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Post by Legacy Girl on Jul 4, 2022 7:50:13 GMT
...if you walked in another's shoes?
I think about this a lot. Just this weekend, I watched a beautiful family at my summer swim club. They learned this week that their young child has had a recurrence of a brain tumor. And they were all playing together like there is no tomorrow.
There is at least one lovely Pea among us who is unable to take food by mouth. And yet she cooks for those she loves.
Somewhere in the world, someone has won a million dollars or more scratching a lottery ticket. And given every penny away.
Someone else may have a developmental disability. His struggles may be intense. But somehow, he finds more joy in life than others who seem to "have it all."
I often think about myself. And my shortcomings. And how I might change the world if I more often considered others' shoes and how they walk in them. I think I might count my blessings more often. I might be kinder to others. I might not insist on my own way every time I'm invited into an argument. I might smile more at others. I might forgive more quickly. I would definitely value each day at least a little bit -- and probably a whole lot -- more.
So, how about you. Have you considered walking in someone else's shoes? And how might the world look different to you? Or what would you change or value after taking that walk? I'm curious as to whether anyone HAS changed the way they look at the world because of how others have lived? I'll be eager to hear your responses.
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Post by gar on Jul 4, 2022 9:49:41 GMT
I haven’t done anything dramatic but I do definitely try and think about, and be aware of, other people’s lives. Sometimes that just makes me stop and be aware of all the things I’m grateful for and other times it makes me maybe have a little more patience with someone who is taking too long over something. Occasionally I might feel a twinge of jealousy I must admit (I would do some amazing things with a lottery win! 😁 ) but it can also be really interesting to ponder other people’s stories 😊
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Post by guzismom on Jul 4, 2022 14:36:36 GMT
The poverty of my husband's country of birth absolutely changed the way I approach food and food waste. I passed that along to my girls. We rarely/never throw food away. Scraps on a plate? Yes, scraps; literally one or two bites. But leftovers we're tired of or food that isn't our favorite? No, never. I will pay more to get JUST a sandwich and drink rather that pay less to get the fries that I know I can't/won't eat. This short film sums it up perfectly and still haunts me: Chicken Ala Carte
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 4, 2022 14:52:18 GMT
This is a very interesting question. I read mostly non fiction. My reads are usually self help, psychology or sociology related. I am incredibly interested in how other people feel and act. And I am incredibly interested in how I behave and what I feel too.
I recently took the enneagram test. My therapist had suggested it. And what I learned is that I'm a 4. The biggest drawback of being a 4 is envy. Not envy of things, possessions. But envy of the happiness of others. I bristled against this suggestion for about a week. Surely I am not jealous. And what came down to is that I am and I am not.
I wish for simplicity. I wish for normalcy. There is a very primal instinct inside me that is always on a quest to improve my life, understand myself better, and learn to live more in harmony with other people. But then I have very mixed feelings because I have a strong sense of authenticity. This is me warts and all and if I want acceptance, then I have to accept that from others too. And do so without envy. When I step back and look hard, I truly don't want their life. But I have remind myself of it.
So honestly most of the time, I think I do a pretty good job of seeing things from others perspectives. But I have to constantly remind myself that I don't see it all.
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Post by Just T on Jul 4, 2022 14:57:30 GMT
Yes, I do often place myself in other's shoes. I always can see the other side of things.
I could write a book, but I won't. I will just say that our world would be a much better place if everyone could step out of their own little bubbles and think to themselves, "what if..."
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Post by greendragonlady on Jul 4, 2022 15:14:25 GMT
The poverty of my husband's country of birth absolutely changed the way I approach food and food waste. I passed that along to my girls. We rarely/never throw food away. Scraps on a plate? Yes, scraps; literally one or two bites. But leftovers we're tired of or food that isn't our favorite? No, never. I will pay more to get JUST a sandwich and drink rather that pay less to get the fries that I know I can't/won't eat. This short film sums it up perfectly and still haunts me: Chicken Ala CarteIt's DISGUSTING what our country throws away. I hear stories all the time about restaurants and grocery stores who throw perfectly good food out, and POUR BLEACH ON IT so people won't dumpster dive because they're afraid of getting sued or something. There is NO REASON why that food can't be given to food banks, shelters, etc. It's especially heartbreaking to see starving children. The kids in that video were so happy to get just the scraps. I try really hard to only buy what we are going to eat so we don't have spoiled food. I want to try to have a garden next year so we can grow a lot of our own. It's so hard for me physically, though.
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Post by mags243 on Jul 4, 2022 16:03:16 GMT
I have no idea how to quote on here, but the food waste in our country is appalling. My twins both work food service jobs in the summer. One works at a fast food place that, when he hired in, offered a free meal while working. They stopped that about a month ago, but continue to have a waste bucket all timed out food goes into. My son asked if the crew could have the sandwiches instead of trashing them, and was told no, because that's the policy. The other one works on the food side of a gas station, and he said they throw out TONS of food. They have to have so many pizzas/sandwiches sitting out, and those are timed out and trashed. He asked about sending them to the city's homeless shelter and can't because of liability. At some point there was probably one person who sued over 'expired' food, and now these rules are in place.
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Post by peano on Jul 4, 2022 16:41:25 GMT
This is a very interesting question. I read mostly non fiction. My reads are usually self help, psychology or sociology related. I am incredibly interested in how other people feel and act. And I am incredibly interested in how I behave and what I feel too. I recently took the enneagram test. My therapist had suggested it. And what I learned is that I'm a 4. The biggest drawback of being a 4 is envy. Not envy of things, possessions. But envy of the happiness of others. I bristled against this suggestion for about a week. Surely I am not jealous. And what came down to is that I am and I am not. I wish for simplicity. I wish for normalcy. There is a very primal instinct inside me that is always on a quest to improve my life, understand myself better, and learn to live more in harmony with other people. But then I have very mixed feelings because I have a strong sense of authenticity. This is me warts and all and if I want acceptance, then I have to accept that from others too. And do so without envy. When I step back and look hard, I truly don't want their life. But I have remind myself of it. So honestly most of the time, I think I do a pretty good job of seeing things from others perspectives. But I have to constantly remind myself that I don't see it all. Wow! I do so admire your capacity for self-reflection and the courage to examine your flaws. I’m sorry we can’t sit down over a cup of tea and chat. I think I’d learn a lot.
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Post by Just T on Jul 4, 2022 17:01:03 GMT
The poverty of my husband's country of birth absolutely changed the way I approach food and food waste. I passed that along to my girls. We rarely/never throw food away. Scraps on a plate? Yes, scraps; literally one or two bites. But leftovers we're tired of or food that isn't our favorite? No, never. I will pay more to get JUST a sandwich and drink rather that pay less to get the fries that I know I can't/won't eat. This short film sums it up perfectly and still haunts me: Chicken Ala CarteI recently spent the weekend with a friend and her husband. He told the saddest story. He had just flown for work, and when he arrived in Chicago, he took an Uber to his destination. The Uber driver was from a middle eastern country and had only been in the US for about a year. My friend's husband asked him what was his biggest adjustment to life in the US, and he said WATER. He said he is so shocked when he sees fountains and can't fathom being so careless with water as where he is from, it is scarce, and people have to carry it from rivers to their homes. That blew me away thinking about it. Of course, I realize this is the reality for a lot of the world's people, but to hear it from that perspective was eye opening, as he said it was for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 17:27:54 GMT
Definitely moving to Morocco has changed my outlook and the way we live quite a lot. Even before we moved here, I was struck at the poverty here. Yes, there is poor in America, but they typically still can get water or some food. Here, there are many that might not have access to potable water, food, bathrooms. And to think Morocco is high on the list of more developed countries in Africa. I cannot even imagine how much worse it gets heading into the sub-Sahara regions.
I was really struck at how gluttonous life is in America. The food portions compared to here...MY GOD! There aren't refills here. Just the amount of clothing and personal items that people own here vs. in America. Mind-blowing.
I cook less quantities of food because we have just gotten used to eating less. If we have leftovers, we almost always give them to our house help. The kids clothes they have outgrown or toys...always give them to others. Living here has really opened my eyes to how incredibly blessed we are.
Working in the schools here was a huge eye opener as well. Some kids couldn't afford books or even basic school supplies. I would often have "contests" (homework/participation) in which the kids could win crayons or pencils or notebooks. It would blow you away to see how happy they would be to have something so simple.
I could go on and on about life stories of the people I have met here. It really is a game changer when you can really stop and realize that yes...others are quite a bit less fortunate. We all still have bad things happen, I am not trying to discount that. But traveling and living in a third world country will flip your world around for sure.
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Post by tommygirl on Jul 4, 2022 17:49:36 GMT
We watched the movie CODA last night and i definitely gives you a view of other peoples lives and struggles.
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Post by Merge on Jul 4, 2022 17:58:10 GMT
My personality type tends to be very affected by the feelings and emotions of others, so yes. Living/working with people from different backgrounds helps a lot with being able to imagine others' perspectives, as does travel to different cultures.
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Post by craftedbys on Jul 4, 2022 18:10:53 GMT
So many times I will come to the board ready to vent or whine about something in my life and then after reading posts from other Peas I realize how blessed/lucky/fortunate my life is.
Yes, I have challenges and some issues I probably need to work on, but so many times I look at how Peas are facing adversity, illness, death of loved ones etc and I marvel at how they manage to deal with everything with grace and strength.
There are things that Peas have endured that I know that I would not have had the strength to keep going.
I try to take lessons other Peas have both learned and taught and try to apply them to my life.
Many times I have to say "There but for the Grace of God go I".
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Post by lucyg on Jul 4, 2022 19:44:06 GMT
When I started empathizing more with other people’s lives and experiences … I became a Democrat.
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Post by librarylady on Jul 4, 2022 19:50:56 GMT
Visiting Russia in the 1990s and then China in 2004 made me very aware of how wasteful we are in the USA. Also, every Monday I volunteer at a ministry that provides financial help with rent or utilities. The stories that we hear are heartbreaking. I am the receptionist and often have women crying when they call or crying when we say we will help. It keeps me aware. Side note: we also give a free box of groceries daily to those who come to get it. The medical school has a clinic for our clients and the dental college operates a clinic on the premises also. Clothing and school uniforms are also available. I am proud to be associated with the ministry (supported by about 30 churches and several different denominations).
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Post by elaine on Jul 4, 2022 20:40:00 GMT
My life has been so hard that the only time I do this, I wonder how much easier/different my life might be if I were lucky enough to walk in someone else’s shoes - but I don’t in the ways that you are asking about.
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Post by pixiechick on Jul 4, 2022 21:07:17 GMT
This is a very interesting question. I read mostly non fiction. My reads are usually self help, psychology or sociology related. I am incredibly interested in how other people feel and act. And I am incredibly interested in how I behave and what I feel too. I recently took the enneagram test. My therapist had suggested it. And what I learned is that I'm a 4. The biggest drawback of being a 4 is envy. Not envy of things, possessions. But envy of the happiness of others. I bristled against this suggestion for about a week. Surely I am not jealous. And what came down to is that I am and I am not. I wish for simplicity. I wish for normalcy. There is a very primal instinct inside me that is always on a quest to improve my life, understand myself better, and learn to live more in harmony with other people. But then I have very mixed feelings because I have a strong sense of authenticity. This is me warts and all and if I want acceptance, then I have to accept that from others too. And do so without envy. When I step back and look hard, I truly don't want their life. But I have remind myself of it. So honestly most of the time, I think I do a pretty good job of seeing things from others perspectives. But I have to constantly remind myself that I don't see it all. I just wanted to let you know that this comes across very clearly in your posts. I think you are a very thoughtful and kind person.
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Post by papersilly on Jul 4, 2022 22:02:27 GMT
I am acutely aware that life could be very different for me and I am very grateful for what I have. I remember humble beginnings of living in public housing, having subsidized school lunches, and not having money for extracurricular activities, etc. Fast forward 40+ years and life is very different. Opportunity is everything. We are healthy, educated, and reasonably secure. I say reasonably because who is ever completely secure? I don't take any of those things for granted.
We were on a large family trip overseas in a nation that some would consider third world. The abject poverty was palpable and crushing. There was almost a feeling of survivor's guilt when walking around. We've been other places, even domestically, where it felt like this. Why were we "lucky" and not them? It really put things in perspective.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 4, 2022 23:19:45 GMT
Legacy Girl , I think I know who you're referring to. I have to remind myself to be tolerant of people who live in their misery, because I just cannot do so. I wouldn't want to live in anyone else's shoes. Nor would I want anyone to live in mine. We're each unique and every single one of us has challenges that are unique to us. None of us has a perfect life. What is important, imho is our attitude about our lives. As awful as things can be in our lives and some of the women on this board are bombarded by challenges 24/7, there is always room to find something good. You have to be willing to look for it and to embrace it. It's much easier to be negative than to have a positive attitude.
scrappintoee, you are the product of alcoholics and your foundation was built on co-dependency. However, you've learned the hard way that you cannot save anyone else and you can't care for someone who refuses to care for either you or themselves. Your parents robbed you of a happy home and the chance to be a care free child. That level of co-dependency is so disruptive. The interesting thing is that rather than become self destructive, you became a helper and you are one who gives service rather than taking from others. Might I use this moment as a reminder that you are worthy of the happiness that you never knew. Even in your current home. You are under no obligation to take care of someone who continues to hurt you. EVER! It's never too late to learn to put yourself first. W/o taking care of yourself first you won't have healthy energy to help others. Just a reminder that you're really lovable and wonderful and no one has the right to disrupt your life or your home. Now you're the adult!
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Post by rickmer on Jul 4, 2022 23:22:01 GMT
interesting questions.... i remind myself often of the privilege and opportunities that have been afforded to me, especially when i catch myself feeling sorry for myself.
i look at things others have and think "it would be nice to have that" but then remember, someone will look at what i have and say "looked how lucky she is".
when people don't respond in a polite or friendly manner, i remind myself that perhaps they may have just received some bad news or have worries weighing heavy on them.
when people are totally awful on an ongoing basis, i tend to feel sorry for them. it must suck to live in such a negative headspace and assume the worst about everything and everyone in your life.
i am very careful to not say things like "i am so jealous" or "must be nice" when someone in my life has something amazing going on. it seems like those comments imply that person is not worthy of what joy they are experiencing, or that i somehow feel i am more deserving.
so i do try hard to be introspective... but admit, i am more wasteful than i should be. laziness and bad planning, that is my weakness.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2022 9:56:40 GMT
My life has been so hard that the only time I do this, I wonder how much easier/different my life might be if I were lucky enough to walk in someone else’s shoes - but I don’t in the ways that you are asking about. My dear Elaine, I would imagine that just being able to walk barefoot would be enough.
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Post by elaine on Jul 5, 2022 13:54:03 GMT
My life has been so hard that the only time I do this, I wonder how much easier/different my life might be if I were lucky enough to walk in someone else’s shoes - but I don’t in the ways that you are asking about. My dear Elaine, I would imagine that just being able to walk barefoot would be enough. Thank you, my friend. ❤️ I am sorry for my previous post - it has been a particularly hard summer so far with my kids (who are adults now) and so I vented some of that. Yesterday was particularly violent and last week I had to cut short my New Orleans trip (only the second trip I’ve attempted with my Dh since we started having kids 22 years ago) because the police were called on ds#2 because he couldn’t handle both Dh and I out of town at the same time. I feel imprisoned by the situation with my children - there is literally no escape or real respite. I actually do think, on a regular basis while walking the dogs (great time for thinking), how lucky I am that fate/chance/G-d/or whatever-you-believe allowed me to be born into circumstances which allow me to have a roof over my head, enough to eat, indoor plumbing, not too crowded living situation, ability to take a shower whenever I want to, etc. So, yes, I do imagine what it would be like without the physical comfort I take for granted on a regular basis. I try to acknowledge how lucky I am and say some internal words of gratitude for all that I do have.
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Post by J u l e e on Jul 5, 2022 14:02:05 GMT
My dear Elaine, I would imagine that just being able to walk barefoot would be enough. Thank you, my friend. ❤️ I am sorry for my previous post - it has been a particularly hard summer so far with my kids (who are adults now) and so I vented some of that. Yesterday was particularly violent and last week I had to cut short my New Orleans trip (only the second trip I’ve attempted with my Dh since we started having kids 22 years ago) because the police were called on ds#2 because he couldn’t handle both Dh and I out of town at the same time. I feel imprisoned by the situation with my children - there is literally no escape or real respite. I actually do think, on a regular basis while walking the dogs (great time for thinking), how lucky I am that fate/chance/G-d/or whatever-you-believe allowed me to be born into circumstances which allow me to have a roof over my head, enough to eat, indoor plumbing, not too crowded living situation, ability to take a shower whenever I want to, etc. So, yes, I do imagine what it would be like without the physical comfort I take for granted on a regular basis. I try to acknowledge how lucky I am and say some internal words of gratitude for all that I do have. I have zero doubt that you do that. Please don’t feel you have to apologize for your post. It was so honest and I think that’s important too. (((HUGS)))
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Post by TankTop on Jul 5, 2022 14:06:17 GMT
Yes I do.
There are a few people I follow on Instagram who have these lives that just seem so ideal to me. Huge families. Family gatherings. People and gatherings.
I often wonder what the would feel like. What it would be like to have a system, a soft place, a pre-set plan for holidays, people around the table, traditions. I really think that is where I would thrive. I often wonder if that is why I am a teacher. I create that in mg classroom.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 5, 2022 14:07:47 GMT
My dear Elaine, I would imagine that just being able to walk barefoot would be enough. Thank you, my friend. ❤️ I am sorry for my previous post - it has been a particularly hard summer so far with my kids (who are adults now) and so I vented some of that. Yesterday was particularly violent and last week I had to cut short my New Orleans trip (only the second trip I’ve attempted with my Dh since we started having kids 22 years ago) because the police were called on ds#2 because he couldn’t handle both Dh and I out of town at the same time. I feel imprisoned by the situation with my children - there is literally no escape or real respite. I actually do think, on a regular basis while walking the dogs (great time for thinking), how lucky I am that fate/chance/G-d/or whatever-you-believe allowed me to be born into circumstances which allow me to have a roof over my head, enough to eat, indoor plumbing, not too crowded living situation, ability to take a shower whenever I want to, etc. So, yes, I do imagine what it would be like without the physical comfort I take for granted on a regular basis. I try to acknowledge how lucky I am and say some internal words of gratitude for all that I do have. It is absolutely, completely possible to be simultaneously grateful for our blessings and yet have some really shitty things going on that are drowning us. There is no need to apologize. And there's also no need to feel like you have to express your gratitude (we all know you are and things can always be worse for everyone) when you are expressing you are going through a really rough time. You have my empathy. It stinks that your vacation was ended prematurely. You have a lot on your plate with how challenging your kids are and it's completely understandable. You have my hugs.
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Post by TankTop on Jul 5, 2022 14:10:03 GMT
My life has been so hard that the only time I do this, I wonder how much easier/different my life might be if I were lucky enough to walk in someone else’s shoes - but I don’t in the ways that you are asking about. Hugs Elaine.
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Post by Merge on Jul 5, 2022 15:00:49 GMT
My dear Elaine, I would imagine that just being able to walk barefoot would be enough. Thank you, my friend. ❤️ I am sorry for my previous post - it has been a particularly hard summer so far with my kids (who are adults now) and so I vented some of that. Yesterday was particularly violent and last week I had to cut short my New Orleans trip (only the second trip I’ve attempted with my Dh since we started having kids 22 years ago) because the police were called on ds#2 because he couldn’t handle both Dh and I out of town at the same time. I feel imprisoned by the situation with my children - there is literally no escape or real respite. I actually do think, on a regular basis while walking the dogs (great time for thinking), how lucky I am that fate/chance/G-d/or whatever-you-believe allowed me to be born into circumstances which allow me to have a roof over my head, enough to eat, indoor plumbing, not too crowded living situation, ability to take a shower whenever I want to, etc. So, yes, I do imagine what it would be like without the physical comfort I take for granted on a regular basis. I try to acknowledge how lucky I am and say some internal words of gratitude for all that I do have. Elaine, you don’t need to apologize. TBH when things are rough with my kids, your family is one that I think of (as well as all of those with special needs young adult children). Some people have to learn empathy outside their own home; others get it handed to them with the hand fate has dealt them. You are the latter. The fact that you can take what you’ve learned and have been through and apply that extensive compassion and experience in a classroom setting? Amazing to me.
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Post by melanell on Jul 5, 2022 18:12:15 GMT
I find it very easy to imagine different possibilities that might exist for other people. So much so that people who jump to conclusions, make assumptions, judge strangers, etc. often baffle me in that they act as if they see only one possibility (typically negative) and not the dozens or more that I see.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 6, 2022 17:20:19 GMT
I do think about it because I know firsthand how blessed and lucky we are, and try to teach my kid to do the same. Her reality growing up is vastly different, almost polar opposite, to what my experiences were at her age. I would have dreamed to have her life. I want her to have an understanding of the fact that not everyone has the advantages we currently have, not everyone can move through life so effortlessly, so she will appreciate them and not take everything as a given or a default because it most certainly isn’t.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 6, 2022 17:22:39 GMT
I find it very easy to imagine different possibilities that might exist for other people. So much so that people who jump to conclusions, make assumptions, judge strangers, etc. often baffle me in that they act as if they see only one possibility (typically negative) and not the dozens or more that I see. I am this way, too, and it sometimes gets me into arguments because often I will 'see the other side' of an issue or situation because of the myriad of possibilities / reasons for things, instead of agreeing with the person's viewpoint right off the bat.
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