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Post by pantsonfire on Sept 30, 2022 19:25:35 GMT
Okay so I think I want to try coloring on stamp imagines.
Where is the best place to buy the markers?
How does one go about getting the right colors?
Are there must have colors I should have?
I want to highlight a new snowman stamp as well as color in the hat and scarf.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Post by kmage on Sept 30, 2022 19:47:21 GMT
Not sure if you have a Tuesday Morning by you, or if you are looking for a budget option, but my TM had a set of alcohol markers, 40 for 14.99 this week. They are bullet nib. Jen Shurkus has a intro to coloring video where she states she likes the bullet tip better. I looked them up online and they got pretty good reviews on Amazon.
I liked having budget markers to mess around with before I started onto Copics and having a set was important to me as I wanted to color all the things! lol. I still only have 6 copics, I really like my budget markers.
I think a couple other folks also use Ohuhu markers as their budget option too. Edited to add a nice set of Ohuhu (48 colors plus a blender and case) are 39.99 with the brush tip like Copic.
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Post by Linda on Sept 30, 2022 20:16:16 GMT
I have a good size set of Ohuhu also - as does my DD15 (she's super into art). She also has some of the HL ones and is happy with those as well.
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Post by pantsonfire on Sept 30, 2022 20:33:52 GMT
Oh thanks both of you for that info. I saw those as well on Amazon.
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Post by GiantsFan on Sept 30, 2022 21:09:04 GMT
I've been using Copics for a few years. I love them. I tried a couple of other brands and (for me) it was hard to get a good blend. There is a new brand called OLO, but I haven't tried those. If you're wanting to color a specific stamp check out the design team cards for it and see what colors they are using. Jenn Shurkus has this blog post that is really helpful. Jenn also does free Create With Us classes from Lawn Fawn. She provides really good coloring guides in the pdf instructions. Sandy Allnock has really good in depth classes on Copic coloring. I hope this helps. ETA: I buy most of my Copics from ScrapbookPal. They're discounted and free shipping at $50.
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Post by kitbop on Sept 30, 2022 21:25:16 GMT
I agree that Copics are better if you are an artist- better nib (the ohuhu and cheap brands have a felty material that does fray; I believe the copic nibs are a different material that lasts better?) and slightly better blending. They are refillable...but the refills have gone way up in price!
However, I'm no artist, and I happily use and recommend the ohuhu brand along with my copics.
Colours: you will want 2-3 "shades" of a colour you choose - light/medium/dark - for most shadings. Like a toque or scarf typically take 3 shades of a colour to make look good. Pick a couple of colours and start there. If I personally were doing your snowmen, I'd choose a red set and a blue set. Then you'll want a pale PALE blue-grey to create shading on the "snow" and a roundness to your snowmen, and possibly a light grey to create shadows under the snowmen. And a blender pen - I'd recommend this just to "erase" mistakes or help blend sometimes (you'll usually just blend between colours). Oh, guess you'll need a yellow or orange for the carrot?
I ADORE my alcohol markers. I also use them to change the colour of thickers, die cuts, paper... When I mat photos, if I don't want to cut into cardstock I create a white mat and just colour the edge of it with my alcohol markers.
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Post by craftmepink on Sept 30, 2022 21:31:49 GMT
Just my opinion but I found that I liked using my Crafter's Companion spectrum noir triblends better than Copics. They were more budget friendly and I liked the way they blended. These are the ones I use below. For each color, they have a light, medium, and dark so they're really good at blending. Also, I'm no artist but I found them perfect for coloring stamped images. Link: Spectrum Noir Triblend-Blendable Alcohol Marker Pens-Essential Blends-Set of 24, Multi a.co/d/6ujaug2
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Post by peasquared on Sept 30, 2022 21:39:34 GMT
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Post by scrappyesq on Sept 30, 2022 21:55:27 GMT
I've been using Copics for a few years. I love them. I tried a couple of other brands and (for me) it was hard to get a good blend. There is a new brand called OLO, but I haven't tried those. If you're wanting to color a specific stamp check out the design team cards for it and see what colors they are using. Jenn Shurkus has this blog post that is really helpful. Jenn also does free Create With Us classes from Lawn Fawn. She provides really good coloring guides in the pdf instructions. Sandy Allnock has really good in depth classes on Copic coloring. I hope this helps. ETA: I buy most of my Copics from ScrapbookPal. They're discounted and free shipping at $50. All of that. Just adding blick dot com sells them for $5.85. In store you have to buy 6 or more to get that price online there’s no minimum. I’ve used them for years and love them.
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Post by pantsonfire on Oct 1, 2022 4:04:22 GMT
Thanks for all the links and information!
I decided to start with Ohuhu brand. They were on sale on Amazon and will be here this weekend.
If I enjoy coloring images, I will try out Copic and Spectrum.
I figured if I don't enjoy coloring, I can give dd my pens who loves to draw, Doodle, and color. They will be put to good use if I just don't enjoy the process.
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Post by Embri on Oct 1, 2022 6:22:06 GMT
If you have no experience with alcohol markers, I'd start with a more cost effective set than a mass buy of Copics. My first markers were ProMarker, ShinHan Touch, Prismacolor Premier and Tria. I eventually went on to buy a full set of Copic Originals. All brands will work fine together, though they usually blend slightly better with their own type.
Copics are the "luxury" model and while I do think they're worth their price, it comes with the caveat of "worth it IF you colour extensively AND really enjoy the medium as your main form of colour." Copic's main advantages are their durability and refillable status, which has become a weaker selling point recently because refills halved in size but remained the same price.
I would try to get ahold of at least one bullet nib and one 'super brush' tipped pen. They are very different to work with and almost everyone has Opinions on which they prefer. Personally I like the bullet tips for most jobs, but I get a lot of my pastels in the super brush because they're better for blending/feathering.
Some points worth knowing: 1. Colorless "Blender" is better thought of as a thinner / ink pusher. If you want to blend, a light marker in the same colour family will do a much better job. 2. Paper matters. Rough, thick, and/or non-coated paper will soak up ink and look duller, often with a blotchy finish. Smooth cardstock works best. 3. Buy in colour families. Three is usually a good starting point. Get a pastel, a mid-tone and a dark. 4. Pale colours are more valuable than intense ones. Layering up a pale colour will darken it (to a point) but intense colours quickly reach their saturation point. Pale colours also work as blenders. 5. You don't need every marker. Many marker colours are almost indistinguishable from each other, especially in yellows, oranges and pinks. 6. Neutrals hit above their weight class. While they might not be the most exciting, browns, greys and other 'non-colours' get used on almost any project. They're a worthwhile purchase. I skip black because Sharpies do the same job for less, and with a lot more line thicknesses available.
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Post by FurryP on Oct 1, 2022 20:07:38 GMT
This is where I get mine ever since Oozak (?) closed down. I have gotten good service and if you spend $50 you get 5 percent off or $100, 10 percent. Makes them a little cheaper than Scrapbook pal. ETA: pantsonfire , you will be able to use your makers to color an embellishment or make a shade of paper a little darker for any of your other crafts. Like if you have a yellow paper flower embellish that is not quite dark enough, you can use your markers to make it darker. I do that all the time, in addition to coloring stamped images.
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Post by pantsonfire on Oct 1, 2022 20:19:23 GMT
This is where I get mine ever since Oozak (?) closed down. I have gotten good service and if you spend $50 you get 5 percent off or $100, 10 percent. Makes them a little cheaper than Scrapbook pal. ETA: pantsonfire , you will be able to use your makers to color an embellishment or make a shade of paper a little darker for any of your other crafts. Like if you have a yellow paper flower embellish that is not quite dark enough, you can use your markers to make it darker. I do that all the time, in addition to coloring stamped images. Yes, I was watching some videos on youtube and some were making their orange pumpkin embellishment darker and I was like ohhhhh, I like that!
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Post by Embri on Oct 1, 2022 21:00:09 GMT
Colouring coloured cardstock (say that three times fast!) is one of my favourite techniques. It can be subtle or bold, and can make your colouring job a lot easier since you don't have to get down that all-over even layer of colour to begin with. All the shading on this little guy was done with alcohol markers.
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Post by FurryP on Oct 1, 2022 23:20:32 GMT
Colouring coloured cardstock (say that three times fast!) is one of my favourite techniques. It can be subtle or bold, and can make your colouring job a lot easier since you don't have to get down that all-over even layer of colour to begin with. All the shading on this little guy was done with alcohol markers. Oh yeah, totally forgot about shading. Looks much better than just a flat little guy.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 3, 2022 4:19:49 GMT
The paper and ink you use to stamp the image are also important to get good color blending, pantsonfire . Everyone I know uses Memento Fade Resistant Dye Ink Tuxedo Black for stamping images to be colored. My preferred white cardstock is Hammermill Premium Color Digital Cover 100# Bright White (recommended by Jennifer Dove, creator of the Copic Boot Camp) and I've used Neenah Solar White 80# and 110# weights as well. The best price I've found for all markers is at Carpe Diem Markers. Their Copic Sketch Markers are listed at $5.25 but I only buy when they go on sale. My collection is pretty good and it's been ages since I've bought any but the last time I did, they were $4.20 each. Sign up for their emails to get discount/coupon notifications.
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Post by pantsonfire on Oct 3, 2022 12:34:29 GMT
The paper and ink you use to stamp the image are also important to get good color blending, pantsonfire . Everyone I know uses Memento Fade Resistant Dye Ink Tuxedo Black for stamping images to be colored. My preferred white cardstock is Hammermill Premium Color Digital Cover 100# Bright White (recommended by Jennifer Dove, creator of the Copic Boot Camp) and I've used Neenah Solar White 80# and 110# weights as well. The best price I've found for all markers is at Carpe Diem Markers. Their Copic Sketch Markers are listed at $5.25 but I only buy when they go on sale. My collection is pretty good and it's been ages since I've bought any but the last time I did, they were $4.20 each. Sign up for their emails to get discount/coupon notifications. Thanks for that info! I haven't been happy with my follow along coloring and was wondering if it was the paper or my strokes. I will get some of the Neenah paper. So is the Momento better than Stayzon for this? I have just been coloring die cuts and drawings. Still 50/50 on if this is my thing.
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Post by pantsonfire on Oct 3, 2022 12:35:58 GMT
Colouring coloured cardstock (say that three times fast!) is one of my favourite techniques. It can be subtle or bold, and can make your colouring job a lot easier since you don't have to get down that all-over even layer of colour to begin with. All the shading on this little guy was done with alcohol markers. Thanks so much for sharing! I am a visual learner and that helps a lot with shading.
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Post by GiantsFan on Oct 3, 2022 13:53:15 GMT
The paper and ink you use to stamp the image are also important to get good color blending, pantsonfire . Everyone I know uses Memento Fade Resistant Dye Ink Tuxedo Black for stamping images to be colored. My preferred white cardstock is Hammermill Premium Color Digital Cover 100# Bright White (recommended by Jennifer Dove, creator of the Copic Boot Camp) and I've used Neenah Solar White 80# and 110# weights as well. The best price I've found for all markers is at Carpe Diem Markers. Their Copic Sketch Markers are listed at $5.25 but I only buy when they go on sale. My collection is pretty good and it's been ages since I've bought any but the last time I did, they were $4.20 each. Sign up for their emails to get discount/coupon notifications. Thanks for that info! I haven't been happy with my follow along coloring and was wondering if it was the paper or my strokes. I will get some of the Neenah paper. So is the Momento better than Stayzon for this?I have just been coloring die cuts and drawings. Still 50/50 on if this is my thing. Memento Tuxedo Black is great for Copics. I use it, LF's Jet Black, HA's Intense Black and MFT Extreme Black. Any ink that is safe for alcohol markers should have it stated on the back label or maybe even on the lid. You can print digital files on a laser printer (not ink jet) using a good paper like the Neenah or Hammermill mentioned. Just give it a bit to cool down as the ink is heat set and if it's not cool it can smudge. I did this when I was taking Sandy Allnocks class. Her class materials are print and color.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 3, 2022 17:37:31 GMT
So is the Momento better than Stayzon for this? Yes. The black alcohol ink from a stamped Stazon image can activate with any alcohol ink markers. I'm not sure if it still does if you heat set or wait a couple days and I don't know if different papers make a difference. As GiantsFan pointed out, there are other black inks that are good to use with Copics, too. I would trust LF, HA and MFT to have developed excellent Copic compatible inks. I already had Memento Tuxedo Black (from Michaels) in my supplies when I started playing with Copics and never looked at other options. FWIW, I printed Sandy Allnock's Hex Chart with an ink-jet printer on Neenah paper, waited a bit to color it in and didn't have a smearing issue. It is my favorite tool for picking colors to use on a project and an absolute must investment if you do go further into the Copic world.
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Post by Embri on Oct 3, 2022 18:46:32 GMT
Shading coloured cardstock is a great place to start. Just pick a marker close to your paper colour and have at ye! When in doubt err on the side of lighter. You can always go back with a darker marker or the same one for another pass. The overall effect will lighten as it dries, again, especially with the light colours. I haven't had any stamping ink problems with my basic Autumn Leaves Onyx black ink. As long as you use a water based ink and let it fully dry, should be good. At least try whatever you have on hand first before buying another black. A colour chart is invaluable - make sure you swatch on the actual paper you plan to colour on, because the final result can vary a good bit just on paper type.
If you find a combination of colours you really like, swatch it! I keep mine in slide pockets with my colour chart. Makes it very easy to recreate the same look later on, especially as you get more colours to work with.
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Post by naby64 on Oct 3, 2022 21:54:53 GMT
Another hint I had for coloring snow men is to use the very lightest of light blues for shading. I think I have the chart at home with that combo. It made a huge difference using that as opposed to the lightest gray.
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Post by cmpeter on Oct 3, 2022 22:00:48 GMT
Ditto!
I like Lawn Fawn Jet Black for Copic coloring.
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Post by gizzy on Oct 3, 2022 22:14:06 GMT
FurryP, cute pokemon. I'm still working towards that level of shading.
I've bought mine from Blicks when they had sales.
Look for artists on youtube that you enjoy. They'll tell you what #'s they are using for their blending. That's what I do, at least.
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