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Post by PEArfect on Dec 2, 2014 17:42:58 GMT
I know there are several avenues for careers in social work. If you have a degree in social work please tell me about your career, positives and negatives. When I graduate I want to actually use my degree. Just considering different options at this point and social work is one. Thanks!
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Post by CeeScraps on Dec 2, 2014 17:49:48 GMT
I'm not a social worker, but I teach. My understanding is that you need a masters. Now, that could of changed, but you might want to check into that.
Good luck with whatever you decide!
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Post by heckofagal on Dec 2, 2014 17:53:15 GMT
I was just logging in to say that too. My daughter is currently seeking a degree inch social work and she is being told she will need a Master's degree as well. And from what I have accidentally stumbled across in my job search, even with master's degree these positions don't pay very much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 17:58:04 GMT
My sister-in-law is a social worker. As I'm sure you know, it is not a high paying field. And CeeScraps is right - for the most part, you need an MSW to work in the field. SIL did work for a few years without one in a privately owned nursing home, but it was a low paying position and there was no opportunity for growth without an MSW. And my understanding from her is that many jobs not only require an MSW but also some kind of post-MSW certification that can take a couple years to get. She interned at the Seattle VA during her Masters program and was interested in working there, but they require that additional certification. Sorry, I don't remember the details of that - what it's called, etc..
My SIL went to grad school and got an MSW after a while at the nursing home and she now has a better job, but it's still low-paying compared to her education level (though it pays well for social work) Her husband is in IT security, so her income is more of a bonus to the family, but she's been clear that she will probably never recoup the cost of her MSW.
It's important work and people who do it are to be commended, but you need to be realistic about the career prospects going in. You may love the work, but it's never going to be even in the ballpark of lucrative.
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Post by PEArfect on Dec 2, 2014 18:02:08 GMT
Thanks for the information. I did know about the MSW for higher paid positions. It's such a tough decision to make. I don't want to waste my time or money on a degree that won't be used or provide enough income for our family. Thanks!
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Post by MerryMom on Dec 2, 2014 18:23:03 GMT
I have a BSW and MSW and you can get jobs with a BSW. I've worked in child welfare for 22 years and a lot of caseworkers and investigators have BSW. To do counseling, you will need a Master's degree plus the appropriate licensure such as LISW (Licensed Independent Social Worker) which means you can bill insurance companies. If you are leaning towards the "helping profession", with a social work degree, you can actually get jobs as opposed to a bachelor's degree in psychology, etc. where the bachelor's degree is merely the first step towards a PhD.
The good: is that you have a job where you are on the front lines and can help people.
The bad: is that you have a job where you are on the front lines and you can't help people or the people make the same mistakes over and over again. In my field, I see a lot of bad situations with kids.
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Post by iowgirl on Dec 2, 2014 18:32:15 GMT
My cousin has a BSW - and she works with at risk youth and kids that are arrested, but not really in the system yet. It is not a high paying job. The hours are not good. When you are new, you will have 3rd shift type of hours - and that could be for several years.
If you acquire a lot of student loan debt getting this degree - I don't know if it will ever pay. It's sad - because we need really good people doing this job!
My daughter considered social work, but when she did some career planning and plugged in the salary numbers and the stress of the job - she decided against it.
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Post by MerryMom on Dec 2, 2014 18:34:24 GMT
One thing is that if you have federal student loans, and you work in a public service job right after graduation, you can "work off" your student loan debt while working for children services or Help Me Grow. link It depends on the type of federal student loan you have. So let's say you have $15,000 in student loans, you graduate and take a job in child welfare making $25000 a year, with not paying your student loans, over 5 years, that's actually like you are making $30000 a year.
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Post by pelirroja on Dec 2, 2014 18:36:45 GMT
I was going to say MSW, also. I'm not a social worker but one of my friends is a MSW. After twenty-plus years of it (working with children in hospital ER situations), she could no longer do that job because it sometimes meant returning kids to dangerous situations and her career became an ethical and moral dilemma for her. She has since moved into gerontology but once again she sometimes finds herself in the middle of family fights and exploitative situations. The difference this time is the age of the victim and the age of the perpetrator: now it's kids sometimes doing wrong to the parents. She's on the brink of burnout and her income is very low for the amount of $ her education cost. She's a kind-hearted and well-intentioned person but I have a feeling she will be changing fields very soon. She often tells me she keeps rescuing people who keep making the same mistakes over and over (just with different people).
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Post by gorgeouskid on Dec 2, 2014 18:40:00 GMT
There is a very high burn out rate in social work, if you choose to work in the field.
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Post by sharlag on Dec 2, 2014 18:40:42 GMT
Bless your heart for pursuing this helping profession! 
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Post by christine58 on Dec 2, 2014 18:44:12 GMT
I know there are several avenues for careers in social work. If you have a degree in social work please tell me about your career, positives and negatives. When I graduate I want to actually use my degree. Just considering different options at this point and social work is one. Thanks! You need a Master's Degree in Social Work
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Post by PEArfect on Dec 2, 2014 18:46:13 GMT
I appreciate all of the insight. It's very helpful!
Here is my situation. I'm 39. I have three daughters (15, 12, and 7.) I've been a sahm for over 15 years. My husband passed away in February. I would like to go back to college, get a degree, and find a position before our health insurance is cancelled (less than 5 years.) Being a single income home I have to consider salary and not just my 'passion.'
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Post by pelirroja on Dec 2, 2014 18:49:59 GMT
Jen: have you considered going into nursing? It pays well and is a helping profession. My aunt has been a nurse for years and still loves her job: there are so many different fields in nursing that will give you plenty of opportunities. HTH!
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 2, 2014 19:27:22 GMT
I was going to suggest nursing as well. Many work long shifts, but then only work 3-4 days a week.
Also STEM jobs are big right now. DS is a senior and we have been looking at career fields. I don't care if he makes millions, but I want him to get a job when he finishes HS and not move back into my basement. I would suggest some career counseling for you. You are right, you really need to look at the practical aspects. I would have someon in the know really help you choose the right path that will be rewarding for you and to pay your bills. Remember, there are a lot of volunteer opportunities to help those in need. Maybe you could volunteer somewhere as a family and that could be the outlet for you to feel like you are giving back.
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Post by gottapeanow on Dec 2, 2014 19:27:39 GMT
Like [HASH]pelirroja said, nursing is a great option. And you can pursue a case management or social work position as well.
Lisa
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Post by PEArfect on Dec 2, 2014 19:28:14 GMT
Jen: have you considered going into nursing? It pays well and is a helping profession. My aunt has been a nurse for years and still loves her job: there are so many different fields in nursing that will give you plenty of opportunities. HTH! If I was going to go the medical route it would be dietician/nutrition. Honestly that was my first choice, but I wasn't sure if I would be able to find a position right away. The demand for dieticians is increasing though from what I've researched and been told. The other option I'm considering is physical therapy. I just don't think nursing would be the right fit for me, but you are right. They are in high demand!
I found a list for careers that are in high demand in Indiana:
nursing medical assistant physical therapy dental hygieniest food service hotel managers truck drivers plumber teacher surgeon
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Post by scrapngranny on Dec 2, 2014 19:36:52 GMT
If you have the stomach for it, nursing is a great career choice. The are many different things you can do with a nursing degree and flexible hours. Good luck with your decision.
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Post by PEArfect on Dec 2, 2014 19:45:43 GMT
What about a PT assistant? You do not need as much education/debt. Or what about dental hygiene? BTW. I am sorry you lost your husband and have to figure this all out.. Thank you. I have been considering physical therapy, but dental hygiene is not for me.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 2, 2014 20:03:26 GMT
And dental hygiene doesn't pay a lot and it's often part time.
What about something like a plumber or an electrician? My brother and father are both electricians and make a decent wage. Not a ton, but not bad either. Both are union, so there is health care as well. But you work less if there a recession... That list looks like a lot of minimum wage jobs. Keep looking. You will find something that clicks.
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Post by paget on Dec 2, 2014 20:05:45 GMT
I'm getting my MSW. It matters a lot where you live and then what job you take. At my current job they will hire me for another postion as soon as I have my masters and it starts at $55,000. For me that is decent for a starting postion. I also work with a lot of childrens administration (cps) workers making $50,000-$60,000 and they don't even need their MSW- but they do need experience to compensate I they don't. I've looked at social work jobs in hosptials and they are all starting at $50,000. I've seen MSW jobs as high as $80,000 (rare I am sure!). I am planning on practicing therapy after a while aNd that is more lucrative as well. I will just need to pass my licensing after I get my MSW. -- and be supervised by another MSW to gets my hours before moving to next level of liceenisng.
Each state is differernt for pay and licensing requirements. Added to my husbands income, starting at $55,000 ish works for me. Your mileage may vary! I like that the MSW is a versatile degree. My first choice though was occupational therapy but I couldn't pursue due to my family obligations. Now that is definitely lucrative if that is your main consideration.
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Post by PEArfect on Dec 2, 2014 20:52:58 GMT
Thank you for all of your responses. You have given me more to consider.
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Post by christine58 on Dec 2, 2014 20:59:58 GMT
What about a PT assistant? You do not need as much education/debt. Or what about dental hygiene? BTW. I am sorry you lost your husband and have to figure this all out.. Thank you. I have been considering physical therapy, but dental hygiene is not for me.
Physical therapy degrees in some states are now PhD's.....My niece's friend was in college for 6 years. Do you have any college courses at this point?? If you're looking into PT...look into a PTA (assistant) program.
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Post by PEArfect on Dec 2, 2014 21:08:00 GMT
Ok, I'm researching 5 Indiana colleges that offer bachelor and master degrees in physical therapy. Online would be best.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 21:40:52 GMT
My sister was a social worker but she never worked in child protection. (it is a mess in my province). What she did was work for Veteran's Affairs Canada. That meant Vets and former RCMP officers would contact her about getting approval for "stuff" like hearing aids, walkers, wheelchairs, medication approval (for specialty drugs), that kind of thing. She loved her job but had to take medical retirement. She dealt with all sorts of clients (she never gave specifics of course) but she did love dealing with the men and women who served.
This is just another avenue of social work.
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Post by ~summer~ on Dec 2, 2014 21:45:15 GMT
I would go into nursing. The pay in social work is much lower.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 21:51:50 GMT
Nursing is something you may want to consider. My friend is a nurse in a remote place. She is now in management but what she did before was OB and before that she worked in an independent medical imaging office (starting IVs and things). Her job now is really varied. She works a LOT of hours but is compensated for it. She is also a childbirth educator and was a licensed lactation consultant.
I have another friend here who works in critical care. She makes a LOT of money. She loves her job. She says she works on her own without much direction (no micromanagement), she has seniority and excellent benefits. She does work a lot of overtime but she also likes to travel to Mexico with her significant other (several times a year...) She also is a marathon runner (well she says she isn't but you know...she runs in distance runs and she loves it). She lives a very good life. She is single though, no dependents other than her dog. She owns her own home in a nice neighbourhood. She told me she was making $95K a year and that is a nice income for where we are.
Just something to think about. There will always be demand for nursing. Even in places that say they are cutting back. I used to work in the Nursing Directorate department of the Ministry of Health in the province. It was a lot of fun. We worked at getting loan payback for new graduates. We also were recruiting nurses from other countries and provinces.
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Post by Leone on Dec 2, 2014 21:54:32 GMT
Nursing school is very difficult to get into at least in Arizona and California. My sister is an LVN which only takes 18 months but makes between $45k and $52k depending where she is working...no benefits tho. She has no trouble getting jobs in Texas and was out of the workforce for twenty years before getting back into it six years ago. The burnout rate for nurses and teachers is very high. At this point, I don't recommend anyone to go into education except if you train to be a school psychologist ( you'll need a doctorate) or speech therapist (need a masters). Both are not on the same salary schedules as teachers. The psychologist is about the only one in a school that can tell the principal to shove it and get away with it. Speech therapists often do contract work and make way more than the normal salary...my friend made $90k last year but no benefits as she didn't want to sign a district contract. My one friend who majored in social work is a secretary. Another friend who got a 5 year dietician degree works in a bookstore.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 2, 2014 22:03:46 GMT
I got an MSW umpteen years ago. I worked in medical social work - first in the neonatal intensive care unit of a major regional hospital, then later in the traumatic head injury unit of an acute rehab hospital. It was stressful, sad work many days. Rewarding... but hard. I would have never been hired for either of those jobs with just a BSW.
I think you are on the right track considering other professions in the medical field though. That field isn't going anywhere and typically pays pretty well.
Good luck. It's hard enough to know what you want to be when you're little and have all the options ahead of you. It's even harder when you find yourself mid-life with twists and turns you never counted on (the death of your husband). You seem like a good person and tough cookie though. You'll figure this out and do just fine.
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Post by pretzels on Dec 2, 2014 22:11:28 GMT
And dental hygiene doesn't pay a lot and it's often part time. What about something like a plumber or an electrician? My brother and father are both electricians and make a decent wage. Not a ton, but not bad either. Both are union, so there is health care as well. But you work less if there a recession... That list looks like a lot of minimum wage jobs. Keep looking. You will find something that clicks. It depends on where you are. The college where I work has a dental hygiene program, and our graduates report rates as high as $50 an hour. It can be very lucrative in larger cities. For physical therapy, you would also need a master's degree.
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