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Post by onelasttime on Nov 15, 2022 23:10:21 GMT
Rick Scott is running for minority leader of the Senate. He feels the Republicans need to unite to advance a “bold conservative agenda”.
The question is what is a “bold conservative agenda”?
I almost responded to him by saying “The very definition of a bold conservative agenda is guaranteed to hurt those Americans who can least afford it at the same time benefiting those at the upper end of the economic spectrum who least need it”.
Anyone feel like offering their thoughts on what a bold conservative agenda might mean?
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 15, 2022 23:23:56 GMT
We should be alarmed.
I keep remembering that he is the one who wants to take an ax to SS and Medicare. So no, I don’t look forward to anything that he says.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 15, 2022 23:33:51 GMT
He had been taking from Medicare far longer then he has been a senator!
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Post by Scrapper100 on Nov 15, 2022 23:39:18 GMT
We should be alarmed. I keep remembering that he is the one who wants to take an ax to SS and Medicare. So no, I don’t look forward to anything that he says. That’s my first thought. He has a long list of things that will hurt a lot of people. But I keep hearing that no they won’t really do that as it effects too many people. I’m just too gullible or snd listening to the nasty liberals that twist stuff. Trying to explain that they have it clearly spelled out just falls on deaf ears. I really hope he doesn’t win but there are so many others that are scary as well. I also don’t think that most in my family has any idea all the things that they voted against in the last six months that hurt people. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Nov 15, 2022 23:45:12 GMT
We should be alarmed. I keep remembering that he is the one who wants to take an ax to SS and Medicare. So no, I don’t look forward to anything that he says. That’s my first thought. He has a long list of things that will hurt a lot of people. But I keep hearing that no they won’t really do that as it effects too many people. I’m just too gullible or snd listening to the nasty liberals that twist stuff. Trying to explain that they have it clearly spelled out just falls on deaf ears. I really hope he doesn’t win but there are so many others that are scary as well. I also don’t think that most in my family has any idea all the things that they voted against in the last six months that hurt people. And, "No, I/we won't touch Roe v Wade--it's established precedent!" You'd have to be gullible NOT to be dubious. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Nov 16, 2022 0:03:49 GMT
That’s my first thought. He has a long list of things that will hurt a lot of people. But I keep hearing that no they won’t really do that as it effects too many people. I’m just too gullible or snd listening to the nasty liberals that twist stuff. Trying to explain that they have it clearly spelled out just falls on deaf ears. I really hope he doesn’t win but there are so many others that are scary as well. I also don’t think that most in my family has any idea all the things that they voted against in the last six months that hurt people. And, "No, I/we won't touch Roe v Wade--it's established precedent!" You'd have to be gullible NOT to be dubious. EXACTLY I just moved on to keep the peace as I know nothing I say will change their minds. I just hope there isn’t an I told you so soon. I fear it may be happening soon. Right now there is a large increase in SS well the largest in a long time and a decrease in premiums for Medicare that should help those that need it most. I’m hoping that isn’t yanked back and worse in the near future. You would think that they voted against so many things they would wake up - gas prices, drug costs, VA healthcare, baby formula, insulin prices, bringing manufacturing back home with the new chips and I know there were a lot more. How anyone can see all those things that effect average Americans and not think that they don’t have their best interests at heart. I just don’t get it. |
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Post by ntsf on Nov 16, 2022 5:00:52 GMT
remember I think he was involved in massive medicare fraud.. such a charmer.
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Post by caangel on Nov 16, 2022 5:29:15 GMT
I have no idea but still waiting for that healthcare plan...
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 16, 2022 15:58:54 GMT
Rick Scott is the very definition of a ghoul. I would be very afraid of anything he would propose.
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Post by huskergal on Nov 16, 2022 16:03:27 GMT
I keep reminding myself that I will be retiring under the next President. What happens is very important to me. A bold Republican plan scares the shit out of me!
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Post by mom2jnk on Nov 16, 2022 17:09:56 GMT
Rick Scott is running for minority leader of the Senate. He feels the Republicans need to unite to advance a “bold conservative agenda”. The question is what is a “bold conservative agenda”? I almost responded to him by saying “The very definition of a bold conservative agenda is guaranteed to hurt those Americans who can least afford it at the same time benefiting those at the upper end of the economic spectrum who least need it”. Anyone feel like offering their thoughts on what a bold conservative agenda might mean? Oh, he already told us his "bold conservative agenda"...remember his "11 point plan?"  Rick Scott's plan"The plan is heavy on culture war controversies and traditional right-wing talking points. It starts with the claim that “the militant left now controls the entire federal government, the news media, academia, Hollywood, and most corporate boardrooms – but they want more.” It promises to have kids say the pledge of allegiance and to finish construction of Trump’s border wall — and name it after the ex-president. But Scott also proposes dramatic cuts to the federal government and calls for cutting the government workforce by 25% in five years. “Many government agencies should be either moved out of Washington or shuttered entirely,” the plan says." |
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 16, 2022 17:18:11 GMT
“The very definition of a bold conservative Democrat global socialist agenda is guaranteed to hurt those Americans who can least afford it at the same time benefiting those at the upper end of the economic spectrum who least need it”. There. Fixed that for you. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 16, 2022 17:32:24 GMT
“The very definition of a bold conservative Democrat global socialist agenda is guaranteed to hurt those Americans who can least afford it at the same time benefiting those at the upper end of the economic spectrum who least need it”. There. Fixed that for you. You are really just the poster child for red-pill delusion, aren't you. How will you feel when the people you voted for cut or take away your social security and medicare? |
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Post by Merge on Nov 16, 2022 17:34:13 GMT
I keep reminding myself that I will be retiring under the next President. What happens is very important to me. A bold Republican plan scares the shit out of me! Do Nebraska teachers get social security or do you have a state teacher retirement plan? |
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Post by inkedup on Nov 16, 2022 17:41:56 GMT
“The very definition of a bold conservative Democrat global socialist agenda is guaranteed to hurt those Americans who can least afford it at the same time benefiting those at the upper end of the economic spectrum who least need it”. There. Fixed that for you. Oh, lookie here. Another stupid dig at the evil left, dropped like a turd in a swimming pool and left to fester with no follow up from you. Must be hard living in a world filled with conspiracy and imagined persecution. |
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Post by vpohlman on Nov 16, 2022 18:03:05 GMT
I keep reminding myself that I will be retiring under the next President. What happens is very important to me. A bold Republican plan scares the shit out of me! Do Nebraska teachers get social security or do you have a state teacher retirement plan? Both, and we pay in to both. I'm a teacher, but won't get social security because my husband is a railroader. I still pay in to it, I'll just collect Railroad spouse retirement. I hear it's better and I will be able to choose SS over Railroad, but it's better to collect RR. I guess I'll see when we talk to someone from the RR about retirement, which is hopefully in 2 years! I worry about Medicare as well, because after we are retired that will be seriously necessary! Scares me! |
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Post by onelasttime on Nov 16, 2022 18:08:26 GMT
“The very definition of a bold conservative Democrat global socialist agenda is guaranteed to hurt those Americans who can least afford it at the same time benefiting those at the upper end of the economic spectrum who least need it”. There. Fixed that for you. 😂 Do you have any idea how your “fixing” makes absolutely no sense? But it did make for a good laugh. |
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Post by huskergal on Nov 16, 2022 19:22:12 GMT
I keep reminding myself that I will be retiring under the next President. What happens is very important to me. A bold Republican plan scares the shit out of me! Do Nebraska teachers get social security or do you have a state teacher retirement plan? We get both. |
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Post by huskergal on Nov 16, 2022 19:23:27 GMT
“The very definition of a bold conservative Democrat global socialist agenda is guaranteed to hurt those Americans who can least afford it at the same time benefiting those at the upper end of the economic spectrum who least need it”. There. Fixed that for you. Anything to back that up? |
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Post by hop2 on Nov 16, 2022 21:25:36 GMT
I keep reminding myself that I will be retiring under the next President. What happens is very important to me. A bold Republican plan scares the shit out of me! Well, with a bold Republican plan you might not be able to retire. Not just because of SS but they also plan to limit & gut Medicare |
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Post by hop2 on Nov 16, 2022 21:26:24 GMT
Do Nebraska teachers get social security or do you have a state teacher retirement plan? Both, and we pay in to both. I'm a teacher, but won't get social security because my husband is a railroader. I still pay in to it, I'll just collect Railroad spouse retirement. I hear it's better and I will be able to choose SS over Railroad, but it's better to collect RR. I guess I'll see when we talk to someone from the RR about retirement, which is hopefully in 2 years! I worry about Medicare as well, because after we are retired that will be seriously necessary! Scares me! May well be more stable than SS too |
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Post by silverlining on Nov 16, 2022 23:44:09 GMT
“The very definition of a bold conservative Democrat global socialist agenda is guaranteed to hurt those Americans who can least afford it at the same time benefiting those at the upper end of the economic spectrum who least need it”. There. Fixed that for you. Two questions... How does it help your argument to take something that is clear and well-written but that you disagree with and change it to make it ungrammatical and incoherent? Can you explain how socialism benefits those at the upper end of the economic spectrum? |
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 17, 2022 0:04:08 GMT
There. Fixed that for you. Two questions... How does it help your argument to take something that is clear and well-written but that you disagree with and change it to make it ungrammatical and incoherent? Can you explain how socialism benefits those at the upper end of the economic spectrum? I'm not sure if she can actually define socialism. I think she's just been indoctrinated against the evils of communism/ Marxism/ fascism/ socialism etc by conservative media & politicians. I know they're not interchangeable, but conservatives use them interchangeably to scare voters. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 17, 2022 1:22:10 GMT
“The very definition of a bold conservative Democrat global socialist agenda is guaranteed to hurt those Americans who can least afford it at the same time benefiting those at the upper end of the economic spectrum who least need it”. There. Fixed that for you. How does the Democrats agenda hurt those who can least afford it? By protecting SS and Medicare? By writing a law that actually helps Americans with healthcare? By trying to fix old, broken infrastructure? By promoting vaccines that help to reduce the effects of Covid? By supporting womens’ reproductive healthcare? By opposing banning books? (You know that the Nazis were book banners, right?) Yeah, those selfish bastard Dems. Or are you talking about inflation? You are old enough, as am I, to have lived through inflation before. It is global, and it will end. I mean, it could be worse. And what IS the Republican plan to combat inflation? If Republicans had won the Senate, we would be looking at tax cuts for the rich. |
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Post by hop2 on Nov 17, 2022 2:05:01 GMT
There. Fixed that for you. Two questions... How does it help your argument to take something that is clear and well-written but that you disagree with and change it to make it ungrammatical and incoherent? Can you explain how socialism benefits those at the upper end of the economic spectrum? Well, since the GOP is now claiming infrastructure, including water lines, trains & highways are socialism I assume you drink water or at least bathe in socialism from those water pipes & drive your vehicle on no those socialist highways 😜 Seriously though, everyone benefits from a healthy, well cared for housed population is a safer society for all of us. I feel sorry for those people who really think a healthy society is where each person grabs what they can and screw everyone else, that’s a sad sad way to live. You really think it’s balanced for Jeff bezos to sit on a yacht somewhere to collect billions off Amazon workers labor who aren’t even afforded time during their work day to deal with necessary bodily functions like peeing? That’s not balanced. |
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Post by inkedup on Nov 17, 2022 2:13:13 GMT
Two questions... How does it help your argument to take something that is clear and well-written but that you disagree with and change it to make it ungrammatical and incoherent? Can you explain how socialism benefits those at the upper end of the economic spectrum? I'm not sure if she can actually define socialism. I think she's just been indoctrinated against the evils of communism/ Marxism/ fascism/ socialism etc by conservative media & politicians. I know they're not interchangeable, but conservatives use them interchangeably to scare voters. I have angered many people by simply asking them to define socialism, communism and fascism without looking the definitions up. It is my experience that the people railing against these systems have no idea that they are separate political ideologies, nor can they articulate what, exactly, these ideologies entail. They're just scary terms that right wing propagandists use to whip the crowd into a frenzy. The right wingers eat it all up and bray as loudly as possible that something is COMMUNISM or SOCIALISM if it goes against their agenda. |
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