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Post by hop2 on Dec 12, 2022 1:24:16 GMT
The people who are having kids today are mostly young enough to have little knowledge of these diseases including polio and are much more likely to just not vaccinate their kids. They do not realize the big deal. Or they mistakenly think that since those diseases are pretty rare that vaccines are no longer necessary Polio will be back next. But who are the doctors who are taking care of these non-vaccinated babies? Are there really pediatricians who don't push vaccines? I remember my kids' pediatrician telling me (this was years ago) that she wouldn't even see non-vaccinated children in her practice. (obviously she meant kids who were old enough for whatever vaccines were given at that age, not babies who were too young...and also obviously not children who had some medical reason not receive a vaccine). If you were a patient of hers you rolled up your sleeve and got your vaccines. lol. Or your parents rolled up your sleeves for you.  đ€·ââïž I donât know who the doctors are, but there are some somewhere. They post bat crap crazy stuff on the internet. My Exâs Dr told him not to get the vaccine
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 12, 2022 17:50:16 GMT
Dr Tenpenny with her claims of people becoming magnetic after Covid vaccine, although her helpers at a hearing failed miserably.. spoons didn't stick,!!
The Health director, DeSantis hired, for the whole state is an anti-vaxxer..
The doctors who supported ivermectin and hydroxycholorquin...
There are more.
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Post by micheley on Dec 12, 2022 21:03:06 GMT
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Post by Merge on Dec 12, 2022 22:49:09 GMT
But who are the doctors who are taking care of these non-vaccinated babies? Are there really pediatricians who don't push vaccines? I remember my kids' pediatrician telling me (this was years ago) that she wouldn't even see non-vaccinated children in her practice. (obviously she meant kids who were old enough for whatever vaccines were given at that age, not babies who were too young...and also obviously not children who had some medical reason not receive a vaccine). If you were a patient of hers you rolled up your sleeve and got your vaccines. lol. Or your parents rolled up your sleeves for you. đ€·ââïž I donât know who the doctors are, but there are some somewhere. They post bat crap crazy stuff on the internet. My Exâs Dr told him not to get the vaccine A lot of hard-core anti-vaxxers don't take their kids for routine well care anyway. They see a chiropractor when they're sick or try to "cure" their kids with essential oils. I only wish I was joking.
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Post by aj2hall on Dec 13, 2022 5:03:31 GMT
This is local to me. Most of the cases are in kids under 2 who have only had the 1st vaccine. The 2nd one is at 2 years. If theyâve said where patient zero was I missed it. The cdc is here helping with the tracking. Because of the 8 day span of contagion and not knowing you have it for up to 21 days this will go on a little while. They do say where exactly the cases have visited in the public. A church, Meier store, Dollar Tree and the mall. hop2 I agree wholeheartedly polio will be back eventually. According to the county health department, it's actually the other way around. Most patients are unvaccinated. The county website states the vaccine status of 2 patients is unknown, 4 are partially vaccinated and 67 are unvaccinated. public.tableau.com/app/profile/columbus/viz/MeaslesPublicReport/MeaslesPublicReport?publish=yes
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Post by christine58 on Dec 13, 2022 11:50:26 GMT
Some of the problem delay and/or missed vaccines because of Covid isolation. So it is not all neglect. There are parents who do refuse. There was a major outbreak in the Yonkers area of NY. They actually isolated the whole neighborhood. They made special food delivers etc.. The situation will go beyond just measles in the future. I Believe that that major outbreak was within the Hasidic Jewish community. I also believe it happened during Covid when they continued to have huge gatherings
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Post by teddyw on Dec 13, 2022 11:53:46 GMT
This is local to me. Most of the cases are in kids under 2 who have only had the 1st vaccine. The 2nd one is at 2 years. If theyâve said where patient zero was I missed it. The cdc is here helping with the tracking. Because of the 8 day span of contagion and not knowing you have it for up to 21 days this will go on a little while. They do say where exactly the cases have visited in the public. A church, Meier store, Dollar Tree and the mall. hop2 I agree wholeheartedly polio will be back eventually. According to the county health department, it's actually the other way around. Â Most patients are unvaccinated. Â The county website states the vaccine status of 2 patients is unknown, 4 are partially vaccinated and 67 are unvaccinated. public.tableau.com/app/profile/columbus/viz/MeaslesPublicReport/MeaslesPublicReport?publish=yesThe city health department is also reporting that now also. Only 4 of the cases are in partially vaccinated kids.
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Post by christine58 on Dec 13, 2022 11:54:51 GMT
Well I was born in 1958 and had all of the vaccines available. However there were no vaccines for mumps, chickenpox, and when the measles one came out we were too old apparently. Measles went through my high school in my junior year. There was a huge outbreak at a neighboring school where the wrestling team went for sectional playoffs. A couple of kids who got measles ended up in the hospital. My brothers were fortunate in that Their cases were very mild. However I missed almost 2 weeks of school with the measles. It was the sickest I had been to that point. It was awful.
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Post by lesley on Dec 13, 2022 12:50:56 GMT
When I was 14, I had whooping cough and mumps at the same time. I honestly thought I was dying. The pain from mumps combined with the panic of not being able to breathe from coughing attacks was terrifying. I cannot imagine why any parent would willingly risk their children catching these avoidable diseases.
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Post by teddyw on Dec 13, 2022 13:48:26 GMT
Thanks for sharing that link. This one is direct and states facts along with their graphs. Some make it hard to get the facts.
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Post by chances on Dec 13, 2022 16:32:45 GMT
Just an FYI, while people may get the vaccine, it isn't 100% effective for everyone. I got all childhood vaccines and I have never been able to build and hold immunity to MMR and I have to get my pneumonia shot sooner than ever 5 years. There are also kids and adults who can not vaccinate for real reasons. I am pro vaccination but I am also fully aware of the other side because of immune issues, allergies, medical needs, etc. I am the sane. I actually had both the measles and mumps as an adult. I have a son who is not vaccinated against pertussis. It is contradicted by the manufacturer and the CDC as he has intractable Epilepsy and a history of Infantile Spasms. My Pediatrician, make that former Ped argued with me about it. I did my research, I even sent it to her, but she wouldnât hear of it. She insisted he had to get it. I refused and left that practice. My new Ped completely agrees with me and wrote me a letter to anyone who needs to see it on why he isnât vaccinated. I hadnât heard this. I also have epilepsy (adult onset) and received a DTP shot. Is it only a problem for children? Thanks for sharing.
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Post by scorpeao on Dec 13, 2022 20:44:40 GMT
Just an FYI, while people may get the vaccine, it isn't 100% effective for everyone. I got all childhood vaccines and I have never been able to build and hold immunity to MMR and I have to get my pneumonia shot sooner than ever 5 years. There are also kids and adults who can not vaccinate for real reasons. I am pro vaccination but I am also fully aware of the other side because of immune issues, allergies, medical needs, etc. This is why it's important to vaccinate everyone who can be vaccinated. Herd immunity protects everyone.
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Post by stormycat on Dec 13, 2022 21:43:14 GMT
I am the sane. I actually had both the measles and mumps as an adult. I have a son who is not vaccinated against pertussis. It is contradicted by the manufacturer and the CDC as he has intractable Epilepsy and a history of Infantile Spasms. My Pediatrician, make that former Ped argued with me about it. I did my research, I even sent it to her, but she wouldnât hear of it. She insisted he had to get it. I refused and left that practice. My new Ped completely agrees with me and wrote me a letter to anyone who needs to see it on why he isnât vaccinated. I hadnât heard this. I also have epilepsy (adult onset) and received a DTP shot. Is it only a problem for children? Thanks for sharing. Itâs actually the pertussis part that is the issue. In studies they have seen seizures associated with the pertussis vaccine. It is contraindicated in Intractable Epilepsy (uncontrolled) and those with a history of Infantile spasms, which my son also had. He recently had brain surgery as well, so I donât want to mess with anything Neurological. Iâm not sure if itâs the same as adults though. Hope you are doing well. My son has been seizure free since his surgery!
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Post by chances on Dec 14, 2022 0:53:52 GMT
I hadnât heard this. I also have epilepsy (adult onset) and received a DTP shot. Is it only a problem for children? Thanks for sharing. Itâs actually the pertussis part that is the issue. In studies they have seen seizures associated with the pertussis vaccine. It is contraindicated in Intractable Epilepsy (uncontrolled) and those with a history of Infantile spasms, which my son also had. He recently had brain surgery as well, so I donât want to mess with anything Neurological. Iâm not sure if itâs the same as adults though. Hope you are doing well. My son has been seizure free since his surgery! Congrats for your son! I will ask my neurologist about adults. My epilepsy is unfortunately uncontrolled but the new meds make the seizures much more manageable.
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