kid) pick her up from school and explain what's happened. She chose to go ahead and take the test in my car.
Apparently I said something to her that got in her head, then she couldn't find the lights or the windshield wipers in my car, got flustered and blew the whole thing. She then proceeded to blame me for it, I got angry and yelled and the while thing was just a dumpster fire.
The highway patrol officer read off the list of things she failed for me so we could work on them, some of them were she was clearly flustered/nervous, some were my fault- I didn't know they asked so we didn't go over it.
My Dh's comment was everyone had the best of intentions, it just didn't work out. I know this is an opportunity to begin again more intelligently, and we will do that. but I still feel guilty.
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Post by auntkelly on Apr 26, 2022 14:02:32 GMT
I think your husband has the right attitude.
I think you need to back off and let your daughter take the lead in preparing for the next test. It should be her responsibility to know the areas covered on the test, not you. It's great that you help her study, but it's not your responsibility to ensure that your daughter is fully prepared.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Apr 26, 2022 14:07:01 GMT
If she has driven your car, she should know where all those items were anyway.
Sounds like an already stressful situation was exacerbated by having to change cars. Some days are just like that. One thing is off, then sets all kinds of other things in motion. You don't need to feel guilty any more than she needs to feel like a failure. Make some hot chocolate and sit down and laugh about the "dumpster fire" of a day. Perhaps share other times when your own day has turned into a dumpster fire.
Then, hand her the reins and let her deal.
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Post by iluvpink on Apr 26, 2022 14:07:07 GMT
I'm sorry, that sounds frustrating all around. I hope it goes better next time!
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Post by busy on Apr 26, 2022 14:08:39 GMT
No, they weren't. She's not practiced and/or skilled enough at driving yet if simple things got her flustered and unable to perform. She needs to be able to responsibly and safely handle a car even if something didn't go her way. Lives depend on it. Driving can be stressful and being able to handle that stress and any external stresses and still drive safely is part of being a safe driver. Even for new drivers. Lastly, everything that happens behind the wheel when she is driving his HER responsibility. She'd better understand that before she's driving independently. Getting in an accident because your mommy was mad at you isn't an excuse.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 26, 2022 14:10:16 GMT
I agree with your husband. It’s pretty common for kids to fail their tests here. When I turned 16 it wasn’t a requirement in my state to take a driving test but there was a lottery and I won (not!). I failed twice. The first time was because we were not taught how to parallel park and I refused to try on a downtown street. The second time was for a stupid reason. It showed me what to work on and all ended well.
It isn’t only up to you to know what is on the test. Your dd has responsibility in that.
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 26, 2022 14:10:39 GMT
No, they weren't. She's not practiced and/or skilled enough at driving yet if simple things got her flustered and unable to perform. She needs to be able to responsibly and safely handle a car even if something didn't go her way. Lives depend on it. Driving can be stressful and being able to handle that stress and any external stresses and still drive safely is part of being a safe driver. Even for new drivers. I agree with this 100%. Driving is stressful. If you’re not able to handle stress while driving, you are not yet comfortable enough driving to be licensed. It is hard, but it really sounds to me like she needs more practice.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 26, 2022 14:18:29 GMT
I completely agree with the others that said this is not your fault at all. If she got flustered at a small change over what car it was she was driving she is not ready to drive.
I completely understand your daughter being upset and probably embarrassed about not passing, but she shouldn't be blaming you and you shouldn't be accepting that blame.
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Post by artbabe on Apr 26, 2022 14:28:53 GMT
I failed my first driving test. I passed the parallel parking part (the part I was worried about) and failed the regular driving part.
So I practiced more, waited a few months, took the test again, and passed.
It has had no effect on the rest of my life. You know that. She'll be fine.
It is not your fault- this is totally her responsibility. I know it is so tempting to make everything easy for kids but it really does them no favors. Sometimes failure is the best teacher. She'll get something from this experience- the knowledge that sometimes things don't go well the first time and that is okay. She has to learn to pick herself up and try again.
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Post by bethany102399 on Apr 26, 2022 14:31:00 GMT
As always you guys bring a perspective I was not considering, and undoubtedly needed to hear. You're right It is her responsibility. I think we both thought she had what she needed and when she didn't things happened. While I did push back both loudly and later when we talked it out, internally I am accepting blame. Clearly I need to change that mindset.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Apr 26, 2022 14:33:53 GMT
I'll just agree with everything that busy said. If changing cars last minute threw her off that badly, then she's not ready to drive solo. That's not the end of the world, as teens become ready at different times. Don't know if they are available but you might consider a session with a driving school. Those are professionals who know what to teach and how to teach it to new drivers.
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Post by Merge on Apr 26, 2022 14:36:56 GMT
I failed my first test; my oldest failed her first test. No big deal. Mostly anxiety in both cases, which is what sounds like happened to yours as well.
It will all be fine and you'll laugh about it later.
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Post by ~summer~ on Apr 26, 2022 14:38:30 GMT
Around here it is super common to fail the first time. Just means she wasn’t quite ready.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 14:41:08 GMT
My oldest failed his driving test the first time because the instructor had him get on a business route that has three different speed limits. Where he got on was one limit but the sign showing the change was behind the on ramp and not posted at that particular entrance. He sped up to the posted limit he knew of which was 15 over that small stretch. I failed in teaching him that road's weird speed limits. The instructor said, otherwise he was fine save for a few turning too fast. We rescheduled, paid the fee again, and got a different person. He passed with no problems. The second person said that the route the older guy has his drivers do has actually been struck off the recommended routes for testing. DS wasn't even supposed to take that route but the instructor was older and won't stop using it.
The other passed on the first try but barely. He got dinged for turning into the wrong lane (not wrong way, just not the lane closest to him) multiple times and not checking his blind spot enough.
It's not the end of the world and it's fairly common. My kids did better with DH coaching them during the learner permit days than they did with me.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 26, 2022 14:45:08 GMT
I flunked the first time too and it actually was my mom’s fault because she never let me drive her car to practice. Well, maybe she let me drive it once in the six months I had my permit. Every other time I had the rare chance to practice driving it was in somebody else’s vehicle so there was no consistency at all. I did great when I had my on the road instruction so it was purely a lack of practice. I passed the second time around because DH (then BF) found a $500 beater car for me that I bought, and had me practice driving a lot with him in that car.
HOWEVER, he stressed me out so much that I told him if we ever had a kid, I would be the one doing the practice driving sessions because he’s too loud and yells too much!
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 26, 2022 14:46:04 GMT
I agree with the majority here. I failed my first drivers test because at a Rotaryish type place (was a weird town road merging place) the person that had the right away motioned for me to go, so I did…don’t. 😄. All part of life’s lessons. I had to park the car at the end, walk to my mom’s work and tell her so she could go get the car. You learn and move on. And while this was many, many, many years ago we still laugh about it today…but not so much on that day. 😆
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Post by lisacharlotte on Apr 26, 2022 14:46:53 GMT
Here’s the thing, hopefully it’s teaching her what all drivers go through and have to figure out, new to us cars require a little investigation and thought before getting in and just driving away. Think about the last new car you bought and the challenge of figuring out where everything is.
I regularly drive two different cars. They are the same make, but different models and 5 years difference in age. After driving one for a few weeks, it takes time to get used to the other car and where all the buttons gauges are. They have fuel doors on different sides, so I always have to check before I pull up to the pump.
I had to move a vehicle at work last week. It’s a suburban and I am unfamiliar with the ins and outs. I spent at least 2 minutes looking at the dash and steering wheel trying to figure out how to get the windshield washer and wipers to work.
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Post by eventhinker on Apr 26, 2022 14:46:54 GMT
I have two adult boys. My oldest was so smart that he graduated early from high school, very high ranking, went to a great private college….all this to say that he failed the drivers test FIVE times! He actually had to renew his permit to take the last three tests. 10 years later, and he’s a wonderful driver.
my youngest broke his driving ankle the year he was training. He then went to college, and couldn’t have a car there anyway. He did not get his license until he was 23. Failed twice *worried himself to a near panic attack* and within a year bought a new car, and he’s actually the best and most responsible driver of all of us.
It will all work out for your daughter
(side note, my mom never drive, she told me her first husband took her out, yelled at her, and she never tried again).
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 26, 2022 14:49:50 GMT
'my kid failed her drivers test' Read your subject line again and again!
SHE failed the test, not you. She needs practice. How is she going the handle a road closure, an accident in front of her or any other disruption while she is driving?
She will survive!!
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bethany102399
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Post by bethany102399 on Apr 26, 2022 14:57:40 GMT
We never should have taken my car, that's one of the things I feel guilty about. the e-brake is wildly different on my car than on hers and I'm not even that familiar with it (something I got the stink eye about from DH when I told him that last night. He's right, It's a safety issue). I actually pulled over on a hill on my way into work this morning and went over it again for my own knowledge.
That said, hindsight is always 20/20. I know why she wanted to try and get this done, and to be fair I agreed as this week is nuts and I knew it was the only time we could do it. it brought home to me she's not ready. Her trying to put it back on me brought up other stuff that has nothing to do with this and the result was I felt like a bad mom. We're coming up on the third anniversary of my mom's death so my own mindset is down.
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Post by tanya2 on Apr 26, 2022 14:58:23 GMT
did she take drivers training? because it's usually their job to make sure she knows what areas they will test on. Having a different car can definitely throw her a bit though especially when she was already really nervous
my dd failed her first test too, before she had even left the parking lot. Unfortunately upon arriving she had to park in a weird spot so she ended up running over a curb pulling out (which with more experience she could have avoided but oh well). She was so upset, she cried the whole way home. We immediately rescheduled though and she did just fine on the next test
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Post by shanniebananie on Apr 26, 2022 14:59:52 GMT
Do you have a driving school in your area? Even though my son didn't do his drivers ed through it, they offered a practice test (where they go over the results and things to work on) and then an actual test which is certified and sealed and they you can take it to the DMV.
We found this took a lot of pressure off the actual test situation.
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bethany102399
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Post by bethany102399 on Apr 26, 2022 15:00:02 GMT
SHE failed the test, not you. She needs practice. How is she going the handle a road closure, an accident in front of her or any other disruption while she is driving? This will come with practice, both on her own and with one of us in the car. I don't expect her to be race car driver level reactive at this stage, and neither does the highway patrol. How about we calm down a bit here.
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bethany102399
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Post by bethany102399 on Apr 26, 2022 15:02:06 GMT
Unfortunately with Covid drivers ed is backed up for months here. We looked into classes but it's not feasible at this time.
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 26, 2022 15:25:48 GMT
You both thought she was ready, but it sounds like she needs a bit more practice. There's no need to blame anyone or feel guilty. It happens all the time. You both know what needs to be done -- practice what to do when something unexpected comes up.
It's probably worth throwing things out at her while she's driving along, or even while you're driving along -- What do you think that driver is going to do next? What's the speed limit on this road? How would you handle a dog running out in front of you here? What if that car starts backing out on the road? Give her plenty of practice in handling those types of questions and situations and she'll be ready soon enough.
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Post by Lexica on Apr 26, 2022 15:39:56 GMT
You will both look back on this and laugh one day. As for not knowing where everything was located, I can help her feel less upset and alone in that. I bought a brand new car. After having only driven it during the day, I ended up going to Hobby Lobby later one afternoon. I guess I got caught up in thinking about a couple of different projects and looking at a bunch of different supplies so I spent more time in the store than I anticipated. When I came out after buying my things, it was dark outside.
I went to my car, put in the key, and realized I didn't know exactly where the lights were located. First I did a feel around and didn't find what I was looking for. I had to get my phone from my purse and use the light to locate the correct knob turn my lights on. I had a good laugh at myself for not thinking ahead, but hey, it happens. So you can tell her that I didn't know where everything was located on my new car, and I'm "grandma" aged! I've been driving over 50 years, certainly long enough to know better!
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Post by fotos4u2 on Apr 26, 2022 15:45:37 GMT
Sorry for your daughter and sorry for you that she took her frustration out on you. I remember with each of my kids totally stressing out for them before their tests. Two of them failed the written portion on the first try (one failed twice and one let his permit expire which was a nightmare in itself).
That being said I had a friend in high school who failed the drive test on her first shot. The ironic thing was this girl had been driving alone without a license (her family was pretty loose on rules and she started driving her new car alone pretty much the moment she got her permit) for almost a year with no issues.
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Post by fredfreddy44 on Apr 26, 2022 15:55:38 GMT
All my kids failed the written test or diving test at least once. It is a long process but when they pass, that means they are really ready. It took my middle child 4 times to pass the driving test. He finally did it 14 months after the first. He is my most cautious driver.
It is hard not a give them a pep talk before the test, but I have found a "good luck" is the best thing to say only.
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Post by iowgirl on Apr 26, 2022 16:01:58 GMT
My son failed his written test to get his learners permit (age 14).
He was so cock-sure that he wouldn't have any trouble passing it. I had picked up the book for him to read over before the test, but nope. He'd been driving since he was a little shaver, he didn't need to study.
I sat there and watched him melt at the DMV as he took the test on the computer. boop - boop - boop - he turned around and looked at me in disbelief as the computer told him, "nope, sonny, you indeed do not know it all!" ... LOL
He studied the book and passed it easily the second time, but he had to do the walk of shame going back, because his sisters passed it with flying colors when they took it.
Luckily all my kids took drivers Ed the summer between 8th grade and freshman year and had their school permits in time to drive to school as freshmen.
They are all great drivers, but I had them behind the wheel all the time after they got there learner permit at 14. I never drove anywhere - they drove me. Every weather condition, day and night. They had a lot of experience behind the wheel before they were 14, but that was mostly off-road.
They could all back a pickup up to the trailer and hook onto a 5th-wheel and get it ready to go, as soon as they could reach the pedal. Farm life is good for learning early!
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Post by DEX on Apr 26, 2022 16:08:26 GMT
I failed the first time I took it and so did my son. I felt confident and I know my son did. I sometimes wonder if they sense the initial over confidence and are more diligent on scoring.
It is not the end of the world. She can take it again in your car. She will barely remember it when she is jutting around town with her new found independence .
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