Gummiebears
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Post by Gummiebears on Jul 9, 2022 13:32:26 GMT
Hi All - anyone have an easy way to understand the various Tim Holtz inks and sprays and such and what they do? I’ve got a few and use them shamefully infrequently because I don’t understand when to use one and not the other. Any videos or pages you suggest for basic learning?
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Post by babylou on Jul 9, 2022 14:54:50 GMT
Tim Holtz videos of course. My problem with those is that they are so long! LOL! Also, my local scrapbook store does daily videos on their Facebook and have a couple of their ladies who do a great job of explaining the Tim Holtz products. Look for Memory Bound Scrapbook Store on Facebook. Then look at their videos. Specifically ones from Maggie or Teresa. In fact, right now, and for the last week or so, they have been doing projects and examples based solely on Tim Holtz items and products. So it would be a good time to check them out. They have been doing a lot of explaining of stuff since the 27th of June.
Also, what are your questions? Maybe I can help. Or some of the other great people here!
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Post by GiantsFan on Jul 9, 2022 15:13:40 GMT
Oxide Distress Inks are a dye-pigment fusion. They're opaque and you can layer the colors on top of each other and they won't turn a muddy brown. They blend easily and stamp beautifully. They're not fast drying so you can use them with clear embossing powder. They are not a vibrant as regular Distress Ink and oxidize (gets a white-ish hue or oxidizes) when used with water techniques. Distress Inks are a dye ink and are formulated to use with water. They are translucent and will turn muddy if you mix colors. They are a bit harder to blend, but they have a vibrant color. They're fast drying. I find that they don't stamp well, although others use them for stamping. The color stays when using water for techniques. Distress Spray Stains are kind of a spray version of the inks. Spray your paper (watercolor or similar paper) then spray the inks. They can be layered after drying between colors. Jenn Shurkus has a good class for Distress Inks (regular and oxide) and a class for Distress Sprays. I've taken both classes. Distress Ink class Distress Sprays
I hope this helps.
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scrappyesq
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Post by scrappyesq on Jul 9, 2022 21:52:56 GMT
I was hopping on to mention Jenn Shurkus but @giantsfan beat me to it!
Substantively my only comment is that oxides are a dream to blend with. If you are curious about that and trying a variety of colors together Kristina Werner had some great videos on her YT.
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Gummiebears
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Post by Gummiebears on Jul 10, 2022 13:58:06 GMT
Tim Holtz videos of course. My problem with those is that they are so long! LOL! Also, my local scrapbook store does daily videos on their Facebook and have a couple of their ladies who do a great job of explaining the Tim Holtz products. Look for Memory Bound Scrapbook Store on Facebook. Then look at their videos. Specifically ones from Maggie or Teresa. In fact, right now, and for the last week or so, they have been doing projects and examples based solely on Tim Holtz items and products. So it would be a good time to check them out. They have been doing a lot of explaining of stuff since the 27th of June. Also, what are your questions? Maybe I can help. Or some of the other great people here! YES to the length of the TH videos! I just got overwhelmed. Thanks very much for the LSS recommendation, I will give them a look. No specific questions yet but thank you! 🙂
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Post by Gummiebears on Jul 10, 2022 13:59:30 GMT
Oxide Distress Inks are a dye-pigment fusion. They're opaque and you can layer the colors on top of each other and they won't turn a muddy brown. They blend easily and stamp beautifully. They're not fast drying so you can use them with clear embossing powder. They are not a vibrant as regular Distress Ink and oxidize (gets a white-ish hue or oxidizes) when used with water techniques. Distress Inks are a dye ink and are formulated to use with water. They are translucent and will turn muddy if you mix colors. They are a bit harder to blend, but they have a vibrant color. They're fast drying. I find that they don't stamp well, although others use them for stamping. The color stays when using water for techniques. Distress Spray Stains are kind of a spray version of the inks. Spray your paper (watercolor or similar paper) then spray the inks. They can be layered after drying between colors. Jenn Shurkus has a good class for Distress Inks (regular and oxide) and a class for Distress Sprays. I've taken both classes. Distress Ink class Distress Sprays
I hope this helps. This is a great explanation, thank you! I will try out the things I have and see what happens, I’m guessing that will be the best way to learn. Any particular paper you recommend?
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Post by Gummiebears on Jul 10, 2022 14:00:20 GMT
I was hopping on to mention Jenn Shurkus but @giantsfan beat me to it! Substantively my only comment is that oxides are a dream to blend with. If you are curious about that and trying a variety of colors together Kristina Werner had some great videos on her YT. Thank you! Will look for those videos on blending on YT.
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Post by babylou on Jul 10, 2022 14:42:29 GMT
Oxide Distress Inks are a dye-pigment fusion. They're opaque and you can layer the colors on top of each other and they won't turn a muddy brown. They blend easily and stamp beautifully. They're not fast drying so you can use them with clear embossing powder. They are not a vibrant as regular Distress Ink and oxidize (gets a white-ish hue or oxidizes) when used with water techniques. Distress Inks are a dye ink and are formulated to use with water. They are translucent and will turn muddy if you mix colors. They are a bit harder to blend, but they have a vibrant color. They're fast drying. I find that they don't stamp well, although others use them for stamping. The color stays when using water for techniques. Distress Spray Stains are kind of a spray version of the inks. Spray your paper (watercolor or similar paper) then spray the inks. They can be layered after drying between colors. Jenn Shurkus has a good class for Distress Inks (regular and oxide) and a class for Distress Sprays. I've taken both classes. Distress Ink class Distress Sprays
I hope this helps. This is a great explanation, thank you! I will try out the things I have and see what happens, I’m guessing that will be the best way to learn. Any particular paper you recommend? If you doing really wet techniques with the products, a lot of people recommend or prefer to use watercolor paper-usually Tim Holtz Distress watercolor paper. Or Distress heavy cardstock. These are textured papers though. Even on the smooth side they are a little textured. If I'm just doing an ink blending technique, I often use a good heavy smooth cardstock and have had no trouble. I'm talking like Neenah 110 lb or similar good cardstock. JMO.
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Post by GiantsFan on Jul 10, 2022 14:58:54 GMT
Oxide Distress Inks are a dye-pigment fusion. They're opaque and you can layer the colors on top of each other and they won't turn a muddy brown. They blend easily and stamp beautifully. They're not fast drying so you can use them with clear embossing powder. They are not a vibrant as regular Distress Ink and oxidize (gets a white-ish hue or oxidizes) when used with water techniques. Distress Inks are a dye ink and are formulated to use with water. They are translucent and will turn muddy if you mix colors. They are a bit harder to blend, but they have a vibrant color. They're fast drying. I find that they don't stamp well, although others use them for stamping. The color stays when using water for techniques. Distress Spray Stains are kind of a spray version of the inks. Spray your paper (watercolor or similar paper) then spray the inks. They can be layered after drying between colors. Jenn Shurkus has a good class for Distress Inks (regular and oxide) and a class for Distress Sprays. I've taken both classes. Distress Ink class Distress Sprays
I hope this helps. This is a great explanation, thank you! I will try out the things I have and see what happens, I’m guessing that will be the best way to learn. Any particular paper you recommend? I prefer to use TH Distress Heavystock (yes, I was Jenn-abled!). It has a smooth surface. TH Distress Watercolor paper is good too, but it has texture. For practicing and playing use some cheapy Canson Coldpress Watercolor. Or even Bristol Smooth.
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Post by GiantsFan on Jul 10, 2022 15:00:25 GMT
And remember, it's just paper and ink. Play around and if you don't like it toss it.
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Post by songbird on Jul 11, 2022 5:16:33 GMT
Also, if you’re using distress paint, it’s the only distress product that is not water reactive once it’s dry.
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Post by hoopsfn on Jul 11, 2022 15:08:57 GMT
Gummiebears, I've just started buying a few Distress Oxide inks and I'm confused about all the differences and the variety of products. Thanks to everyone above with their answers. Thanks to scrappyesq on another thread, I have watched a couple of Jenn Shurkus videos and she's so good with it all. I'm not sure I'll ever venture into all the mixed media stuff, but it sure is pretty and fun to watch. Guess that makes me a mixed media peeper.
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Post by caangel on Jul 11, 2022 21:11:00 GMT
Gummiebears, I've just started buying a few Distress Oxide inks and I'm confused about all the differences and the variety of products. Thanks to everyone above with their answers. Thanks to scrappyesq on another thread, I have watched a couple of Jenn Shurkus videos and she's so good with it all. I'm not sure I'll ever venture into all the mixed media stuff, but it sure is pretty and fun to watch. Guess that makes me a mixed media peeper. If you have time for longer videos I watch Shimelle's YouTube Live Best of Both World's Kit videos. She uses DOs frequently in her scrapping and does a good job explaining hows and whys as she is creating. Her videos are long but I like to have them on when I'm cleaning and doing chores. Something to make me want to do the dishes.
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Post by craftgranny on Jul 11, 2022 22:19:16 GMT
@gummiebears there is a QA video from TIM that uses both Distress Inks and Distress Oxides. Call me crazy, but I like to get my information straight from the source. Yes, they are long but it's the same if you took an in person class. What's nice is that on Youtube you can start and stop and go back to different techniques. Oxides whether in the pad of spray are a hybrid fusion of ink and pigment. Which means they are opaque and great for layering. When water is applied, you get an oxidization look that is creamy dreamy to quote Tim. Distress Inks are a water reactive dye ink with vibrant color and are translucent. You can layer both of these types of inks together whether it is a spray or ink pad form. When blending, you want a smooth card surface. Distress Heavy Stock is formulated for Distress Inks and Oxides and also Neenah Solar Crest is good for blending as well. Here is the video for the Sprays, it's worth watching. Distress Spray Stains - link
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Post by hoopsfn on Jul 12, 2022 2:18:44 GMT
caangel, I do watch some of Shimelle's videos; she's the reason I have started my small collection of Distress Oxides. I've always liked her videos, esp. the Glitter Girl ones. But I have to admit, they have never made me want to wash the dishes!
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Post by refugeepea on Jul 12, 2022 16:12:13 GMT
I wish I had understood the inks better before I bought a bunch of mini cube ink pads that are distress ink. I thought I did! Why would they make them if they aren't meant to be used for stamping? I guess I don't know enough mixed media techniques.
Anyway, I'll continue to use them to stamp images because I don't want to waste my money. Honestly, the images have turned out fine so far.
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