pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Aug 16, 2022 14:35:46 GMT
So I've gone overboard with the Spellbinders die sets in the last few months. All of the projects look awesome but the die sets are very intimidating. There are soooooo many dies that cut sooooo many little pieces. A few of the sets I have are the Be Bold Blooms, Holiday Blooms, Wreath Builder, Mailbox and Sled. There are so many tiny dies! For those of you who have some of these sets, what was your methodology for using them? Did you just sit down and die cut your heart out with random colors? Did you have a project in mind and cut specifically for that? It's a bit overwhelming and I'm honestly not sure how to start. I'd love to hear the method to your madness.
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Post by Ryann on Aug 16, 2022 14:42:58 GMT
I start with a color palette, then run through all the dies on one sheet of 8.5x11 cardstock until it is all used up. As it gets smaller, I cut away the tiny pieces that can't be used anymore and start bringing in the second color, etc. I typically only do 1 or 2 of the "big" dies in each color (the sled, the mailbox, etc), with the most of space taken up for the smaller bits as you tend to use several on each card/project.
I learned quickly that trying to do exactly what I need for a single card takes way too long. I always underestimated how many floral bits I need and ended up having to cut more (and more).
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 16, 2022 15:33:58 GMT
First I move my Gemini Jr right next to me…I know I’m going to be settling in for a nice long die cutting session.
Then I pick a color palette. I start with the larger pieces and work my way down. I do the math to figure out how many of each piece I want. Say I need 9 strawberries, three medium white flowers and 7 leaves in two different colors/styles. I then trim my papers and each go thru the machine and I include as many as I can. I know near the end, I’ll have a couple passes with maybe only one of the images.
I have several shallow stackable trays from Target I use to organize my cut pieces.
I keep the leftover scraps until the card is done, in case I need a couple additional pieces.
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Post by MichyM on Aug 16, 2022 18:06:12 GMT
pinklady, I hope you don't mind if I add a question. This seems like a good thread to do it. When y'all are die cutting and stamping for multiple cards. Do you make a template for the die shapes (ala Jennifer McGuire), die cut them first, and then stamp them using your stamping platform and the template? Or do you stamp first, and then tape the die to the stamped images down and then run them through your machine? I will add that I've been staying away from most Spellbinders dies most recently after realizing how fussy all those little pieces can be Love most of what they design tho!
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Post by lindas on Aug 16, 2022 18:31:35 GMT
Some of those Spellbinders set get really detailed but that’s why I like them. I cut what I need per project. If I have some leftovers I save them in a 4”x6” photo box which I usually forget to check when I start another card.
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Post by lindas on Aug 16, 2022 18:37:45 GMT
pinklady , I hope you don't mind if I add a question. This seems like a good thread to do it. When y'all are die cutting and stamping for multiple cards. Do you make a template for the die shapes (ala Jennifer McGuire), die cut them first, and then stamp them using your stamping platform and the template? Or do you stamp first, and then tape the die to the stamped images down and then run them through your machine? I will add that I've been staying away from most Spellbinders dies most recently after realizing how fussy all those little pieces can be Love most of what they design tho! I’ve done it both ways but I prefer the template way. I think it’s easier to line the stamp up since they’re clear and you can see exactly where it’s stamping. When I stamp first then cut I always seem to be just a bit off.
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Post by joblackford on Aug 16, 2022 22:36:56 GMT
Ah, thank you for reminding me why I don't care for those kinds of die sets! I am not a planner and I don't have patience for small details most of the time. If I ever have the guts to tackle the fiddliest Christmas tree scene set I have I will come back here for everyone's advice though!
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Post by azcrafty on Aug 17, 2022 0:36:53 GMT
pinklady I do some cutting sometimes and just use leftover cs. I have multiple flower and foliage sets and usually I just put as much as I can to cut it at once. When I have a good amount I put them together. When I have a specific project in mind I do the same but with a color palette. And sometimes I diecut only white paper and using my alcohol markers I color them. 《- I do this a lot. MichyM I use the template method if I do a lot of stamping. I have a Gemini so I can diecut 2 cs at the same time so less work.
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Post by scrapnnana on Aug 17, 2022 0:41:16 GMT
Spellbinders aren’t the only company that makes sets with multiple tiny dies. Queen & Co. sometimes does that, too, and like you, pinklady , I have bought a lot of such sets. I no longer have a Spellbinders sub, but I still manage to buy a lot of these types of die sets. I cut the dies all apart into individual dies if they are grouped together. When cutting, I group together the dies that I want to cut from the same color. You can group them with removable tape. Scotch removable tape works the best for me. I have used Washi, but Scotch removable is better. I cut only as many as I am going to use right away. The smaller dies, even when grouped, can often just be cut from scraps. As for the question that MichyM posed, when I have matching stamps and dies, I prefer to cut first, stamp second., especially if I am making multiples of the same card.
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Post by Ryann on Aug 17, 2022 1:23:17 GMT
MichyM I cut first, then stamp.
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Post by Embri on Aug 17, 2022 11:05:04 GMT
I looove tiny dies. I love paper piecing and build up sets and all that wonderful shape-y goodness. My usual methodology is to figure out what I'm making, batch cut the parts and stash each pile of bits that make one thing in a small clear bag. Dollar store sells a variety of tiny poly zip bags that work great for this. Since I Copic colour most of my stuff, it's all cut from white.
When I'm not using white I'll first check my scraps book for any leftover bits of the colour I want, if there's none I'll grab a new sheet. Otherwise it's just a case of puzzling the dies into the piece of paper in the most efficient way possible. It hurts my soul the way I see most demonstrators die cut their cardstock, just plunking one die in the middle of a piece of paper. I even keep any miscuts or scraps to be cut down again with small dies. Only the most useless of skeletal scraps winds up in the recycling bin. For things where you use a lot / a variable amount in a given project, like leaves, small flowers, banners, etc. I'll just cut as many as I can from whatever paper I'm using, bag em' up and store them in trading card pockets in a binder for later use. Same with any leftover pieces. Sets get tossed into a box in their clear baggie for later colouring if I don't feel like using them right away. ~~~~~ For stamped die cuts, I stamp first then die cut, since I rarely make this type of element. If you're doing batches, I can see the template method being more efficient.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 17, 2022 14:29:48 GMT
cmpeter OMG! I have a Gemini Jr that I've only used twice so it sits in a box in the back of the closet. I wasn't impressed with it so I just never use it. Cutting tons of these tiny dies is the perfect opportunity to use it. MichyM I do both methods of stamping first then die cutting and die cutting then stamping with a template. It just depends on the stamp & die.
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Post by grammadee on Aug 17, 2022 15:40:27 GMT
Good questions. I have another to add to the mix... Once you have cut all those little dies apart, how do you store the dies so they don't get lost?
Sometimes it just seems easier for me to cut out all the pieces in all the colours, then layering the pieces so the needed colour is on top or discarding the pieces I don't need, rather than dealing with each little die each time.
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Post by MichyM on Aug 17, 2022 17:29:50 GMT
cmpeter OMG! I have a Gemini Jr that I've only used twice so it sits in a box in the back of the closet. I wasn't impressed with it so I just never use it. Cutting tons of these tiny dies is the perfect opportunity to use it. MichyM I do both methods of stamping first then die cutting and die cutting then stamping with a template. It just depends on the stamp & die. Ok, I have to ask this. I had to google what a Gemini Jr is. Now I'm wondering why would one would leave it in a closet, and not use it regularly? What was unimpressive about it? I bought a Platinum this spring to replace an old Revolution, and now that I've read about the Gemini I'm kinda disappointed that I did get an electronic die cutting machine! I'm totally into multi tasking, and using an electric machine (to me) would be akin to using a stand mixer...you can do other stuff while it does the work. So please spill it
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Post by MichyM on Aug 17, 2022 17:32:32 GMT
Good questions. I have another to add to the mix... Once you have cut all those little dies apart, how do you store the dies so they don't get lost? Sometimes it just seems easier for me to cut out all the pieces in all the colours, then layering the pieces so the needed colour is on top or discarding the pieces I don't need, rather than dealing with each little die each time. I save some of the acetate bags that so many of our card making supplies are packaged in. I'll put the >little< die pieces into an actetate bag, then into the clear storage envelope (I use Ellen Hutson's). That said, I'd also love to hear what others do.
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 17, 2022 18:11:58 GMT
I store my stamps and dies in stamp pockets. If I have a matching die, it goes into the stamp pocket (behind the stamp) and I note it on the front with a blue dot. If there are lots of small dies, I put those on a magnetic sheet also in the stamp pocket. If there are just a few or the dies are larger, I don't bother with the magnetic sheet. If I want to keep part of the original packaging, I also store it in the stamp pocket. I just slip it in the back with the dies. I like these stamp pockets for most of my sets. Linkyo Stamp Pockets - AmazonI've used a variety of magnetic sheets, including vent covers. But, like these best. I cut them down if needed with scissors or my Tonic paper trimmer. Magnetic Sheets - AmazonMost of the time I stamp first and then die cut. It's just how I started and is more part of my routine. I have done the template and die cut and then stamped...but I often don't remember.
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Post by azcrafty on Aug 17, 2022 18:21:33 GMT
Good questions. I have another to add to the mix... Once you have cut all those little dies apart, how do you store the dies so they don't get lost? I tape the tiny pieces together. Than I decid if: *I'll use it a lot - it goes on a magnetic sheet inside of a storage bag * I will only use it with the coordinating stamps, it will go in little bags and than in the same bag with the stamps.I used to use smaller pieces of magnetic sheets for this, but since the price for the magnetic vent covers almost doubled, I had to change it.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 17, 2022 18:44:33 GMT
MichyM I kept reading about how great the Gemini was and how it would cut thru any intricate die like butter. A few years ago a Hobby Lobby opened down the street and an employee told me I could use a 40% off coupon on the machines. Well I couldn't pass up that deal. Got home and tried to cut my most difficult die, Garden Gild Cover Plate . Needless to say the Gemini didn't do any better than my Big Shot. I pulled out another couple dies that I couldn't get to cut in my Big Shot and again it was no better. I just find setting up my manual die cut machine faster and more convenient. Soooooo, my Gemini Jr is in the box in the closet. As for die cut organization, I bought these at the Dollar Tree. I can fit 15 of these little plates in the container so its easy to organize all the pieces I cut. I think if I put a thin chipboard sheet over one layer, I can actually get another 15 plates on top. Once I'm done with all the pieces, I will store them in a ziplock bag. Mini plates
Rectangle deep storage container
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Post by scrapnnana on Aug 17, 2022 18:55:32 GMT
grammadee, I keep my die sets on magnetic sheets, in the ArtBin die containers. Even if they come off the magnetic sheet, the bin catches them. I haven’t lost a tiny (or any size) die yet. I know some put them on magnetic sheets vertically on the side of a filing cabinet, or on a wall, but the small dies can come off when stored that way. On Facebook, more than one person has been upset over losing dies from a set. I have a ton of dies that I have collected over the years, so I mark each ArtBin with a sharpie to show what dies are kept in each. It makes finding what I want very quick.
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Post by lindas on Aug 17, 2022 19:32:57 GMT
cmpeter OMG! I have a Gemini Jr that I've only used twice so it sits in a box in the back of the closet. I wasn't impressed with it so I just never use it. Cutting tons of these tiny dies is the perfect opportunity to use it. MichyM I do both methods of stamping first then die cutting and die cutting then stamping with a template. It just depends on the stamp & die. Ok, I have to ask this. I had to google what a Gemini Jr is. Now I'm wondering why would one would leave it in a closet, and not use it regularly? What was unimpressive about it? I bought a Platinum this spring to replace an old Revolution, and now that I've read about the Gemini I'm kinda disappointed that I did get an electronic die cutting machine! I'm totally into multi tasking, and using an electric machine (to me) would be akin to using a stand mixer...you can do other stuff while it does the work. So please spill it I boxed up my Gemini Jr too and got the Platinum with the 8 1/2” platform. I just wasn’t that impressed with the Gemini, my plates warped ready bad after just a few cuts and I had dies that weren’t cutting cleanly. Limited outlets in my room, small size and having to catch the plates when they went through (no platform on the Gemini) comvin me to go with the Platinum. I only keep the thing because I bought the Gemini hot foil press.
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Post by Embri on Aug 17, 2022 22:22:06 GMT
Good questions. I have another to add to the mix... Once you have cut all those little dies apart, how do you store the dies so they don't get lost? Sometimes it just seems easier for me to cut out all the pieces in all the colours, then layering the pieces so the needed colour is on top or discarding the pieces I don't need, rather than dealing with each little die each time. All my die storage is magnetic, I use old day planner 7 ring binders to house my collection. I have made little charms for the zip tab so I know what's in each binder when they're stored on a shelf. This one has sky related dies and objects. Acetate divider sheets keep dies from rubbing against the facing page's dies. Bigger dies are kept directly on magnet sheets, really small ones in magnetic 'folders' that go into pockets. Because the planners zipper up, nothing can get lost even if a die comes off the sheet, which I haven't had a problem with anyway. The 'folders' are just scraps of magnetic sheet stuck to a folded scrap of acetate, sized to an ATC / standard trading card. The four pocket page that holds them is a cut down old 3x3 trading card page that was too worn to use for cards anymore. The folder makes it easy to slip them in and out of a pocket without losing any dies in the process. Also convenient to carry over to the project workspace. If I have a group of very tiny dies I'll always want to cut together, I'll mount them as a unit either with Scotch or glitter washi tape. Anti-static powder/corn starch takes care of any remaining stick after joining and trimming the tape. They can be stored & used like that too. Grouping them by colour can help, if you've got part of a set that's always going to be a single colour for those pieces, mount them together and it'll reduce the amount of fiddling and cutting needed.
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 17, 2022 22:38:40 GMT
I love my Gemini. But, I had to get the plate situation right. Jennifer McGuire has a good video on using the green plates for double sided dies to cut your regular dies. It completely solved the plate warping situation.
I do have a Spellbinders Platinum 6 and use that if I just have a few items to cut and for hot foiling.
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Post by grammadee on Aug 18, 2022 15:41:58 GMT
Thanks for all the storage suggestions, Ladies! And thank you pinklady, for reminding me about how much I dislike working with ALL.THOSE.TINY.PIECES. Just saw this Spellbinders' set featured on the SCT blog: I was ready to hit Add to Cart, when I checked out the panel with the dies: now I like that the form is outlined that would make placement easier. But I know my track record for actually getting things glued together...
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Post by kate on Aug 20, 2022 15:09:26 GMT
My Gemini changed my die-cutting life! I can cut all kids of dies. I agree that the plates warp too fast - BUT! Here's my secret: I got a small green cutting mat from the dollar store and use it in place of the opaque plastic layer in the sandwich. The paper goes between the die and the cutting mat. I get perfect cuts, and the clear plates don't warp! Bonus: I usually don't need a second pass with an embossing mat for embossed details - they come through with the one pass when I use the cutting mat. I use a cardstock shim for most things - that's the only downside. It's a small price to pay, IMHO. My dies are stored on magnetic sheets in page protectors in a 3-ring binder unless they are part of a stamp-and-die set. Sets get stored together like cmpeter does it. I often stamp and cut extras in case I mess up; if I don't mess up, I throw the extras in the envelope with the stamps/dies. I am TERRIBLE about using die sets with a million fiddly layers!
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