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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 0:35:18 GMT
So I am watching the news, and there is a "peaceful protest" on I-95 where the protesters have shut down traffic by walking on the highway.
How is it ok to infringe on others rights like this?
Can't they protest on the sidewalk? Protest in front of a courthouse on the sidewalk, in front of a police station on the sidewalk? What happens if someone in the cars either gets pissed and confronts a protester or a protester gets injured by a car that is allowed to be on the highway?
I'm sorry, but these protests are really out of control and as far as I can tell, useless.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Dec 6, 2014 0:43:54 GMT
They're an inconvenience, for sure, but I don't see that they are infringing on anybody's rights per se.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 0:47:07 GMT
The people have a right to not have their lives interrupted.
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Post by littlemama on Dec 6, 2014 0:47:29 GMT
I'm pretty sure that obstructing traffic is against the law.
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Post by elaine on Dec 6, 2014 0:48:45 GMT
So I am watching the news, and there is a "peaceful protest" on I-95 where the protesters have shut down traffic by walking on the highway. How is it ok to infringe on others rights like this? Can't they protest on the sidewalk? Protest in front of a courthouse on the sidewalk, in front of a police station on the sidewalk? What happens if someone in the cars either gets pissed and confronts a protester or a protester gets injured by a car that is allowed to be on the highway? I'm sorry, but these protests are really out of control and as far as I can tell, useless. Driving on a highway isn't a "right." Highways and streets are closed all the time for a variety of reasons. Every time I run a half marathon or 10K, streets and even highways (Army 10 Miler and Marine Corps Marathon) are closed to car traffic. I understand that protests can be inconvenient, but blocking roads isn't really infringing on someone else's "rights."
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Post by elaine on Dec 6, 2014 0:53:20 GMT
The people have a right to not have their lives interrupted. Umm, it took me 30 minutes to get to the grocery store today, instead of the usual 5 minutes, because they were doing road work. Should I have gotten out of my car and told the highway workers to stop interrupting my life? I get that it is inconvenient and a nuisance, (I'd be annoyed too) but I still don't see it as an infringement of your inalienable rights.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 0:55:22 GMT
So obviously violent protesting is no good, but now non-violent protesting isn't OK either? God forbid anyone be *inconvenienced* in anyway. I don't think that's a Constitutionally-protected right. People keep saying today's civil rights protestors should be more like MLK. Guess what? He used and advocated similar tactics. Source
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Post by cadoodlebug on Dec 6, 2014 0:55:48 GMT
So I am watching the news, and there is a "peaceful protest" on I-95 where the protesters have shut down traffic by walking on the highway. How is it ok to infringe on others rights like this? Can't they protest on the sidewalk? Protest in front of a courthouse on the sidewalk, in front of a police station on the sidewalk? What happens if someone in the cars either gets pissed and confronts a protester or a protester gets injured by a car that is allowed to be on the highway? I'm sorry, but these protests are really out of control and as far as I can tell, useless. Driving on a highway isn't a "right." Highways and streets are closed all the time for a variety of reasons. Every time I run a half marathon or 10K, streets and even highways (Army 10 Miler and Marine Corps Marathon) are closed to car traffic. I understand that protests can be inconvenient, but blocking roads isn't really infringing on someone else's "rights." I've never heard of closing an interstate highway for a marathon. And to the OP, if I was trying to get home after working all week and couldn't because they are protesting on the highway, I would be ticked. Protest in front of City Hall or the police station. The only thing they are accomplishing is pissing off a lot of people. ETA: I don't know about other states but in CA it is illegal to walk on the freeway.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 0:56:00 GMT
You don't have a right to not have your life interrupted. Drive a different route. There are always choices.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 1:06:27 GMT
There is no choice if you are not aware this will happen.
I have no problem with peaceful protests, but not in the middle of the highway. Sorry but that is my stance.
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Post by azredhead on Dec 6, 2014 1:08:55 GMT
They are laying down in malls and stores in NYC. I have so many issues with this as well.
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Dec 6, 2014 1:15:31 GMT
I agree that being on a major highway like I95 in the dark is inviting another kind of disaster involving the death of motorist and pedestrians - irresponsible.
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Post by cecelia on Dec 6, 2014 1:18:06 GMT
My local news reported that while permits are required for protests that block traffic, especially on highways, the protests occurring in the major city near me have been very peaceful so the police have only been observing from a distance and have not been issuing citations.
So far, my local news station shows a very large group of adults and children of all ages and races chanting and carrying signs. There has been no rioting, looting or destruction of property. They have even interviewed many drivers blocked in massive traffic who have said they are comfortable with the inconvenience because the protesters have been very peaceful. No one appears unnerved by this. It was also reported that there doesn't seem to be a specific "leader" or leaders involved but the crowd is building because of word of mouth and social media.
I hope it continues to stay peaceful.
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Post by scorpeao on Dec 6, 2014 1:20:43 GMT
As long as they aren't hurting anyone or looting I'm all for protesting by any means. When I get pissed is when people are hitting cars, jumping on them, smashing windows, etc.
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Post by M in Carolina on Dec 6, 2014 1:21:05 GMT
The thing about I-95 at least in Southern smaller towns, it's the ONLY way to get from point A to point B. More rural areas--than large cities, don't have multiple routes, so closing down the only thoroughfare to your town IS an incredible burden.
What if your were trying to get your sick family member to a hospital, which is 2 exits down the interstate, but you can't get there. The other route could take you out of the way by 30 miles. Look at a map of NC, I 95 is the main thoroughfare through the entire eastern part of the state.
I've been on I 95 when there's been a serious pileup with fatalities. It's not uncommon for that interstate to back up all the way into Virginia or SC because there's just no way around.
I even noticed in the photo of the "Bloody Sunday" protests, that they only took up half the bridge---there was a lane open.
Plus I don't think using Birmingham as an example of "peaceful protest" is the best idea. Somebody bombed the black church and killed innocent children. What happened in Birmingham was horrific and one of the darkest hours in our nation's history.
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Post by elaine on Dec 6, 2014 1:21:28 GMT
Driving on a highway isn't a "right." Highways and streets are closed all the time for a variety of reasons. Every time I run a half marathon or 10K, streets and even highways (Army 10 Miler and Marine Corps Marathon) are closed to car traffic. I understand that protests can be inconvenient, but blocking roads isn't really infringing on someone else's "rights." I've never heard of closing an interstate highway for a marathon. And to the OP, if I was trying to get home after working all week and couldn't because they are protesting on the highway, I would be ticked. Protest in front of City Hall or the police station. The only thing they are accomplishing is pissing off a lot of people. ETA: I don't know about other states but in CA it is illegal to walk on the freeway. It is pretty amazing to run on the highway for the big DC races - the Army 10 Miler and the Marine Corps Marathon 10K being the two I've done so far here. I'm running the Rock n Roll in March, but I don't know if the course will take us on the 110 or not. I also don't know whether they are considered part of highways, but when I ran the Pittsburgh Half in May most of the bridges in the city were closed because we ran across them. When I ran the Disneyland Half in August, the course didn't take us on a highway, but we shut down a good portion of the roads in Anaheim around the park. My my point is that roads and even highways ARE closed for a variety of reasons, some having nothing to do with road repair. We even have lanes on one of our main highways into DC that are closed to any traffic except during certain hours of the day. So, there can be a huge traffic snarl up with traffic at a standstill, and I still don't have the right to drive in that beautiful empty lane next to me. Nor can I actually drive on that highway east of the 495 and into DC before 9:30 am unless I have at least two people in my car. I have to get off of a perfectly good highway and take a circuitous route into the city unless I have the 2 person minimum. In California, you can't drive in a diamond lane with only one person in the car simply because traffic in the other lanes is interrupting your life. And I'm fairly certain it is legal to walk on parts of the Pacific Coast Highway (the 1) - at least I have over the years and never been ticketed. Driving unimpeded on highways isn't a right. Again, I know it is inconvenient and annoying to have a variety of things block your way as you drive - I would be annoyed too - but it isn't an infringement on rights.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 1:22:05 GMT
It wasn't the protestors who bombed the church in Birmingham. The violence was done by those opposed to the protestors. The protesters were non-violent.
And the bridge march - the open lane is going th other direction. Going into the city was completely blocked.
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Post by elaine on Dec 6, 2014 1:37:24 GMT
The thing about I-95 at least in Southern smaller towns, it's the ONLY way to get from point A to point B. More rural areas--than large cities, don't have multiple routes, so closing down the only thoroughfare to your town IS an incredible burden. What if your were trying to get your sick family member to a hospital, which is 2 exits down the interstate, but you can't get there. The other route could take you out of the way by 30 miles. Look at a map of NC, I 95 is the main thoroughfare through the entire eastern part of the state. I've been on I 95 when there's been a serious pileup with fatalities. It's not uncommon for that interstate to back up all the way into Virginia or SC because there's just no way around. I even noticed in the photo of the "Bloody Sunday" protests, that they only took up half the bridge---there was a lane open. Plus I don't think using Birmingham as an example of "peaceful protest" is the best idea. Somebody bombed the black church and killed innocent children. What happened in Birmingham was horrific and one of the darkest hours in our nation's history. The protests haven't been happening on rural I-95. In the places they are occurring, there are other routes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 1:38:35 GMT
Elaine, if you where already on I-95 heading to whatever, and you where not aware these protests where going to happen, how would you know to take a different route?
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Post by elaine on Dec 6, 2014 1:47:53 GMT
I usually listen to the traffic report on WTOP when I'm driving and there is traffic. I also don't think the protests were a surprise, so I probably would have known of the likelihood of a protest and avoided that part of town. But, if I was caught, I'd use my GPS and look for another route. All that being said, I live in DC and have been stuck on the highway a few times for 4 hours to get my child home from the doctor on a route than normally takes 45 minutes.
Traffic is annoying, maddening, and I would have been annoyed in your shoes, but it happens here so frequently that it is just part of life.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Dec 6, 2014 1:54:19 GMT
I've never heard of closing an interstate highway for a marathon. And to the OP, if I was trying to get home after working all week and couldn't because they are protesting on the highway, I would be ticked. Protest in front of City Hall or the police station. The only thing they are accomplishing is pissing off a lot of people. ETA: I don't know about other states but in CA it is illegal to walk on the freeway. It is pretty amazing to run on the highway for the big DC races - the Army 10 Miler and the Marine Corps Marathon 10K being the two I've done so far here. I'm running the Rock n Roll in March, but I don't know if the course will take us on the 110 or not. I also don't know whether they are considered part of highways, but when I ran the Pittsburgh Half in May most of the bridges in the city were closed because we ran across them. When I ran the Disneyland Half in August, the course didn't take us on a highway, but we shut down a good portion of the roads in Anaheim around the park. My my point is that roads and even highways ARE closed for a variety of reasons, some having nothing to do with road repair. We even have lanes on one of our main highways into DC that are closed to any traffic except during certain hours of the day. So, there can be a huge traffic snarl up with traffic at a standstill, and I still don't have the right to drive in that beautiful empty lane next to me. Nor can I actually drive on that highway east of the 495 and into DC before 9:30 am unless I have at least two people in my car. I have to get off of a perfectly good highway and take a circuitous route into the city unless I have the 2 person minimum. In California, you can't drive in a diamond lane with only one person in the car simply because traffic in the other lanes is interrupting your life. And I'm fairly certain it is legal to walk on parts of the Pacific Coast Highway (the 1) - at least I have over the years and never been ticketed. Driving unimpeded on highways isn't a right. Again, I know it is inconvenient and annoying to have a variety of things block your way as you drive - I would be annoyed too - but it isn't an infringement on rights. Yes, you can walk on hwy 1. I'm talking about major freeways/interstate highways. I agree it's an annoyance not necessarily an infringement. 
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 2:35:06 GMT
I fully support the right to peaceful protests, but overtaking and blocking roads (any roads) is just not cool in my book. What about doctors and nurses that are trying to get to work to save lives? Emergency personnel trying to get to that heart attack victim? Or all the people barely getting by, just trying to get to work and who will lose much-needed wages - or even their job - because they can't get to work on time?
I'll be honest and say that I get less sympathetic to 'the message' of protesters when they get extreme and create unnecessary hardship (not simply inconvenience) for others.
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Post by Fidget on Dec 6, 2014 2:49:04 GMT
I agree with the OP, people are trying to get to work or school or wherever they need to be. For some it could be critical that they get by. As far as roads being closed for marathons etc.. people in those areas know ahead of time and have plenty of time to plan ahead. For something like this they could be caught off guard.
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Post by azredhead on Dec 6, 2014 3:18:32 GMT
They also blocked entrances to a hospital in Boston?!!!  That happened a few weeks ago. I just don't understand that at all no matter where you stand on the issues. It doesn't help anyone.
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Post by moretimeplease on Dec 6, 2014 3:52:23 GMT
They blocked access to one of the terminals at my city's airport earlier today. That's NOT cool. I would be so ticked if I was flying and I missed my flight because of that!
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Post by Sarah*H on Dec 6, 2014 3:57:51 GMT
I have a hard time understanding why it's easier to expend energy complaining about how the protesters are inconveniencing you (in general) than complaining about the situations that led them to protest. Yeah, traffic gridlock is maddening. I'm sure it was pretty nasty when the sanitation workers went on strike in Memphis. Sometimes it takes a little bit of inconvenience and irritation to make the world stop rolling on as usual and get people to pay attention.
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Post by rebelyelle on Dec 6, 2014 4:25:50 GMT
I've never heard of closing an interstate highway for a marathon. And to the OP, if I was trying to get home after working all week and couldn't because they are protesting on the highway, I would be ticked. Protest in front of City Hall or the police station. The only thing they are accomplishing is pissing off a lot of people. ETA: I don't know about other states but in CA it is illegal to walk on the freeway. It is pretty amazing to run on the highway for the big DC races - the Army 10 Miler and the Marine Corps Marathon 10K being the two I've done so far here. I'm running the Rock n Roll in March, but I don't know if the course will take us on the 110 or not. I also don't know whether they are considered part of highways, but when I ran the Pittsburgh Half in May most of the bridges in the city were closed because we ran across them. When I ran the Disneyland Half in August, the course didn't take us on a highway, but we shut down a good portion of the roads in Anaheim around the park. My my point is that roads and even highways ARE closed for a variety of reasons, some having nothing to do with road repair. We even have lanes on one of our main highways into DC that are closed to any traffic except during certain hours of the day. So, there can be a huge traffic snarl up with traffic at a standstill, and I still don't have the right to drive in that beautiful empty lane next to me. Nor can I actually drive on that highway east of the 495 and into DC before 9:30 am unless I have at least two people in my car. I have to get off of a perfectly good highway and take a circuitous route into the city unless I have the 2 person minimum. In California, you can't drive in a diamond lane with only one person in the car simply because traffic in the other lanes is interrupting your life. And I'm fairly certain it is legal to walk on parts of the Pacific Coast Highway (the 1) - at least I have over the years and never been ticketed. Driving unimpeded on highways isn't a right. Again, I know it is inconvenient and annoying to have a variety of things block your way as you drive - I would be annoyed too - but it isn't an infringement on rights. Yes, to all of this. Unbeknownst to me, my MIL was flying out of Reagan Airport on a red-eye the morning of the MCM this past fall. We live in Arlington. You see where this is going, yes? EVERYTHING was shut down at 4:30 AM. I ended up having to stumble my way through back roads to get her there, and she nearly missed her flight. What is normally a 20-minute drive took an hour and a half, each way. Such a headache. But it was an annoyance, and not a transgression on my inalienable rights to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible. And don't even get me started on roadwork, presidential motorcades, or summer tourist nonsense. Road closures happen, for a LOT of reasons. It's not the end of the world, and it certainly isn't permanent. Peaceful protest should really be the least of anyone's concerns.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 4:28:54 GMT
I have a hard time understanding why it's easier to expend energy complaining about how the protesters are inconveniencing you (in general) than complaining about the situations that led them to protest. Yeah, traffic gridlock is maddening. I'm sure it was pretty nasty when the sanitation workers went on strike in Memphis. Sometimes it takes a little bit of inconvenience and irritation to make the world stop rolling on as usual and get people to pay attention. I don't find it hard to understand. After a short time, obstructive protesting loses support because it actually HURTS the community and does little to find a solution to the real issue(s). There are better ways to bring about change. Shutting down roadways and blocking businesses isn't the best way. It may garner coverage on the local (or even national) news for a bit, but destruction and obstruction won't get you very far in the long run. Instead, get involved. Mentor at-risk youths. Organize a committee for change. Don't punish your neighbors. L
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Dec 6, 2014 5:05:28 GMT
Well then, I must not be in the target audience, because these "peaceful protests" that block roads and create a danger to both protesters and drivers only serve to tick me off, and I'm a rather liberal person with regard to most social issues. It may make me enter negotiations, but you can bet I'm coming to the table in a pissy mood.
I am already aware there are people who are mightily angry about *insert whatever recent issue applies*. Making innocent people late for work/school/picking up children/etc. does absolutely nothing to garner my sympathy toward The Cause.
I fail to see how having no respect for me is going to make me have any respect for the protesters and, directly, their cause.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 6, 2014 5:13:10 GMT
They're an inconvenience, for sure, but I don't see that they are infringing on anybody's rights per se. You must never have driven on I-95.
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