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Post by librarylady on Nov 18, 2022 0:33:30 GMT
Have you made any note of the 4 college students killed in Idaho? That story is "off" somehow. 4 students killed, stabbed to death.
Seems to me that it has to be at least 2 killers involved because how could 1 person overpower and stab 4 without the students fighting the killer off? Also, today they said 2 other people were in the house during the killing--and those 2 didn't call for help, and those 2 don't have a name to give the police? Also, the students were dead for hours before police were called. The facts are just not plausible to me, as reported by the news. |
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Post by littlemama on Nov 18, 2022 0:42:24 GMT
Well, without having all of the information that the police have, Im unwilling to speculate about the roommates. They are young and if their names get out, their lives will he ruined whether or not they had anything to do with it.
The police dont seem to be pointing at them as being involved and have stated that they think it was a targeted attack.
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Post by scrappinmom3 on Nov 18, 2022 0:45:38 GMT
Fishy, I would agree.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 18, 2022 0:55:10 GMT
There is a lot that is weird about this case. They were killed between 3 & 4 am, with the 911 call at 11 am by someone other than the two roommates which sounds like someone came looking for them. I can believe the other roommates did not hear a thing if there was no struggle. And it sounds like there was no struggle.  Living with roommates coming and going, they were used to a certain level of noise and it wouldn't be unusual to be sleeping with ear plugs. |
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 18, 2022 1:07:13 GMT
I went to college very near that college, so I've been following the news. The whole thing is just weird...
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Post by katlady on Nov 18, 2022 1:30:22 GMT
It is so sad! Those poor young people.
I think I read the other two girls had rooms on a different floor. So I can understand them not hearing anything. And if the others had their throats slashed, there could have been very little noise. It is also not unusual for college kids to sleep until noon, especially on a weekend. I guess there is video of a suspicious man watching two of the roommates as they got food from a food truck. I hope they find the killer soon.
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Post by epeanymous on Nov 18, 2022 1:57:16 GMT
It's awful (I posted briefly about it the day that the UVA shootings happened, although I had bad information at the time and thought the U of I students also had been shot). I have a co-worker who just graduated from there and has been following it very closely. It really sound like there isn't much to go on, other than perhaps a guy on camera by a food truck in the middle of the night who seemed to be trailing around the two young women who weren't in the couple.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 18, 2022 2:15:46 GMT
Supposedly a sister of one of the girls has advised all students to leave the school area. She says they are not safe. Does she have inside info that has not been released?
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Post by Bridget in MD on Nov 18, 2022 14:34:53 GMT
I've been following. It sounds like the two roommates were sleeping, and knowing college kids, they can sleep late and often have fans or noise cancelling machines or headphones so they can sleep. If they had been drinking, they may have slept heavier too.
What surprised me was the response of the university. They didnt lock things down for very long, and seem to think it was a target/one-off. I saw people complained they weren't very aggressive or focused on working to find these people or clues.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 18, 2022 16:01:12 GMT
It's a really bizarre story. I so feel for all the families involved that so little resolution seems to be forthcoming. Hopefully more is happening that isn't in the public domain.
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Post by nicolep on Nov 18, 2022 16:53:09 GMT
I was looking for a thread covering this story a few days ago.
I find this whole thing so bizarre (and utterly devastating for the families) and a million things not adding up.
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Post by manomo on Nov 18, 2022 17:08:52 GMT
What surprised me was the response of the university. They didnt lock things down for very long, and seem to think it was a target/one-off. I saw people complained they weren't very aggressive or focused on working to find these people or clues. The decision for the brief lockdown of the university was based on recommendation of the Moscow PD. I live ten minutes from the campus and because the PD had been so slow to respond publicly, people around here had been asking this question, “If they don’t have someone in custody and don’t have a motive, how do they know it was targeted and an isolated crime? And how do they know the public is safe?” It wasn’t until Wednesday afternoon that law enforcement FINALLY gave a press conference and acknowledged they don't even have a suspect and the community should remain vigilant. We were relieved to learn that Idaho State Police and, finally on Tuesday, the FBI was involved. I’m afraid the local PD is in over their head. |
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Post by sunnyd on Nov 18, 2022 19:34:07 GMT
I don't understand why the PD originally said there was no threat to the community. A mass killer is on the loose. OF COURSE, the community is in danger.
The only way the community would not be in danger would be if it were a murder-suicide, which they quickly ruled out or if the suspect was in custody.
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Post by manomo on Nov 18, 2022 21:01:10 GMT
I don't understand why the PD originally said there was no threat to the community. A mass killer is on the loose. OF COURSE, the community is in danger. The only way the community would not be in danger would be if it were a murder-suicide, which they quickly ruled out or if the suspect was in custody. Absolutely, it just seems like common sense to me. And this individual got up close and gruesomely killed these four young people and they are free, possibly still in this community. Even if they have left, they are an extreme danger to others wherever they are. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 18, 2022 21:29:26 GMT
This is not the time to hide information. The public safety should be the priority.
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Post by nicolep on Dec 1, 2022 17:08:56 GMT
Anyone else completely frustrated and furuous with the continuation of the police seemingly not knowing anything and/or not releasing nearly any information at all? Ugh.
I really really hope there are some answers for these poor families. I can't imagine.
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Post by epeanymous on Dec 1, 2022 17:21:46 GMT
Anyone else completely frustrated and furuous with the continuation of the police seemingly not knowing anything and/or not releasing nearly any information at all? Ugh. I really really hope there are some answers for these poor families. I can't imagine. I get that the police want to hold things back. I think in a community that small, however, it's going to be difficult for people to feel safe with the (miniscule) amount of information that has been released. |
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Post by nicolep on Dec 1, 2022 17:25:42 GMT
Anyone else completely frustrated and furuous with the continuation of the police seemingly not knowing anything and/or not releasing nearly any information at all? Ugh. I really really hope there are some answers for these poor families. I can't imagine. I get that the police want to hold things back. I think in a community that small, however, it's going to be difficult for people to feel safe with the (miniscule) amount of information that has been released. Absolutely. |
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Post by papersilly on Dec 1, 2022 18:58:05 GMT
I don't understand why the PD originally said there was no threat to the community. A mass killer is on the loose. OF COURSE, the community is in danger. The only way the community would not be in danger would be if it were a murder-suicide, which they quickly ruled out or if the suspect was in custody. or if the killings were specifically targeted towards one or more of the victims. they probably think the killer did what he came for and so he's not a danger to the public general. BUT he's still a danger because he's proven he can kill and mass kill at that. i remember when that whole OJ Simpon/Nicolle Simpson trial was going on. after OJ was acquitted, i remember the media asking random people if they felt unsafe with OJ being free. i remember lots of people in essense saying that they didn't feel threatened or unsafe because OJ didn't target them specifically.  what??? all of a sudden we shouldn't feel unsafe because a killer limited his killings only to specific people? crazy |
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Post by breetheflea on Dec 1, 2022 19:35:24 GMT
One of the articles I read, had a quote from one of the girls parents at the vigil last night, that two of the girls were sleeping in the same bed when they were killed (and had been best friends for years). So the killer only visited two rooms to kill four people not three. Which is an interesting fact not mentioned by law enforcement...
Reporters were last week trying to link this case to two other unsolved stabbing cases in the PNW since 2020. One in Washougal WA, and one in either Silverton or Salem, OR (I've heard both place names used.)
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Post by Layce on Dec 1, 2022 21:54:18 GMT
What are the true crime forums saying? I tried to look but only Websleuths, and I had a bit of difficulty maneuvering my way around those threads. Gave up.
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Post by Gennifer on Dec 1, 2022 21:55:44 GMT
i remember when that whole OJ Simpon/Nicolle Simpson trial was going on. after OJ was acquitted, i remember the media asking random people if they felt unsafe with OJ being free. i remember lots of people in essense saying that they didn't feel threatened or unsafe because OJ didn't target them specifically. what??? all of a sudden we shouldn't feel unsafe because a killer limited his killings only to specific people? crazy I have never felt threatened by the fact that OJ was free. I’m far more likely to be killed by someone I know than a stranger. 🤷🏼♀️ |
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Post by papersilly on Dec 1, 2022 22:24:26 GMT
i remember when that whole OJ Simpon/Nicolle Simpson trial was going on. after OJ was acquitted, i remember the media asking random people if they felt unsafe with OJ being free. i remember lots of people in essense saying that they didn't feel threatened or unsafe because OJ didn't target them specifically. what??? all of a sudden we shouldn't feel unsafe because a killer limited his killings only to specific people? crazy I have never felt threatened by the fact that OJ was free. I’m far more likely to be killed by someone I know than a stranger. 🤷🏼♀️isn't that a crazy statistic? we are more likely to be killed by someone familiar than a stranger. that is why there is no signs of forced entry---we let them in. that's why they took us to a secondary crime scene---because we knew them enough to get into a car with them. crazy. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Dec 1, 2022 22:39:01 GMT
Really. I'm sure the viciously murdered waiter, killed for doing the kindness of returning a guest's glasses, didn't think HE was a likely target for a murderer, either. Killers gonna' kill, folks. |
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Post by malibou on Dec 1, 2022 23:43:23 GMT
I agree that the police should be doing more to ease people's anxiety.
My money is on an incel.
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Post by auntkelly on Dec 2, 2022 3:38:28 GMT
I thought the statement the police spokesman made today was very unsettling. The spokesman said the police believe this was a targeted murder but they don’t know if the killer targeted the victims or the residence.
If the killer targeted the residence, does that just mean he set out to kill a stranger(s) and picked that residence because it was an easy mark?
If so, I would be very frightened if I lived anywhere near that community. This case is so bizarre. I hope the police have more leads than they are letting on.
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Post by wholarmor on Dec 2, 2022 16:28:02 GMT
I went to college very near that college, so I've been following the news. The whole thing is just weird... Are you a Cougar? I work at WSU and went to U of I. |
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Post by paget on Dec 2, 2022 16:40:14 GMT
I went to college very near that college, so I've been following the news. The whole thing is just weird... Are you a Cougar? I work at WSU and went to U of I. I’m a coug and dd3 graduated there 2 years ago and still has many friends in Pullman and Moscow so I’m following.  |
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Post by wholarmor on Dec 2, 2022 16:49:30 GMT
I live in the community(well, 7 miles across the border). I don't feel any less unsafe than before. Yes, it's a tragedy. Yes, I'd love for them to say "case solved." But it's only really big news because we don't usually get crimes like this. We have had mass shootings in the past, and even individual killings. Most of the deaths around here have been at the hands of people who knew the victim. I think speculation is the hard part about it.
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Post by breetheflea on Dec 2, 2022 17:11:02 GMT
I went to college very near that college, so I've been following the news. The whole thing is just weird... Are you a Cougar? I work at WSU and went to U of I. I went to Wazzu for a year before transferring to a different school. I spent a lot of time at the Palouse Mall that year  My roomate at my new school was also a transfer student, but from U of I. |
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what??? all of a sudden we shouldn't feel unsafe because a killer limited his killings only to specific people? crazy
