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Post by mcjunkin on Apr 27, 2022 21:02:25 GMT
The video did not look too bad to me. But, like I said, they check my underwire pretty regularly. Part of the deal, IMO.
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pilcas
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Post by pilcas on Apr 27, 2022 21:08:22 GMT
Yes, several times. It was done by a woman and there was nothing creepy about it.
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caangel
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Post by caangel on Apr 27, 2022 21:12:41 GMT
I get the basic "stand here and wait for a female' just about every time I fly. I've had to go to a separate room and be inspected once because I was wearing a silicone 'soft packer' (a silicone penis that fits into a ring on a pair of boxer boyshorts. It was done in a little room that they kind of popped up from a wall and it was more awkward for them or me. They kind of stammered about why they pulled me and said that the person saw something in my pants and had hit the button that says I presented as female so they took me aside, awkwardly let me know what the issue was and then when I said "oh yeah, it's a silicone penis, I'm happy to show you" they skipped the pat down and asked a hundred more questions about it and let me ask them some about going through TSA with it. I always just get back of the hands and a quick pat down and haven't ever felt violated. This instance was in Canada and as we were chatting about it I asked them if they wanted to feel it and they did so that was weird but moderately entertaining. (I was testing a new product in a line for transgender people and doing a test run to see how it would work going through international security, metal detectors, scanners, etc. I wanted to see what the issues were before I just sent people out to be potentially humiliated by TSA who aren't always the most discrete or respectful.) An acquaintance of mine has a teen son who presents as female (clothing choice, long hair, makeup and feminine features) however he does not identify as female. They fly often and noticed he would get flagged for a pat down every time. Finally on TSA Agent pulled aside mom and told her that if they wanted to avoid getting flagged they should make sure TSA knew he was male and not female. Basically male genital or female breasts show up as "hot" on their scans and if they are not expecting hot zones in those areas the person will be flagged for additional screening. She was so thankful that the TSA agent took the time to explain it to them.
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peasquared
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Post by peasquared on Apr 27, 2022 21:14:57 GMT
I get a pat down nearly every time I fly because I like to wear oversized hoodies. It's never been an issue, they are always polite and appropriate.
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Post by cat2007 on Apr 27, 2022 21:37:06 GMT
I always get patted down. No matter what I wear, my lower back and left ankle always light up. I have no hardware in either spot so I have no idea what's up.
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AmeliaBloomer
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Apr 27, 2022 21:37:42 GMT
The only uncomfortable search was at a Cook County courthouse. Jury duty. Tons of people, who all knew the drill, arriving for work/court in the morning. I was simply confused about what to do and hesitated, which delayed the process for 3.5 seconds and mightily annoyed a female deputy sheriff. She showed her annoyance by very roughly moving her hand up after the legs pat and basically karate chopping my (clothed) labia. Seriously, I jumped and gasped. Shoulda’ reported her but suspected I would be perceived as a “Karen” long before the term was ever coined. I’m not a person bothered by much but I still remember that moment vividly ten years later. I get a pat down nearly every time I fly because I like to wear oversized hoodies. It's never been an issue, they are always polite and appropriate. I used to get pulled for the long, full “hippie skirts” I preferred to travel in in the summer. I finally asked if it was the skirts; they said yes, they could hide a lot; I stopped wearing them; no more pat downs. (The TSA pat downs were significantly different than the one described above.)
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Post by peano on Apr 27, 2022 21:53:44 GMT
I have been patted down 3 times recently, I think prompted by the zippered pockets on my leggings. The agents were all women, all professional. I didn't have any issues with it. When DS was 2, he was randomly selected for a patdown, which I found hilarious.
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anniebeth24
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Post by anniebeth24 on Apr 27, 2022 22:04:50 GMT
I was patted down on a recent flight because the top of my leg was showing something (not sure what). The agent said, "I'm going to need to go high on the thigh" and wanted to know if I wanted to go to a more private location. I said no and as she felt my leg she kept announcing rather loudly, "Going high on the thigh, going high on the thigh!"
Of course, I now repeat that phrase all the time.
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Post by edie3 on Apr 27, 2022 22:05:57 GMT
One time my groin set it off. Not sure why, maybe lotion? Anyway, not bad at all. The worst thing I did was forgetting I had a ziplock baggie of beach sand in my purse leaving Florida. They were very nice, but they did have to test the sand! It must have happened before to them.
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Post by scrapmaven on Apr 27, 2022 22:18:57 GMT
I can't go through the machine, so I always get pat downs. They bring a female TSA agent to me and she explains in detail what she is about to do. It's always been very professional and most of the time the agents are very friendly.
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Post by myshelly on Apr 27, 2022 22:36:04 GMT
On the way home from Disney I was told I was selected for a “big hair pat down” 🤣🤣🤣 My hair was in a messy bun. I guess Texas big is bigger than Florida big.
I always get pulled aside for extra baggage screening because I carry liquid medicine over the carry on liquid limit for my kids. It’s rx, so it’s allowed, but it gets extra screening.
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Post by AussieMeg on Apr 27, 2022 22:55:19 GMT
The worst one I had was when I flew into Saudi Arabia. My dad was working there for a few years. I met up with him in the UK, then we did a Greek cruise, then I flew back to Riyadh with him for a week. We got off the plane together. He went straight through, and I got taken into a room with some other western women. I had no idea what was going on, because they didn't speak English, and I was shitting myself. The pat down itself was no problem, and was done by a woman. It was just the initial shock of WTF is happening?!
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Post by hop2 on Apr 27, 2022 23:00:11 GMT
I have been ‘pat down’ it was awkward but I wasn’t ‘violated’ it wasn’t pleasant for me or for her.
I really don’t know why but I’m constantly setting off metal detectors. I even stopped wearing pants with zipper to the airport and I’m still beeping 1/2 the time. The pat down is annoying and awkward but it hasn’t been like a cavity search or anything. No one grabbed my crotch during a pat down or anything. It’s always been a female doing the patting down fir me. I thought it was required.
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Post by fkawitchypea on Apr 27, 2022 23:09:29 GMT
I have been patted down a few times, nothing that made me uncomfortable. But when I flew with my infant son in 2004, I had a stroller so I had to be thoroughly searched in Atlanta and they took my ds in one direction and me in another. It scared the crap out of me.
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Post by eventhinker on Apr 27, 2022 23:45:19 GMT
First time on a plane since 1979. Got pat down at departing at Pittsburgh and return flight from Memphis. Memphis gave me the bonus “check the fingers for bomb residue” routine.
I had no issues. Female TSA agent very polite and considerate.
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Post by Zee on Apr 28, 2022 0:15:21 GMT
I get a pat down nearly every time I fly because I like to wear oversized hoodies. It's never been an issue, they are always polite and appropriate. Don't they just have you take it off and put it with your carry on on the belt? They always ask me to (though I'm already going to do that). I fly with hoodies too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2022 0:22:30 GMT
Have you ever had one? I did once. I just saw a video about a woman who was unnecessarily given a pat down by improperly trained TSA agents. Every time I hear this it takes me back to my experience, and I feel violated all over again. So have you had this done? Was it done properly? Were you touched in any way that was inappropriate? I'd like to know. I'll add a poll, as I expect most people haven't had a pat down. Ha! I can't tell you how many times I've been pulled off a line and/or just randomly the one to be patted down (in detail). I'd question it, but they'd insist that it's just a part of the post 9/11 pat-downs. Every time I was patted down, it felt to be VERY inappropriate to me. One time I complained (in a Canadian airport) and I was taken into a separate room that looked like a detective's room. I was asked MANY questions and I felt even more uncomfortable, and then my 1 (huge) piece of luggage was "lost". They brought it to me the following day. Again, I was uncomfortable and I complained. STRANGE.
Even if I don't get patted down, I'm normally the one that they "randomly" check while online. I've been checked via my fingertips (I suppose for drugs??) before. It's just so strange!!! Maybe it's because I wear sunglasses and/or my heavily tinted eyeglasses? I'm not sure........
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Post by maryannscraps on Apr 28, 2022 0:23:53 GMT
DH gets pulled aside all the time. He wears an AFO (ankle foot orthotic) and can’t walk without it. You’d think they’d be used to disabled people, but no. They give him grief all the time. I wish they would spend more time trying to recognize guns, which they have a very poor history with. It’s all theater.
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Post by zella on Apr 28, 2022 0:34:37 GMT
Have you ever had one? I did once. I just saw a video about a woman who was unnecessarily given a pat down by improperly trained TSA agents. Every time I hear this it takes me back to my experience, and I feel violated all over again. So have you had this done? Was it done properly? Were you touched in any way that was inappropriate? I'd like to know. I'll add a poll, as I expect most people haven't had a pat down. Ha! I can't tell you how many times I've been pulled off a line and/or just randomly the one to be patted down (in detail). I'd question it, but they'd insist that it's just a part of the post 9/11 pat-downs. Every time I was patted down, it felt to be VERY inappropriate to me. One time I complained (in a Canadian airport) and I was taken into a separate room that looked like a detective's room. I was asked MANY questions and I felt even more uncomfortable, and then my 1 (huge) piece of luggage was "lost". They brought it to me the following day. Again, I was uncomfortable and I complained. STRANGE.
Even if I don't get patted down, I'm normally the one that they "randomly" check while online. I've been checked via my fingertips (I suppose for drugs??) before. It's just so strange!!! Maybe it's because I wear sunglasses and/or my heavily tinted eyeglasses? I'm not sure........
That sucks. It really does. My hubby used to fly every 2 weeks and he got pulled out for special screening every single time. Not that they were racially profiling or anything (he looked more middle eastern then I thought). Yeah, right. I do know that if you have a one way ticket you will be given special TSA treatment. Look for the SSSS I think it is, on your ticket. Yuck, I hate flying.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2022 0:45:07 GMT
zella : I think my situation was due to my dark glasses. I'm not sure.... Even if I'm traveling with other people, I'm the only one that's pulled off of the line. Hmm....... Seems like your hubby is in my boat!
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Post by zella on Apr 28, 2022 0:47:05 GMT
The video did not look too bad to me. But, like I said, they check my underwire pretty regularly. Part of the deal, IMO. She was correct that they shouldn't be touching her port, certainly not putting pressure on it, same as I wouldn't want anyone messing with my PICC (long term access IV), even though it's covered with a dressing, as is a port, you can move it out of place it you aren't careful. As for the wig, her scalp could have been tender, she didn't want the wig to move (though she ended up removing it rather than risking the TSA agent moving it), and it is different when there's no or little hair for the wig to adhere to;it moves around far more easily than one attached to a full head of hair. I expect her breast might still have been tender from the lumpectomy too. None of this should have been necessary.
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 28, 2022 0:53:16 GMT
I used to fit a drug courier profile for various reasons and not only got the pat-downs every flight, but had the linings of my luggage pried open and searched.
I then went a lot of years getting manual searches most flights. The only time I didn’t was if I had a baby literally strapped to my person.
I’ve taken 50+ flights in the past year and have only been patted down once, and then, it was just my waist.
I find it uncomfortable (although not violative) every time.
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Post by ~KellyAnn~ on Apr 28, 2022 1:05:14 GMT
I always get the thorough pat down treatment. I'm fat, so I understand. They are very professional, but do have to feel every lump and bump that shows as suspicious.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Apr 28, 2022 1:24:45 GMT
Just once. They said their scanners indicated moisture. Yes, this is Las Vegas, it's 110 degrees, flying stresses me out, and my cab driver didn't believe in air conditioning, so yes, that might be some sweat on my back.
I was momentarily surprised only because I had no idea the machines detected that. Otherwise, it was the back of the hand patdown in line.
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me0605
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Post by me0605 on Apr 28, 2022 1:47:51 GMT
I get pulled out of the line almost every I fly- searched or scanned, or hands swabbed or carry on luggage searched. Doesn't matter what I am wearing or what airport (or country).
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Post by librarylady on Apr 28, 2022 2:53:01 GMT
An aside: I was ALWAYS pulled out of line for a more thorough search. Not a pat down, but scanned and documents inspected etc. A nephew who flies all the time, told me to to write to TSA (I think that is who I wrote to) and ask why I was examined so thoroughly on a particular flight. (I was on a connecting flight and had to produce the boarding pass for the previous flight. I had almost thrown it away--had trouble finding it and finally found it inside a magazine I was carrying). They were threatening me that I would not be allowed to fly home. Anyway, I never got an answer, but was given a redress number to use when I booked the flight. With that redress number, I have never been given extra screening again.
My advice: if you constantly get pulled aside, write and ask, and hopefully you can get it stopped. I decided my name looked like some guilty person's name.
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 28, 2022 12:25:01 GMT
I had one once. I don't remember why - I think something triggered on my lower back from the scanner. It was done just outside the scanner, in plain view of everyone, which was fine by me. I wasn't touched inappropriately. They were gentle (appropriately so, not creepily so) and said where they were going to touch me before they did. It all seemed on the up and up to me, and I was on my way shortly. They did give me the option to have it done privately but I didn't opt for that. I had the same experience shortly after 9/11. It was fine.
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smartypants71
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Post by smartypants71 on Apr 28, 2022 12:31:53 GMT
I get patted down almost every time bc of my insulin pump. I have TSA Pre so it's usually pretty quick though - just a quick pat and a residue check on my hands. Never had any issues.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Apr 28, 2022 12:44:52 GMT
I’ve had a quickie pat down once or twice for something simple and have had no problems. My husband gets the pat down every time because of an artificial hip. Even my very elderly mother has had full pat downs twice. Once she started taking her blouse off to the consternation of the agent. She said, “You can see it all. I don’t care.” And I’m still entertained by StephDRebel’s story!
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 28, 2022 12:48:59 GMT
Ha! I can't tell you how many times I've been pulled off a line and/or just randomly the one to be patted down (in detail). I'd question it, but they'd insist that it's just a part of the post 9/11 pat-downs. Every time I was patted down, it felt to be VERY inappropriate to me. One time I complained (in a Canadian airport) and I was taken into a separate room that looked like a detective's room. I was asked MANY questions and I felt even more uncomfortable, and then my 1 (huge) piece of luggage was "lost". They brought it to me the following day. Again, I was uncomfortable and I complained. STRANGE.
Even if I don't get patted down, I'm normally the one that they "randomly" check while online. I've been checked via my fingertips (I suppose for drugs??) before. It's just so strange!!! Maybe it's because I wear sunglasses and/or my heavily tinted eyeglasses? I'm not sure........
That sucks. It really does. My hubby used to fly every 2 weeks and he got pulled out for special screening every single time. Not that they were racially profiling or anything (he looked more middle eastern then I thought). Yeah, right. I do know that if you have a one way ticket you will be given special TSA treatment. Look for the SSSS I think it is, on your ticket. Yuck, I hate flying. The one way ticket really isn't much of a thing anymore. Now that one way tickets aren't more expensive, tons of people fly on them. In the old days, they were so ridiculously expensive, it was very suspicious if someone had one. My kids almost always fly with one way tickets as we're not sure what the end of the semester looks like when we book 5+ months out, and they have zero issues.
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