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Post by pixiechick on Jul 15, 2022 2:57:37 GMT
She's right that you defend the indefensible. No, she's not right and neither are you. You're both being dishonest as hell. You defended the police who arrested a 13 year old pro abortion protestor. No I didn't. What I said: "I'm pro-choice. I'm for peacefully protesting. If this girl is being arrested for peacefully, lawfully protesting and not something else, I'll stand right beside you in demanding justice for her. With the beginning of the incident not included in the video, we don't know if the police tried resolving it peacefully, or not. As in, I'd like to see what actually happened and decide for myself as opposed to taking the police or the protester's word for it. That's not controversial." THOSE are my words that you claim are defending the police.
YOU'RE EITHER UNBELIEVABLY STUPID OR YOU ARE A LIAR.
If you have to rely on your dishonest summation of my words instead of my actual words, YOU are the problem.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 5:11:52 GMT
This Rochester NYPD should be fired. There absolutely no justification for what he did. None.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 5:15:17 GMT
This lawyer is an absolute asshole…
the 10 yr old Ohio girl “would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child,”said National Right to Life Coalition top lawyer”
I read comments that I bolded and I get really angry.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 5:21:20 GMT
Well actually the progressive like AOC whined that President Biden needed TO DO SOMETHING but offered no solutions on what to do with Manchin & Sinema. And since we are not Russia that leaves out the solution of tossing them into the clink and make up charges to keep them there for years.
But this response got it right…
All dots when connected lead back to the voters and what they did or didn’t do.
There was a very capable woman running against Susan “I’m concerned” Collins yet they re-elected a weak useless individual. Just like Texas blew it with Beto & Cruz.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 15, 2022 5:52:27 GMT
The Maine election was complicated and came down to a lot of things. As an outsider, it’s easy to say voters made the wrong choice. And given the recent overturning of Roe v Wade, it’s easy to be angry with Collins for votes for Trump’s nominees. In the end, Susan Collins has deep roots in Maine, going back generations. In comparison, Sarah Gideon, her opponent, only lived there for 15 years. And Gideon might not have been the best candidate, she might have been too liberal or progressive for Maine. Susan Collins ran on her record of money for the state. Maine voters by a fairly significant margin decided she was the best candidate for Maine. www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/12/22/the-political-survival-of-susan-collins/ If Gideon had been elected, she would have been the most liberal politician to win a statewide election in Maine since George Mitchell in 1988.19thnews.org/2020/12/susan-collins-senate-race-2020-defied-the-odds/Maine’s Senate race has become a cautionary tale for Democrats about the limitations of polling, money and out-of-state influence.
I live about 20 minutes from the Maine border, my oldest is in college there. NH and Maine have a lot in common, both states are more conservative than the rest of the Northeast. I get it. It’s easy to look at Maine or Texas and say voters made the wrong choice. Ted Cruz is on my top 10 most hated list and Beto is one of my favorites. But, I am an outsider and I don’t get to vote in either one of those races. |
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Post by pinklady on Jul 15, 2022 14:39:31 GMT
Ladies, please, I'm begging you...just STOP interacting with the troll. It will NEVER go anywhere. There is nothing good that will come of trying to engage with her. Maybe just maybe if you stop she'll go away once and for all.  |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 15, 2022 15:00:51 GMT
Ladies, please, I'm begging you...just STOP interacting with the troll. It will NEVER go anywhere. There is nothing good that will come of trying to engage with her. Maybe just maybe if you stop she'll go away once and for all. You're right. Thank you for the reminder. I just thought dizzycheerrmom had a good question asking why she defends the indefensible. But clearly that conversation went nowhere and fell on deaf ears. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2022 15:14:12 GMT
Block has made my life easier ...
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Post by dizzycheermom on Jul 15, 2022 16:01:11 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 16:55:01 GMT
“free will
the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.”
You work so hard making excuses for how voters vote when in fact they chose to vote a certain way. No one is forcing them to vote a certain way, they chose to vote the way they do. It’s called free will. Or to put it another way, as a Democratic who swore they would never ever vote for a Republican candidate again, I could wake up the morning of the next election and decide to vote for the Republican candidate. My choice.
And right now this country is in crisis because of the choices voters have made. But instead of taking any responsibility for their part in this crisis facing the country they blame everybody else.
A perfect example of the bad choices I’m talking about. Why was Herschel Walker chosen the Republican nominee for the Senate?
Did they vote for him because he showed he was qualified and has the ability to be a good senator for the state of Georgia?
Or did they vote for him because of his career as professional football player and that has won the Heisman Trophy among other awards?
Have you listen to him try and explain something? Sadly I think that he took to many hits while playing football and it’s resulted in some brain damage. Something more then a few ex football players are suffering from.
And then there is Jim Jordan. Once that story came out how he knew about the boys being sexually assaulted and said nothing he should have been voted out of office. But yet here he is. Fast forward to the elections this year, now the voters are looking at a candidate who not only didn’t say anything about those kids being sexually assaulted, he is pushing the “Big Lie” and was involved in the events of 1/6/2021. And I would be really really surprised if he is not re-elected. That man has no business being in Congress
CA voters, including me, made a mistake in re-electing Diane Feinstein in 2018. Not because she wasn’t a good senator for CA but because of her age. Now we have reached the point that I hope she decides to step down in the next couple of months and let Gavin Newsom appoint someone to complete her term until 2024.
Yes voter suppression is a problem. The question is how much if any affect does it have on elections. I don’t think anyone knows for sure yet.
But the bigger problem, IMO, is voter apathy. In CA, one state that makes it easy for voters to vote, only 69% of eligible voters decided to show up and vote in 2020. It certainly wasn’t voter suppression that stopped them from voting.
The reason for voter apathy? Laziness, unrealistic expectations for the candidates, the idea their vote doesn’t count so why bother, not comprehending elections do have consequences. Again, it’s a choice made by the individual not to participate.
So when it comes to the voters and their roll in the mess this country is in we are going to agree to disagree.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 17:08:41 GMT
So this fool is saying members of the gay community will/could decide to come out against abortion to force women to have babies they can then adopt as way for them to have families. 🤦🏻♀️
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 17:25:42 GMT
They do understand that guns were invented for one thing and one thing only and that is to kill don’t they?
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 15, 2022 19:17:21 GMT
They do understand that guns were invented for one thing and one thing only and that is to kill don’t they? this is the political party of 'ketchup is a vegetable' after all... |
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 19:24:01 GMT
You have got to be kidding me!!!
The majority of responses pointed out in the age of COVID the “fist bump” is the sensible thing to do rather then the traditional handshake as a form of greeting.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 15, 2022 21:09:29 GMT
“ free will
the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.”
You work so hard making excuses for how voters vote when in fact they chose to vote a certain way. No one is forcing them to vote a certain way, they chose to vote the way they do. It’s called free will. Or to put it another way, as a Democratic who swore they would never ever vote for a Republican candidate again, I could wake up the morning of the next election and decide to vote for the Republican candidate. My choice. And right now this country is in crisis because of the choices voters have made. But instead of taking any responsibility for their part in this crisis facing the country they blame everybody else. A perfect example of the bad choices I’m talking about. Why was Herschel Walker chosen the Republican nominee for the Senate? Did they vote for him because he showed he was qualified and has the ability to be a good senator for the state of Georgia? Or did they vote for him because of his career as professional football player and that has won the Heisman Trophy among other awards? Have you listen to him try and explain something? Sadly I think that he took to many hits while playing football and it’s resulted in some brain damage. Something more then a few ex football players are suffering from. And then there is Jim Jordan. Once that story came out how he knew about the boys being sexually assaulted and said nothing he should have been voted out of office. But yet here he is. Fast forward to the elections this year, now the voters are looking at a candidate who not only didn’t say anything about those kids being sexually assaulted, he is pushing the “Big Lie” and was involved in the events of 1/6/2021. And I would be really really surprised if he is not re-elected. That man has no business being in Congress CA voters, including me, made a mistake in re-electing Diane Feinstein in 2018. Not because she wasn’t a good senator for CA but because of her age. Now we have reached the point that I hope she decides to step down in the next couple of months and let Gavin Newsom appoint someone to complete her term until 2024. Yes voter suppression is a problem. The question is how much if any affect does it have on elections. I don’t think anyone knows for sure yet. But the bigger problem, IMO, is voter apathy. In CA, one state that makes it easy for voters to vote, only 69% of eligible voters decided to show up and vote in 2020. It certainly wasn’t voter suppression that stopped them from voting. The reason for voter apathy? Laziness, unrealistic expectations for the candidates, the idea their vote doesn’t count so why bother, not comprehending elections do have consequences. Again, it’s a choice made by the individual not to participate. So when it comes to the voters and their roll in the mess this country is in we are going to agree to disagree. I’m not making excuses for voters. Just saying that a vote is more complicated than will this Senator give Democrats the majority? I don’t think anyone could have predicted in Nov 2020 exactly how obstructionist Manchin and Sinema would be. I think if you asked voters about their priorities in 2020, giving Democrats the majority was pretty low on the list. I’m not going to judge people from Maine for voting for Susan Collins. She wouldn’t be my pick, but I don’t live there and don’t pretend to know the issues the voters are facing or all of the details/ background on Susan Collins and her opponent. You claimed she was a perfectly good candidate and I tried to explain why she may not have been the best choice for Maine.. Also, I think it’s unfair to compare Susan Collins to Hershel Walker or Jim Jordan. They are the worst of the worst. Walker regrettably can't string 2 intelligent sentences together and is clearly in over his head. And Jim Jordan is just a terrible person. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2022 21:22:56 GMT
More GOP election/ballot petition FRAUD for Gov of NY state. Former's big lie supporter Lee Zelden won't make the ballot in NY The Republican nominee to be New York's governor has been accused of election fraud, threatening his chances of having his name under the Independence Party on the November ballot, Newsweek reports. *** But according to Newsweek, nearly 13,000 signatures on petitions for Zeldin to appear on the Independence Party line on the ballot have been invalidated by the New York State Board of Elections after the New York Libertarian Party's secretary, Andrew Kolstee, alleged that around 11,000 of Zeldin's signatures were copies of other pages. www.rawstory.com/lee-zeldin/ |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2022 21:28:34 GMT
Pine Bluff, Arkansas.. eight year old fatally shot by younger brother. Mother napping.. youtu.be/O2D_3B6mQ84 |
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 23:12:56 GMT
“ free will
the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.”
You work so hard making excuses for how voters vote when in fact they chose to vote a certain way. No one is forcing them to vote a certain way, they chose to vote the way they do. It’s called free will. Or to put it another way, as a Democratic who swore they would never ever vote for a Republican candidate again, I could wake up the morning of the next election and decide to vote for the Republican candidate. My choice. And right now this country is in crisis because of the choices voters have made. But instead of taking any responsibility for their part in this crisis facing the country they blame everybody else. A perfect example of the bad choices I’m talking about. Why was Herschel Walker chosen the Republican nominee for the Senate? Did they vote for him because he showed he was qualified and has the ability to be a good senator for the state of Georgia? Or did they vote for him because of his career as professional football player and that has won the Heisman Trophy among other awards? Have you listen to him try and explain something? Sadly I think that he took to many hits while playing football and it’s resulted in some brain damage. Something more then a few ex football players are suffering from. And then there is Jim Jordan. Once that story came out how he knew about the boys being sexually assaulted and said nothing he should have been voted out of office. But yet here he is. Fast forward to the elections this year, now the voters are looking at a candidate who not only didn’t say anything about those kids being sexually assaulted, he is pushing the “Big Lie” and was involved in the events of 1/6/2021. And I would be really really surprised if he is not re-elected. That man has no business being in Congress CA voters, including me, made a mistake in re-electing Diane Feinstein in 2018. Not because she wasn’t a good senator for CA but because of her age. Now we have reached the point that I hope she decides to step down in the next couple of months and let Gavin Newsom appoint someone to complete her term until 2024. Yes voter suppression is a problem. The question is how much if any affect does it have on elections. I don’t think anyone knows for sure yet. But the bigger problem, IMO, is voter apathy. In CA, one state that makes it easy for voters to vote, only 69% of eligible voters decided to show up and vote in 2020. It certainly wasn’t voter suppression that stopped them from voting. The reason for voter apathy? Laziness, unrealistic expectations for the candidates, the idea their vote doesn’t count so why bother, not comprehending elections do have consequences. Again, it’s a choice made by the individual not to participate. So when it comes to the voters and their roll in the mess this country is in we are going to agree to disagree. I’m not making excuses for voters. Just saying that a vote is more complicated than will this Senator give Democrats the majority? I don’t think anyone could have predicted in Nov 2020 exactly how obstructionist Manchin and Sinema would be. I think if you asked voters about their priorities in 2020, giving Democrats the majority was pretty low on the list. I’m not going to judge people from Maine for voting for Susan Collins. She wouldn’t be my pick, but I don’t live there and don’t pretend to know the issues the voters are facing or all of the details/ background on Susan Collins and her opponent. You claimed she was a perfectly good candidate and I tried to explain why she may not have been the best choice for Maine.. Also, I think it’s unfair to compare Susan Collins to Hershel Walker or Jim Jordan. Walker regrettably can't string 2 intelligent sentences together and is clearly in over his head. And Jim Jordan is just a terrible person. Congratulations you just went a long way in proving my point about voters with this one comment “I think if you asked voters about their priorities in 2020, giving Democrats the majority was pretty low on the list.”
If the goal was to elect a Democratic President, why in heavens name wouldn’t these voters vote to give him a solid majority in the House and Senate so he could accomplish something? Or don’t these voters understand how government works? Or do these voters want to keep a status quo of nothing getting done that could actually benefit all Americans? And then there is this comment “ I don’t think anyone could have predicted in Nov 2020 exactly how obstructionist Manchin and Sinema would be.” To me that implies a bunch of voters in various states got together and decided to only elect enough Democratic Senators to give Democrats the slimmest majority possible. Which reminds me of a rant AOC went on a few weeks ago. After rambling on for awhile she demanded that two Democratic Senators be elected. She didn’t specify which two States had to cough up these two Senators but it had to be two. Gosh if only it was that simple. “I’m putting in an order for two Democratic Senators”. And this mysterious being says “Sure two random Democratic Senators coming right up”. The voters of today have to vote like their lives depends on it because they do thanks in large part to the three Supreme Court decisions involving guns, abortions and the environment. And based on some of the primary results they are falling short. Where specifically did I compare Susan Collins to either Walker or Jordan? You do understand that one can criticize folks without putting them in the same category of criticism? Right? Once again we are going to disagree. I’m basing my opinion on what has happened in the past and what I’m observing across the country from my lofty perch in Sonoma County. Maybe my opinion will change if enough people vote for Democrats and keep the Republicans from not only not getting the majority in the House & Senate but increase the the Democratic majority in both chambers. Oh and if Texas elects Beto as their governor. It can be done, but will it? |
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 23:40:10 GMT
When zingermack use to hang out on the board she talked a lot about money in politics.
Here is a perfect example of money in politics. All along Manchin was against two things in President Biden’s Build Back Better bill. Climate change and increasing taxes on the rich. All the time he was “negotiating in good faith” he was receiving donations from wealthy Republican gas and oil donors. Looks like they got their money’s worth.
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 23:42:22 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 23:46:35 GMT
Someone mentioned that Garland may not want to be the first Attorney General to indict an ex president. If that’s the case he needs to get passed that. If he has a case against trump he needs to pursue it. Either we are a country of laws or we aren’t.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 15, 2022 23:54:41 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Jul 15, 2022 23:57:59 GMT
This is not helpful. Does Schumer & Pelosi even have the power/ability to do something like is being demanded by AOC and her group? From The Hill. link” Ocasio-Cortez, progressives call on Schumer, Pelosi to strip SCOTUS of abortion jurisdiction”
“A group of House progressives led by Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Mondaire Jones (D-N.Y.) called on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) to strip the Supreme Court of its abortion jurisdiction. “We write to urge your support for restricting the Supreme Court’s appellate jurisdiction in the areas of abortion, marriage equality, non-procreative intimacy, and contraception,” the lawmakers wrote in a letter to the congressional leaders In doing so, we can ensure that, as Congress takes legislative action to codify each of these fundamental rights, a radical, restless, and newly constituted majority on the Court cannot further undermine the protections we would enact.” The progressives pointed to Justice Clarence Thomas’s concurring opinion in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision, in which he suggested that that several other cases, which established the constitutional rights to contraception access, same sex marriage and states not being able to ban consensual gay sex, should be revisited. “The House of Representatives already passed the Women’s Health Protection Act (“WHPA”) last fall to codify the constitutional right to abortion, and if this bill becomes law, we can expect that legal challenges will eventually come before the Supreme Court again. Once more, the constitutional right to abortion would be put at risk,” they said. “We are concerned by the Court’s dismantling of other statutes duly enacted by Congress, including the Voting Rights Act and the Clean Air Act.” “As we Democrats plan for further legislative action to protect and enshrine abortion rights, as well as the three other fundamental rights called into question in Justice Thomas’ concurring opinion in Dobbs, we urge the exercise of Congress’ constitutional powers under Article III to include language that removes the Supreme Court’s appellate jurisdiction over such legislation,” they added later. Other lawmakers who signed onto the letter include Democratic Reps. Bonnie Watson Coleman (N.J.), Marie Newman (Ill.), Rashida Tlaib (Mich.), Jamaal Bowman (N.Y.), Ilhan Omar (Minn.), Mark Takano (Calif.), Kaiali’i Kahele (Hawaii) and Cori Bush (Mo.). Last month, the Supreme Court overturned the 1973 landmark decision of Roe v. Wade, which determined the right to abortion was constitutional. At least nine states have now banned abortion, and other restrictions and bans in other states are expected. Ocasio-Cortez said that the high court had “gone rogue,” adding that she believes that impeachment should be “on the table.” Multiple Democrats have also argued that some of the current Supreme Court justices were not forthcoming about their stances on Roe v. Wade during their Senate confirmation hearings. I believe impeachment should be on the table. I believe court expansion should be on the table. I believe that ethics rules should be on the table. I believe that recusal requirements should be on the table,” Ocasio-Cortez told reporters on Tuesday. “I think all of it should be considered right now. And we shouldn’t be putting any tools out because of … the degree of which this court has gone rogue.” |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 16, 2022 0:12:00 GMT
I would like to see Thomas impeached! Not sure how many Senate votes are needed.
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 16, 2022 0:14:41 GMT
This is not helpful. Does Schumer & Pelosi even have the power/ability to do something like is being demanded by AOC and her group? From The Hill. link” Ocasio-Cortez, progressives call on Schumer, Pelosi to strip SCOTUS of abortion jurisdiction”
“A group of House progressives led by Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Mondaire Jones (D-N.Y.) called on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) to strip the Supreme Court of its abortion jurisdiction. “We write to urge your support for restricting the Supreme Court’s appellate jurisdiction in the areas of abortion, marriage equality, non-procreative intimacy, and contraception,” the lawmakers wrote in a letter to the congressional leaders In doing so, we can ensure that, as Congress takes legislative action to codify each of these fundamental rights, a radical, restless, and newly constituted majority on the Court cannot further undermine the protections we would enact.” The progressives pointed to Justice Clarence Thomas’s concurring opinion in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision, in which he suggested that that several other cases, which established the constitutional rights to contraception access, same sex marriage and states not being able to ban consensual gay sex, should be revisited. “The House of Representatives already passed the Women’s Health Protection Act (“WHPA”) last fall to codify the constitutional right to abortion, and if this bill becomes law, we can expect that legal challenges will eventually come before the Supreme Court again. Once more, the constitutional right to abortion would be put at risk,” they said. “We are concerned by the Court’s dismantling of other statutes duly enacted by Congress, including the Voting Rights Act and the Clean Air Act.” “As we Democrats plan for further legislative action to protect and enshrine abortion rights, as well as the three other fundamental rights called into question in Justice Thomas’ concurring opinion in Dobbs, we urge the exercise of Congress’ constitutional powers under Article III to include language that removes the Supreme Court’s appellate jurisdiction over such legislation,” they added later. Other lawmakers who signed onto the letter include Democratic Reps. Bonnie Watson Coleman (N.J.), Marie Newman (Ill.), Rashida Tlaib (Mich.), Jamaal Bowman (N.Y.), Ilhan Omar (Minn.), Mark Takano (Calif.), Kaiali’i Kahele (Hawaii) and Cori Bush (Mo.). Last month, the Supreme Court overturned the 1973 landmark decision of Roe v. Wade, which determined the right to abortion was constitutional. At least nine states have now banned abortion, and other restrictions and bans in other states are expected. Ocasio-Cortez said that the high court had “gone rogue,” adding that she believes that impeachment should be “on the table.” Multiple Democrats have also argued that some of the current Supreme Court justices were not forthcoming about their stances on Roe v. Wade during their Senate confirmation hearings. I believe impeachment should be on the table. I believe court expansion should be on the table. I believe that ethics rules should be on the table. I believe that recusal requirements should be on the table,” Ocasio-Cortez told reporters on Tuesday. “I think all of it should be considered right now. And we shouldn’t be putting any tools out because of … the degree of which this court has gone rogue.” Do Schumer and Pelosi have this power? Yes. Congress can do it because of the Exceptions Clause of the Constitution. Will they? Have no clue. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 16, 2022 1:05:12 GMT
Re: Manchin I’m not a fan, his obstruction is infuriating. And he is a perfect example of why we need finance reform. However, Brooks pointed out that a year ago, Manchin warned about inflation. The economists and experts all thought it was temporary. Manchin turned out to be right. And perhaps an infusion of $3 billion dollars could have made inflation worse. www.pbs.org/newshour/ |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 16, 2022 1:08:06 GMT
I’m not making excuses for voters. Just saying that a vote is more complicated than will this Senator give Democrats the majority? I don’t think anyone could have predicted in Nov 2020 exactly how obstructionist Manchin and Sinema would be. I think if you asked voters about their priorities in 2020, giving Democrats the majority was pretty low on the list. I’m not going to judge people from Maine for voting for Susan Collins. She wouldn’t be my pick, but I don’t live there and don’t pretend to know the issues the voters are facing or all of the details/ background on Susan Collins and her opponent. You claimed she was a perfectly good candidate and I tried to explain why she may not have been the best choice for Maine.. Also, I think it’s unfair to compare Susan Collins to Hershel Walker or Jim Jordan. Walker regrettably can't string 2 intelligent sentences together and is clearly in over his head. And Jim Jordan is just a terrible person. Congratulations you just went a long way in proving my point about voters with this one comment “I think if you asked voters about their priorities in 2020, giving Democrats the majority was pretty low on the list.”
If the goal was to elect a Democratic President, why in heavens name wouldn’t these voters vote to give him a solid majority in the House and Senate so he could accomplish something? Or don’t these voters understand how government works? Or do these voters want to keep a status quo of nothing getting done that could actually benefit all Americans? And then there is this comment “ I don’t think anyone could have predicted in Nov 2020 exactly how obstructionist Manchin and Sinema would be.” To me that implies a bunch of voters in various states got together and decided to only elect enough Democratic Senators to give Democrats the slimmest majority possible. Which reminds me of a rant AOC went on a few weeks ago. After rambling on for awhile she demanded that two Democratic Senators be elected. She didn’t specify which two States had to cough up these two Senators but it had to be two. Gosh if only it was that simple. “I’m putting in an order for two Democratic Senators”. And this mysterious being says “Sure two random Democratic Senators coming right up”. The voters of today have to vote like their lives depends on it because they do thanks in large part to the three Supreme Court decisions involving guns, abortions and the environment. And based on some of the primary results they are falling short. Where specifically did I compare Susan Collins to either Walker or Jordan? You do understand that one can criticize folks without putting them in the same category of criticism? Right? Once again we are going to disagree. I’m basing my opinion on what has happened in the past and what I’m observing across the country from my lofty perch in Sonoma County. Maybe my opinion will change if enough people vote for Democrats and keep the Republicans from not only not getting the majority in the House & Senate but increase the the Democratic majority in both chambers. Oh and if Texas elects Beto as their governor. It can be done, but will it? People voted for Biden for a lot of reasons. Some voted for him because he wasn’t Trump. And it’s fairly common for people to vote for one party in the White House and another for Congress. They’re afraid of one party having too much control. And some people are probably perfectly happy with the status quo and/or that he hasn’t been able to push his agenda through. Not everyone agrees with everything he’s trying to do. And not everyone believes the Democrats are trying to help Americans. And no, I’m not suggesting it was a coordinated effort to keep Biden from gaining a majority. Just pointing out that the political climate in 2020 was different than now, priorities were different, etc. I think it also points to the advantage the Republican Party has in the Senate. There were only a few seats that could possibly be flipped. You blamed the people of Maine and 2 other states for not giving Biden a majority. I thought you were saying Susan Collins was one of those bad choices you keep talking about. |
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 16, 2022 1:16:51 GMT
Re: Manchin I’m not a fan, his obstruction is infuriating. And he is a perfect example of why we need finance reform. However, Brooks pointed out that a year ago, Manchin warned about inflation. The economists and experts all thought it was temporary. Manchin turned out to be right. And perhaps an infusion of $3 billion dollars could have made inflation worse. www.pbs.org/newshour/Yes. Maybe later, not now. Not when we’re at 9% inflation. |
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 16, 2022 1:31:10 GMT
Re: Manchin I’m not a fan, his obstruction is infuriating. And he is a perfect example of why we need finance reform. However, Brooks pointed out that a year ago, Manchin warned about inflation. The economists and experts all thought it was temporary. Manchin turned out to be right. And perhaps an infusion of $3 billion dollars could have made inflation worse. www.pbs.org/newshour/Yes. Maybe later, not now. Not when we’re at 9% inflation. I’m not advocating a $3 billion plan, but I think there are ways to pass smaller climate change bills without making inflation worse. If you off-set the expenses with income from higher taxes on the wealthy (over $400,00) it should balance out. And I’m not sure climate change can wait until the Democrats get a bigger majority. Just bringing up Brooks’ point that perhaps Manchin deserves credit for his concern over inflation and maybe, in a backwards kind of way, he did the Democrats a favor by not potentially making inflation worse. |
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Post by lizacreates on Jul 16, 2022 1:36:37 GMT
Yes. Maybe later, not now. Not when we’re at 9% inflation. I’m not advocating a $3 billion plan, but I think there are ways to pass smaller climate change bills without making inflation worse. If you off-set the expenses with income from higher taxes on the wealthy (over $400,00) it should balance out. And I’m not sure climate change can wait until the Democrats get a bigger majority. Just bringing up Brooks’ point that perhaps Manchin deserves credit for his concern over inflation and maybe, in a backwards kind of way, he did the Democrats a favor by not potentially making inflation worse. But Manchin is a no on the tax increase. |
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