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Post by mich5481 on Jan 9, 2023 0:25:19 GMT
Saw this in Marie Claire:
Harry also recalled an “awkward moment” when Meghan asked Kate to borrow lip gloss ahead of a joint appearance in 2018. “Kate, taken aback, went into her handbag and reluctantly pulled out a small tube,” Harry writes. “Meg squeezed some onto her finger and applied it to her lips. Kate grimaced.”
Harry continued that the foursome “should’ve been able to laugh” about the moment, but the press sensed it was something bigger, and Catherine was on edge that she was now “going to be compared to, and forced to compete with, Meg.”
Or, maybe, Harry, Kate thinks it is gross to share makeup with other people...
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 9, 2023 0:26:12 GMT
"Why are you wearing a necklace? You're Harry Windsor, not Harry Styles!" 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by pjaye on Jan 9, 2023 1:06:49 GMT
I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone! eta: this is the British interview, no mention of the racism in the 60 minutes one.
2021: (talk about Archie not being titled a Prince yet) Oprah: Do you think it’s because of his race?" Meghan: But I can give you an honest answer. In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time . . . so we have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security, he’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born Oprah: what? Oprah: Because they were concerned that if he were too brown, that that would be a problem? Are you saying that? Meghan: I wasn’t able to follow up with why, but that — if that’s the assumption you’re making, I think that feels like a pretty safe one, which was really hard to understand, right?
2023: Bradby: In the Oprah interview, you accuse members of your family of racism Harry: No, The British press said that, right? Did Meghan ever mention 'they're racists'? Bradby: She said there were troubling comments about Archie's skin colour. Harry: (nodding) there were concerns about his skin colour Bradby: Wouldn't you describe that as essentially racist? Harry: I wouldn't - not having lived within that family, for me the difference is unconscious bias (moves hands) racism, for that if you are called out for unconscious bias, you need to make that right
Then he says how much both he & Meghan love Lady Susan Hussey (the royal aid who asked a black charity worker where she was from). "we think she's great" and that "she never meant any harm at all" So the mostly white RF publicly take some action on racism and Meghan the biracial person says - "nah it's fine, we love her, she didn't mean any harm"
Meghan dropped the big hint that conversations about Archies's colour & all the things he won't get and lets Oprah to say it for her, and then says her assumption is a safe one. And now Harry is trying to walk that all back, Meghan never said that!, it was all made up in the press, no-one in the royal family is racist...and he's obviously learnt the new phrase "unconscious bias" and that's a simple thing that that isn't racism it's just something you need to fix when it's pointed out. Huh. I guess that's how he's justifying his own racism to himself these days.
I wonder how Oprah's feeling about being manipulated?
They seem very determined to erase any claims they made about the racist RF and reframe them as "it was all unconscious...they didn't know they were doing it!" I'll bet it's because they have nothing to back up those claims, they knew it was a lie when they first said it and now it's been repeatedly challenged and they can't defend themselves with any evidence of that claim at all.
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Post by scrappyesq on Jan 9, 2023 3:19:38 GMT
Saw this in Marie Claire: Harry also recalled an “awkward moment” when Meghan asked Kate to borrow lip gloss ahead of a joint appearance in 2018. “Kate, taken aback, went into her handbag and reluctantly pulled out a small tube,” Harry writes. “Meg squeezed some onto her finger and applied it to her lips. Kate grimaced.” Harry continued that the foursome “should’ve been able to laugh” about the moment, but the press sensed it was something bigger, and Catherine was on edge that she was now “going to be compared to, and forced to compete with, Meg.” Or, maybe, Harry, Kate thinks it is gross to share makeup with other people...
I saw this and I was like what the hell!?!?! I wouldn't borrow lipgloss from a blood relative, let alone anyone else. How is this a slight? Why put Kate on blast over something that truth be told if anyone has something snide to say it would be me as in "what kind of dumb broad doesn't have lipgloss in her own damn bag".
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Post by mom on Jan 9, 2023 3:36:52 GMT
Saw this in Marie Claire: Harry also recalled an “awkward moment” when Meghan asked Kate to borrow lip gloss ahead of a joint appearance in 2018. “Kate, taken aback, went into her handbag and reluctantly pulled out a small tube,” Harry writes. “Meg squeezed some onto her finger and applied it to her lips. Kate grimaced.” Harry continued that the foursome “should’ve been able to laugh” about the moment, but the press sensed it was something bigger, and Catherine was on edge that she was now “going to be compared to, and forced to compete with, Meg.” Or, maybe, Harry, Kate thinks it is gross to share makeup with other people...
I saw this and I was like what the hell!?!?! I wouldn't borrow lipgloss from a blood relative, let alone anyone else. How is this a slight? Why put Kate on blast over something that truth be told if anyone has something snide to say it would be me as in "what kind of dumb broad doesn't have lipgloss in her own damn bag".
Completely agree. Don't ask to borrow my lipgloss. I was just reading on Twitter that some think it's ok for Meghan to make the 'baby brain' comment to Catherine. IMHO I think it's rude and even I (a nobody) would want a stranger saying that to me when I was hormonal. I would feel like it was a put down. And my DH would be pissed if someone insinuated that I was unable to handle my business because of 'baby brain'. Particularly someone that had never actually experienced having a newborn and a toddler.
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Post by KiwiJo on Jan 9, 2023 3:53:38 GMT
Yeah, about that whole racist thing….. Only the people who were there can possibly know the context of wondering about the baby’s colouring, but I can absolutely see how it could be a non-issue and not at all racist..
When my son and daughter-in-law were expecting we may well have had exactly the same conversation. One of them has olive skin and tans easily and the other is very pale and gets sunburned almost as soon as they step outside on a sunny day; I can see anyone in the family, including me, wondering whose skin the baby would inherit. DS and DIL are of the same ethnic background, and I doubt anyone would consider racism in this context; it wouldn’t suddenly become racist if they were from different ethnic backgrounds, surely.
It could easily be just as innocent as wondering if a baby will have the same colour hair or eyes as their mum or dad, or the same height, or the same nose, or the same anything else.
Yes, it might have been a racist comment - or it might have been disingenuously described for effect.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jan 9, 2023 5:29:29 GMT
The hormonal comment is akin to asking a pissed of woman if she’s on the rag. Not to mention, there was already tension between the two, they were barely civil acquaintances.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 9, 2023 9:10:28 GMT
This exchange stands out for me:
So Harry would apologise but he has no clue what he did wrong? because they haven't told him? ...have a wild guess!
I knew AC would be soft on him but doesn't even show surprise when Harry says the RF were doing "daily" briefings against him, and he doesn't push for any proof. He also asks him about relinquishing his title and Harry says "what difference will that make?" again no follow up question and AC just drops it.
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Post by gillyp on Jan 9, 2023 10:34:32 GMT
Much has been made of H&M’s desire to keep the details of Archie’s birth private - and why not, I would be the same. Yet the Mail on Sunday quotes from the English version of the book - Meghan “bounced on a giant purple ball” as she went into labour and then climbed into a bath and listened to “soulful hymns” as Harry illuminated the room with electric candles and placed a photograph of his late mother Princess Diana on a table in the delivery room.
There is more. The cynical me thinks, as others have said, that they had planned putting this in a book or on film right from the get go, had any details been released at the time they would no longer be of interest.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 9, 2023 11:00:46 GMT
I watched the Bradby one just now - he goes in a bit harder than Cooper at least and Harry gets quite petulant at times with him. But oh Lordy Harry has severe delusions of grandeur. He actually says: "I genuinely believe, and I hope, that reconciliation between my family and us will have a ripple effect across the entire world"
We'll have world peace!
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 9, 2023 13:14:31 GMT
Saw this in Marie Claire: Harry also recalled an “awkward moment” when Meghan asked Kate to borrow lip gloss ahead of a joint appearance in 2018. “Kate, taken aback, went into her handbag and reluctantly pulled out a small tube,” Harry writes. “Meg squeezed some onto her finger and applied it to her lips. Kate grimaced.” Harry continued that the foursome “should’ve been able to laugh” about the moment, but the press sensed it was something bigger, and Catherine was on edge that she was now “going to be compared to, and forced to compete with, Meg.” Or, maybe, Harry, Kate thinks it is gross to share makeup with other people... "Catherine was on edge that she was now “going to be compared to, and forced to compete with, Meg.” I can't imagine Kate being concerned about that. She was just creeped out by the lip gloss. Meghan “bounced on a giant purple ball” as she went into labour and then climbed into a bath and listened to “soulful hymns” as Harry illuminated the room with electric candles and placed a photograph of his late mother Princess Diana on a table in the delivery room. We all process grief differently, but he's crossing over into weirdness. But oh Lordy Harry has severe delusions of grandeur. He actually says: "I genuinely believe, and I hope, that reconciliation between my family and us will have a ripple effect across the entire world" Whoah. Unbridled self-importance. But if he reconciles with his family, how will he sell books and Netflix content? He could have to get a real job. 😱
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Post by Rhondito on Jan 9, 2023 14:35:54 GMT
Saw this in Marie Claire: Harry also recalled an “awkward moment” when Meghan asked Kate to borrow lip gloss ahead of a joint appearance in 2018. “Kate, taken aback, went into her handbag and reluctantly pulled out a small tube,” Harry writes. “Meg squeezed some onto her finger and applied it to her lips. Kate grimaced.” Harry continued that the foursome “should’ve been able to laugh” about the moment, but the press sensed it was something bigger, and Catherine was on edge that she was now “going to be compared to, and forced to compete with, Meg.”
Or, maybe, Harry, Kate thinks it is gross to share makeup with other people... "...Meg was on edge that she was now “going to be compared to, and forced to compete with, Catherine.”
There, fixed it for him.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 9, 2023 15:26:14 GMT
I couldn't watch the ACoop interview. Zero interest knowing they won't answer any real questions we want to know. We are just going to have to wait and see what happens - which I suspect is NOTHING. The book will come out entirely tmrw, the BRF won't respond to anything, and then we will have to wait and see if Harold is invited to the coronation.
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Post by mom on Jan 9, 2023 16:19:22 GMT
This exchange stands out for me: So Harry would apologise but he has no clue what he did wrong? because they haven't told him? ...have a wild guess! I knew AC would be soft on him but doesn't even show surprise when Harry says the RF were doing "daily" briefings against him, and he doesn't push for any proof. He also asks him about relinquishing his title and Harry says "what difference will that make?" again no follow up question and AC just drops it.Harry can't honestly believe that or he would have already said 'f*** it. Take it all back'. But he isn't because he knows that is the only reason people give him money. Without him being connected to the RF, he is a no one ---- no skills, no real job, and nothing let for others to be curious about. He knows the 'difference it makes' is in his cash flow.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 9, 2023 17:14:32 GMT
This exchange stands out for me: So Harry would apologise but he has no clue what he did wrong? because they haven't told him? ...have a wild guess! I knew AC would be soft on him but doesn't even show surprise when Harry says the RF were doing "daily" briefings against him, and he doesn't push for any proof. He also asks him about relinquishing his title and Harry says "what difference will that make?" again no follow up question and AC just drops it.Harry can't honestly believe that or he would have already said 'f*** it. Take it all back'. But he isn't because he knows that is the only reason people give him money. Without him being connected to the RF, he is a no one ---- no skills, no real job, and nothing let for others to be curious about. He knows the 'difference it makes' is in his cash flow. exactly, if he really didn't think it meant anything, then just go by Harry. Or the artist formerly known as the Duke of Sussex. LOL
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Post by pjaye on Jan 9, 2023 17:32:03 GMT
just go by Harry. Or the artist formerly known as the Duke of Sussex "Just call me Harry" lasted for exactly one event, and then it was straight back to Prince and Duke - preferably both. The GMA transcript this morning had "Prince Harry, Duke Of Sussex" on it. He's clutching those titles so hard his knuckles are turning white.
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 9, 2023 20:23:57 GMT
I just saw this headline and laughed out loud. "Paramount+ Nabs Prince Harry ITV Interview for Canada"
Next up: "Safeway Shoppers Gazette in Bees Knees, Idaho Nabs Prince Harry Interview"
Is there anyone he's not talking (and talking, and talking, and talking...) to? I mean besides his family. It's not like it's a scoop to "nab" a Prince Harry interview.
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Post by mom on Jan 9, 2023 21:29:41 GMT
I just saw this headline and laughed out loud. "Paramount+ Nabs Prince Harry ITV Interview for Canada" Next up: "Safeway Shoppers Gazette in Bees Knees, Idaho Nabs Prince Harry Interview" Is there anyone he's not talking (and talking, and talking, and talking...) to? I mean besides his family. It's not like it's a scoop to "nab" a Prince Harry interview. Right? I swear I saw (or maybe someone said?) he would only be doing two interviews --- one in the US with Anderson and then one for the UK.
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Post by smasonnc on Jan 9, 2023 21:48:53 GMT
I just saw this headline and laughed out loud. "Paramount+ Nabs Prince Harry ITV Interview for Canada" Next up: "Safeway Shoppers Gazette in Bees Knees, Idaho Nabs Prince Harry Interview" Is there anyone he's not talking (and talking, and talking, and talking...) to? I mean besides his family. It's not like it's a scoop to "nab" a Prince Harry interview. Right? I swear I saw (or maybe someone said?) he would only be doing two interviews --- one in the US with Anderson and then one for the UK. And GMA. And Colbert. He and Meghan will eventually end up on Dancing with the Stars.
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Post by Rhondito on Jan 9, 2023 22:02:22 GMT
I just saw this headline and laughed out loud. "Paramount+ Nabs Prince Harry ITV Interview for Canada" Next up: "Safeway Shoppers Gazette in Bees Knees, Idaho Nabs Prince Harry Interview" Is there anyone he's not talking (and talking, and talking, and talking...) to? I mean besides his family. It's not like it's a scoop to "nab" a Prince Harry interview. Right? I swear I saw (or maybe someone said?) he would only be doing two interviews --- one in the US with Anderson and then one for the UK. I thought I saw that too.
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Post by gar on Jan 9, 2023 22:03:47 GMT
Right? I swear I saw (or maybe someone said?) he would only be doing two interviews --- one in the US with Anderson and then one for the UK. I thought I saw that too. That’s all that was being promoted originally here too.
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Post by Rhondito on Jan 9, 2023 22:06:44 GMT
This is where I saw it - from the first page of this thread: He is doing one interview in the UK and one in the US, which doesn't seem excessive IMHO. No book tour or signing meet & greets in Costco have been announced so far.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jan 9, 2023 22:28:25 GMT
I hadn’t been reading this thread so just read it today after watching 60 minutes off the DVR. Seeing sone snippets from the book what the everloving }#%#. Who cares about being circumcised, loosing his virginity, drug use and so many other things. I certainly didn’t want or care about any of these things. Claiming to have killed Taliban wtf was he thinking and why didn’t someone say no this puts you and your family in danger. The other stuff is just distasteful and shouldn’t be released but this.
He has a ton of money and could live a nice and wonderful life and continue to do charity work while still living a life most of us could never dream of. This book just makes him sound like an uneducated teenager. Getting into fights with siblings seems normal snd he could have still moved here and had a nice life without trashing himself and his family. He would have reconciled within reason but no … I never intended to read the book or watch the Netflix show snd not sure why I recorded and watched 60 mins but if I had read this thread first wouldn’t have even bothered. It’s really too bad that he has wasted what he was given snd all the advantages he was given. I know he has done a lot with the Invictus Games but these embarrassing moments take away from that. It had sounded like he was growing up but I guess not. I feel for his children that they will learn about his embarrassing moments he shouldn’t have shared. Seriously he pissed himself before his first date with their mother 🤦♀️
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Post by bc2ca on Jan 9, 2023 23:35:07 GMT
This is where I saw it - from the first page of this thread: He is doing one interview in the UK and one in the US, which doesn't seem excessive IMHO. No book tour or signing meet & greets in Costco have been announced so far. A true statement when it was written. But I did leave the it open with the "so far" and am not surprised to see more. Still hoping for the Costco meet & greet to be announced.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2023 0:51:58 GMT
I agree. I am surprised that they both seem so unaware of public opinion. This has shocked me more than anything. Are they living in a total bubble! I can’t imagine what they think their future will be. I feel for their children. It’s all so sad. Can you imagine Archie googling and finding out about how his dad had his ass slapped as he mounted his ride for the first behind a pub, and froze his penis? and wet his pants on a first date? I imagine it's similar to googling about your father's affair and that he possibly married your mother for convenience because.. 'whatever in love means'. I think the ship has sailed on family members embarrassing each other and finding out about it. As with all our families.
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Post by Rhondito on Jan 10, 2023 1:27:52 GMT
I just keep wondering what huge, horrible event happened between all of them that made him say "fuck it - I'm burning allll the bridges." What was the straw that broke the camel's back? Because surely that has to be why he's doing this, right? He could have written a memoir without throwing his father and brother under the bus. He claims he hopes they can all reconcile, yet he just poured gas on a fire? He has to see what he's done?
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Post by mom on Jan 10, 2023 1:35:11 GMT
I just keep wondering what huge, horrible event happened between all of them that made him say "fuck it - I'm burning allll the bridges." What was the straw that broke the camel's back? Because surely that has to be why he's doing this, right? He could have written a memoir without throwing his father and brother under the bus. He claims he hopes they can all reconcile, yet he just poured gas on a fire? He has to see what he's done? I honestly think that this is his mental illness on display. I don't get what I want? Ok, fuck it all -- he's not being rational and definitely not thinking about potential consequences. ' IF he has a licensed therapist that he routinely uses, I would love to hear their reaction (I know we wont).
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Post by pjaye on Jan 10, 2023 1:52:09 GMT
I wish someone could explain the logic to me.
Meghan writes a letter to her father, and then her father gives it to the media and consents to having it published. Meghan sues the paper because they had no right to publish HER letter no matter what her father said - and it's upheld in court. then Catherine writes private text messages to Meghan, Meghan gives them to Harry and he publishes them in his book. How is that any different to what they sued the paper over? He has no right to publish Catherine's messages even if Meghan consents...that's the exact same situation they went to court over.
Of course they know there's a high likelihood Catherine won't sue - or he's trying to provoke her into it...?
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Post by elaine on Jan 10, 2023 1:52:56 GMT
I just keep wondering what huge, horrible event happened between all of them that made him say "fuck it - I'm burning allll the bridges." What was the straw that broke the camel's back? Because surely that has to be why he's doing this, right? He could have written a memoir without throwing his father and brother under the bus. He claims he hopes they can all reconcile, yet he just poured gas on a fire? He has to see what he's done? All I can say is that my older sister a number of years ago (long after she was an adult and practicing lawyer) gave my mother - on Mother’s Day - a short story that she had written as part of a writer’s workshop she enrolled in, blaming my mom for everything wrong in my sister’s life. Our father was killed in a freak scuba diving accident when she was 12, I was 9. So, we aren’t completely dissimilar from Harry in that one little aspect. My sister was so damaged by her childhood that she absolutely did not/does not see that there was nothing positive to be gained by sharing that. She had some fantasy that my mother would read her story and see the errors of my mom’s ways. (I’d put the laughing emoji, but it is too tragic since it is my family). She 💯 % believed it would change everything for the better. Instead, I was left to pick up all the pieces of my mother who raised us as a single parent after my father died without the luxury of the British Royal coffers. Damaged people are damaged. They don’t see things realistically. Harry is very very damaged.
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Post by belgravia on Jan 10, 2023 2:12:29 GMT
I just keep wondering what huge, horrible event happened between all of them that made him say "fuck it - I'm burning allll the bridges." What was the straw that broke the camel's back? Because surely that has to be why he's doing this, right? He could have written a memoir without throwing his father and brother under the bus. He claims he hopes they can all reconcile, yet he just poured gas on a fire? He has to see what he's done? All I can say is that my older sister a number of years ago (long after she was an adult and practicing lawyer) gave my mother - on Mother’s Day - a short story that she had written as part of a writer’s workshop she enrolled in, blaming my mom for everything wrong in my sister’s life. Our father was killed in a freak scuba diving accident when she was 12, I was 9. So, we aren’t completely dissimilar from Harry in that one little aspect. My sister was so damaged by her childhood that she absolutely did not/does not see that there was nothing positive to be gained by sharing that. She had some fantasy that my mother would read her story and see the errors of my mom’s ways. (I’d put the laughing emoji, but it is too tragic since it is my family). She 💯 % believed it would change everything for the better. Instead, I was left to pick up all the pieces of my mother who raised us as a single parent after my father died without the luxury of the British Royal coffers. Damaged people are damaged. They don’t see things realistically. Harry is very very damaged. Do you think William is similarly damaged? After all, their mother’s tragic death and the aftermath happened to both of them.
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