used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 7, 2023 0:41:16 GMT
Idk now I see he’s talking about his survival training as a pilot, which is absolutely not allowed in the US. Does the British military screen for drug use? Or geez does US immigration for that matter? What a life of privilege he’s led to have so many complaints. 😬 What does this mean? Sorry if I am missing the point (Im home sick and not really following anything today). What's he saying and why wouldn't it be allowed in the US? The survival training is highly classified in the US. It’s not allowed to be talked about what they go through. I’m just curious the difference that seems to be but maybe it’s all just since he’s Royal since the drug stuff doesn’t seem to have mattered. 🤷♀️
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Post by vspindler on Jan 7, 2023 1:13:49 GMT
The one thing I’m kind of questioning as problematic out of what I’ve seen released is the physical altercation that Prince William had with Harry, where William grabbed/pushed Harry, tore his shirt, broke his necklace, and in pushing him sent him onto the dog dish which broke and scraped up Harry. I don’t have a lot of confidence in the accuracy of most of what H&M say, but this kind of bothers me even if partially true.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2023 3:03:53 GMT
Here's some interesting news...Harry was NOT best man to William at his wedding.
Must have been another one of those global mass hallucination events.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2023 3:47:02 GMT
So if he wasn't the best man, why did he give a speech including 'big willy' jokes? That's a valid question....and wouldn't we all love someone to ask Harry that and hear his reply in real time? Everything they do is pre-recorded, so we never get real questions or answers.
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Post by librarylady on Jan 7, 2023 3:50:42 GMT
In my world the best man is standing very near the groom for the ceremony. Did Harry not do this? Were photos taken that show someone else near William?
I don't understand that he would have embarrassed 2 friends. Someone explain this.
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Post by amp on Jan 7, 2023 4:08:40 GMT
I've said this before, I think if Harry had a different spouse, his life would be different. Had he married someone, who accepted their part and role in Royal life it would be a whole different outcome and way of life. They would have done outings as a couple and separately, very similar to what William and Kate do. If he married someone who influenced and encouraged his part in Royal life in a positive way, he would have likely have stayed and been a part of the Royal team. I think Megan thought she would move over there, swoop in and be the next Princess Diana, live a princess life (lunch with girlfriends, shopping, an occasional royal appearance, wear the Royal jewels and gowns, doing whatever she wanted, that she would be worshipped, etc...). Instead she encountered with rules, hierarchy, expectations of duty, and told "no, you can going out to lunch and shopping with your friends". I think she severely disliked being "second" to William and Kate. You walk behind them, stand behind them, they get the prime duties, Kate gets first choice when wearing Royal jewels and tiaras, etc.. Megan did not like that one bit. From what I read, Megan was also very unkind to the staff. Up until he met Megan, he was an active Royal, had a good relationship with William and Kate. E X A C T L Y!!!
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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2023 4:12:32 GMT
That's the problem...no-one has any explanations for all these hand grenades he's throwing out there. Billions of people watched William's wedding and we all saw Harry doing the things a best man does - and now he's claiming it was all a "bare-faced lie" I don't understand how that works.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2023 4:17:22 GMT
*snort*
"Harry has a frozen knob, frozen knob...icy penis"
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Post by mom on Jan 7, 2023 4:50:25 GMT
So if he wasn't the best man, why did he give a speech including 'big willy' jokes? That's a valid question....and wouldn't we all love someone to ask Harry that and hear his reply in real time? Everything they do is pre-recorded, so we never get real questions or answers. Just wanted to say - I deleted my post before I realized you had responded. They are such a joke and we could go in circles all day pointing out their lies and inconsistency. They just drive me bonkers!
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Post by mom on Jan 7, 2023 6:37:18 GMT
Did I miss us talking about Harry saying he took their baby home in a box (that was miscarried) and buried the baby under a banyan tree? Is that even legal? I am fairly certain it's not. The miscarried remains (before 20 weeks) must either go to a mortuary or be disposed of thru the hospital. I work with the March of Dimes and have never heard of a hospital just sending home the baby home in a box. www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/prince-harry-reflects-on-the-days-after-meghan-markles-miscarriage/He says: We left the hospital with our unborn child. A tiny package. We went to a place, a secret place only we knew,” the Duke of Sussex, 38, wrote in an excerpt, which Us Weekly can exclusively reveal. “Under a spreading banyan tree, while Meg wept, I dug a hole with my hands and set the tiny package softly in the ground.”
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Post by gillyp on Jan 7, 2023 8:34:59 GMT
I can not believe this drivel was written while her Majesty was alive and it was planned to be published at this time in any event. Thank heavens both she and the Duke of Edinburgh have passed and are not seeing any of this. Not a best man for William? There will be plenty of people from the reception who will be able to give an account of the speeches etc.. A banyan tree? Even I am capable of a quick Google search and can see Banyans do not grow north of Florida. As mom says, is what he’s claiming even legal? The writing sounds very like Meghan’s assertion that she and Harry were married the day before their public wedding, in a private ceremony by the Archbishop of Canterbury - who had to issue a statement that this was not true! My head is going to drop off with all the exasperated shaking I’m doing.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2023 10:15:35 GMT
I'm not going to touch that last one, except to say that for some reason they lied about all the details of Archie's birth, even who the godparents are is "private" yet is Harry is now telling the world what they did with their fetal tissue?
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Post by Jockscrap on Jan 7, 2023 10:28:11 GMT
Extracts published in The Times from Spare read: “When there were no other kids around, no common enemies, Willy and I used to fight each other.
“Most of the time it happened in the back seat of the car while our father was taking us somewhere. To a field camp. Or go salmon fishing.
“Once in Scotland, on the way to the River Spey, we began to argue, and soon a pitched battle broke out. The one where we were rolling back and forth, trading punches.
“My father did not feel the need to explain. Outside Willy turned on me, furious. He was under the impression that I always got my way.
“He got out of the car, headed decisively to the vehicle where the bodyguards were travelling, got in and fastened his seat belt (since the loss of my mother, we always fastened our seatbelts).
“The convoy resumed. From time to time, he turned to look at me through the back window. I caught a glimpse of the future King of England, plotting his revenge.”
This is dramatic stuff: siblings squabbling in the back seat of the car on a long car journey. Dear me.
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Post by gar on Jan 7, 2023 11:48:01 GMT
What is he on about??
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Post by peabay on Jan 7, 2023 12:17:39 GMT
Extracts published in The Times from Spare read: “When there were no other kids around, no common enemies, Willy and I used to fight each other. “Most of the time it happened in the back seat of the car while our father was taking us somewhere. To a field camp. Or go salmon fishing. “Once in Scotland, on the way to the River Spey, we began to argue, and soon a pitched battle broke out. The one where we were rolling back and forth, trading punches. “My father did not feel the need to explain. Outside Willy turned on me, furious. He was under the impression that I always got my way. “He got out of the car, headed decisively to the vehicle where the bodyguards were travelling, got in and fastened his seat belt (since the loss of my mother, we always fastened our seatbelts). “The convoy resumed. From time to time, he turned to look at me through the back window. I caught a glimpse of the future King of England, plotting his revenge.” This is dramatic stuff: siblings squabbling in the back seat of the car on a long car journey. Dear me. My boy cousins had a fight once and one of them threw a pair of scissors at the other and the scissors landed, blade first, in the chair my other cousin was sitting in, about a millimeter from my other cousin’s ear. A friend of mine was rough housing with his twin brother when an errant kick to his back required his spleen to be removed. Those are two way more interesting sibling fight stories. Again, he’s a self-important BORE.
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Post by wellway on Jan 7, 2023 13:29:51 GMT
Extracts published in The Times from Spare read: “When there were no other kids around, no common enemies, Willy and I used to fight each other. “Most of the time it happened in the back seat of the car while our father was taking us somewhere. To a field camp. Or go salmon fishing. “Once in Scotland, on the way to the River Spey, we began to argue, and soon a pitched battle broke out. The one where we were rolling back and forth, trading punches. “My father did not feel the need to explain. Outside Willy turned on me, furious. He was under the impression that I always got my way. “He got out of the car, headed decisively to the vehicle where the bodyguards were travelling, got in and fastened his seat belt (since the loss of my mother, we always fastened our seatbelts). “The convoy resumed. From time to time, he turned to look at me through the back window. I caught a glimpse of the future King of England, plotting his revenge.”This is dramatic stuff: siblings squabbling in the back seat of the car on a long car journey. Dear me. I notice that he paints a picture that William should always have been perfect even as a child. Any of us with siblings will recognise the dreaded car journey with your annoying brothers! And your father picking the sports match on the car radio instead of the music station. We had to suffer all the way to our destination, no second car to decamp to. There's privilege for you!
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Post by mich5481 on Jan 7, 2023 14:34:02 GMT
You know, I find that part about always wearing seatbelts since Diana died interesting.
He's blamed the paparazzi for years for killing his mother, but I don't know that he's ever figured out that a drunk driver and a lack of seat belts were also at fault.
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Post by auntkelly on Jan 7, 2023 14:35:28 GMT
I just wish there had been a bodyguard car following us when I used to fight w/ my older brother in the back seat of the car. I would have loved to have jumped in the bodyguard car and plotted my revenge against my brother instead of having to share the back seat with him the entire time. (Now that we are adults, my big brother is one of my favorite people in the world).
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 7, 2023 14:44:27 GMT
“Once in Scotland, on the way to the River Spey, we began to argue, and soon a pitched battle broke out. The one where we were rolling back and forth, trading punches. Wow. Kids fighting on a long car trip. That's some hard-hitting journalism right there. Somebody's getting a Pulitzer. Prince Charles: "I'll turn this car around if you little wankers don't knock it off right now!" Sounds like me on the way to Disney World, except for the "wankers" part. Regrettably, we had no security detail, but I would gladly have placed them in the next passing car. I've heard them called "The Ginger and the Whinger." Pretty much sums it up.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 7, 2023 15:09:55 GMT
“Once in Scotland, on the way to the River Spey, we began to argue, and soon a pitched battle broke out. The one where we were rolling back and forth, trading punches. Wow. Kids fighting on a long car trip. That's some hard-hitting journalism right there. Somebody's getting a Pulitzer. Prince Charles: "I'll turn this car around if you little wankers don't knock it off right now!" Sounds like me on the way to Disney World, except for the "wankers" part. Regrettably, we had no security detail, but I would gladly have placed them in the next passing car. I've heard them called "The Ginger and the Whinger." Pretty much sums it up. I needed that security detail following - once my sister and I were in the backseat of my mom's station wagon. The entire back seats were down so it was one long trunk. We had sleeping bags spread out - no seatbelts AT ALL (this was in the early 1980s). We were fighting and my mom got pissed and slammed on the breaks. I remember sliding all the way back on my sleeping bag. she yanked me out and left me on the side of the road. I remember clawing at the wooden panelling as she drove away (by the way, we were in a vacation town, not my hometown either). I could have used that security detail to pick me up. Oh well. Joke was on her tho bc I started walking so when she circled around and I wasn't where she left me, she panicked. Obviously, this wouldnt fly in these days and she HATES it when I tell the story, esp when I reminder her that she kept my sister but left me!
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Post by Jockscrap on Jan 7, 2023 15:22:06 GMT
Wow. Kids fighting on a long car trip. That's some hard-hitting journalism right there. Somebody's getting a Pulitzer. Prince Charles: "I'll turn this car around if you little wankers don't knock it off right now!" Sounds like me on the way to Disney World, except for the "wankers" part. Regrettably, we had no security detail, but I would gladly have placed them in the next passing car. I've heard them called "The Ginger and the Whinger." Pretty much sums it up. I needed that security detail following - once my sister and I were in the backseat of my mom's station wagon. The entire back seats were down so it was one long trunk. We had sleeping bags spread out - no seatbelts AT ALL (this was in the early 1980s). We were fighting and my mom got pissed and slammed on the breaks. I remember sliding all the way back on my sleeping back. she yanked me out and left me on the side of the road. I remember clawing at the wooden panelling as she drove away (by the way, we were in a vacation town, not my hometown either). I could have used that security detail to pick me up. Oh well. Joke was on her tho bc I started walking so when she circled around and I wasn't where she left me, she panicked. Obviously, this wouldnt fly in these days and she HATES it when I tell the story, esp when I reminder her that she kept my sister but left me! Now that is a story for a book!
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Post by lesley on Jan 7, 2023 15:31:39 GMT
I am a bit bemused by him referring to William as the future “King of England” when such a title does not exist. 🤔
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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2023 15:35:05 GMT
Another deep, well thought out insight from Prince Harry's amazing life...
What a catch! Aren't we all sorry we missed out on this man ladies?
And I just realised this thread was started to discuss the upcoming interviews...and we are 5 pages in and the interviews haven't even aired yet. Considering they were pre-recorded, I wonder how silly the interviewers feel now given everything that has come out in the leaked book?
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 7, 2023 15:42:02 GMT
Another deep, well thought out insight from Prince Harry's amazing life... What a catch! Aren't we all sorry we missed out on this man ladies?And I just realised this thread was started to discuss the upcoming interviews...and we are 5 pages in and the interviews haven't even aired yet. Considering they were pre-recorded, I wonder how silly the interviewers feel now given everything that has come out in the leaked book? OMG I am dying. This truly has become a shitshow circus. I told my friend that it's like Harry is a monkey in the zoo, flinging poop at any spectator who came to see him (and FTR, I know a monkey was used in an awful nasty picture of H&M leaving the hospital with Archie and I mean ZERO reference to that picture. It was disgusting and heartbreaking. I have, however, been at a zoo where the orangatans literally picked up poop and flung it at the window at us while we watched them. I dont really know any other animal who does that, so that is what I mean by this reference). ETA: as for the interviews, I mean, it's supposedly all about how Harry wants his family back. Before these exerpts, I guess people would think "aw, come on, Chuck & Wills, have a heart, give him a hug." BUt now??? NFW.
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Post by wellway on Jan 7, 2023 15:48:21 GMT
I am a bit bemused by him referring to William as the future “King of England” when such a title does not exist. 🤔 According to this BBC article there was a ghost writer, details like that probably past by any checking process www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64185688From the article, this made me laugh, ...blander?! Spare might have Harry's name on the cover, but it was written with JR Moehringer, a prolific ghostwriter of celebrity memoirs who made his name writing Andre Agassi's bombshell autobiography in 2009. "The American publishers were very smart to get him in the room with Harry," says Mr Denny. "I think if Harry had written the book himself, it would have been a bit blander. But I think this guy's pulled out and worked on these themes and made the book much more interesting."
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Post by pjaye on Jan 7, 2023 16:10:43 GMT
What the actual fuck? Just how disengaged from reality is he?
Dude, that's called a JOB and most of the rest of the world have one - we go there every day, do what we are told, go where we are sent, keep our mouths shut about personal opinions and in return they give us money and we are expected to feed and clothe ourselves. There's no largesse involved for any of us either.
So his father is also his boss? You know what? - there are literally millions of family businesses all over the word where one member of the family is the boss of others. His situation isn't that different - and he needs to stop claiming it is and that we plebs possibly understand.
Harry seems to actually believe he's living in the time of the medieval royals...and that he should be able access unlimited amounts of money and not be accountable to anyone for it, do only the things he wants to, when he wants to, as well as being free to behave in whatever way he wants.
Mind boggling.
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Post by scraplette on Jan 7, 2023 16:18:43 GMT
The Royals, they are just like us?
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Post by mom on Jan 7, 2023 17:26:03 GMT
The one thing I’m kind of questioning as problematic out of what I’ve seen released is the physical altercation that Prince William had with Harry, where William grabbed/pushed Harry, tore his shirt, broke his necklace, and in pushing him sent him onto the dog dish which broke and scraped up Harry. I don’t have a lot of confidence in the accuracy of most of what H&M say, but this kind of bothers me even if partially true. I've been thinking about your post. A lot. 1. I think we have to take this whole statement about what happened with a big grain of salt. Do I think William and Harry got into a verbal argument? Yes. Do I think William attacked Harry, physically? Without more proof, no. William has handled this whole freaking mess with Harry with more restraint than what most could have. William could have easily attacked him publicly and no one would have blamed him. But he hasn't (and yes, I know there are reports that William is feeding things to the press. Again, short of proof...). 2. They are brothers and EVEN IF something happened physically between them, I almost expect it. No, violence is never the answer, but as a mother of two boys (who, ironically, are much like William and Harry in how they behave), I can absolutely see them becoming physical with each other. My oldest is more like Harry with his mental state and how 'recollections may vary' when he is in a not-good mental state, and the youngest more like William. My DS2 puts up with a lot from his older brother. A LOT (much like William). And DS1 gets a lot of 'grace' because of his mental state and how hard things can be for him. But when the youngest gets a gut full, he explodes. I can imagine a situation where William just got a gut full. Is violence ever the answer? Not usually. But sometimes a physical fight happens between brothers -- especially when there has been so much anger and jealousy between the two of them. IMHO if Harry wanted to put this information out there for the world, he should have done so when it happened. Get it documented with photos of the injuries, broken bowl, etc. But he didn't. He brought it out years later and after much of what he has said has been confirmed as a lie. It's like the boy who cried wolf too many times. It's just hard to believe it happened.
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Post by mom on Jan 7, 2023 17:30:26 GMT
I am a bit bemused by him referring to William as the future “King of England” when such a title does not exist. 🤔 According to this BBC article there was a ghost writer, details like that probably past by any checking process www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64185688From the article, this made me laugh, ...blander?! Spare might have Harry's name on the cover, but it was written with JR Moehringer, a prolific ghostwriter of celebrity memoirs who made his name writing Andre Agassi's bombshell autobiography in 2009. "The American publishers were very smart to get him in the room with Harry," says Mr Denny. "I think if Harry had written the book himself, it would have been a bit blander. But I think this guy's pulled out and worked on these themes and made the book much more interesting." I know Charles supposedly made a comment about Harry being the spare --- has anyone but Harry confirmed this account? With Harry being only hours old, I assume he isn't the one who has the recollection. Was this a known comment before this book? Edited to add: As an American I knew Harry was called the Spare as a joke. But was it confirmed Charles actually said that?
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 7, 2023 17:38:23 GMT
According to this BBC article there was a ghost writer, details like that probably past by any checking process www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64185688From the article, this made me laugh, ...blander?! Spare might have Harry's name on the cover, but it was written with JR Moehringer, a prolific ghostwriter of celebrity memoirs who made his name writing Andre Agassi's bombshell autobiography in 2009. "The American publishers were very smart to get him in the room with Harry," says Mr Denny. "I think if Harry had written the book himself, it would have been a bit blander. But I think this guy's pulled out and worked on these themes and made the book much more interesting." I know Charles supposedly made a comment about Harry being the spare --- has anyone but Harry confirmed this account? With Harry being only hours old, I assume he isn't the one who has the recollection. Was this a known comment before this book? Edited to add: As an American I knew Harry was called the Spare as a joke. But was it confirmed Charles actually said that? In my recollection it was Diana who said it. But I wouldn’t bet on it lol it was so many years ago. And there were reports Charles was upset he wasn’t a girl, and a red head…but who knows that all could have been Diana leaking things or the press making stuff up. 🤷♀️
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