scrapngranny
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Post by scrapngranny on Aug 4, 2022 17:11:21 GMT
I’m so sorry for your pain. There is nothing you could have done differently, you aren’t to blame, no one is. If you could find a grief group it might help. Hugs.
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Post by Lexica on Aug 4, 2022 17:20:47 GMT
My heart bleeds for you. I once faced losing my son to cancer when he was 9. He is my only child, and I was sure I would not be able to go on without him. I talked with my mom about it and she assured me that my son would not want me to consider what she knew I was considering.
I was spared having to make that choice as cancer did not win. I haven’t been able to even think about what I might have chosen if it did.
I have no words that will lessen your pain. I doubt those words exist. I just want to say you are in my prayers and I am so very sorry.
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Post by groovy on Aug 4, 2022 18:07:49 GMT
I’m so, so sorry for your loss. You deserve the opportunity to talk about this with a grief counselor. It’s often a hard first step to take, but so worth it. In person and tele- health options are available. Take care of yourself. 💛
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 18:10:12 GMT
I have no words…I cannot imagine your grief.
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Post by pmm on Aug 4, 2022 18:16:23 GMT
Losing a child is never easy and words just aren't adequate.
I'm going to also suggest grief counseling. After my mom passed, I went through private counseling with my local hospice. It was very helpful to me.
Big hugs and shoulder to cry on for you.
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Rhondito
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 4, 2022 18:20:04 GMT
I am so incredibly sorry for the loss of your son. I am taking a class called Griefshare. It is offered in churches around the country. It has interviews with people who have suffered all kinds of losses. What people say to them, how they feel about their losses, how they are trying to move on. It also has psychologists, who have suffered losses and talk about what they and others have gone through in their lives. I have found for myself, that the first year I was in shock and the second year, became more of a reality of what the rest of my life was going to be like with my losses. The second, third and fourth years were actually harder for me than the first year. But I can tell you going through this program has really helped me. I hope that you can either find a grief counselor or a group that you can join, like Griefshare to help you. Again, I am so sorry that you are suffering and are in so much pain. Huge hugs and prayers to you. I highly recommend this! Really Red I am just so sorry about the loss of your son. I know you don’t want to show your girls how filled with grief you are but maybe you could show them some of it. They may be grieving as hard as you and are keeping it in because they don’t want to upset you. It does sound like you were able to have some conversations with your son before he passed. I know that gave me great comfort as my father was dying. I urge you to seek out some counseling specifically someone who is trained in grief counseling. It has helped me a lot over the past couple of months dealing with the loss of my dad and then my great nephew shortly after he was born in 2020 I cannot recommend this enough! Griefshare is a wonderful program and it will help you immensely!
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Post by Really Red on Aug 4, 2022 18:26:11 GMT
You are in my thoughts and prayers. Unfortunately, I know the pain and sadness you are experiencing. I lost my son 11 years ago. I am here if you want to talk. Cindy cindytred I am so so sorry. For other of you who have lost a child, know that my heart is with you, too. I just read through the first page of your wonderful responses. I woke up with a massive headache and a swollen face, but I did feel better. I had a grief therapist for about 6 mos and he was incredible, but he retired and the two I've tried since don't work for me. I'll try again, but it's hard. Compassionate Friends in my neck of the woods is very, very religious. One of my acquaintances recommended it but the brochure alone was enough to set me over the edge. I wonder if I might find an online group that would work. I will look into it. I think this kind of group is one that might help me. Griefshare is (I believe) for people who suffered any kind of loss. I think I'm not yet in a place where I can talk about someone relating the loss of their 98yo mother to my son. My neighbor already does that. I miss my mother every single day, and I absolutely believe that any loss is awful and hard and terrible, but it is not the same thing and I think I need to be able to relate right now. But I will keep that in mind. I am so lucky to have good friends who watch out for me, but putting too much on their plate makes them feel helpless as well. They already do enough. I really REALLY appreciate just being able to just dump all over you. It made me feel better to write it all out last night. When I'm done with work, I'll read the rest. Thank you
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Post by christine58 on Aug 4, 2022 18:35:27 GMT
Really Red. I bet you can find something online. And you’re right grief share is for any kind of loss.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Aug 4, 2022 18:41:50 GMT
I am so sorry.
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moodyblue
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Post by moodyblue on Aug 4, 2022 18:49:53 GMT
ETA - First thing, you are totally normal and everything you are feeling is okay. There is nothing wrong with you; you are grieving, and you want to protect your daughters and their grief. This is the kind of loss that changes you and affects you forever.
To me, "moving on" somehow implies that you leave someone or something behind, and that isn’t your goal. "Moving forward" is a better way to think of it. You carry your grief and your love along with you. It is the term used in some of the newer grief groups and writing.
I haven’t lost a child, though a good friend of mine lost her daughter to leukemia at age 20. We freely talk about Becky, and I think that’s important.
My husband died 3.5 years ago. I read the book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK by Megan Devine and I found it really good. I also did her writing program online, Writing Your Grief. She runs it several times a year. There were several people in my “group” who had lost children. Some people wrote and posted every day for the 30 days and some just read or wrote but didn’t choose to post in the private group.
I also did some grief groups through the hospice. In one of those there were just three of us, all widows. Both of them had lost their husbands several months before mine died, and they were both not quite to the year mark and felt they were going backwards. We bonded and have been in touch since. Once COVID restrictions loosened and we were all vaccinated, we resumed getting together once a month. We spend the whole day together, talking and eating. We don’t talk all the time about our losses and grief, but we can talk about anything and that is probably the biggest help to me. We are all feeling "ready" to see each other by the time the next monthly date comes up. We can talk about our husbands and say whatever we need to and not feel like we are being judged or having someone jump to conclusions like complicated grief or depression or being stuck or not wanting to enjoy life.
I personally found year two as difficult or more so than the first year. Yes, reality sets in and you realize what it all means and the permanence of this devastating change. I describe my feeling as profound sadness. Sometimes it is one of despair. That does NOT mean that I can’t laugh and do things and enjoy experiences. You can feel more than one thing at a time - and it’s okay.
Finding "your people" - the ones who get it, the ones who won’t judge or avoid mentioning your son - that’s the best thing I can recommend for helping you through life.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 4, 2022 19:05:06 GMT
I wish I had an answer for you but I don’t. I am just so very sorry. Much love and many hugs coming your way.
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Post by gillyp on Aug 4, 2022 19:07:32 GMT
Really Red, if you are struggling to find a group with experiences close to your own, maybe it would be worth while asking the Funeral Home if they have any contact details or suggestions?
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DEX
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Post by DEX on Aug 4, 2022 19:20:30 GMT
I usually don't respond to grief threads because frankly, I don't know what to say. When I read your thread however, the grief stood out to me so much that I felt moved to respond. I am sure my response will be inadequate. I feel your grief is palpable. Your words are eloquent in their description of how lost you feel. Spongemom Scrappants said it much better than I could. Your son would never have wanted you to be so grief stricken that you were stuck in time. Please celebrate who he was and rejoice in that you were given the opportunity to be his Mom. There is no other person on earth who can claim that title. Time will help you heal. In the meantime, please reach out for help through a grief support group or a personal therapist. Your son would want you to move on. He would not want you to suffer in any way. That is love. He loved you and he wouldn't want his death to bring you so much grief.
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Aug 4, 2022 19:25:07 GMT
Sending big hugs. I cannot even imagine the grief you’re going through and I hope you can find some peace.
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Anita
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Post by Anita on Aug 4, 2022 19:28:57 GMT
I'm so very sorry. I really can't even imagine that level of grief. We are sending you such big hugs.
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on Aug 4, 2022 19:37:55 GMT
You are in my thoughts and prayers. Unfortunately, I know the pain and sadness you are experiencing. I lost my son 11 years ago. I am here if you want to talk. Cindy cindytred I am so so sorry. For other of you who have lost a child, know that my heart is with you, too. I just read through the first page of your wonderful responses. I woke up with a massive headache and a swollen face, but I did feel better. I had a grief therapist for about 6 mos and he was incredible, but he retired and the two I've tried since don't work for me. I'll try again, but it's hard. Compassionate Friends in my neck of the woods is very, very religious. One of my acquaintances recommended it but the brochure alone was enough to set me over the edge. I wonder if I might find an online group that would work. I will look into it. I think this kind of group is one that might help me. Griefshare is (I believe) for people who suffered any kind of loss. I think I'm not yet in a place where I can talk about someone relating the loss of their 98yo mother to my son. My neighbor already does that. I miss my mother every single day, and I absolutely believe that any loss is awful and hard and terrible, but it is not the same thing and I think I need to be able to relate right now. But I will keep that in mind. I am so lucky to have good friends who watch out for me, but putting too much on their plate makes them feel helpless as well. They already do enough. I really REALLY appreciate just being able to just dump all over you. It made me feel better to write it all out last night. When I'm done with work, I'll read the rest. Thank you If you are looking for support that is more secular, you may want to join a FB group called Grief Beyond Belief that is geared toward atheists and agnostics. It has been a great source of support for me. I joined after my mother died, but there are many bereaved parents in this group, too. I believe there may also be an offshoot group for bereaved parents of older children. My heart goes out to you and all of our peas who have experienced this unfathomable tragedy.
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Post by chlerbie on Aug 4, 2022 19:59:39 GMT
I'm so sorry and can't imagine what you're going through. I hope that you can reach out to others who understand, whether it be a friend, a therapist or a group. I think you may find that invaluable.
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Post by marysue63 on Aug 4, 2022 20:22:41 GMT
I can't imagine the pain you are going through. I'm so very sorry.
One thing I've learned about grief is that it never goes away, BUT, you can learn to live with it. I'm going to echo what others have said and say that 'moving on' isn't how it should be phrased. You are never going to move on from your grief, you'll just learn to live in conjunction with it. Easier said than done, I know, but for me, just allowing myself to be with my grief made it easier to cope.
Much love to you!
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ddly
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Post by ddly on Aug 4, 2022 21:27:51 GMT
I’m so sorry!
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Post by brynn on Aug 5, 2022 0:58:05 GMT
My words are inadequate, but I am so sorry.
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Post by lavawalker1 on Aug 5, 2022 1:29:44 GMT
I’m so very sorry, and have few words to offer, but I’m praying for you and your daughters.
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 5, 2022 1:57:09 GMT
I cannot show my girls the depth of my sadness. They only have me and I know they are terrified for me. I pretend all the time around them because they are SO sad. We talk about our sadness, but if they saw how sad I was right now, I think it would terrify them. Or it terrifies them because they do know how sad you are and feel helpless to ease your pain. I'm so sorry. Making it through your DS's birthday, your birthday and the anniversary of his death so quickly, one after the other gives you no room to breath and stand again. Is there any way you can be with one of your daughters next month? Or have them be with you?
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hutchfan
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Post by hutchfan on Aug 5, 2022 2:25:19 GMT
I am sending you hugs and you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
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Post by quietgirl on Aug 5, 2022 2:41:54 GMT
I just wanted to say how sorry I am for your loss.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Aug 5, 2022 2:46:50 GMT
My Mum and Dad went through a lot of confusion when my sister died. It was difficult but we got through it one day at a time and we prayed for good days. We got them. You will get them. I don’t know your grief timeline but mine was all over the place. I wish you better days.
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MaryMary
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Post by MaryMary on Aug 5, 2022 2:48:40 GMT
I am so sorry. No advice, just hugs.
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 5, 2022 2:51:54 GMT
I am so sorry about the loss of your son and how you are feeling. I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child. I saw my parents go through it when my 16yo sister died. All I can say is that there will come a time when you will be able to talk about your son with your daughters and other people, without that crushing despair and sadness. It will take a long time, and your loss is still so recent.
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nursema
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Post by nursema on Aug 5, 2022 8:22:52 GMT
I am so very sorry for your loss and the despair you are experiencing. I would not wish such pain on my worst enemy. I hope you are able to find comfort and peace soon, as you continue to put one foot in front of the other.
Warmest of hugs to you.
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Post by shescrafty on Aug 5, 2022 10:31:51 GMT
Tonight I had a glass of wine with my daughter. A fly had been in my house for a day or so annoying me and apparently it decided its final resting place was - you know it - my glass of wine. It was disgusting and funny and then I just lost it. I couldn't even focus. It's been 11 months since I lost my son and I just feel like I cannot handle it anymore. I am so SO sad. He is the first thing I think of in the morning and the last thing I think of at night. Every minute of every day I spend trying not to think of what I should have done differently. It doesn't matter what I would say to anyone in my position or how much my son and I discussed this; I feel responsible. His birthday was 2 weeks ago and it was the first without him. I watched him sing "You are my sunshine" to me on a video when he was 3yo and he was so fresh and sweet and I just don't know how to go on. I cannot show my girls the depth of my sadness. They only have me and I know they are terrified for me. I pretend all the time around them because they are SO sad. We talk about our sadness, but if they saw how sad I was right now, I think it would terrify them. I am all over the place. I have one of my girls with me (who came for his bday so I wouldn't be alone), but it is hard that they are in Europe and I am in the US. I can't be there because I work for a contractor for the government and we're not allowed to work in Europe. I just want my girls with me all the time and that isn't healthy for any of us. I was never sad before this. Just never. Not in the worst of my divorce or the aftermath. Not when I had to take care of my ex. Nothing prepared me for the depth of grief of losing a child. There's nothing to add. I just can't say this to my family or friends because they are so sad for me and feel so helpless (as would I in their place). I don't want to make them feel worse. I just have to get it out. Not many people can say they know exactly how you feel, but I do think I have felt exactly like you have. I used used to be a happy person with times of sadness, but when my daughter died I became a sad person with moments of happiness mixed in. 6 1/2 years later I am coping but I know I will never be whole again. When Covid hit, my depression and anxiety spiraled out of control. PTSD from being in the hospital and seeing her on a ventilator and suffering for so long came flooding back and I almost could not function. I finally went back to the doctor (which I had avoided since 2016!) and switched to a new one who has been wonderful. She put me in an anti-depressant and it was a game changer for me. I wish I had done it sooner. There is nothing in the world as awful as having your child die. I am so sorry you are walking this road. Therapy through hospice and group did not work for me, but meds did. I am so sorry and wish I could give you magic words that would help, but there simply aren’t any. Much love to you right now. I know the despair you are feeling and I wish I could take some of it from you. Many hugs to you.
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Nanner
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Post by Nanner on Aug 5, 2022 12:26:23 GMT
I am so sorry. I can't even imagine. I wish you strength and peace.
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