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Post by morecowbell on Feb 15, 2023 23:16:38 GMT
All ages welcome... Children in the audience, you only have to watch the first couple of minutes to see that... /mediaViewer?currentTweet=1605216138614358016¤tTweetUser=MrAndyNgo Lol, questionable, but OK. No way of telling where the screenshot or the video came from. But let’s say they did indeed do what you say in this one isolated instance. You claimed it’s abusive. How is it abuse? How is it more abusive than other acts which are not receiving priority attention in red-state legislatures? To Megan’s point, how is it more abusive the religious indoctrination that goes on in camps and churches every day of the year? More than a Hooters waitress getting up close to your 12 year old son? The explicit sex and violence in an R rated movie? If your answer is that you think it’s all abusive, then why are you and the people you vote for fixated on this one specific (and vanishingly rare) thing? That’s the point of the amendment Megan filed. Why the very selective outrage over drag shows? No, it isn't questionable. It's right there for you to click on and investigate for yourself. The screenshot is from USA Today reporter Will Carless' Twitter, who tried to say it was not happening. Then when shown it was, tried to dismiss it as not for all ages, with a screenshot that says "for all ages". The video is right there for you to see for yourself. It's clearly the Drag Queen Christmas, with the correct personalities and the correct set on stage and clearly they're talking to children. I provided it to show those who say it isn't a thing, that there ARE shows children are invited to, and attending, with subject matter not meant for children. And it's not a single instance. She talked about living out of a tour bus. It's 36 shows across the country.
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Post by Merge on Feb 15, 2023 23:21:52 GMT
Lol, questionable, but OK. No way of telling where the screenshot or the video came from. But let’s say they did indeed do what you say in this one isolated instance. You claimed it’s abusive. How is it abuse? How is it more abusive than other acts which are not receiving priority attention in red-state legislatures? To Megan’s point, how is it more abusive the religious indoctrination that goes on in camps and churches every day of the year? More than a Hooters waitress getting up close to your 12 year old son? The explicit sex and violence in an R rated movie? If your answer is that you think it’s all abusive, then why are you and the people you vote for fixated on this one specific (and vanishingly rare) thing? That’s the point of the amendment Megan filed. Why the very selective outrage over drag shows? No, it isn't questionable. It's right there for you to click on and investigate for yourself. The screenshot is from USA Today reporter Will Carless' Twitter, who tried to say it was not happening. Then when shown it was, tried to dismiss it as not for all ages, with a screenshot that says "for all ages". The video is right there for you to see for yourself. It's clearly the Drag Queen Christmas, with the correct personalities and the correct set on stage and clearly they're talking to children. I provided it to show those who say it isn't a thing, that there ARE shows children are invited to, and attending, with subject matter not meant for children. And it's not a single instance. She talked about living out of a tour bus. It's 36 shows across the country. And again, please tell me how this clip is evidence of abuse relative to the other things I mentioned? We’ll agree to disagree about the provenance of the clip.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 15, 2023 23:26:04 GMT
No, it isn't questionable. It's right there for you to click on and investigate for yourself. The screenshot is from USA Today reporter Will Carless' Twitter, who tried to say it was not happening. Then when shown it was, tried to dismiss it as not for all ages, with a screenshot that says "for all ages". The video is right there for you to see for yourself. It's clearly the Drag Queen Christmas, with the correct personalities and the correct set on stage and clearly they're talking to children. I provided it to show those who say it isn't a thing, that there ARE shows children are invited to, and attending, with subject matter not meant for children. And it's not a single instance. She talked about living out of a tour bus. It's 36 shows across the country. And again, please tell me how this clip is evidence of abuse relative to the other things I mentioned? We’ll agree to disagree about the provenance of the clip. It's kind of hard to do that when It's clearly the Drag Queen Christmas, with the correct personalities and the correct set on stage and clearly they're talking to children.
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Post by morecowbell on Apr 6, 2023 15:41:40 GMT
I don't do that. But, vice versa. When you're concerned about child beauty pageants but demonize anyone who objects to young children watching nude dancers and simulated sex acts. I haven't even read through this entire thread yet so keep that mind.... but, I'm wondering how a young child actually is in a position to watch nude dancers and simulated sex acts? I mean, presumably these activities are inside a club or a show or something...? So how did the young children get in there in the first place? Clearly an adult had to bring them. Somehow I doubt that this type of entertainment is being provided for an assembly in schools (where presumably the kids wouldn't have a choice of attending)... But of course I don't know. I'll be sure to ask the principal of the school where I sub if she plans any nude dancers for the next assembly. Are you seriously alleging that since it didn't happen in an assembly and you couldn't be bothered looking at the linked evidence provided HERE, that inviting and bringing children to watch nude dancing and simulated sex acts is worth dismissing and mocking anyone who objects to inviting children to that?
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Post by Merge on Apr 6, 2023 16:24:08 GMT
I haven't even read through this entire thread yet so keep that mind.... but, I'm wondering how a young child actually is in a position to watch nude dancers and simulated sex acts? I mean, presumably these activities are inside a club or a show or something...? So how did the young children get in there in the first place? Clearly an adult had to bring them. Somehow I doubt that this type of entertainment is being provided for an assembly in schools (where presumably the kids wouldn't have a choice of attending)... But of course I don't know. I'll be sure to ask the principal of the school where I sub if she plans any nude dancers for the next assembly. Are you seriously alleging that since it didn't happen in an assembly and you couldn't be bothered looking at the linked evidence provided HERE, that inviting and bringing children to watch nude dancing and simulated sex acts is worth dismissing and mocking anyone who objects to inviting children to that? She's correctly pointing out that no children were attending any such show unless an adult brought them to it. Drag performers are not infiltrating places were children might be a captive audience without their parents. I'm still curious why these laws are targeting this one type of sexual performance, place, or event, and not all the others - R-rated and even some PG-13 movies, "breastaurants," children's pageants, Renaissance faires in some cases - to which parents routinely bring their children. Perhaps you can clear that up.
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Post by bluebird71 on Apr 6, 2023 16:28:35 GMT
Are you seriously alleging that since it didn't happen in an assembly and you couldn't be bothered looking at the linked evidence provided HERE, that inviting and bringing children to watch nude dancing and simulated sex acts is worth dismissing and mocking anyone who objects to inviting children to that? Drag queens and burlesque dancers and similar performers are not going out and finding child-friendly locations to do such things. This is on parents, to decide to take their kids to shows and venues that are designated for ADULTS. I don't have kids and I don't need parents bringing their young kids to rated R movies and yet... they do. That is to be addressed as questionable PARENTING decisions. As a fully functioning adult, I am happy to have children excluded from adults-only entertainment venues.
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Post by morecowbell on Apr 6, 2023 19:58:34 GMT
Are you seriously alleging that since it didn't happen in an assembly and you couldn't be bothered looking at the linked evidence provided HERE, that inviting and bringing children to watch nude dancing and simulated sex acts is worth dismissing and mocking anyone who objects to inviting children to that? She's correctly pointing out that no children were attending any such show unless an adult brought them to it. Drag performers are not infiltrating places were children might be a captive audience without their parents. I'm still curious why these laws are targeting this one type of sexual performance, place, or event, and not all the others - R-rated and even some PG-13 movies, "breastaurants," children's pageants, Renaissance faires in some cases - to which parents routinely bring their children. Perhaps you can clear that up. Some adult content drag performers are inviting "all ages". What kind of person even wants to perform nude and simulated sex acts for children? That's the difference I and many others see. Cleavage is a lot different than that and you don't need a special restaurant to see that.
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