casii
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Post by casii on Jun 13, 2022 20:32:32 GMT
My friend who spent a month in Europe eating all the food including the breads and pastas came home 8 lbs lighter. She has a leg brace on due to recent knee surgery so she wasn't walking everywhere which otherwise might explain a small drop in weight.
So now we want to know the secret because trying to fly home suitcases full of flour wasn't an option.
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Post by lesley on Jun 13, 2022 20:36:53 GMT
Whereabouts in Europe was she? I love bread made with French flour, which is different from what we tend to use in the UK. And Germany uses a lot of rye flour which is totally different again.
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Post by katlady on Jun 13, 2022 20:39:43 GMT
American bread has a lot of sugar in it! Her weight loss could be also due to the lower sugar, not just the flour.
ETA - You can find French flour on Amazon. Probably at shops like Whole Foods, or gourmet grocery shops too.
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Post by casii on Jun 13, 2022 20:40:03 GMT
Whereabouts in Europe was she? I love bread made with French flour, which is different from what we tend to use in the UK. And Germany uses a lot of rye flour which is totally different again. She was in France, Germany, Austria and Italy. A long work trip to launch a program and she'll have to go back once in a while. If you could see how green with envy I am, you'd laugh.
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Post by StephDRebel on Jun 13, 2022 20:42:50 GMT
It's also amazing for people with gluten sensitivities and intolerance. I would try an international grocer, I used to go to Jungle Jims in Cincinnati. It blew my mind when I could eat all the bread in Europe and I didn't have to run for the bathroom once. (thankfully, they were dirty! ha)
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Post by casii on Jun 13, 2022 20:46:18 GMT
It's also amazing for people with gluten sensitivities and intolerance. I would try an international grocer, I used to go to Jungle Jims in Cincinnati. It blew my mind when I could eat all the bread in Europe and I didn't have to run for the bathroom once. (thankfully, they were dirty! ha) I've heard the same thing from people with gluten sensitivities. My friend Melissa had no problems eating everything over there.
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Post by casii on Jun 13, 2022 20:47:34 GMT
American bread has a lot of sugar in it! Her weight loss could be also due to the lower sugar, not just the flour. ETA - You can find French flour on Amazon. Probably at shops like Whole Foods, or gourmet grocery shops too. Next time I'm in a Whole Foods area, I'll check it out. My area is populated with crunchy granola mom & pops but no gourmet ones. LOL
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 13, 2022 20:52:49 GMT
You can get several on amazon in addition to Whole Foods. My kroger also sells a few including Hungarian which I thought was kind of wild.
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Post by maryland on Jun 13, 2022 21:09:26 GMT
I would probably lose weight in Europe because I have been stress eating with all the American news! If only I wasn't terrified of flying.
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Post by Gennifer on Jun 13, 2022 21:11:59 GMT
What about kamut flour?
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 13, 2022 21:16:41 GMT
It's also amazing for people with gluten sensitivities and intolerance. The reason for that is the majority of American wheat grown is hard red wheat, which is high in protein and thus gluten. In Europe, the majority of wheat grown in Europe is soft wheat, which is lower in gluten. casii - Check out Einkorn flour by Jovial Foods. It's an ancient grain flour grown in Italy and I've had very good luck baking with it. DD is gluten sensitive and is able to eat it with no issues. They also have other products as well on their website - Jovial Foods. This blog post really helps to explain European flours for the American baker - Christina's Bread Bakes. It is aimed at Americans living in Europe but very good information if you want to know what you should try to order.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Jun 13, 2022 22:06:06 GMT
BIL used to buy Italian 00 flour from Eataly because niece was allergic to (American) wheat. She had no issues with Italian flour.
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Post by casii on Jun 14, 2022 1:40:38 GMT
It's also amazing for people with gluten sensitivities and intolerance. The reason for that is the majority of American wheat grown is hard red wheat, which is high in protein and thus gluten. In Europe, the majority of wheat grown in Europe is soft wheat, which is lower in gluten. casii - Check out Einkorn flour by Jovial Foods. It's an ancient grain flour grown in Italy and I've had very good luck baking with it. DD is gluten sensitive and is able to eat it with no issues. They also have other products as well on their website - Jovial Foods. This blog post really helps to explain European flours for the American baker - Christina's Bread Bakes. It is aimed at Americans living in Europe but very good information if you want to know what you should try to order. Great website! Thanks for the link.
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Post by busy on Jun 14, 2022 2:08:09 GMT
It's also amazing for people with gluten sensitivities and intolerance. The reason for that is the majority of American wheat grown is hard red wheat, which is high in protein and thus gluten. In Europe, the majority of wheat grown in Europe is soft wheat, which is lower in gluten. casii - Check out Einkorn flour by Jovial Foods. It's an ancient grain flour grown in Italy and I've had very good luck baking with it. DD is gluten sensitive and is able to eat it with no issues. They also have other products as well on their website - Jovial Foods. This blog post really helps to explain European flours for the American baker - Christina's Bread Bakes. It is aimed at Americans living in Europe but very good information if you want to know what you should try to order. Lots of people with gluten sensitivities do well with einkorn, but it is still a wheat, so just be aware. I personally can't tolerate it. I love Jovial, though! Both their gluten-free and grain-free pastas are very good, and I usually don't like either.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 14, 2022 15:13:31 GMT
Yes, European flours are different from US flours. We’ve altered ours to be different and they are not great for nutrients anymore.
Yes, a US gluten intolerance person MIGHT be able to eat European flours BUT there is still gluten so that would not apply to people with celiac disease. Proceed with caution as it could still be a problem.
You can try at supermarketitaly dot com they have several brands
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Post by pyccku on Jun 14, 2022 19:15:33 GMT
Do you have an Asian market near you? Oddly enough, our local Lee-lees has a ton of stuff from Eastern Europe, including many types of different flours.
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Post by carhoch on Jun 15, 2022 4:29:51 GMT
My friend who spent a month in Europe eating all the food including the breads and pastas came home 8 lbs lighter. She has a leg brace on due to recent knee surgery so she wasn't walking everywhere which otherwise might explain a small drop in weight. So now we want to know the secret because trying to fly home suitcases full of flour wasn't an option. The portion of food you get in Europe are smaller and they don’t fry everything.
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Post by rainangel on Jun 15, 2022 5:39:22 GMT
I'm not sure why you think the flour is the reason she has lost weight. I would wager it's a combination of less sugar in general in our processed food (still too much though), portion sizes, less frying, and traditional use of olive oil and vegetables that is still prevalent in restaurants (not sure how that is is the US, but vegetables and olive oil are very important in large parts of the European kitchen). But good for her! I'm overweight because I snakc too much Not because of my general diet.
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Post by maryannscraps on Jun 15, 2022 11:44:28 GMT
I doubt her weight loss had anything to do with gluten or flour. She ate fewer calories. Probably more vegetables, less meat, less fried food, and smaller portions. She probably kept very busy and snacked less.
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Post by slowrunner70 on Jun 15, 2022 12:10:58 GMT
I used to buy first clear flour from Amazon, but I can't find it anymore. Even when I go through my old orders and click on "order it again", it brings me to an error page. If you can find first clear flour or high gluten flour, it is the closest that I could find to the flour I know from Germany. King Arthur sells some specialty flour, as well. I use bread flour now, with some rye or whole wheat flour mixed it for baking bread.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 15, 2022 13:11:37 GMT
I doubt her weight loss had anything to do with gluten or flour. She ate fewer calories. Probably more vegetables, less meat, less fried food, and smaller portions. She probably kept very busy and snacked less. Agreed. Also, the portions are notably smaller in Europe than what is served here in the US. That alone will help you drop a little weight I've found.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jun 15, 2022 14:12:32 GMT
My guess is she was simply eating less than usual especially if she wasn't snacking between meals.
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Post by casii on Jun 15, 2022 15:10:05 GMT
My guess is she was simply eating less than usual especially if she wasn't snacking between meals. She's a snacker, especially as evidenced by her Instagram account. I couldn't even look after a while, I was so jealous. The gelato photos were just mean. She may have been eating less but she's the one who raved about how she ate ALL the bread (her emphasis) and ALL the pastas, so she & I were wondering whether there's truly a difference as we've heard some people say. Regardless, I'm ready to move. Good food without suffering? I'll take it!
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 15, 2022 15:19:53 GMT
American bread has a lot of sugar in it! Her weight loss could be also due to the lower sugar, not just the flour. The portion of food you get in Europe are smaller and they don’t fry everything. FWIW, I find European breads & pasta don't trigger an inflammation response the way American products do, which for some includes weight gain. If your friend deals with any chronic illness, removing the high gluten/high sugar versions of breads/pasta from her diet for a month could result in weight loss. But I also think the smaller portions, limited fried (inflammatory) foods and nonsnacking culture are also likely factors.
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