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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 29, 2023 16:38:29 GMT
Very hilarious! LOL Her book pissed me off. I was actually ANGRY after I read it! FlyLady is way more my style. It's about baby steps, learning new routines, etc. If I had time to declutter my entire closet in one afternoon by dragging everything out, Marie, I wouldn't be in this mess!LOL!! Ha ha ha! Same, girl. Same! For me, it’s the FACT that I will be living in the midst of chaos for an undetermined length of time until everything can be sorted again, which means that *none* of my space will be functional and that’s what deters me. My studio space is always a sore spot and I’ve followed a few different “organize your craft space in ten weeks!” types of programs. The problem with them is that they tend to go like this: Week One, Organize your papers! Week Two, organize your stickers! Week Three, organize your punches and cutters! etc. Again, yeah, NO. That might work if someone had a couple boxes or drawers of stuff to go through. But when you have multiple containers full of mixed stuff, it’s going to take more time than that to sort through.
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Post by katlady on Jan 29, 2023 17:02:40 GMT
Very hilarious! LOL Her book pissed me off. I was actually ANGRY after I read it! FlyLady is way more my style. It's about baby steps, learning new routines, etc. If I had time to declutter my entire closet in one afternoon by dragging everything out, Marie, I wouldn't be in this mess!LOL!! Ha ha ha! Same, girl. Same! For me, it’s the FACT that I will be living in the midst of chaos for an undetermined length of time until everything can be sorted again, which means that *none* of my space will be functional and that’s what deters me. My studio space is always a sore spot and I’ve followed a few different “organize your craft space in ten weeks!” types of programs. The problem with them is that they tend to go like this: Week One, Organize your papers! Week Two, organize your stickers! Week Three, organize your punches and cutters! etc. Again, yeah, NO. That might work if someone had a couple boxes or drawers of stuff to go through. But when you have multiple containers full of mixed stuff, it’s going to take more time than that to sort through. I just take a deep breath and dive in. The chaos makes me work faster because I know I can’t leave the mess for days! I clean out my entire clothes closet once a year. Everything gets taken out, the closet gets a good cleaning (vacuum, shelves wiped), and then I put things back one at a time. I set aside two afternoons for it. We are actually deep cleaning our “office” right now. Yesterday, we emptied it, vacuumed and cleaned, and moved furniture around. Today, we put things back and PURGE! It helps that SO is on-board and helping. I don’t do everything Marie Kondo does, but I do find starting with a clean blank space really helps me to declutter. If I don’t want to put it back in the room, I have to decide if I really want to keep it or get rid of it. I am happy to read the Marie Kondo is not stuck in her ways and is willing to change her views. I do agree with someone above who said her “mess” is still probably not as messy as my mess! 😂
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Jan 29, 2023 17:16:35 GMT
ComplicatedLady I was not intending by this post to bag on Marie Kondo. I just think she is evolving. And I think she could totally turn this change into a new book with a new perspective and it would be eaten up by the people who enjoyed her the first time. KiwiJo I can totally see your POV too. However, there is a point where we all have to take responsibility for the level to which we allow people to influence us. It's hard to determine where that level is, I get that. And really if the societal pressure feels like everyone is doing it, then it can be hard to escape. Especially if you feel judgment coming from your circle. And I know for me, I have a very judgemental attitude about influencers who try to dabble in any kind of mental health without the credentials to back them up. I'm a freak when it comes to toxic positivity. See my opinions on Rachel Hollis. Lol! But I think for me, Marie Kondo felt so "out there" because I don't actually know anyone who lives that way. So I don't personally know anyone who felt pressured by her or society to have a very minimalist home. No worries, I didn’t take it that way. I’ve seen a lot of hate for her on Twitter which may have also been part of my response. For my clothes and my closet, her method worked really well for me. Not everywhere in my house and my life, but for my closet, yes. And I totally agree with you though—kids change everything!!
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Post by uksue on Jan 29, 2023 17:50:07 GMT
Who wants to be tidy anyway, lol!
Seriously though I totally agree: every time I consider buying something now,I check what I already have and whether I can improvise. Often I find I already have what I am about to buy or similar 😁- thats where organisation comes in. I'm trying now to keep like with like and know exactly what Arash if toiletries and food I have.
Since January 2022 I've bought no new clothes except underwear and only 1 pr of shoes I needed as I had to start wearing arch support inserts. It's made a huge difference, especually as I have had no bedroom/wardrobe since Feb 2021.
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Post by casii on Jan 29, 2023 18:01:35 GMT
This will make my hoarder wannabe DH happy. One way to strike fear into his heart is to say you're decluttering, tossing stuff out and donating other stuff. He even checked the trash bag when I was throwing out undies with holes or worn elastic in them!
I do have to say, she's being true to her and her growing family. People can find a happy(ish) medium.
And what she taught wasn't especially revolutionary, but caught on at a time when we seemed to respond to it. Did anyone else have a parent who was adamant that the carpet be vacuumed a certain way? Saturdays were for chores, not cartoons? Mom and/or Dad would become a ball of stress and freak out when visitors came, especially the grandparents? Man, my mom was insanely fastidious to the point of being dysfunctional.
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Post by SabrinaP on Jan 30, 2023 1:45:45 GMT
I bet her messy and my messy are not even on the same planet!
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Post by Gem Girl on Jan 30, 2023 3:25:25 GMT
I'll have to stop back & fully read when I have time tomorrow, but your thread title is funny!
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Post by heckofagal on Jan 30, 2023 3:40:55 GMT
I never jumped on the Kondo bandwagon, and if she were to see my house she’d probably pass out. But OMG if Marie can’t do it anymore how will I ever get on top of my mess?
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Post by styxgirl on Jan 30, 2023 13:35:06 GMT
But when you have multiple containers full of mixed stuff, it’s going to take more time than that to sort through. Yep! LOL
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Post by workingclassdog on Jan 30, 2023 13:55:51 GMT
Good to see she is human like the rest of us. I took some of her ideas and it really worked. She just realized later. We all evolve.
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 30, 2023 14:32:17 GMT
Meh, I’m pretty sure she is still an inherently tidy person and when her kids are past that chaotic toddler stage, her house will be Marie Kondo’d again.
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Post by don on Jan 30, 2023 14:53:00 GMT
I've never heard of Kondo until now. I am now in the midst of clearing out The Queen's stuff. Her closet, her bathroom, the spare bedroom, and OMG the kitchen. There are storage places I never knew we had. To be fair, I am paring down the kitchen to what I need. I don't need 3 hand mixers, nor do I need a Kitchen Aid with all the attachments. There are gadgets I have know idea what they are for, I just hope someone buys them at the garage sale.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 30, 2023 15:18:46 GMT
But OMG if Marie can’t do it anymore how will I ever get on top of my mess? This made me LOL! I am now in the midst of clearing out The Queen's stuff. Her closet, her bathroom, the spare bedroom, and OMG the kitchen. There are storage places I never knew we had. Men are often shocked by what we women can squirrel away. And if you aren't a cook, do not feel remotely bad about purging heavily in your kitchen. I'm sure you will get lots of takers at a garage sale.
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Post by littlemama on Jan 30, 2023 16:09:40 GMT
Im sure she made buckets of money making people feel bad about their clutter
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Post by Peace Sign on Jan 30, 2023 18:25:37 GMT
i'm more a frankie heck than a marie condo, so i didn't read her book. we all had more time during covid, and now we don't.
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 30, 2023 18:38:03 GMT
I think she's really cute. I like some aspects of her system. Except the folding part. I have a dump and rotate method for most of my son's clothes and for two of my dresser drawers. It's truly magical how much time I save.
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 30, 2023 18:54:23 GMT
I hope this message gets out there. I know a young mom who absolutely harps on her kids to keep things perfectly neat. She comes unglued if there is any kind of mess - and by mess I mean kids just having some toys out to play. I feel bad for her kids. I have a family member who barred her children from the first FLOOR of the house. Only eating in the kitchen was allowed. She's super judgmental and super uptight. Ha ha ha, YES! I can’t tell you how many times just this WEEK my craft hoard has saved the day for end of semester school projects. I'm a little McGyver with my heavy duty double sided adhesive tape. If I had time to declutter my entire closet in one afternoon by dragging everything out, Marie, I wouldn't be in this mess! Yes, that gives me giant anxiety even thinking about that! I also have a spouse who has a couple of his own areas that drive me nuts. It's not worth being a control freak over every area of the home though.
I know where you store your quilt.
ETA: I don't know what happened to your post! I'm definitely more of a Frankie Heck.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 30, 2023 19:28:23 GMT
I will never be a minimalist. Many things bring me joy. I also hate to have clutter and only let myself go overboard in very few categories. My thought is that if I can't keep my house tidy, it needs to go. I am good at getting rid of stuff. I am getting better at walking away from things that bring me joy that I do not need.
With our last move, I realized I didn't have too much stuff, I just didn't have enough storage. Haha.
I do hate the way that MK kind of came off as a one size fits all (just in my opinion). I like when organizers talk about organizing depending on what season you are in. THAT makes sense to me. I like when organizers talk about whether you are a visual or minimal visual clutter person as well as a macro or micro organizer. I knew that MK really wasn't for me, so I never gave her book a chance. I am all for getting the unused, unneeded, unloved stuff out of my house though. I love when even my storage areas have space to breathe.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 30, 2023 19:33:01 GMT
I've never heard of Kondo until now. I am now in the midst of clearing out The Queen's stuff. Her closet, her bathroom, the spare bedroom, and OMG the kitchen. There are storage places I never knew we had. To be fair, I am paring down the kitchen to what I need. I don't need 3 hand mixers, nor do I need a Kitchen Aid with all the attachments. There are gadgets I have know idea what they are for, I just hope someone buys them at the garage sale. I do worry that if my husband has to clear out my stuff, he might not be too happy. It is funny because I can have a kitchen full of gadgets that I use (or MOSTLY use) and he can want to keep his college text books. We all like our stuff.
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Post by auntkelly on Jan 30, 2023 19:45:11 GMT
The article doesn't really say much except that she has given up trying to have a perfect house and that she has written a new book.
The new book is probably going to have some earth shattering news like you shouldn't expect your house to be perfect all the time when your kids are little, and you should buy some colored bins and teach your kids to pick up after themselves.
I like Marie Kondo and feel like I did learn some really helpful tips from her, but I never followed her to the letter.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 30, 2023 19:50:39 GMT
I've never heard of Kondo until now. I am now in the midst of clearing out The Queen's stuff. Her closet, her bathroom, the spare bedroom, and OMG the kitchen. There are storage places I never knew we had. To be fair, I am paring down the kitchen to what I need. I don't need 3 hand mixers, nor do I need a Kitchen Aid with all the attachments. There are gadgets I have know idea what they are for, I just hope someone buys them at the garage sale. I do worry that if my husband has to clear out my stuff, he might not be too happy. It is funny because I can have a kitchen full of gadgets that I use (or MOSTLY use) and he can want to keep his college text books. We all like our stuff. That was my BFF’s mom. She knew what she paid for all her craft stuff and was horrified that her DH should just wholesale drop off the whole lot at Goodwill. She told him straight up that only BFF and I should go through it and decide what to do with all of it. BFF took about 1/8 of it, I took about 1/4 of it and the rest we either sold or donated. Took the better part of two summers to get through all of it. My DD is very artistic so I already told DH that she gets first crack at everything when I go belly up.
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Post by Gem Girl on Jan 30, 2023 20:05:34 GMT
I've never heard of Kondo until now. I am now in the midst of clearing out The Queen's stuff. Her closet, her bathroom, the spare bedroom, and OMG the kitchen. There are storage places I never knew we had. To be fair, I am paring down the kitchen to what I need. I don't need 3 hand mixers, nor do I need a Kitchen Aid with all the attachments. There are gadgets I have know idea what they are for, I just hope someone buys them at the garage sale. If you'd care to post photos of these items, you might find some answers here. The Peas know everything. Plus, what if it turns out to be a whozywhatsit that was used to prepare something you like, but you just never saw it in action? What if it's a hard-to-find item that people would pay well for, but you only charge a dime at the garage sale because you didn't know? Just sayin'.
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