MaryMary
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Post by MaryMary on Aug 25, 2022 19:51:37 GMT
My current house is about 10 minutes from a small grocery store, and 20 minutes from a decent one. It’s not a huge issue for me because I work in the city with the good grocery store so I’m there all the time anyway.
My house is pretty secluded here and I effing love it. This area is so quiet, so peaceful, and absolutely beautiful. So, for the right house, yes. But I’m a hermit and hate everyone.
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Post by anniefb on Aug 25, 2022 20:04:16 GMT
I chose the 'maybe if I really liked the home' option. I live in the suburbs and there are some days I dream of living rurally with more land and neighbours further away! I doubt I'll do it now as I'm about 4 years from retirement and plan to stay where I am because it has good hospital and shopping facilities nearby with great public transport links but you can always dream
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cycworker
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Post by cycworker on Aug 25, 2022 21:34:11 GMT
Where I live I can drive anywhere in town within 15ish minutes. I couldn't handle having to drive a half hour for groceries. It would require far too much extra planning to buy cold/frozen items.
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Post by Jen in NCal on Aug 26, 2022 0:35:43 GMT
If I liked the house. But this house would not do it for me. There isn't enough money in the world that would get me to live in Texas, especially in a McMansion.
Are people coming to look and then not making an offer? The house is very full with the owner's stuff and doesn't present well. Even if I overlooked the location (shudder) the pictures would not entice me to go look at it. Get rid of the stuff and either show it empty or professionally stage.
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Post by melanell on Aug 26, 2022 0:41:52 GMT
Right now, I would not. I have in the past, and we lived there for many years. But as more time passed, the more we missed the walkability of being in town. Not suburbia--but right in the heart of a town. So that's where we are now. And I don't know that I will want to give it up again. Before moving out to our rural home, we both lived in areas with good walkability, so it was a big departure for us, and we're glad to be back in that type of environment. We can walk to restaurants, stores, banks, post office, churches, parks, 2 of the district schools, the library, and more. DH cycles to work, but he could even walk there if he wished to do so. We just are so, so glad to have that ability again.
As for this:
Depending on where they live, people may not feel that the climate is right for making lower offers. So many places require higher bids to even have a chance, that people might not automatically think to offer less.
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Post by melanell on Aug 26, 2022 0:48:01 GMT
I'm feeling silly, but my vision stinks, so maybe that's the issue, but does this listing give the total square footage of the house? I searched around and finally found the year built, but I can't find the square footage. I'm used to listings where those 2 pieces of info are presented right at the top of the listing.
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 26, 2022 0:56:37 GMT
Where I live I can drive anywhere in town within 15ish minutes. I couldn't handle having to drive a half hour for groceries. It would require far too much extra planning to buy cold/frozen items. It really doesn’t require any extra planning other than making sure groceries are your last stop if your running multiple errands. Groceries stay plenty cold enough during a 30 minute drive, nothing melts or gets too warm.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 26, 2022 1:17:50 GMT
I'm feeling silly, but my vision stinks, so maybe that's the issue, but does this listing give the total square footage of the house? I searched around and finally found the year built, but I can't find the square footage. I'm used to listings where those 2 pieces of info are presented right at the top of the listing. Me too. I found it one day and now I am not finding it.
ETA: I found it on Zillow--- Total interior livable area: 2,984 sqft
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cycworker
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Post by cycworker on Aug 26, 2022 4:06:20 GMT
Where I live I can drive anywhere in town within 15ish minutes. I couldn't handle having to drive a half hour for groceries. It would require far too much extra planning to buy cold/frozen items. It really doesn’t require any extra planning other than making sure groceries are your last stop if your running multiple errands. Groceries stay plenty cold enough during a 30 minute drive, nothing melts or gets too warm. Really? Even ice cream? I honestly didn't know that. I do live a very sheltered life in some ways.
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Post by Gennifer on Aug 26, 2022 4:38:47 GMT
It really doesn’t require any extra planning other than making sure groceries are your last stop if your running multiple errands. Groceries stay plenty cold enough during a 30 minute drive, nothing melts or gets too warm. Really? Even ice cream? I honestly didn't know that. I do live a very sheltered life in some ways. We buy frozen things when we make Costco runs, and then drive an hour (or maybe even 90 minutes if we hit a drive through on the way) home. We do put our frozen stuff together, but everything is fine.
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Gennifer
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Post by Gennifer on Aug 26, 2022 4:43:52 GMT
I just had a chance to look at the actual listing. I think the house could be amazing with $100-$150k of renovations, but right now it just seems kind of… blah. Yard is lovely, bones are great, but finishes and furniture (which doesn’t matter, but contributes to the overall impression) are dated. Personally, I want a house that I can renovate, because I think it’s pretty unlikely I’d ever find one to my taste, but I think most people want move-in ready. It also seems like a higher price than I expected for Texas, so I think, in that higher range, you’re going to have more discerning buyers.
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Post by gar on Aug 26, 2022 6:39:41 GMT
It really doesn’t require any extra planning other than making sure groceries are your last stop if your running multiple errands. Groceries stay plenty cold enough during a 30 minute drive, nothing melts or gets too warm. Really? Even ice cream? I honestly didn't know that. I do live a very sheltered life in some ways. You can take a cool bag/ice pack with you which I've done before if I know I won't be going directly home.
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Post by kellapea on Aug 26, 2022 9:56:44 GMT
I'm having a hard time selling my house for that very reason. It's a nice house in a pretty country neighborhood, but being that far from the city has discouraged people from buying.
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SweetieBsMom
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Aug 26, 2022 11:56:37 GMT
I live 20-30 min from a grocery store now. We had a grocery store in town but it closed in June 2020. It takes some planning. There's a tiny store in town that I could go to buy milk, eggs, bread if I needed. They beefed up their grocery section (they're also a hardware store, liquor store, and butcher/deli.....gotta love small towns) when the other store went out of business.
I also think the house needs to be decluttered.
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Post by agengr2004 on Aug 26, 2022 12:23:12 GMT
In that area, I don't think that's what the problem is. My parents live in the Commerce area and there's people that live out there that commute into Dallas. I would say it's the last tax assessment that came in at 410K and it's on the market for 750K. The furnishings also make it look dated.
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 26, 2022 12:39:54 GMT
It really doesn’t require any extra planning other than making sure groceries are your last stop if your running multiple errands. Groceries stay plenty cold enough during a 30 minute drive, nothing melts or gets too warm. Really? Even ice cream? I honestly didn't know that. I do live a very sheltered life in some ways. Yep. Even ice cream. Frozen items are fine even when I make the longer drive to a Costco/Sam’s Club/Trader Joes which is either an hour drive or almost 2 hour drive depending on where I go. I do out all my cold/frozen stuff together but that’s about it. If I’m making the 2osh hour drive I try to remember to throw a cooler or a couple of cooler bags in the back of the car just in case bit I usually forget. It’s just something you are used to when you have to drive to get to anything.
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Post by sabrinae on Aug 26, 2022 12:40:10 GMT
Sorry. Double post.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 26, 2022 12:57:14 GMT
Really? Even ice cream? I honestly didn't know that. I do live a very sheltered life in some ways. You can take a cool bag/ice pack with you which I've done before if I know I won't be going directly home. Freezer bags are your friend in this scenario. I have a couple of them that I keep in the trunk of my car for Costco runs and pack all of the cold/frozen items together. They stay cold enough. To answer the question librarylady asked, I voted absolutely not. We looked at probably a hundred houses over the course of over six months before we found (almost) exactly what we were looking for. We are in a semi-rural suburban area BUT we are less than ten minutes from groceries, Target, post office, gas stations, medical care including a decent sized hospital, fast food and other restaurants and a very good school district, and less than 30 minutes from several other major shopping areas. We also live less than five miles away from actual working farms, homes where people have horses, etc. When you stand on the top of the hill overlooking our back yard acreage, you see nothing but rolling hills and trees but we still live in an actual neighborhood with neighbors you can wave to without being on top of them. It truly was worth waiting for. I too looked at the listing that was linked upthread and think there is way too much stuff on the walls and some of the rooms need a major decluttering. Some just need a one arm sweep across certain horizontal surfaces into a moving box. The photos don’t show off the best features of the home because it’s too easy to get caught up in all the details of their personal stuff everywhere, and I’m usually pretty good at seeing past a lot of that. Seeing too much stuff sitting out and closets that look stuffed full makes me feel like there isn’t going to be enough storage space in the home, and having plenty of accessible storage was/is a deal breaker for me. A professional stager could do a lot for that house and it would be money well spent.
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Post by amp on Aug 26, 2022 13:15:57 GMT
The drive wouldn't bother me...but if it did, I wouldn't even waste my time looking. I don't believe that's the problem. I've sold a couple homes, so I say with confidence, I believe the clutter and lots of personal decor are off-putting buyers. Most buyers have no imagination and are hyper-critical. Unfortunately, the way a person lives in their home when not on the market needs to be vastly different than when the home is on the market. I'm very surprised her real estate agent didn't say something about this. I know my agent would have been on my case for a while about it. I hope that helps.
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Post by katlady on Aug 26, 2022 14:56:07 GMT
In that area, I don't think that's what the problem is. My parents live in the Commerce area and there's people that live out there that commute into Dallas. I would say it's the last tax assessment that came in at 410K and it's on the market for 750K. The furnishings also make it look dated. I don’t know how it is reported in Texas, but here in California real estate listings show the tax assessment as the price that the house last sold at, not the current value. So it is not unusual for a listing to show a house with a tax base of $350K listed as $1 million. I looked as other listings that pop up when I click on the house link. Is Sanger a more upper middle class neighborhood than Krum? This house seems pretty close to Krum and homes in Krum are under $500K. I also saw another home in Sanger for about the same price but it next to a lake. Maybe the house is just simply overpriced?
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Aug 26, 2022 15:42:30 GMT
I voted 'that's my drive to the grocery store now' so that's not the problem, IMO. Well, we have a small-town grocery store about 15-20 minutes away, but a larger grocery store, Walmart, etc. is about 20-30 minutes away. And a Costco is probably 45 minutes away. We've lived that far away from major stores for at least the last 15 years- I just made sure to stop at the store on my way home from work; since I've always worked in the city I would pass all of that shopping on my way home from work.
(and yup, freezer bags- the only time I would really worry is if it was 110F outside and I was transporting ice cream, or something like that... but usually, a freezer bag or cooler and keeping all the cold/frozen stuff together works fine.)
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Post by J u l e e on Aug 26, 2022 16:11:11 GMT
I’ve already replied about the distance to the grocery store question but keep returning to this thread. I won’t even click on the link out of curiosity to look at the photos because that’s how much I hate cluttered spaces. Even seeing photos of clutter makes me feel claustrophobic. So I’m agreeing with everyone without even seeing the house - the stuff in the house is hindering the sale.
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Post by hopemax on Aug 26, 2022 16:51:53 GMT
I don’t think it’s the clutter that’s the problem. We’ve all seen listings that are far, far worse. Do I think decluttering and new pictures is something your sister should do? Probably, they are easy things that can’t hurt, and in some of the rooms should have been obvious before taking a picture in the first place. But IMO, the house still reads clean and tidy, and not what dangers are lurking.
I think the problem is that two roadblocks were thrown down that will have the particular type of buyer your sister needs at that price point reevaluating. 1st roadblock… interest rates. At that price point, I don’t think it’s first time homebuyers, or business money looking at an investment property to hold for awhile. It’s people looking to upgrade, and given interest rates they may be reevaluating staying in their own home and renovating. Or moving somewhere else where a $500K budget can get you what you want. Some states and cities that gets you nothing, but I think in Texas you can still find a large range of features depending on what community you look. Some potential buyers may be looking even more rural to find a better price.
I also recently read an article that in my state, CO, prices went so high so quickly because out-of-state buyers had higher budgets than in-state. I assume that is true for most states receiving an influx of buyers, and Texas is one. So 2nd roadblock, do people from places like California, Chicago, etc still want to move to Texas, given the current political climate? IMO in the short term, it’s on pause, to see how November shakes out, and how courts and lawyers and hospitals handle how women experiencing miscarriages are treated. People with real interest in moving to Texas for better COL, family, etc. will eventually still come, but if politics is a bigger deal breaker then some potential buyers might head to different states.
Those are things your sister or her realtor can’t fix. But I agree the photos are evidence her realtor may not be the best suited for this property, especially if she is also not getting good feedback from the showings that have happened. I think it’s mostly bad timing, and the pool of potential buyers is smaller than it has been. Which allows the people in that pool some room to prioritize their wants and find a more perfect floor plan, instead of buying anything, just to get a foot in the door and not shut out. If she has to sell quickly, then price should be reevaluated. But it may not be overpriced, and would sell for that either last spring or next spring. Or the right buyer could show up any month in between. But it won’t be a flood, just single families for who the house is perfect.
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Post by janeinbama on Aug 26, 2022 17:03:28 GMT
We live on the lake and it's worth it to me. I drive 20+ minutes to grocery store, but we have a gas station with pizza, meat & 3 10 minutes away. A DG is next door. I drove 45 minutes to work for 3 1/2 years before retiring. The price of gas right now and interest rates may be a big deterrent. I would talk to her realtor about having a stager come in and retake pictures. Are the area schools good?
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Post by ~summer~ on Aug 26, 2022 17:23:39 GMT
It’s funny the thing about the photos that really jumped out at me were all the bathrobes hanging in the bathroom - I wonder if they are still there when they show the house to people lol
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Post by hopemax on Aug 26, 2022 17:53:21 GMT
It’s funny the thing about the photos that really jumped out at me were all the bathrobes hanging in the bathroom - I wonder if they are still there when they show the house to people lol This is one of the things that did it for me too! It would have taken only a couple minutes to temporary take them off the hook, snap the photo and hang them back up. Toss them in a tote in a closet for a showing. The second one was the extra chairs in the casual dining area. Put them in the garage or outbuilding. The third was the dog step up to the sofa. Quick to remove for a photo, and should be removed along with the pet during showings. These are the items that make me question the realtor, even though I expect people to still be living in their homes while trying to sell. Stuff on shelves, or hanging in closets, obviously they haven't started packing yet. I can deal. But little or no effort to do small things just for a moment to click a photo...
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Post by fiddlesticks on Aug 26, 2022 19:28:20 GMT
I would be willing. I searched for the link and would agree with others that the staging needs some work. I remember when we sold our house our realtor had us remove anything personal and we packed up a ton of stuff and had it in the garage. She told us that when people walk through, they need to be able to visual themselves and their stuff in the house. I remember internally rolling my eyes a bit but noticed it was very true when we were looking at houses.
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Post by melanell on Aug 26, 2022 23:52:16 GMT
It really doesn’t require any extra planning other than making sure groceries are your last stop if your running multiple errands. Groceries stay plenty cold enough during a 30 minute drive, nothing melts or gets too warm. Really? Even ice cream? I honestly didn't know that. I do live a very sheltered life in some ways. I personally found that not to be the case in regards to ice cream. I always had to ask for my ice cream to be put into its own bag because it would always be melty in the summer months by the time we reached home.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Aug 27, 2022 0:28:16 GMT
It’s funny the thing about the photos that really jumped out at me were all the bathrobes hanging in the bathroom - I wonder if they are still there when they show the house to people lol What jumped out at me was all the crosses. Growing up, I lived about 15 minutes from a grocery store. That in and of itself isn't a dealbreaker but one big obstacle (which probably does not exist for this house in Texas) is what happens when it snows. I live in the city and while my side street doesn't get plowed for less than 3 inches, the main road is nearly always drivable without too much headache so it's really easy to get out for provisions. Where I grew up was not only rural, but at the edge of the county and, thus, one of the last things plowed. 15 minutes on a a good day isn't abad drive but it sucks when you can't drive above 10 mph.
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 27, 2022 1:07:56 GMT
It’s funny the thing about the photos that really jumped out at me were all the bathrobes hanging in the bathroom - I wonder if they are still there when they show the house to people lol All the robes, yet no towels out?? It also looks like the robes are on an over-the-door hanger. I would put it away, along with the robes, while the house is being sold. This is one of the things that did it for me too! It would have taken only a couple minutes to temporary take them off the hook, snap the photo and hang them back up. Toss them in a tote in a closet for a showing. The second one was the extra chairs in the casual dining area. Put them in the garage or outbuilding. The third was the dog step up to the sofa. Quick to remove for a photo, and should be removed along with the pet during showings. Yes to all this.
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