Just T
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,812
Jun 26, 2014 1:20:09 GMT
|
Post by Just T on May 11, 2022 15:10:52 GMT
This is a dumb post. LOL I have been watching lots of cooking shows lately, and this really irrationally annoys me. You know how we are always told not to scoop flour out of the container with the measuring cup, but instead, use a spoon to mound the flour into the cup, then use a straight edge to level it off? On almost every show I watch, they scoop the cup into the flour then haphazardly level it off with their finger. Why does this bother me so much? I don't know why, but it does. The other thing I noticed recently was someone who was making some edible cookie dough by just leaving out the eggs. No mention of baking the raw flour. Okay, stupid vent over!
|
|
|
Post by scrapmaven on May 11, 2022 15:13:23 GMT
I totally understand your vent. We should never have to say, "ew" when we're watching food shows.
|
|
|
Post by disneypal on May 11, 2022 15:16:54 GMT
Why does this bother me so much? I don't know why, but it does. It bothers you because that isn't how we were taught - I was taught the same as you. My mom and I often say what bothers us is all the hair hanging down. I was taught that when cooking, if you have really long hair, you should pull it back or use a headband - just so the hair doesn't accidentally get in the food or even worse, catch on fire.
|
|
|
Post by revirdsuba99 on May 11, 2022 15:20:06 GMT
Baking needs precise flour measured. Other things, not so much..
Hair is a major issue for me.
|
|
|
Post by crazy4scraps on May 11, 2022 15:20:17 GMT
I know what you mean Just T! I recently bought some recipes online where the ingredients are measured by cups and the recipe author notes that she indeed scoops and shakes to level the flour, sugar, etc. Okay great to know, but how am I supposed to judge exactly how much flour especially she is putting in the recipe if that’s how she measures? I have been baking more and more by weighing out my ingredients for better consistency so I know that if I scoop like that I could end up with multiple totally different weights per cup based on how compacted the flour is, how humid it is that day, the brand of flour used, etc. Makes me not even want to try the recipes I paid for because I’m not sure they will turn out.
|
|
|
Post by ceepea on May 11, 2022 15:23:43 GMT
That is how I was taught too. I always get angry because they use all of these ingredients and separate bowls and little knives and stuff, but never have to clean anything up. It's like yeah I could use 8 or 9 cute little bowls too if I didn't have to wash everything after I was done with all this cooking. Plus cleaning up the stove and countertops...Ugh, that just gets me.
|
|
|
Post by crimsoncat05 on May 11, 2022 15:28:23 GMT
yup- I get irritated by seeing all those things, too- especially hair hanging all over; chefs using their bare hands to touch the food and having judges taste it- then watching Restaurant Impossible where Robert Irvine gets mad at them for doing it; watching them SWEAT into the food while they're on cooking competition shows is a huge one for me!
|
|
|
Post by crazy4scraps on May 11, 2022 15:28:52 GMT
Why does this bother me so much? I don't know why, but it does. It bothers you because that isn't how we were taught - I was taught the same as you. My mom and I often say what bothers us is all the hair hanging down. I was taught that when cooking, if you have really long hair, you should pull it back or use a headband - just so the hair doesn't accidentally get in the food or even worse, catch on fire. OMG don’t even get me started on the hair! I took an online class with a Facebook Live component where the instructor did a live to show how to do every step of the recipe. She had long hair that she was constantly touching, pushing out of her eyes, touching her glasses and her face while she was also mixing up dough, forming cookies, etc… Oy. It was so completely distracting to watch that I could hardly pay attention to what she was supposedly teaching. I would never be able to eat anything that lady baked. I think in a situation like that where you know people are watching how you do things (and you have a job making food other people will eat), you would be ultra conscious of those things.
|
|
breetheflea
Drama Llama
Posts: 6,379
Location: PNW
Jul 20, 2014 21:57:23 GMT
|
Post by breetheflea on May 11, 2022 15:29:46 GMT
I scoop the flour with the measuring cup, dump it back into the container, and scoop from that pile... I never spoon the flour into the measuring cup because I'd probably get flour all over my kitchen...
I hate thinking about how much food a cooking show wastes. I really hate when the challenge on a show is to make a huge quantity in a certain time period. Who is going to eat 10 chicken pot pies, or 150 meatloafs...
I also hate when renovation shows destroy cabinets that could be reused, or smash things with a sledgehammer... I know I'm weird.
|
|
|
Post by scrapmaven on May 11, 2022 15:30:42 GMT
Weighing your ingredients is the most accurate way to bake. It's a science and has to be spot on.
|
|
scrappinwithoutpeas
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,998
Location: Northern Virginia
Aug 7, 2014 22:09:44 GMT
|
Post by scrappinwithoutpeas on May 11, 2022 15:46:51 GMT
Yeah, me too -- to all of the things already mentioned! And I'll add one more - they wipe their hands with like raw egg or something equally gross/lethal onto a clean dishtowel, then toss it back on the counter and use it again later. Ew!! breetheflea, I also hate that about home reno shows. I'm like " Noooooo, save the counters/cabinets/tile for re-use in another house!!" (Like Habitats for Humanity or similar...)
|
|
Just T
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,812
Jun 26, 2014 1:20:09 GMT
|
Post by Just T on May 11, 2022 16:09:01 GMT
HAHA Thanks for validating me everyone! The wiping dirty hands on a dry towel drives me bonkers, too. And the hair. And pretty much everything you all have mentioned. LOL
|
|
styxgirl
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,943
Jun 27, 2014 4:51:44 GMT
|
Post by styxgirl on May 11, 2022 16:39:56 GMT
YES! I can't watch cooking shows for all of the reasons above! LOL
Licking fingers, no gloves, hair hanging down, etc ... Pretty much all of the things that would freak you out if you saw it happen in a restaurant! LOL
|
|
|
Post by papersilly on May 11, 2022 16:43:11 GMT
i get what you're saying but i just keep in mind they are teaching me a process. i have no doubt the final product is not even the one they started measuring stuff with.
|
|
QueenoftheSloths
Drama Llama
Member Since January 2004, 2,698 forum posts PeaNut Number: 122614 PeaBoard Title: StuckOnPeas
Posts: 5,955
Jun 26, 2014 0:29:24 GMT
|
Post by QueenoftheSloths on May 11, 2022 16:47:08 GMT
I'm over the weird voice Pioneer Woman's daughter uses when she says 'yes ma'am' and 'oh my gorsh". Everything else she says normally, but those 2 phrases are always uttered in a way that I can only describe as weird.
|
|
|
Post by cmpeter on May 11, 2022 16:48:28 GMT
I was taught to scoop with the measuring up. At the time we did a few experiments and tried a number of different methods and weighed the results to see which was most accurate. Scooping with a half-cup measuring up and leveling off with a knife was the winner.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Oct 6, 2024 10:33:49 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 16:51:00 GMT
One of the reasons why I love to measure flour by weight! No more scooping like that and leveling with the back side of a knife.
I dont really have irritations about shows as I watch mainly for the recipe or new technique.
But it is so very interesting watching Julia Child cook and then watch someone from this time cook on a show. Julia is flinging a raw chicken around, touching the salt in a communal bowl, touching the pepper grinder with raw chicken juice hands, wiping her hands off on a towel she touches all the time, grabbing this and that.
Now a days? You wash between touches. Nothing gets contaminated. You dont wipe your chicken juice hands on a towel and then proceed to wipe your hands continually with same towel.
|
|
|
Post by workingclassdog on May 11, 2022 17:00:38 GMT
I never heard of that method.. I just scoop and level with a knife.. never had any problems. Ummmm.. but maybe my baking is yucky.. lol
Stuff like thing mentioned above don't bother me. I assume that most of that is tossed anyways..it's for TV...
|
|
dawnnikol
Prolific Pea
'A life without books is a life not lived.' Jay Kristoff
Posts: 8,426
Sept 21, 2015 18:39:25 GMT
|
Post by dawnnikol on May 11, 2022 17:07:58 GMT
But it is so very interesting watching Julia Child cook and then watch someone from this time cook on a show. Julia is flinging a raw chicken around, touching the salt in a communal bowl, touching the pepper grinder with raw chicken juice hands, wiping her hands off on a towel she touches all the time, grabbing this and that. Now a days? You wash between touches. Nothing gets contaminated. You dont wipe your chicken juice hands on a towel and then proceed to wipe your hands continually with same towel. We've just finished watching "Julia" on streaming and I cringe watching her cook. Then I'll watch the newer shows and they're doing the same thing. I realize they have to condense things, but GAH! Stop putting your hair and spit all over the food! Stop cross contaminating EVERYTHING. I admit to being a raw poultry freak - I go overboard when I handle it and make sure my kids do, too. I never want them to think it's okay to do that. Then my 60-something year old father will do like Julia and toss the chicken in the pot with his bare hands and wipe it on his pants or lick his fingers. And then I die in his kitchen.
|
|
|
Post by cakediva on May 11, 2022 17:08:34 GMT
Ok here's the thing about hair and cooking shows.... NONE of the food that they use for camera use is usually eaten by anybody. That one they take out of the oven? That's not the same one they mixed up and put in there. The behind the scenes staff do that. Sure - the star usually has a mouthful as they go, but they are the one making it so it's like the food safe rules don't apply. I would never work without my hair tied back and super clean/scrubbed hands. But when I did a photo shoot in my cake studio for some branding photos, I wanted to look good - so my hair was down and makeup on for all the photos. But I was using stuff already made for props. I'd never actually work like that
|
|
|
Post by lisacharlotte on May 11, 2022 17:14:49 GMT
Gloves are not any cleaner than washed hands. They both touch the same things.
|
|
|
Post by crimsoncat05 on May 11, 2022 17:17:28 GMT
NONE of the food that they use for camera use is usually eaten by anybody. That one they take out of the oven? That's not the same one they mixed up and put in there. The behind the scenes staff do that. Sure - the star usually has a mouthful as they go, but they are the one making it so it's like the food safe rules don't apply. oh, I get that, for cooking shows where they are demonstrating something- they already have the process worked out, they already have one finished in the oven to magically - voila! pull out to show you, etc. etc. And personally, watching Julia Child cook doesn't bother me- or a lot of those things, actually... *because* I know they're not actually serving it to anyone. I get it, though- they need to show 'best practices' to the viewer at home, who may never have taken health class or home ec class, or learned about germs, cross-contamination, etc. But my Dh and I, at least, watch a lot of competition shows where the judges will say, 'I can't taste that because you cut yourself and contaminated it.' But yet the person was also dripping sweat over the pot as they cooked, arranged the food on the plate with their bare hands, etc.. That is the kind of thing that irritates me.
|
|
|
Post by auntkelly on May 11, 2022 17:20:19 GMT
One of the many things I like about Ina Garten is that her kitchen always looks so clean. She has a glass full of tasting spoons nearby, and once she uses a tasting spoon, it is set aside and not used again.
On Top Chef, I've seen many of the chefs use a cooking utensil to taste something and then stick it right back in the food they are cooking. Some of the chefs have sweat dripping off their forehead into the food. Some of the chefs have cooked when they are sick. I'm sure all of these things and more happen in real restaurants, but I hate to see it on television.
|
|
Gem Girl
Pearl Clutcher
......
Posts: 2,682
Jun 29, 2014 19:29:52 GMT
|
Post by Gem Girl on May 11, 2022 17:30:18 GMT
That is how I was taught too. I always get angry because they use all of these ingredients and separate bowls and little knives and stuff, but never have to clean anything up. It's like yeah I could use 8 or 9 cute little bowls too if I didn't have to wash everything after I was done with all this cooking. Plus cleaning up the stove and countertops...Ugh, that just gets me. This is called mise in place, a French term that means to gather. Having all the ingredients measured & prepared allows for quick assembly while cooking. DH does this, & I swear he uses every dish in the house when he cooks; he's a strict measurer, can't improvise in the kitchen, and everything he makes besides Chinese food is something with loads of onions & peppers. To his credit, he does clean up after himself.
|
|
|
Post by bunnyhug on May 11, 2022 18:27:40 GMT
I have to say that I am the most un-scientific baker I know ... next to my 90+ year old mil, maybe ... I scoop from the flour bin (or any other dry ingredient container) and shake to 'level', I never measure vanilla or chocolate chips/raisins, I use the convection oven and never really adjust the temperature or time ... I don't always have a recipe, I either go from memory or kinda combine a few in my head ... and it all turns out great! I also totally eat raw cookie dough--I figure we all have to die from something, and chocolate chip cookie dough doesn't seem like a bad way to go! I also ignore all sorts of instructions (like combining wet and dry ingredients in separate bowls) because I hate washing more than one mixing bowl! I would be a terrible cooking show host or contestant
|
|
oh yvonne
Prolific Pea
Posts: 8,062
Jun 26, 2014 0:45:23 GMT
|
Post by oh yvonne on May 11, 2022 18:43:45 GMT
okay all of the above plus, it absolutely bugs me that no one seems capable of using a spatula to get out all of the ingredients out of a bowl! They will leave like a whole cupful behind and its so distracting to me! Grab the spatula and scrape it ALL out of the bowl!
That, and the other thing I can't stand to see is people using their silverware to cook/stir with. I mean I get using a fork to whip a couple of eggs, but why are you cooking with the fork or stirring the pot with a teaspoon? IDK I don't like to scratch my pans and silverware gets hot in your hand. I have a whole crock full of spatulas, wooden spoons etc for actual cooking. IDK why it bugs me so much but it does.
|
|
Just T
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,812
Jun 26, 2014 1:20:09 GMT
|
Post by Just T on May 11, 2022 18:47:54 GMT
NONE of the food that they use for camera use is usually eaten by anybody. That one they take out of the oven? That's not the same one they mixed up and put in there. The behind the scenes staff do that. Sure - the star usually has a mouthful as they go, but they are the one making it so it's like the food safe rules don't apply. Yeah, I get that, too. I know the ones that actually get eaten were already prepared ahead of time. Except the contests. I am a pretty decent cook, but someone who is trying to learn how to cook or cook better, isn't really getting proper lessons from these shows. I still watch them. LOL
|
|
|
Post by maryland on May 11, 2022 20:29:16 GMT
I don't watch cooking shows unless it's a cooking segement on Today show. But what drives me crazy is the online pintrest recipes. They post 20 pictures of the recipe and many are just the same picture with a different angle. I love the ones that post a jump to recipe. I hate scrolling through so many pictures. They are great recipes and I make many of them. I just don't understand the need for 25 pictures of a piece of chicken.
|
|
|
Post by hop2 on May 11, 2022 20:35:11 GMT
I’m a scooper but NOT a finger leveler. I level with the edge in my container made for that or I used to use a straight spatula. A finger isn’t even level !
Now when everything is done and in pans I do use my finger to steal residue from the bowl
|
|
Sue
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,240
Location: SE of Portland, Oregon
Jun 26, 2014 18:42:33 GMT
|
Post by Sue on May 11, 2022 20:40:04 GMT
It drives me nuts watching many of them when they pour a completed mixture into a baking/cooking pan and leave a lot of the mixture in the bowl without using a rubber spatula to get all of it out and into the pan. I know they're probably just saving time when making the video but it still really bothers me.
|
|