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Post by travelsoul on Dec 7, 2014 20:34:20 GMT
I'm sitting at Corner Bakery having lunch. It's crowded but there are a few empty tables. The table across from me seats 4 and is not a both. A lady eating alone comes and puts her number in the stand and leaves to get her drink. While she's gone a very elderly couple comes to sit at the table. The elderly women has a walker and it took her husband a few miniutes to help her get seated. The woman returned while the man is settling his wife in her seat. The woman tells the couple that she was there and asks them to move. The woman saw that it took a lot of effort to get the elderly woman seated and it took several minutes to get her out of her seat to move. Yet, she stood there and waited for this couple to move. Instead of saying it's ok and offering the couple the table. She could have easily moved. There are a few tables for two available that would have been harder for the elderly couple to use. All I can think about is someone doing this to my grandma. It's taking all my will not to say something.
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Post by lumo on Dec 7, 2014 20:38:01 GMT
Lame.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Dec 7, 2014 20:40:03 GMT
See, I am just nervy enough that I would have gotten up and intervened on the old couples behalf.
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Post by M in Carolina on Dec 7, 2014 20:40:28 GMT
The self centeredness of others really bothers me. I would have been furious. I know how difficult it is for my MIL to get out and about, but it's so good for her mental health.
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Post by gsquaredmom on Dec 7, 2014 20:41:14 GMT
I would have saud something. Maybe rsk being called rude myself, but I at least would gently have suggested to the woman that perhaps it would be easier to move. But I am like that.
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Post by Pahina722 on Dec 7, 2014 20:46:08 GMT
While I understand that you are upset for the old couple being asked to move, why did they sit at that table in the first place? Didn't you say that the woman had put her number on it indicating that it was taken? So do the older people just get a pass to take other people's tables?
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Dec 7, 2014 20:51:20 GMT
I am always amazed, yet never surprised, how classless some people are.
I guess I have reached the age where I don't give a shit anymore, I would have stopped by the table and said, hey nice manners, I guess if someone did that to your grandma you would be ok with that. Enjoy your meal.
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Post by travelsoul on Dec 7, 2014 20:52:04 GMT
While I understand that you are upset for the old couple being asked to move, why did they sit at that table in the first place? Didn't you say that the woman had put her number on it indicating that it was taken? So do the older people just get a pass to take other people's tables? They didn't see the number. The number is not easy to see as it mixes in with all the other menus sticking up off the table. They saw an empty table that was easily accessible to them and sat down.
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Post by gramma on Dec 7, 2014 21:02:12 GMT
This sort of self entitled "me first - I I have rights" attitude makes my blood boil.
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Post by yoko on Dec 7, 2014 21:06:39 GMT
Table for four and three people? Sounds like an opportunity to make some new friends I'm a Pollyanna that way.
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Post by lovemybabes on Dec 7, 2014 21:09:41 GMT
This makes my heart hurt. So sad.
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Post by chaosisapony on Dec 7, 2014 21:14:56 GMT
I would have thought them sitting there to begin with to be the rude part. But you have since posted that the number was not easily seen. Two rudes do not make a right. The gracious thing would have been for the lady to quietly walk up and pull her number off the table and move to a different one.
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Post by Really Red on Dec 7, 2014 21:15:41 GMT
I would have said something. Taken her aside and said something nicely.
But if you saw all this happening, why didn't you say something to the couple? I mean you knew it took her a long time to be seated and you saw the number on the table?
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Post by travelsoul on Dec 7, 2014 21:32:13 GMT
I would have said something. Taken her aside and said something nicely. But if you saw all this happening, why didn't you say something to the couple? I mean you knew it took her a long time to be seated and you saw the number on the table? I saw the woman place the number, but then I was playing on my phone. When I looked up the couple was sitting and at first thought they were with the woman. If I knew I could have been polite about it I would have said something. I usually speak up in situations where I think someone is in the wrong. Unfortunately, I have a short fuse and I've had plenty of do you want to take it outside moments in my life. Also, I was in a booth table where both sides of the booth were taken and I would have had to ask the kids sitting next to me to get up so I could. The restaurant was too loud for me to say something across the table. Lastly, I'm pregnant and didn't think getting my blood pressure up confronting the woman was worth it.
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Post by Nink on Dec 7, 2014 21:43:13 GMT
I would have said something. Taken her aside and said something nicely. But if you saw all this happening, why didn't you say something to the couple? I mean you knew it took her a long time to be seated and you saw the number on the table? If I knew I could have been polite about it I would have said something. I usually speak up in situations where I think someone is in the wrong. Unfortunately, I have a short fuse and I've had plenty of do you want to take it outside moments in my life. Also, I was in a booth table where both sides of the both were taken and I would have had to ask the kids sitting next to me to get up so I could. The restaurant was too loud for me to say something across the table. Lastly, I'm pregnant and didn't think getting my blood pressure up confronting the woman was worth it. I think she's referring to saying something to the older couple, as I was wondering the same thing. I've been in restaurants where people may not have noticed the table was taken, but before they get settled I've said "I think that table may be taken" and point to whatever is at the table to clue them in so they move on.
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Post by scorpeao on Dec 7, 2014 21:47:38 GMT
I would have offered the rude woman my table. I'm passively agressively nice that way.
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Post by travelsoul on Dec 7, 2014 21:48:35 GMT
If I knew I could have been polite about it I would have said something. I usually speak up in situations where I think someone is in the wrong. Unfortunately, I have a short fuse and I've had plenty of do you want to take it outside moments in my life. Also, I was in a booth table where both sides of the both were taken and I would have had to ask the kids sitting next to me to get up so I could. The restaurant was too loud for me to say something across the table. Lastly, I'm pregnant and didn't think getting my blood pressure up confronting the woman was worth it. I think she's referring to saying something to the older couple, as I was wondering the same thing. I've been in restaurants where people may not have noticed the table was taken, but before they get settled I've said "I think that table may be taken" and point to whatever is at the table to clue them in so they move on. Oops, I'm on my phone and added my reply to the wrong post. I saw the woman place the number but then I was playing on my phone. When I looked up the couple was getting seated and honestly I thought the couple was with the woman. She did pick a table for 4 when there were a few tables for two. It wasn't until the woman came back and said something to them that I realized they weren't with her. The elderly couple was embarrassed and apologetic so I know they didn't see the number.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 21:54:55 GMT
Did anyone else ever join the first woman?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 21:55:14 GMT
Maybe you should have said something. Or looked around for John Quinones.
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Post by hennybutton on Dec 7, 2014 21:57:49 GMT
I go to Corner Bakery about once a week. I'm going to play advocate for the first lady's team here. She put her number on the table, THEN went to get her drink. Clearly, trying to juggle the number and her drink, and whatever else she was carrying would have been more than she wanted to deal with. (Did she leave anything else at the table?) Also, she may have been a bit compulsive about the part of the dining room that she likes to sit in. When I go to my closest one by myself, I like to sit at one of the two-person tables by the window. It's my preference unless the sun is hitting the table. When I have to sit at a two-person table next to the half-wall, I feel a bit closed in, but it's my second choice. It's also a bit dark there. I don't like the two-person tables that are lined up along that long bench. I just don't like sitting side-by-side with strangers. I go to Corner Bakery for a nice lunch, the Black Currant iced tea, and to spend some time reading. Now, I wouldn't have kicked the older couple out of the booth because of the walker. But, if there wasn't a walker, I would have said, "I'm sorry, but I was sitting here." and pointed at the number. The couple should have noticed a number in the holder anyway because they would have had to put their number in it.
Anyhow, it's possible that the first woman is a bit OCD. She may be a regular who prefers to sit at the same table every time she goes there and she may have gotten a bit freaked out to get back to her table to find someone else sitting there. You said it was too loud for you to say anything to her, therefore it was too loud for you to hear what was said between the parties. Maybe she did offer to let them sit there, but she needed her number back so she could get her food. When asking for it, maybe they insisted that they should be the ones to move. She's kind of stuck if they start getting up and she can't get her number so she can move to another table. She has no choice but to wait. Elderly people can be really stubborn and difficult to reason with. Often, the just do what they're going to do and nothing will stop them. If they decided that they were to be the ones to move, it's likely she was powerless in the situation.
What I'm saying is that you're putting an interpretation on what you saw. However, it's entirely possible that the whole situation went down in a different way.
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Post by travelsoul on Dec 7, 2014 22:00:09 GMT
Did anyone else ever join the first woman? No. Unless someone did after I left.
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Post by travelsoul on Dec 7, 2014 22:05:30 GMT
I go to Corner Bakery about once a week. I'm going to play advocate for the first lady's team here. She put her number on the table, THEN went to get her drink. Clearly, trying to juggle the number and her drink, and whatever else she was carrying would have been more than she wanted to deal with. (Did she leave anything else at the table?) Also, she may have been a bit compulsive about the part of the dining room that she likes to sit in. When I go to my closest one by myself, I like to sit at one of the two-person tables by the window. It's my preference unless the sun is hitting the table. When I have to sit at a two-person table next to the half-wall, I feel a bit closed in, but it's my second choice. It's also a bit dark there. I don't like the two-person tables that are lined up along that long bench. I just don't like sitting side-by-side with strangers. I go to Corner Bakery for a nice lunch, the Black Currant iced tea, and to spend some time reading. Now, I wouldn't have kicked the older couple out of the booth because of the walker. But, if there wasn't a walker, I would have said, "I'm sorry, but I was sitting here." and pointed at the number. The couple should have noticed a number in the holder anyway because they would have had to put their number in it. Anyhow, it's possible that the first woman is a bit OCD. She may be a regular who prefers to sit at the same table every time she goes there and she may have gotten a bit freaked out to get back to her table to find someone else sitting there. You said it was too loud for you to say anything to her, therefore it was too loud for you to hear what was said between the parties. Maybe she did offer to let them sit there, but she needed her number back so she could get her food. When asking for it, maybe they insisted that they should be the ones to move. She's kind of stuck if they start getting up and she can't get her number so she can move to another table. She has no choice but to wait. Elderly people can be really stubborn and difficult to reason with. Often, the just do what they're going to do and nothing will stop them. If they decided that they were to be the ones to move, it's likely she was powerless in the situation. What I'm saying is that you're putting an interpretation on what you saw. However, it's entirely possible that the whole situation went down in a different way. Sure, there could always be more to the story. I'm just an observer from afar. She was in her 20s, she wasn't carrying anything else, she didn't leave anything at the table. They deliver the food to the table so she wasn't alreadycarrying her tray and it hadn't been delivered. Really there was no reason why she couldn't have chose a different table (unless, as you said, she had some crazy OCD for that table)
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Post by hennybutton on Dec 7, 2014 22:19:57 GMT
I go to Corner Bakery about once a week. I'm going to play advocate for the first lady's team here. She put her number on the table, THEN went to get her drink. Clearly, trying to juggle the number and her drink, and whatever else she was carrying would have been more than she wanted to deal with. (Did she leave anything else at the table?) Also, she may have been a bit compulsive about the part of the dining room that she likes to sit in. When I go to my closest one by myself, I like to sit at one of the two-person tables by the window. It's my preference unless the sun is hitting the table. When I have to sit at a two-person table next to the half-wall, I feel a bit closed in, but it's my second choice. It's also a bit dark there. I don't like the two-person tables that are lined up along that long bench. I just don't like sitting side-by-side with strangers. I go to Corner Bakery for a nice lunch, the Black Currant iced tea, and to spend some time reading. Now, I wouldn't have kicked the older couple out of the booth because of the walker. But, if there wasn't a walker, I would have said, "I'm sorry, but I was sitting here." and pointed at the number. The couple should have noticed a number in the holder anyway because they would have had to put their number in it. Anyhow, it's possible that the first woman is a bit OCD. She may be a regular who prefers to sit at the same table every time she goes there and she may have gotten a bit freaked out to get back to her table to find someone else sitting there. You said it was too loud for you to say anything to her, therefore it was too loud for you to hear what was said between the parties. Maybe she did offer to let them sit there, but she needed her number back so she could get her food. When asking for it, maybe they insisted that they should be the ones to move. She's kind of stuck if they start getting up and she can't get her number so she can move to another table. She has no choice but to wait. Elderly people can be really stubborn and difficult to reason with. Often, the just do what they're going to do and nothing will stop them. If they decided that they were to be the ones to move, it's likely she was powerless in the situation. What I'm saying is that you're putting an interpretation on what you saw. However, it's entirely possible that the whole situation went down in a different way. Sure, there could always be more to the story. I'm just an observer from afar. She was in her 20s, she wasn't carrying anything else, she didn't leave anything at the table. They deliver the food to the table so she wasn't alreadycarrying her tray and it hadn't been delivered. Really there was no reason why she couldn't have chose a different table (unless, as you said, she had some crazy OCD for that table) Or, she was waiting for members of her group that hadn't shown up yet. I just don't think it's good policy to make assumptions without all the facts. And, like I also said, it's possible that the couple insisted on relinquishing the table and got up, not letting her get her number so she could move to another table. That's how elderly people get sometimes too.
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Post by maryland on Dec 7, 2014 22:24:27 GMT
That is so rude! I always think that it could be my grandfather/grandmother. I hate when people are rude to anyone (men, women, kids) but I especially can't stand when people are rude to elderly people. I see how hard it is for people to get around when they are older and can't stand when people treat them like that.
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Post by librarylady on Dec 7, 2014 22:28:12 GMT
See, I am just nervy enough that I would have gotten up and intervened on the old couples behalf.
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Post by bosoxbeth on Dec 8, 2014 5:23:22 GMT
This story makes me so sad. How awful. Rude and unkind.
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Post by Country Ham on Dec 8, 2014 5:32:32 GMT
Did you offer your table to the elderly couple?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 19:15:22 GMT
See, I am just nervy enough that I would have gotten up and intervened on the old couples behalf.
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Dec 8, 2014 19:24:57 GMT
The things that gets me is that she was rude to the elderly. I hate it when people are mean to old people.
If it were a younger couple it wouldn't have been that big of a deal even though it was still rude. The fact that she made them move really pisses me off.
I hope she gets coal in her stocking!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 19:41:08 GMT
While I understand that you are upset for the old couple being asked to move, why did they sit at that table in the first place? Didn't you say that the woman had put her number on it indicating that it was taken? So do the older people just get a pass to take other people's tables? I don't agree that a number saves you a table. You need to be sitting there to claim your spot.
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