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Post by MichyM on Jun 24, 2022 15:18:48 GMT
Ran across this while reading other updates this morning. I’m not a Costco member, so I can’t personally say if the $4.99 chicken is worth the price of how the chickens are treated. And yes, I’m well aware that mistreatment of animals raised for food takes place every day. In my opinion it doesn’t make it ok. Your thoughts? www.cnn.com/2022/06/24/business/costco-rotisserie-chicken-lawsuit/index.html
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Post by peajays on Jun 24, 2022 15:34:08 GMT
I've stopped buying the roasted chickens from our Costco a few years ago, I personally find them to be undercooked and have a wierd rubbery texture. I prefer the ones from our grocery stores.
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Post by busy on Jun 24, 2022 15:34:49 GMT
Sadly, that's the standard treatment for most poultry raised in the US, it's not unique to Costco. I don't buy grocery store/Costco meats for that reason.
I'm fortunate to live just a few miles from a great chicken farm, and to be able to afford to buy their meats. The chickens live their entire life cycle on the farm, are raised humanely, and slaughtered onsite. It's a much healthier and less stressful environment for the animals. I can see their conditions every time I drive by the farm or go to the farm store. They raise a heritage breed that doesn't have the grossly oversized, unnatural breasts that factory farms raise. "All of our chicken is moved onto fresh organically grown pasture every single day and supplemented once a day with a non-GMO (no-corn/no-soy) vegetarian feed ration."
But, it's expensive. Whole chickens are $5.25/lb, bone-in/skin-on thighs and boneless/skin-on breasts are $13.99/lb. So I get that's not an option for everyone. We choose to eat meat and we live in a place where we can buy essentially all of it locally raised from farmers we know and trust. I opt to do that so I am confident in the conditions the animals are raised in, as well as the environmental impact of the farms.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 24, 2022 15:37:14 GMT
This treatment isn’t unique to Costco. Or to chicken.
If you purchase meat, you’re participating in these practices.
I mean, let’s be real, we should include dairy and eggs in that, too.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 24, 2022 22:48:31 GMT
I love almost all things Costco except for the rotisserie chicken. It doesn't taste good to me. It tastes undercooked and slimy. I'd rather get the smaller, more expensive grocery store chicken if we are eating it as-is. If I'm making soup or chicken salad, I'll use the Costco chicken.
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Post by snyder on Jun 24, 2022 22:54:10 GMT
I've stopped buying the roasted chickens from our Costco a few years ago, I personally find them to be undercooked and have a wierd rubbery texture. I prefer the ones from our grocery stores. I've never had one, but have been told that if the meat is rubbery, it means they were given something to grow quickly. I find that a lot of places like KFC and Popeyes have rubbery or stringy chicken. Sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 23:24:03 GMT
I've stopped buying the roasted chickens from our Costco a few years ago, I personally find them to be undercooked and have a wierd rubbery texture. I prefer the ones from our grocery stores. I've never had one, but have been told that if the meat is rubbery, it means they were given something to grow quickly. I find that a lot of places like KFC and Popeyes have rubbery or stringy chicken. Sad. U.S. chickens aren't given anything to make them grow more quickly. Rubbery chicken is due to overcooking.
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Post by snyder on Jun 24, 2022 23:36:23 GMT
I've never had one, but have been told that if the meat is rubbery, it means they were given something to grow quickly. I find that a lot of places like KFC and Popeyes have rubbery or stringy chicken. Sad. U.S. chickens aren't given anything to make them grow more quickly. Rubbery chicken is due to overcooking. I don't have the time to track down sources I've read before, but this one is along the lines that it does indeed affect the meat quality.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 0:03:15 GMT
U.S. chickens aren't given anything to make them grow more quickly. Rubbery chicken is due to overcooking. I don't have the time to track down sources I've read before, but this one is along the lines that it does indeed affect the meat quality.
Right! The article confirms that chickens aren't given anything to make them grow more quickly, which is what I said that disputed what you said. I don't know that "spaghetti" chicken is the same as rubbery, but then again, I don't actually care. And that concludes the time I have for this topic as well. Hooray!
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Post by busy on Jun 25, 2022 0:06:35 GMT
U.S. chickens aren't given anything to make them grow more quickly. Rubbery chicken is due to overcooking. I don't have the time to track down sources I've read before, but this one is along the lines that it does indeed affect the meat quality.
They aren't *given anything* to make them grow that quickly. Rather, they have been selectively bred to grow quickly and to have oversized breasts.
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Post by snyder on Jun 25, 2022 0:16:12 GMT
I don't have the time to track down sources I've read before, but this one is along the lines that it does indeed affect the meat quality.
They aren't *given anything* to make them grow that quickly. Rather, they have been selectively bred to grow quickly and to have oversized breasts. Yes, did not word that correctly, but they were genetically altered to grow faster.
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Post by snyder on Jun 25, 2022 0:16:53 GMT
I don't have the time to track down sources I've read before, but this one is along the lines that it does indeed affect the meat quality.
Right! The article confirms that chickens aren't given anything to make them grow more quickly, which is what I said that disputed what you said. I don't know that "spaghetti" chicken is the same as rubbery, but then again, I don't actually care. And that concludes the time I have for this topic as well. Hooray! Yes, did not word that correctly, but they were genetically altered to grow faster.
And as I said, the link was along the same line.
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Post by Ryann on Jun 25, 2022 0:20:37 GMT
Industrial agriculture is BAD! Bad for animals, bad for the environment, bad for humans!
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Post by mom2jnk on Jun 25, 2022 0:25:13 GMT
The same could be said for so much of our food. We are subsidizing the production of cheap, low quality food that is destroying our environment and our health. All hail industrial food! It's really disgusting on so many levels.
In my house, we have moved away from industrial food to local in season as much as possible for this reason. We are fortunate enough to have the resources to do so and live in an area with fabulous local producers and a strong market for them.
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Post by peace on Jun 25, 2022 12:05:45 GMT
This is why I’m vegan. Not Costco specific but once I opened my eyes to how things work, I could not go back.
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Post by Merge on Jun 25, 2022 12:48:14 GMT
I agree that it’s the standard treatment. It’s very sad IMO.
We also buy our meat and poultry (and eggs) from a local farm that raises and slaughters their animals humanely. We get the Applegate “humanely raised” brand for stuff like lunch meat. It’s not perfect, but better than others. It’s expensive, so we also just eat less meat. Smaller portions, less often.
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Post by mags243 on Jun 25, 2022 17:27:04 GMT
My family gets these chickens. It's great that people can pay $13.99 a pound for chicken, but we can't. I'm not going to judge anyone for doing the best they can for their family.
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Post by quiltz on Jun 25, 2022 21:49:52 GMT
I don't have the time to track down sources I've read before, but this one is along the lines that it does indeed affect the meat quality.
They aren't *given anything* to make them grow that quickly. Rather, they have been selectively bred to grow quickly and to have oversized breasts. Actually a lot has to do with the grain mixture that the birds are being fed. Closer to the end of the cycle, a feed containing ingredients to make the skin crackle when cooking is added.
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Post by busy on Jun 25, 2022 23:01:51 GMT
They aren't *given anything* to make them grow that quickly. Rather, they have been selectively bred to grow quickly and to have oversized breasts. Actually a lot has to do with the grain mixture that the birds are being fed. Closer to the end of the cycle, a feed containing ingredients to make the skin crackle when cooking is added. What kind of feed is that? Any kind of animal skin will crisp up when roasted at the proper temperature?
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Post by quiltz on Jun 26, 2022 5:10:49 GMT
What kind of feed is that? Any kind of animal skin will crisp up when roasted at the proper temperature? I don't know the exact name, and it would probably be a different name than is in Canada. Family are broiler growers and this has been discussed many times over the years. Why are you questioning me on this issue?
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Post by mamapeaah on Jun 26, 2022 14:39:27 GMT
As a vegan I am not surprised. I am fully aware of the horrible conditions most animals raised for meat are subjected to.
It doesn't surprise me that Costco would be even worse. I heard once they even purchased their own farms so they supply the chickens themselves, although I do not know if this is true.
The true horrors though are saved for poor dairy cows and egg laying chickens. I won't get into detail but you can always google dairy is scary for a quick 5 minute glimpse into the dairy industry. And for eggs, just ask yourself, what happens to all the chicks that are born male?
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Post by iowgirl on Jun 26, 2022 14:50:44 GMT
This treatment isn’t unique to Costco. Or to chicken. If you purchase meat, you’re participating in these practices Do not paint every meat producer with that broad brush. I personally find that to be an attack on me. Shame on you. My husband, myself, and our children spend everyday of every year producing high quality beef in humane conditions. Our goal is to be profitable, and profitable enough to justify the extreme amount of time and hard work we put into it. But our livestock is never abused. It is fed very high quality forage and grain that we also raise ourself. Everyday is spent working hard to keep our livestock comfortable and healthy. The beef cattle are inside confinement barns. They are not packed tight. They can move freely and can lay down if they want. But they are not given so much room that they can injure themselves. They always have fresh clean water - ALWAYS. Our family will go without before the livestock does. They are cool in the summer and warm in the winter. Could someone with an agenda go in and film inside these barns and make it look bad - absofuckinglutly. Are some animals produced in a manner that I don't agree with - yes. Chickens and turkeys are bred to be heavy breasted. I don't like that anymore than a lot of you do. I watched a grown man break down in tears because every bird in his turkey barns had to be euthanized (that is not a pretty process) because bird flu had been detected in one of his barns. Every barn had to be euthanized. He will recoup his money. But that was not why he broke down. His life was dedicated to raising clean healthy birds, and just killing them about killed him. We had a situation were a large amount of our cattle had fallen into a pit. My husband contacted our insurance. We could not quickly euthanize them. The only way we could file a claim is if the cattle drowned. DROWNED. My husband risked his life by quickly building a device to allow the cattle to walk up out of this pit. And I am not kidding when I say he risked his life. I was on the edge of hysteria at one point in fear for his life. He said he would die before he let all those cattle drown. So your comment really pissed me off. Getting locally farm raised meat is ideal, but good luck feeding the population with that. It is too expensive. And it is only getting worse. Consider yourself lucky if you can choose to never buy a $4.99 chicken to feed your family, because that is all you can afford. People who know nothing about agriculture can conjure up the most inflammatory statements that are not fact based, or the facts are skewed to their agenda.
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Post by quiltz on Jun 26, 2022 15:06:34 GMT
Do not paint every meat producer with that broad brush. I personally find that to be an attack on me. Shame on you. My husband, myself, and our children spend everyday of every year producing high quality beef in humane conditions. Our goal is to be profitable, and profitable enough to justify the extreme amount of time and hard work we put into it. But our livestock is never abused. It is fed very high quality forage and grain that we also raise ourself. Everyday is spent working hard to keep our livestock comfortable and healthy. The beef cattle are inside confinement barns. They are not packed tight. They can move freely and can lay down if they want. But they are not given so much room that they can injure themselves. They always have fresh clean water - ALWAYS. Our family will go without before the livestock does. They are cool in the summer and warm in the winter. Could someone with an agenda go in and film inside these barns and make it look bad - absofuckinglutly. Are some animals produced in a manner that I don't agree with - yes. Chickens and turkeys are bred to be heavy breasted. I don't like that anymore than a lot of you do. I watched a grown man break down in tears because every bird in his turkey barns had to be euthanized (that is not a pretty process) because bird flu had been detected in one of his barns. Every barn had to be euthanized. He will recoup his money. But that was not why he broke down. His life was dedicated to raising clean healthy birds, and just killing them about killed him. We had a situation were a large amount of our cattle had fallen into a pit. My husband contacted our insurance. We could not quickly euthanize them. The only way we could file a claim is if the cattle drowned. DROWNED. My husband risked his life by quickly building a device to allow the cattle to walk up out of this pit. And I am not kidding when I say he risked his life. I was on the edge of hysteria at one point in fear for his life. He said he would die before he let all those cattle drown. So your comment really pissed me off. Getting locally farm raised meat is ideal, but good luck feeding the population with that. It is too expensive. And it is only getting worse. Consider yourself lucky if you can choose to never buy a $4.99 chicken to feed your family, because that is all you can afford. People who know nothing about agriculture can conjure up the most inflammatory statements that are not fact based, or the facts are skewed to their agenda. I admire the work that you do everyday. I also, have seen grown men cry when a crop (field or barn) is in danger or needs to be destroyed. There is simply so much work in farming and it seems like the bad farmers are considered by ignorant of agri-growing people seem to fixate on. Thank you for providing people with quality products that they can feed their family with. A lot of people in my family are farmers and it is a business that is 24/7~365 days. The gamblers in Vegas are amateurs in gambling as a farmer has to take so many things into consideration that is both their livelihood and their family's home. Added in is a chuckle when busy asks what is the grain mixture that makes a chicken's skin crackle. I didn't realize that she was in agriculture. And then Ryann who still thinks that an Old MacDonald type farm is still a farming model. Please enjoy an extra treat today, as I am so grateful that farmers such as yourself are feeding America!
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Post by mags243 on Jun 26, 2022 16:38:48 GMT
This 100%! My husband is a grain farmer, although we currently have laying chickens and have raised a few beef in years past. I had a very long post typed out, and deleted it. Suffice to say unless you live this life you have absolutely no idea what it entails and the unimaginable stress family farmers are under. It is one of the deadliest professions, and there is a reason farmers are so highly at risk for death by suicide.
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Post by peasapie on Jun 26, 2022 16:46:39 GMT
I don’t buy meats, fish or poultry at Costco because I can get better quality elsewhere for the same or less. I do buy humanely raised, free-range eggs at the grocery store. If I was sure how to do the same for meat and poultry, I would do so. Animals raised for human consumption are too often badly treated, and I don’t kid myself about that. Right now we only eat animal protein a few times a week and have switched over to natural sources of protein. ETA iowagirl50147 and others — is there a way to discriminate between meat from animals raised humanely and the rest?
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Post by quiltz on Jun 26, 2022 23:05:09 GMT
is there a way to discriminate between meat from animals raised humanely and the rest? You could research where the meat at your local grocery chain comes from. Independent farmers, not corporate congromulates, would be a way to find out. Find out where the local meat processing plant gets their meat from. Stay away from huge meat processing plans as they usually get their food from the huge non-family farm.
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Post by kamper on Jun 27, 2022 2:38:53 GMT
Industrial agriculture is BAD! Bad for animals, bad for the environment, bad for humans! THIS. I eat a plant based diet because I believe that industrial agriculture is bad. Bad for humans because, the workers have to work in horrible conditions and the slaughter animals that they know to be inhuman. Why would you continue to consume a product you knew caused moral (and physical) harm to humans and was cruel to animals?
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