pantsonfire
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Jun 19, 2022 16:48:04 GMT
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Post by pantsonfire on Oct 23, 2022 16:38:11 GMT
So on my layout about Sadie I wanted to use my "free" letter stickers I got from SB dot com when I placed an order. (I quoted free because I bought items to get them lol) I was excited to use them as they were a perfect fit. So I peel them off and start to arrange them on the page and they lift up in areas. I check and they are not sticky at all. It is almost like blue washi tape sticky. Just enough but not to where they are secure. So I had to hold each with my tweezers and add glue on the back.
Why cant companies make stickers that are ready to use off of the package?! I do not like spending that extra time fussing with glue and stickers to get them to stay on a project.
I have also had trouble with Elle's Studio stickers. The glue remains on the clear packaging but not on the sticker itself. So then when stored, the packaging sticks to the sleeve. It's maddening.
Okay, vent over.
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Post by cannmom on Oct 23, 2022 17:43:10 GMT
I agree, so frustrating to have to add extra adhesive to things that are supposed to be sticky already.
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Elsabelle
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Jun 26, 2014 2:04:55 GMT
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Post by Elsabelle on Oct 23, 2022 17:45:04 GMT
I just recently used some Felicity Jane puffy letter stickers and they weren't sticky. I used my Nuvo liquid adhesive and they still didn't stick. I had to sew over the letters. Such a pain.
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Post by joblackford on Oct 23, 2022 18:16:16 GMT
ugh, so annoying! I know they talk about climate affecting adhesives and all that but the word sticker has the function in the name. If they don't stick they are not stickers. I would send them an email with a photo of the problem even if you don't want to return them, or leave a review. If we don't complain they don't know to fix the problem.
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Post by justjac on Oct 23, 2022 19:38:44 GMT
Even worse than not sticking to a page is when Thickers fall to the bottom of the package so I can’t even tell what letters I have.
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blemon
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Aug 1, 2014 20:06:00 GMT
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Post by blemon on Oct 23, 2022 21:33:30 GMT
I feel this thread.
I can so relate.
I just bought some puffy stickers and I can't remember if they are Elle's Studio or Paper Person but they are not sticking down at all. I had to put glue dots on the back of each one.
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Post by prettyprettypaper on Oct 23, 2022 21:46:54 GMT
One of my biggest pet peeves about embellishments is sticky stuff that doesn't stick. I hate when that happens with alpha stickers. I also hate it when washi tape starts to lift or when you can't peel it off from the roll. It's like it sticks where it's not supposed to stick and doesn't stick where it is supposed to.
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Post by Night Owl on Oct 23, 2022 21:47:54 GMT
This will be an unpopular opinion but stickers stuck better when they were the thinner type stickers like the old Mrs. Grossmans. I find with cardstock stickers they don't stick as well because the cardstock doesn't bend, hope that makes sense. I would buy stickers to match collections and found I rarely used them, so now I buy the ephemera instead where I can use my own adhesive on them.
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Post by 950nancy on Oct 23, 2022 22:21:50 GMT
Sometimes I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with they way the stickers are stored and transported before they get to the store. I never know why that happens. I always just glue them to my layouts knowing they can easily fall off.
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Post by honeypea on Oct 23, 2022 22:42:47 GMT
I feel this thread. I can so relate. I just bought some puffy stickers and I can't remember if they are Elle's Studio or Paper Person but they are not sticking down at all. I had to put glue dots on the back of each one. Freckled Fawn, perhaps? I grabbed several packs of puffy hearts during a sale last year and they are not even stickers. They have no stick at all once pulled off the backer sheet. So irritating.
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Post by Embri on Oct 23, 2022 22:59:57 GMT
So the likely culprit is two-fold here. *puts on museum conservation hat*
Adhesive is what is known in the conservation world as an unstable material. That's part of what gives it its original properties. Most materials are unstable; they degrade due to environmental factors. That's one of the reasons environmental stability for collections storage is a high priority for a curator.
Some materials are inherently volatile/hazardous, such as cellulose nitrate (old film), organics, anything with a friable surface, etc. Most modern plastics and adhesives fall into this group. They degrade over time even in the best of storage conditions. When dealing with composite objects - which is near universal in the realm of papercraft; the adhesive is being used to attach something with itself - things get even worse. You get interactions between the two materials. As Night Owl suggested, having a rigid paper material next to an adhesive means you now have two materials that react to changes in relative humidity *very* differently conjoined. Even small fluctuations will cause paper based materials to swell and shrink. On a micro level this breaks down the adhesive bonds or tears tiny paper fibers away from the adhesion. At the same time things like tape - itself a composite of plastic film carrier and adhesive - are degrading. Plastics lose their plasticizers as they age, becoming more brittle, yellow and shrinking. If you've ever looked at something with very old tape on it, you may have seen this in action. The carrier/backing falls right off and a gritty, yellow residue is left on the original surface. This is the adhesive, or what's left of it. All told it's a recipe for failure. Sticky adhesive is not a stable or desirable long term method of adhesion. Being exposed to heat, light and/or friction on top of changes in temp/humidity will accelerate failure. It's highly probable such exposures have already happened during transportation and manufacture of the original product before it's even purchased by the end consumer.
So what does that mean for the average scrapbooker, cardmaker or papercrafter? Favouring liquid curing adhesives which do not retain their stickiness once dry will make your creations more durable and stable. Physical attachment (such as sewing) is another option with great security and longevity. Where there is no option other than to use non-curing adhesive, restricting use to non-porous materials will increase stability.
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PaperAngel
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Post by PaperAngel on Oct 24, 2022 3:24:45 GMT
While I stopped buying letter stickers years ago for this reason plus inadequate amount of my frequently-used vowels & consonants, thin/non-cardstock weight, lack of stickiness, not labeled as acid-free/lignin-free/archival, & price per pack (especially considering the above), I opted to invest in dies (& a few stamps) in basic/usable fonts instead that can be cut using any paper & layered for dimension.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Oct 24, 2022 4:53:57 GMT
That is so frustrating!
I tend to go back and forth between: Doesn't stick well at all, have to add adhesive. Sticks too well, and not removable. If I am doing an alphabet title, and one letter is crooked. Try to remove it for re-positioning and it pull or tears the paper off.
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Post by papersilly on Oct 26, 2022 18:00:03 GMT
ugh, that would bug me too. that's why i always favored rub-ons over stickers. i always burnished stickers and they still felt like they would lift at any moment.
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chendra
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Jun 27, 2014 16:58:50 GMT
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Post by chendra on Oct 26, 2022 20:10:28 GMT
Even worse than not sticking to a page is when Thickers fall to the bottom of the package so I can’t even tell what letters I have. And yet they all stick to each other at the bottom of the package 😄
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