stacey562
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Post by stacey562 on Jan 16, 2023 16:40:29 GMT
So, I love scrapbooking. I'm a fairly active scrapbooker and I have a fairly large stash. I go to crops and generally have a lot of fun with this hobby.
That being said, I have noticed how much space I take up in our basement. My kids are in their teens and I've noticed that it's hard for them to have friends over due to a lack of space. We have a few couches and gaming systems and whatnot but my kids are telling me it's kinda cramped. When they have a few friends over or each of them has a few friends, there isn't anywhere to go. If my scrapbooking didn't take up the other half of our basement, we could have a ping pong table or some other activity. I know a hobby is important and it keeps me sane, but I think I just need to pack up the vast majority for a few years and kinda keep out what is essential.
Has anyone done this? Or even faced this kind of issue? It's hard to kind of find those "essential" things when I'm used to having so much. The daunting task of packing scares me too.
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jediannie
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Post by jediannie on Jan 16, 2023 17:34:08 GMT
You said your kids are teens, they should be able to figure out something to do without you sacrificing your space. Is there an alternate place you can set up a ping pong table, like a garage or a back covered patio? Ping pong tables do fold in half so I know a few people that have it in their garage or backyard. Also, the kids should not be making you feel bad for your hobby, especially if it's something you enjoy and do regularly. If you don't have an alternate space to have a ping pong table, as a compromise, maybe you can figure out a different organization system or you just need to purge some stuff. If the amount of stuff you have is stifling your creativity (which is doesn't sound like it is) this might be a good time to let go of some things that you don't really use or know you may not use. I feel like as mothers we sacrifice so much for our families and we don't feel like they are appreciative of the sacrifices we make on a daily basis. I'm trying really hard not to go off on a feminist rant about how misogynistic the world is and women are always getting the short end of the stick. Anyway, maybe talk it over with your partner and see if they have any ideas how to solve this without you having to pack away your stuff and sacrifice some of your joy. Hope what I said helps and good luck with your decision (I still stand firm that you shouldn't have to give up your space).
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caangel
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Post by caangel on Jan 16, 2023 17:54:24 GMT
I also have teens and while I do think it's important that they have space at home to hang out because then it's easier to keep an eye on them. I personally would not give up all of my hobby space. They are (hopefully) only around for a few more years and then will be leaving the nest. To me this is a time when it's important to find hobbies and interests that will sustain you after they are gone. Especially as a stay-at-home mom, I am very conscious of how much of my interests center around them and how much is my own.
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Post by Neisey on Jan 16, 2023 18:00:13 GMT
I had teenagers. I had a ping pong table. It didn’t take long for it to lose its novelty and is currently covered with scrapping supplies.
So…your mileage may vary 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 18:51:01 GMT
Depending on the age and span between your teens, I wouldn't be too quick to pack it up. Out of our 4 kids, only 2 of the 4 ever had big groups of kids over and about the time the youngest turned 17 it was done. OTOH, I had a small separate craft room that was near and not in our family room. Since #3 moved out, I moved my craft room to a larger bedroom and former craft room is my office. It's dang tempting to take over part of the fam room, but I don't plan to ever do that even if the kids just come back for rare visits. I like my stuff away with a door I can shut. If it were me, I wouldn't be willing to pack it away completely, best I'd do is condense it (either where I was or move to a smaller space) and give them some times that you aren't crafting when they are in the other part of the fam room. If all they are doing is gaming it shouldn't require too much space. We have a ping pong table in 1/2 of our fam room and I would have preferred it in the garage all along even though we had the room for it. I'm not a huge fan of having to concede to my kids from enjoying my own house and now that phase seems to finally be past, yay!
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 16, 2023 19:17:45 GMT
I vote that if you are going to pack up then you switch to digital for a little while. That's what I did. When Jeremy and I first moved together, we were 7 people in 900 sq ft. Not even a basement. I switched to digital for those years.
When we moved into our current house, 1250 sq feet with a finished basement, I took a little corner in my living room and returned to paper scrapping with a very small stash.
Now that my kids are out I have one bedroom for a craft space (I haven't officially used it yet for crafting) and one very small room as my home office. Digi was 4 years. Space in the living room was 4 years. Small office 3 years. And now two rooms. So it really seemed like as they were growing up and we expanded our living situation I was able to adapt. And nothing was permanent so don't do anything permanent.
But I was never willing to give up my hobbies. And I'm firmly on the no side of you having to give up yours.
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Post by Citygirl on Jan 16, 2023 19:32:34 GMT
Would you say your stash/space is organized or could you come up with some space saving organizational options? Maybe you just need to do a purge?
I definitely would not give up my hobby but I understand that things change as your family grows/changes. My craft space has evolved as my family has changed. Like a previous comment nothing is permanent so adjust accordingly.
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Post by cmpeter on Jan 16, 2023 19:38:18 GMT
I think your hobby is just as important as your kids having friends over. I'd look for options to downsize/destash, but I wouldn't give up my space or hobby.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Jan 16, 2023 19:56:23 GMT
I don’t know how big your space is vs. the area you feel that they need, but can you add shelving that goes higher? Organize it better? Have storage under your scrapping table instead of just empty space?
For most of my life, I didn’t have a dedicated craft space. I crafted on my dining table. All my supplies were squirreled away in various closets and rooms in the house. I’ve only had a craft room the last five years, and now I would never go back to those days when things were stored away rather then easily accessible.
I would find a way to reorganize, improve the storage, and purge some things, but no, I would not just pack up most of it. There should be ways to give them more space without having to spend a fortune or sacrifice most of your craft area. Find a compromise.
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Post by sarahsprettypapers on Jan 16, 2023 20:09:55 GMT
If you are actively scrapbooking and using your supplies, then no, I would not give up my entire space. If there are some items you have not used in over a year (I am looking at you, embossing folders!), maybe those can go to storage to save a bit of space. But I wouldn't pack everything up. Access to my crafting supplies is important for my overall happiness, and my family knows and respects that. And you deserve your happy place too!
I would try looking at the kid's half of the basement and see if some furniture can move around or be replaced with something more suited for the size of the space first. Does it need more storage, more seating? Purchase them a mini fridge and load it with snacks. If their mouths are full, they can't complain about being cramped. Lots of options to look at before packing things up, lol!
And I wouldn't invest in a ping pong table unless I knew they would use it. I would purchase a set of paddles and a net that can be used on a dining room table first, to see if the interest for a real table is even there. Our air hockey table growing up was a great place to fold laundry! 😆
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Post by breetheflea on Jan 16, 2023 20:36:56 GMT
A foosball table will take up less space... says the crafter who let DH talk her into the air hockey/ping pong table the kids never play with. It is also a clutter magnet because it's flat.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 17, 2023 2:28:27 GMT
My first thought was to switch to digital, as jeremysgirl said. I switched from paper to digital scrapping in 2018, and now my scrapping supplies take up as much room as my laptop, and I can scrap anywhere and anytime. I love it! If I were in your situation, I would want to make space for my teens to hang out too. It won't be long until they've moved out of home, and you will have all the space you want! But in the meantime, I think it's nice for them to have space for themselves and their friends, in your home - where you know they'll stay safe and out of trouble! If you think you definitely want to stick with paper scrapping, I would look at different storage option that will make more room in the basement, but will allow you to still scrap when you want.
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Post by infochick on Jan 17, 2023 4:03:08 GMT
I would be hesitant to pack too much of it up. Fist, I would look to see if you could go vertical for storage. Tall shelves and switching to storing my paper vertically all made much better use of my space and meant that I was taking up less space in the room. Even looking at what kind of desk you have can help. If you can find a way to integrate cube type storage as the legs of your desk, or under your desk it makes a huge difference as to how much you can stash away in a small space. If you do pack some things up, maybe look at packing away something specific (stamping supplies, or Christmas paper, etc.). Something that you know you won't use everyday, but can go and grab if you want. Maybe even just consolidating by a few feet would make a difference. To be honest, I have some scrap space in the loft at my partner's house. There was always lots of pressure to keep it contained so it could be a teen hangout space. Nobody ever actually hangs out up there except for me
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Post by grammadee on Jan 17, 2023 4:16:48 GMT
Maybe one of them wants to move into the basement and give you their bedroom for your crafting space?
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Post by Elsabelle on Jan 17, 2023 5:48:05 GMT
I'd rather reorganize, destash, and look into vertical storage than get rid of all my supplies. I think you could work on a compromise instead of giving up something that's important to you.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Jan 17, 2023 14:50:18 GMT
A couple more thoughts:
When I was growing up, my family had a ping pong table. After the initial fun of having something new, it never got used. Never. It just hogged space. I guarantee that a ping pong table won’t be used enough to justify the cost or space, and the same would probably be true of an air hockey table, or anything big with just one function.
I suggest that you consider getting some collapsible card tables and folding chairs, and offer a variety of table games for both small and large groups (my adult kids like Villainous, Dungeons & Dragons, and a few others). When the tables are not in use, they can be put away and the area will seem extra roomy.
Reorganizing, rearranging your craft area, and adding or switching to more vertical storage may seem as much work as downsizing, but you can do it in smaller chunks of time rather than doing the overwhelming “box up most of the stash for storage” plan, and you will probably be happier, even with a smaller space.
As you reorganize your craft area, start with the area closest to theirs, so that you can potentially give them a little more space sooner. They already have half of the basement, but the couches and video game area presumably take up a lot of the space. There should be a way to compromise and still give them a bit more of the basement without you being reduced to a tiny corner and a fraction of your stash. If you can add more vertical storage, you can hopefully take up only a third of the space, maybe even only a fourth of it, rather than half, without depriving you of your own fun. Go to Ikea if you have one in your area, and see if you can get some ideas on how to better arrange your space.
And honestly, if you give the kids a lot more space, there is also the possibility that they will just invite more friends, and then still complain that they don’t have enough space.
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Post by lisae on Jan 17, 2023 17:48:03 GMT
I don't have children so I can't speak to that. However, I have another hobby that I wanted to do in my craft room that made me decrease my scrapbooking space by about 50%. It's working fine.
I had moved a sewing machine into my crafting space a few years ago and slowly was adding more and more sewing items that had previously been in the basement. When I bought a long arm, something had to give. The long arm is the sit down kind so it takes up only 32x36 inches without the table extended. Still that is a lot in a guest bedroom/craft room. I condensed by moving a few papercrafting things to another area of the house. Mostly I packed up boxes of things I wasn't using and gave them away to the local high school art department. I sold a few stamp sets on Ebay but you get so little out of it after the fees that I don't necessarily recommend that. I also found that I could put more things in some of my drawers than I had before. I just didn't need a whole drawer for one paper collection. And the biggest thing I did was stop buying! For the last 3 years, I've only made a few Stamping Up orders - hardly any stamps but mostly consumables - and I've bought nothing else except adhesive and watercolor supplies. I didn't scrap much in 2020 at all but got back to it some the next year and even more last year. I am finding that my stash is mostly sufficient for what I want to scrap.
I will admit that a package of stencils is in route to my house today. Stencils take up very little room so I figured I could indulge. I'm hoping to get better at watercolors and pare back my stamps even further. So you can still have your hobby. You just may need to really sort through what you use and what you can let go of. The kids will grow up so you want to be sure you still have the tools and supplies you value most in your stash.
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stacey562
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Post by stacey562 on Jan 17, 2023 23:45:36 GMT
Thank you to everyone for all the thoughts and responses. I think I'm going to start by cleaning up the space, both mine and theirs. I think I will try and put items that are not used on a regular basis (Albums and such) into the storage room and maybe rejig the room. I always wonder how much other things (ping pong table, air-hockey table, and such) will get used after the initial "yay" wears off. I think something needs to change but I think a better approach will be a slow one. I was never going to not scrapbook but I can't imagine trying to with all my stuff packed here and there. My mother agreed to come over and spend some time with me to think about a better way to set up and get things where they need to be. Whew.....what a job that is going to be, LOL!
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Post by infochick on Jan 18, 2023 20:35:49 GMT
I also wanted to add to this, I was really bad at keeping everything in packaging. Sometimes the packaging of things really adds to the bulk--especially anything in blister or clamshell packaging. Even the cardboard inserts in things like die cut packs add up over time. When I organized my space I really looked at how things were packaged and if the package wasn't really protecting a delicate product or if I could consolidate things, like packages of die cuts for one collection, I tossed the extra packaging into the garbage or recycling. It was an alarming amount of waste!
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stacey562
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Post by stacey562 on Jan 19, 2023 1:16:46 GMT
I also wanted to add to this, I was really bad at keeping everything in packaging. Sometimes the packaging of things really adds to the bulk--especially anything in blister or clamshell packaging. Even the cardboard inserts in things like die cut packs add up over time. When I organized my space I really looked at how things were packaged and if the package wasn't really protecting a delicate product or if I could consolidate things, like packages of die cuts for one collection, I tossed the extra packaging into the garbage or recycling. It was an alarming amount of waste! I totally agree! Actually, the amount of packaging is staggering in my opinion. I am shocked at how fast my recycle bin fills! I use a scraprack for misc embellishments and stickers. It is amazing how much space it saves for me.
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