samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 14, 2022 15:28:59 GMT
location, if the capitol was under attack? Why wasn't dump moved to a secure, safe location like the members of the House and Senate? Dump was moved to the WH bunker during the protests. When the 9/11 attacks occurred were the President/VP moved some place safe? Just a random thought.
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 14, 2022 15:36:07 GMT
The president wasn't moved from the White House during 9-11 because he wasn't there. He was in Florida reading to kids. If the VP was at the White House I'm sure he was moved because at some point someone realized that Flight 93 was possibly heading there.
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 14, 2022 15:39:36 GMT
The president wasn't moved from the White House during 9-11 because he wasn't there. He was in Florida reading to kids. If the VP was at the White House I'm sure he was moved because at some point someone realized that Flight 93 was possibly heading there. Do you know where they took Bush?
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 14, 2022 15:43:45 GMT
The president wasn't moved from the White House during 9-11 because he wasn't there. He was in Florida reading to kids. If the VP was at the White House I'm sure he was moved because at some point someone realized that Flight 93 was possibly heading there. Do you know where they took Bush? Offutt Air Force base in Nebraska, where the U.S. Strategic Command is.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 14, 2022 15:44:45 GMT
The president wasn't moved from the White House during 9-11 because he wasn't there. He was in Florida reading to kids. If the VP was at the White House I'm sure he was moved because at some point someone realized that Flight 93 was possibly heading there. Do you know where they took Bush? Initially into the air. The safest place was for him was aboard Air Force 1 as all other aircraft was grounded. They did eventually land in a secure bunker in Nebraska that is about 40 feet underground. He wasn't there long before insisting to return to DC. They moved Cheney to a bunker beneath the White House and Speaker of the House was moved to a secure location outside of DC.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 14, 2022 15:46:53 GMT
They stayed in the air for awhile. Then I think Kansas/Nebraska to a secure location .. I'm just not sure. *** Google first.. 😊
WOWT/Gray News) - Twenty years ago Saturday, President George W. Bush flew to Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska to get a better handle on our nation under attack. WOWT reported on the U.S. Strategic Command, or STRATCOM, facilities at historical 55th wing, featuring a safety bunker, that hosted Bush on Sept.Sep 10, 2021
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 14, 2022 15:50:06 GMT
And yes, during the BLM protest in DC, Lafayette Park(?), Former was moved to the WH bunker..
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Post by lisae on Oct 14, 2022 21:21:49 GMT
This is a very good question. I'd never thought of it. I guess everyone including the Secret Service knew that these people weren't going to hurt Trump, they worshiped him so he was safe. Any other President, they wouldn't have even let him go address the crowd, knowing there were people in the area with weapons. We know now that the Secret Service knew a lot about what was happening long before the rest of the country did.
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Post by amom23 on Oct 14, 2022 21:26:45 GMT
Trump was the one who organized the rally and asked all his minions to come. Of course he wasn't afraid of them. I imagine him sitting with a big ass smile on his face while the capitol riot took place. Heck his aides have all said he sat and watched the TV coverage all afternoon.
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Post by Merge on Oct 14, 2022 21:48:32 GMT
They stayed in the air for awhile. Then I think Kansas/Nebraska to a secure location .. I'm just not sure. *** Google first.. 😊 WOWT/Gray News) - Twenty years ago Saturday, President George W. Bush flew to Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska to get a better handle on our nation under attack. WOWT reported on the U.S. Strategic Command, or STRATCOM, facilities at historical 55th wing, featuring a safety bunker, that hosted Bush on Sept.Sep 10, 2021 My hometown! 😂
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 15, 2022 15:23:40 GMT
Trump was the one who organized the rally and asked all his minions to come. Of course he wasn't afraid of them. I imagine him sitting with a big ass smile on his face while the capitol riot took place. Heck his aides have all said he sat and watched the TV coverage all afternoon. yes, I know this, but if this was not under his direction, wouldn't the president be put in a secure location and not sitting next to the oval office watching on a TV? It seems so strange that protocols were not followed. Why wasn't he put somewhere safe?
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Post by leftturnonly on Oct 15, 2022 15:32:44 GMT
Why wasn't dump moved to a secure, safe location like the members of the House and Senate? Dump was moved to the WH bunker during the protests. The reason to have bunkers at the White House is to provide a safe location. The White House was a prime target during 9/11. An exploding plane with ignited jet fuel wouldn't be safe to be near even in a protected bunker.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 15, 2022 15:32:49 GMT
Trump was the one who organized the rally and asked all his minions to come. Of course he wasn't afraid of them. I imagine him sitting with a big ass smile on his face while the capitol riot took place. Heck his aides have all said he sat and watched the TV coverage all afternoon. yes, I know this, but if this was not under his direction, wouldn't the president be put in a secure location and not sitting next to the oval office watching on a TV? It seems so strange that protocols were not followed. Why wasn't he put somewhere safe? Because, he knew what was going on. He sent his people/rioters to the Capitol. His secret service detail knew what was going on. They ALL KNEW he was safe at the WH. Too bad none of them cared about Pence, he called Pence incompetent. Pence proved him wrong. And remember Pelosi was next in line so former wanted her gone too!! ETA: The National Park Service Police reported long guns on the National Mall early in the morning, so they, former and secret service detail KNEW that long before he left the WH!!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 15, 2022 15:34:02 GMT
Heck, he wanted to go with the mob to the capital. Everyone knew the mob was not going to hurt him so no need to move him.
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 15, 2022 15:55:04 GMT
Evidence that he knew what was going on. If he wasn't involved, wouldn't the official procedures be to move him to a secure location? No one is discussing this.
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Post by amom23 on Oct 15, 2022 15:58:15 GMT
Evidence that he knew what was going on. If he wasn't involved, wouldn't the official procedures be to move him to a secure location? No one is discussing this. Of course the president would be moved to a secure location in normal circumstances. The fact is nothing was normal with Trump's presidency and since he organized and encouraged the rioting there was nothing for him to be afraid of hence no reason to move him out of his dining room.
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 15, 2022 15:59:04 GMT
It doesn't matter if he thought it was safe. Wouldn't normal protocol be to put a president in a safe place when the capitol is under attack? Did the wh carry out proper procedures?
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 15, 2022 16:12:07 GMT
It doesn't matter if he thought it was safe. Wouldn't normal protocol be to put a president in a safe place when the capitol is under attack? Did the wh carry out proper procedures? The secret service has ultimate decision making on protecting the president. There was no threat at the White House, and I would not have expected them to move him into the bunker because there was a riot at the Capital - they're not remotely close. If the mob had moved from the Capital to the White House I would expect them to have moved him into the bunker which would have been a secure location.
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 15, 2022 16:22:20 GMT
But wouldn't the activity of something happening near them be enough to move him, like the 9 11 attacks or the protests? Or at least have a high alert protocol that he wouldn't be sitting in the dining room watching TV?
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 15, 2022 16:31:09 GMT
But wouldn't the activity of something happening near them be enough to move him, like the 9 11 attacks or the protests? Or at least have a high alert protocol that he wouldn't be sitting in the dining room watching TV? But it wasn't near him. It was at the Capitol which isn't near the White House. And the White House is pretty secure. Even more so after trump ordered that stupid barrier fence thing to be put up after he got worried about all of us protesting across the street. haha
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 15, 2022 16:31:45 GMT
But wouldn't the activity of something happening near them be enough to move him, like the 9 11 attacks or the protests? Or at least have a high alert protocol that he wouldn't be sitting in the dining room watching TV? One more time. Former and his secret service detail, his SSD/dep chief of staff Ornato, chief of staff Meadows, ALL KNEW.. they are the ones who were detail to protect the president. They knew was NOT IN DANGER, but rather participants ... No bunker!! ETA: were they all honorable, he would have been escorted to and secured in the bunker. None of them were/are honorable!!
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 15, 2022 16:37:21 GMT
But wouldn't the activity of something happening near them be enough to move him, like the 9 11 attacks or the protests? Or at least have a high alert protocol that he wouldn't be sitting in the dining room watching TV? But it wasn't near him. It was at the Capitol which isn't near the White House. And the White House is pretty secure. Even more so after trump ordered that stupid barrier fence thing to be put up after he got worried about all of us protesting across the street. haha yes, that makes sense. But wouldn't there be protocols for checking if staff like the vp is aok, not necessarily by the president but staff?
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 15, 2022 16:41:36 GMT
But wouldn't the activity of something happening near them be enough to move him, like the 9 11 attacks or the protests? Or at least have a high alert protocol that he wouldn't be sitting in the dining room watching TV? One more time. Former and his secret service detail, his SSD/dep chief of staff Ornato, chief of staff Meadows, ALL KNEW.. they are the ones who were detail to protect the president. They knew was NOT IN DANGER, but rather participants ... No bunker!! ETA: were they all honorable, he would have been escorted to and secured in the bunker. None of them were/are honorable!! but why give that job to so few men? Crap, when you point this out. Does dump hire the Ss
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Post by tuva42 on Oct 15, 2022 16:43:49 GMT
There was some testimony that he asked his Secret Service driver to take him to the capital building to join "his people." They refused, saying they couldn't protect him.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 15, 2022 16:46:12 GMT
Pence feared for his life!!
Pence said I am not getting in that car. He did not trust the secret service.
Pelosi did talk to Pence. She told him to be careful. She asked if he was safe. She told him not to tell anyone where he was. He had close staff with him. He had heard the chants of 'hang Mike Pence'
Former said he deserved it! Being hung? You bet!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 15, 2022 16:47:31 GMT
One more time. Former and his secret service detail, his SSD/dep chief of staff Ornato, chief of staff Meadows, ALL KNEW.. they are the ones who were detail to protect the president. They knew was NOT IN DANGER, but rather participants ... No bunker!! ETA: were they all honorable, he would have been escorted to and secured in the bunker. None of them were/are honorable!! but why give that job to so few men? Crap, when you point this out. Does dump hire the Ss No. He corrupted them .... Ornato resigned and has refused to testify. Although he claims Cassidy Hutchinson is lying.. he will not testify under oath. She is more truthful then all of them.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 15, 2022 16:51:52 GMT
It doesn't matter if he thought it was safe. Wouldn't normal protocol be to put a president in a safe place when the capitol is under attack? Did the wh carry out proper procedures? It doesn’t seem so. If I had to guess, I would say that they all knew-SS too-that he was safe. They did prevent him from going to the Capitol.
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Post by mollycoddle on Oct 15, 2022 16:54:01 GMT
It doesn't matter if he thought it was safe. Wouldn't normal protocol be to put a president in a safe place when the capitol is under attack? Did the wh carry out proper procedures? The secret service has ultimate decision making on protecting the president. There was no threat at the White House, and I would not have expected them to move him into the bunker because there was a riot at the Capital - they're not remotely close. If the mob had moved from the Capital to the White House I would expect them to have moved him into the bunker which would have been a secure location. This.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 15, 2022 17:06:37 GMT
Try this.. During an appearance on MSNBC on Saturday morning, Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig claimed her sources state that the Jan. 6 committee will seek to re-interview two former Secret Service officials with close ties to Donald Trump after new revelations about the insurrection have come to light. *** "Let me tell you what I know from sources, which is that they have said that both Tony Ornato, who was a senior Secret Service executive that was then serving, oddly enough, as the White House Deputy Chief of Staff, a political role helping Donald Trump, and Bobby Engel, who was the head of President Trump's security detail, are likely to be re-interviewed." *** The question that has arisen for the committee is to, first, that both men have said that they didn't recall certain things, and they didn't see any intel of concern, they don't remember certain things happening that other witnesses said happened and the record seemed to raise serious concerns about the possibility that they could not have known these things," she continued. "The most important and obvious so far is Tony Ornato's claim that he was not aware of any intelligence that posed a threat to the protectees that they protect, the president and vice president," she elaborated. "That is just impossible." www.rawstory.com/trump-secret-service-2658455907/
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Oct 15, 2022 17:20:59 GMT
I am questioning why is it left up to just ss to protect President/vp or speaker in the case of a riot at the capitol or any other building in the same area? Is the current president being led by corrupt ss?
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