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tracylynn
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Post by tracylynn on Apr 27, 2022 15:56:23 GMT
As cases are ticking up.
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Post by naby64 on Apr 27, 2022 15:57:20 GMT
Which if you heard Fox this morning, the announcer said "Fauci pivots once again". I muttered quite loudly well that is why it is called an endemic and we might have gotten here sooner if people had worked together. I then turned on my happy music to finish getting ready.
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 27, 2022 15:59:33 GMT
But hospitalizations and deaths are going down.
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Post by peabay on Apr 27, 2022 16:00:53 GMT
Well, my dh had it last week, but it was very, very mild. And I (knock wood) didn't catch it, nor did my dd#3, who lives with us.
So, while people still are getting it, it's certainly not as dangerous as it was, to most (I of course recognize that it can be very dangerous to some.)
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Post by danalz on Apr 27, 2022 16:30:29 GMT
we have all had COVID in our house over the past two weeks. It wasn't mild but none of us went to the hospital. My DH and I got the antivirals due to health issues. It was like the worst flu I've ever had. I'm a week out from my positive test and still feeling run down and exhausted. we are thankful that we were all vaccinated and boostered, otherwise it could have been much worse.
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Post by Merge on Apr 27, 2022 16:33:46 GMT
But hospitalizations and deaths are going down. Exactly. Cases ticking up are not particularly significant from a public health standpoint if they're not accompanied by an uptick in serious illness/death.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2022 16:51:41 GMT
It's really not so much about the number of cases as such although it does have a bearing on it. It's about the meaning of the words Pandemic/Epidemic/Endemic. I would imagine as a medical professional that is what Dr Fauci was thinking of. AN EPIDEMIC is a disease that affects a large number of people within a community, population, or region. ENDEMIC is something that belongs to a particular people or country. A PANDEMIC is an epidemic that’s spread over multiple countries or continents. In other words a Pandemic is an Epidemic that travels globally. Covid is no longer travelling globally the way it was 18 months/two years ago. It is still travelling but not to the extent it did earlier.
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Post by RosieKat on Apr 27, 2022 18:02:24 GMT
Yes, @dottyscrapper has it spot on. Now I just worry that the idiots will take this as "Oh, it's basically gone, nothing to worry about, everything 100% as normal!" To me, it means that we can still live life, but that we do have a new normal (yeah, one of our favorite phrases) and we still need to proceed with caution. Wear masks when numbers are going up, be smart about what we do, don't stand right smack up against people in line and breathe down on them (yeah, talking to you, dude at the post office who was wayyyy too close for even pre-pandemic courtesy!), get vaxxed/boostered as appropriate, etc.
We can't forget the procedures that got us to this point, and we need to still implement them when situations warrant.
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Post by peabay on Apr 27, 2022 19:37:27 GMT
Yes, @dottyscrapper has it spot on. Now I just worry that the idiots will take this as "Oh, it's basically gone, nothing to worry about, everything 100% as normal!" To me, it means that we can still live life, but that we do have a new normal (yeah, one of our favorite phrases) and we still need to proceed with caution. Wear masks when numbers are going up, be smart about what we do, don't stand right smack up against people in line and breathe down on them (yeah, talking to you, dude at the post office who was wayyyy too close for even pre-pandemic courtesy!), get vaxxed/boostered as appropriate, etc. We can't forget the procedures that got us to this point, and we need to still implement them when situations warrant. I wear my mask everywhere and I'm sure there are people who think "wtf, lady?" What they don't know is my dh had it just last week and I'm protecting THEM from what I might be carrying, not concerned about protecting myself.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 27, 2022 19:39:18 GMT
Hey Fauci - perhaps you can get US to drop 1 day covid test for re-entry for vaccinated and boosted citizens please!
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Post by chlerbie on Apr 27, 2022 19:46:40 GMT
Here in MA, we were definitely on an uptick, but as of recently, our waste water is showing that cases are slowing and I've got my fingers crossed that the trend will continue. The thing about counting cases is that many people are testing at home and not reporting. Or, one person in the family gets it and others get sick so know that they have it and don't get tested. But waste water is a great indicator of where you're at.
I'm still masking in public. Just seems like a simple thing I can keep doing. Here, I'd say it's about 50/50 on whether other people are doing it or not.
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Post by pilcas on Apr 27, 2022 21:16:39 GMT
My daughter got COVID over a week ago. The first day she felt really lousy and the next couple of days she had a runny nose. On the whole it was a mild case. Neither my husband nor I caught it. We are all vaxed and boosted.
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Post by mimima on Apr 27, 2022 21:20:38 GMT
I'm currently lazing on the couch with Covid - yesterday and this morning were rough but I feel like the worst is over. It went around my parish on our Easter.
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Post by Lexica on Apr 27, 2022 22:51:34 GMT
Yes, @dottyscrapper has it spot on. Now I just worry that the idiots will take this as "Oh, it's basically gone, nothing to worry about, everything 100% as normal!" To me, it means that we can still live life, but that we do have a new normal (yeah, one of our favorite phrases) and we still need to proceed with caution. Wear masks when numbers are going up, be smart about what we do, don't stand right smack up against people in line and breathe down on them (yeah, talking to you, dude at the post office who was wayyyy too close for even pre-pandemic courtesy!), get vaxxed/boostered as appropriate, etc. We can't forget the procedures that got us to this point, and we need to still implement them when situations warrant.standi I wear my mask everywhere and I'm sure there are people who think "wtf, lady?" What they don't know is my dh had it just last week and I'm protecting THEM from what I might be carrying, not concerned about protecting myself. I just went to pick up my medication from my pharmacy, which is inside my medical provider's building. They are still requiring masks for everyone that enters. They have stopped taking your temperature via standing in front of a machine. I figure as long as they are requiring a mask, I will wear one everywhere. Don't even let anyone make you feel bad about wearing yours! You are doing so for the right reason and if they can't figure that out, so be it.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 27, 2022 22:54:01 GMT
He said that the US is no longer in the ‘pandemic’ phase he did not say Covid is gone.
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Post by RosieKat on Apr 27, 2022 22:56:43 GMT
He said that the US is no longer in the ‘pandemic’ phase he did not say Covid is gone. Right...but how many people will hear that as "Covid is gone?" Around here, I'm betting a fair share.
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Post by fkawitchypea on Apr 28, 2022 10:35:07 GMT
The county next to mine just issued a recommendation to mask indoors because of the increase in cases. The person who sits next to me at work just tested positive. I have just gotten over a 2 week cold/flu (tested negative for covid) so I am praying I don't get it. I cannot be sick again!
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 28, 2022 12:43:38 GMT
This article explains Fauci’s comments really well. Between vaccinations and acquired immunity, especially from omicron, our collective immunity levels are fairly high at the moment. More than 60% of the US population and 75% over age 11 have had covid. Treatments, especially the new pill one are really effective (90%) at preventing hospitalizations. We’re in a much better place, but covid is not over. We’re still in a pandemic, it’s just decelerating and approaching the control phase. www.npr.org/2022/04/27/1094997608/fauci-us-pandemic-phase-covid-19"We are certainly right now in this country out of the pandemic phase," Fauci said in an interview with PBS NewsHour. "Namely, we don't have 900,000 new infections a day and tens and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths. We are at a low level right now."
"So if you're saying, 'Are we out of the pandemic phase in this country?' — we are," he said.
But in an interview with The Associated Press on Wednesday, Fauci said the pandemic isn't over. "We are in a different moment of the pandemic," he said. After a brutal winter surge, Fauci added, "we've now decelerated and transitioned into more of a controlled phase. By no means does that mean the pandemic is over."
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 28, 2022 12:54:31 GMT
More comments from Fauci www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/04/27/pandemic-phase-over-fauci-covid/ “We’re really in a transitional phase, from a deceleration of the numbers into hopefully a more controlled phase and endemicity,” Fauci told The Washington Post.
Fauci’s comments came a day after he told PBS’s “NewsHour” that he believed the country is “out of the pandemic phase,” and he expanded on, and clarified, that view Wednesday, making clear that the pandemic is not over and the United States could still see new waves of infections as the virus continues to mutate and spin off highly transmissible variants. But Fauci and other infectious-disease experts are hoping that the population has built up enough immunity from previous infections and vaccinations to avoid another devastating surge in hospitalizations and deaths.
The world is still in a pandemic. There’s no doubt about that. Don’t anybody get any misinterpretation of that. We are still experiencing a pandemic,” Fauci said.
Fauci took pains Wednesday to explain his thinking. The country has not reached a major milestone, he said. He was pointing out what is clear from the coronavirus trackers in recent months: The country is in a different position than it was previously. He said the United States was in the “full-blown pandemic phase” in the winter, then entered a period he refers to as the “deceleration” phase. “There’s the full-blown pandemic dynamic, the way we were months ago, where we were having 900,000 cases a day, tens of thousands of hospitalizations, 3,000 deaths a day,” he said. “The deaths went from 3,000 down to 300.” The country is transitioning, he said, to what he calls the “control” phase. That’s where he expects the health emergency to settle down, with the virus still circulating but not causing devastating new waves of hospitalization and death. Asked if the country is in the control phase now, he said not quite yet.
Right now, we’re at a low enough level that I believe that we’re transitioning into endemicity. … We’re not in the full-blown explosive pandemic phase. That does not mean that the pandemic is over,” Fauci said. “A pandemic means widespread infection throughout the world. … In our country, we’re transitioning into more of a controlled endemicity.”
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Apr 28, 2022 13:08:36 GMT
Let's be real, this will always be around just like the flu is always around. We need to find a way to live with it the best way possible. DH is totally against masks (but did wear them when required) says he thinks masks in medical facilities may never go away and says that actually makes sense. There are sick people there and people coming in sick so do what you can to reduce the spread. In the general public, wear one if you want, but don't expect others to. If you don't want to wear a mask then leave those that do alone. Let everyone have their freedom, their right, to decide their comfort level.
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Post by huskermom98 on Apr 28, 2022 13:17:12 GMT
Hey Fauci - perhaps you can get US to drop 1 day covid test for re-entry for vaccinated and boosted citizens please! Yes! This would certainly make my son's upcoming (& long overdue after multiple postponements) school trip to Germany easier!
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Post by peppermintpatty on Apr 28, 2022 15:31:01 GMT
Hey Fauci - perhaps you can get US to drop 1 day covid test for re-entry for vaccinated and boosted citizens please! AMEN!!!! I hear you. We are traveling to Greece in June and I would like nothing more than to not have to pay $150 out of pocket to get my 4 family members and myself tested. We are one of the only countries still doing this. I'm fine with wearing a mask on my flight but I don't want to have to worry about getting stuck in another country.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 28, 2022 15:42:12 GMT
Hey Fauci - perhaps you can get US to drop 1 day covid test for re-entry for vaccinated and boosted citizens please! AMEN!!!! I hear you. We are traveling to Greece in June and I would like nothing more than to not have to pay $150 out of pocket to get my 4 family members and myself tested. We are one of the only countries still doing this. I'm fine with wearing a mask on my flight but I don't want to have to worry about getting stuck in another country. I'm so frustrated by this! yes i sucked it up last summer and paid for 6! rapid tests - but we're going to Italy in a few weeks and I'm so frustrated that we're vaccinated and boosted and NO OTHER COUNTRY requires this and we have to spend an afternoon finding a rapid test! Get with the program US!
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 28, 2022 16:10:14 GMT
Without the mask mandate, it makes sense to me to keep the testing requirement, to make sure the person you're sitting next to in close quarters doesn't have Covid. And sorry, but I'm not sympathetic to the cost of the testing. If you can afford an overseas trip, you can afford the tests. Americans should consider it a cost of international travel, similar to baggage fees. We have no current plans to travel but have travelled overseas in the past and I wouldn't object to paying now. There are gaps and inconsistencies with the rule, like the fact that it's not required for domestic flights, but I don't think we should drop the testing requirement right now. Especially given the transmission of the BA.2 variant in other parts of the world. I don't think we should keep it indefinitely, I can see us dropping it at some point in the near future. Or modifying it to require testing in areas where the transmission is high. Maybe when worldwide vaccination rates are higher we can drop the testing requirement. this was written before the mask mandate ended www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/04/12/us-travel-testing-requirement-covid/
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Post by Merge on Apr 28, 2022 16:32:35 GMT
He said that the US is no longer in the ‘pandemic’ phase he did not say Covid is gone. Right...but how many people will hear that as "Covid is gone?" Around here, I'm betting a fair share. The people who will hear that had already decided Covid was gone anyway. Nothing Fauci can say or not say will change that.
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