SuPeaNatural
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Post by SuPeaNatural on Jul 26, 2022 9:44:13 GMT
If the person telling me about the death wants to divulge the cause, they will. But I'd never ask, I just give them my condolences.
SharlaG, as to whether to answer or not - I'd just delete her message and not reply.
ETA: as to people saying to the grieving family members things like "they're in a better place now" - I'd never say that to anyone who has just someone special. But I'm really surprised at how many of those family members say exactly that to me. So if they feel that way, and it helps them deal with things, I just agree with them.
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Post by mikklynn on Jul 26, 2022 12:53:39 GMT
It's rude and tacky to ask.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 26, 2022 14:29:23 GMT
This is one of those I would hope that I would not, but wonder if in conversation with someone it would pop-out before I could filter it. Like if I just heard the news a “oh my gosh, I am so so sorry. What happened?” I definitely would not in a written conversation/message where I could think things through.
I am always curious, as I think it is human nature, and find that it becomes more of a conversation amongst others. We saw a death notice for one of brother’s classmates the other day. And after the conversation we had with each other of kind of shock, wow, that is so sad. We both wondered how she had passed. The listed place to contribution to in their memory was a humane society. We were not curious because of anything judgmental but just because it was hard to believe. He had not talked to her in almost 30 years, and I only knew of her. But it was still a sad shock and immediate what happened response.
My very best friend of 30 something years passed suddenly in 2019. We were always together and worked together at the same company. She was as close as a sister to me and her family was my family and my family was hers. If you had any interaction with one of us you had it with with both. I still struggle with her passing every single day and miss her every single day. If I met someone that we we both worked with 25 years ago, the first thing they would ask about was how is lz. She was the more gregarious of us and the one that really drew people in. It would surprise me if I just said she passed away and they did not ask oh my gosh what happened. Even if they haven’t talked to her in 10 years. I also wonder if it comes from growing up in a smallish town? Word always got around.
So my answer is it is rude to ask and I really hope I never would, especially in a situation where it made some close uncomfortable. But I would want to know because it would help me process. And I can feel real sorrow/sadness for the death of someone that I knew from 25 years ago or someone who I only knew of. Obviously not to the depths of loved ones, but I also have empathy and sympathy for what they are going through.
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Post by tealpaperowl on Jul 26, 2022 15:00:57 GMT
I'm always curious and think it's natural curiosity to wonder how someone died.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 26, 2022 15:02:36 GMT
Death affects everyone so differently. I think it is always wise to use caution and compassion and let the person grieving lead the way. Some people share a lot and other share very little. Both are perfectly okay. It is 100% human nature to be curious. I think our brains are just wired to be curious about things we don't understand or fear, and sometimes we just crave closure.
I think it was perfectly okay for that person to text the OP, but they should have offered their condolences and maybe shared a brief memory of the deceased that might have brought comfort. If Sharlag would have wanted to respond to that, then that would have been more appropriate. She should never have asked for the information.
Dealing with death and grief is so personal. We all come from such direct backgrounds that it is always wise to do what might comfort the grieving and not make it worse.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 26, 2022 15:22:54 GMT
It’s a horrible thing to ask. Do I get curious? Yes. Have I ever asked? No. I would never, it’s an if they want to share they will type of thing. Well, unless, you consider when my BIL called to tell me my sister was dead and I did ask what happened? why? How? Because it was unexpected and abrupt. She was killed, he told me how. But that is literally the only time in that first notification phone call. I have never ever asked for any further details from him or my nieces & nephew. If they want to tell me they will. hop2, I'm so very sorry. In this case I think that you had every right to know. This was your sister and our sisters are a part of us.
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Post by chances on Jul 26, 2022 15:32:58 GMT
It’s human nature, I think. We all only share two things as humans, birth and death. My 24 year old Niece died from the flu. I completely understood the questions, especially because she was so young. The more annoying though, were those who knew she was a Type 1 diabetic. My DD is also, and making giant leaps in logic that meant my DD was next. That’s where curiosity stopped and logical fallacies took hold, all said right in front of me, the Aunt who lost a beloved Niece and Mom of the supposed next victim. People are just weird sometimes What the actual fuck? I’m sorry for your nieces death and the inappropriate comments about your child.
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Post by jenjie on Jul 26, 2022 15:51:11 GMT
It’s a horrible thing to ask. Do I get curious? Yes. Have I ever asked? No. I would never, it’s an if they want to share they will type of thing. Well, unless, you consider when my BIL called to tell me my sister was dead and I did ask what happened? why? How? Because it was unexpected and abrupt. She was killed, he told me how. But that is literally the only time in that first notification phone call. I have never ever asked for any further details from him or my nieces & nephew. If they want to tell me they will. hop2, I'm so very sorry. In this case I think that you had every right to know. This was your sister and our sisters are a part of us. Absolutely. I’m so very sorry hop2. And yes it’s very different when it’s your family or even close friend who is currently active in their life vs some random person.
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Post by melanell on Jul 27, 2022 15:00:31 GMT
I think sometimes, particularly when the person is speaking to you in person, the question can be linked to the person trying to extend sympathy to the loved one. They're trying to determine was this person they are speaking to shocked by this person's passing, or was there a prolonged care-giving period, etc. They may be trying to tailor their responses to the situation. I think, as humans as a whole generic group, we kind of suck at discussing death. And many of us have "go to" responses in our minds that we go with almost automatically when we find out someone has passed away. Knowing what happened to the person who died can allow us to move form those generic words/phrases to something more specific to the situation. I mean, you meet up with an old friend you haven't seen in awhile (and these past years, a lot more people find themselves accidentally in the "I haven't seen you in ages!" category) and hear that a loved one of theirs has died, and the last thing you want is for your brain to autodial a wrong response, kwim? You don't want to say "Oh my gosh, what a shock that must have been!" only for them to tell you the person was ill for 6 months, kwim? Or for you to guess that it had to do with a disorder or problem that you know the person had, only to be informed it had nothing to do with that. I'm not saying you should run around willy nilly asking people the causes of death for their loved ones. I'm just trying to say that sometimes people's brains immediately fog up when faced with discussing death and they say things that can be painful or annoying or upsetting, even while trying to do the exact opposite. Honestly, I think one of the reasons many obituaries do include the cause of death (even if it's done in a generic way, such as to say "illness" or "prolonged illness") is to try to prevent loved ones from being hit with this very question. Unfortuantely, when the cause is left out, I think it can actually make some people even more curious----especially if they are the type to jump to the worst or most extreme conclusions. But, to get back to the OP, I'm sorry, sharlag , that you were hit so unexpectedly with someone asking you that---especially when it was someone you don't even know!! Hugs to you!
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Post by auntkelly on Jul 27, 2022 18:21:31 GMT
I think it was very tacky and unfeeling for a stranger to ask you how someone you loved died.
People can be so callous and uncaring. My father died suddenly when I was three. It was, and still is, the most painful thing that ever happened to me. I still remember being about seven years' old and sitting in the backseat of a car w/ my best friend while her mother drove. Out of the blue, her mom asked me if I had any memories of my father. Even at seven years' old, I knew it was completely inappropriate for an adult to ask a kid an intimate question like that when they are just being nosy. I just evaded the question by giving a very vague answer.
That incident occurred about fifty years' ago, but I remember it so well. I'd like to go back to my seven year old self and tell her "you don't have to be polite to some nosy woman. She is being cruel and she thinks because you are a kid, you won't realize the question is intrusive and inappropriate. She is not being a nice person at the moment."
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Post by paget on Jul 27, 2022 18:49:49 GMT
Unfortuantely, when the cause is left out, I think it can actually make some people even more curious----especially if they are the type to jump to the worst or most extreme conclusions. For me, this is one of the reasons it can be such an Inappropriate question. I don’t know how to bold part of a quote on my phone - but the “worst or most extreme conclusions” — is a judgment about how the person died. I don’t need that or want to deal with it from someone that is asking for their own curiosity. If they were an important person to me or my dd who died, they would already know. People can try to defend this question all they want. But some people, including myself, find it completely rude, insensitive, and potentially hard to deal with where ever this encounter is happening. Like running into me at the grocery store- maybe sharing intimate, painful details about the worst thing that ever happened to me is NOT what I want to do right then (or maybe ever). I feel confident if someone wants you to know or wants to talk about how their loved one died they will share it with you without you prying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2022 19:18:41 GMT
I had no idea it was “rude and tacky” to ask, but based on the number of peas using those words repeatedly in response, I accept that it is.
Gosh, I hope I’ve never asked anyone this question. Personally, I wouldn’t be at all offended if someone asked me. I just wouldn’t answer if I didn’t want to discuss it.
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Post by melanell on Jul 27, 2022 21:49:41 GMT
Unfortuantely, when the cause is left out, I think it can actually make some people even more curious----especially if they are the type to jump to the worst or most extreme conclusions. For me, this is one of the reasons it can be such an Inappropriate question. I don’t know how to bold part of a quote on my phone - but the “worst or most extreme conclusions” — is a judgment about how the person died. I don’t need that or want to deal with it from someone that is asking for their own curiosity. If they were an important person to me or my dd who died, they would already know. People can try to defend this question all they want. But some people, including myself, find it completely rude, insensitive, and potentially hard to deal with where ever this encounter is happening. Like running into me at the grocery store- maybe sharing intimate, painful details about the worst thing that ever happened to me is NOT what I want to do right then (or maybe ever). I feel confident if someone wants you to know or wants to talk about how their loved one died they will share it with you without you prying. I totally understand. I wasn't saying it was right. I was just sharing some of my thoughts on why people have a tendency to sometimes blurt out that question without stopping to consider if the person they are asking will be made to feel badly upon hearing it.
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Post by calgaryscrapper on Aug 12, 2022 2:19:41 GMT
We went to a Memorial Service today. Some of us shared memories of our friend that passed away. His wife, Daughter, Son in law and Grandchildren were also there. Afterwards, a cousin of his from out of town asked me what he passed away from and I then thought about this thread. I do know about his health issues but my response was “he had not been well for a while”.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Aug 12, 2022 7:03:13 GMT
Young man I’ve known since he was 5 passed this year. I’d lost touch with him, but still see his older brother frequently.
I wanted to send the brother a card, so I messaged someone who would know, and learned that it was Covid. Sent the card.
When I next saw our friend, he thanked me for the card, and shared quite a bit of the very sad story.
I hadn’t really thought that much about it being rude to ask, and yet I instinctively knew to find out another way. And yes, people will tell you if they want to, if they feel close enough to you, as my young friend did.
So my answer is it’s rude sometimes, and sometimes it isn’t. There are so many variables, including how the asker comes across, gossipy or compassionate ? I do agree that if I learn that someone I knew has been dead for awhile, my first thought is, “what happened?”
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