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Post by onelasttime on Mar 10, 2023 1:32:09 GMT
New Poll. Since it was announced trump was being indicted there has been a lot of outcry that an ex-president shouldn’t be indicted. Especially for paying hush money to someone. We don’t know what is in the indictment and won’t until I guess Tuesday. But it has to do how I guess he did it.
My last post is a guess opinion in the New York Times and while reading it I thought maybe I will ask if we shouldn’t indict ex-presidents. That because they are ex-presidents the laws about mundane stuff shouldn’t apply to them.
I’m one of those who believe I don’t care who you are if you break a law then you are held accountable.
Ok, ok twitter is all a buzz with the news indictments may actually be coming down for trump involving payments to Stormy Daniels.
So of course I’m going to do a poll.
Do you think at long last trump will be indicted? Is the question.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 10, 2023 1:53:10 GMT
Of all the things he had done that’s the one that will possibly trip him up? I don’t know the law but that seems to be the least of his crimes or is it just this is the one they know they can prove. This will not turn his followers as they already know this and seem to think it’s no big deal and that the grabbing a woman by the pussy or kissing a woman against her will is just locker talk and not real.
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Post by AussieMeg on Mar 10, 2023 1:54:43 GMT
Old Teflon Trump? Pffft, I doubt it. I hope so, though.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 10, 2023 1:57:51 GMT
I don't know anymore but he needs to be.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 10, 2023 2:13:32 GMT
Didn’t they finally get some big time mafia guy for tax evasion back in the day as it was the only charge they could get him on?
There are so many things that trump should be nailed on but somehow he always manages to escape them.
It would somehow be fitting if what finally did him in was payments to Stormy Daniels.
And I personally don’t care what his supporters think. Either we are a country of laws or we aren’t. And no one, that includes presidents or ex-presidents, is above the law.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Mar 10, 2023 2:23:35 GMT
I doubt it. I hope against hope I am wrong.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 10, 2023 2:35:12 GMT
Didn’t they finally get some big time mafia guy for tax evasion back in the day as it was the only charge they could get him on? There are so many things that trump should be nailed on but somehow he always manages to escape them. It would somehow be fitting if what finally did him in was payments to Stormy Daniels. And I personally don’t care what his supporters think. Either we are a country of laws or we aren’t. And no one, that includes presidents or ex-presidents, is above the law. The thing is is this something that would hold a large enough penalty? Or is it just to keep him from running again? I think everyone should have to follow the same rules but we already know that often if you have money you don’t have to follow the same rules. No one should be above the law.
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naby64
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Post by naby64 on Mar 10, 2023 2:58:54 GMT
onelasttime Al Capone. We watched the end of The Untouchables tonight. All I could think of well they got him in taxes, why couldn't something "simple" take down Trump.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 10, 2023 3:04:50 GMT
I’m hoping it’s only the first of many indictments to come. He really needs to go down for the classified documents he stole. That one ought to be a slam dunk because no one should be able to get away with that.
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Post by tampascrapper on Mar 10, 2023 4:24:30 GMT
I’m hoping it’s only the first of many indictments to come. He really needs to go down for the classified documents he stole. That one ought to be a slam dunk because no one should be able to get away with that. This!!
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casii
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Post by casii on Mar 10, 2023 14:39:38 GMT
One can hope but at this point, I firmly believe when it's comes to power players, there's different rules for them than us. We'd have been in jail long ago for a fraction of the criming.
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Post by mom on Mar 10, 2023 14:48:41 GMT
I think he might be indicted but that's all. He wont ever be convicted.
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Post by Merge on Mar 10, 2023 14:52:41 GMT
I think he might be indicted but that's all. He wont ever be convicted. I agree, and he'll grift endlessly off the indictment, shaking down his supporters for contributions to his legal fund to battle the "radical leftists" who sought the indictment.
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Post by disneypal on Mar 10, 2023 15:43:43 GMT
Old Teflon Trump? Pffft, I doubt it. I hope so, though.
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Mar 10, 2023 16:24:13 GMT
I wish. But I have no faith anymore than anything will ever happen to him. And even if it does, his supporters won't give a shit, so it won't even matter. Anyone else who has been embroiled in the scandals he has been involved with would have been laughed at when announcing a run for president. Yet here we are.
I said years ago, can you imagine if Obama had done even ONE of the things Trump has done? If right before the election, a tape of him saying he grabs women by the p*ssy was released? Just that one thing alone would have given the presidency to McCain. And that's not even taking into consideration that if a black man running for president had children from 3 different wives, he likely wouldn't have even gotten far enough to be the Democratic candidate.
I will be completely shocked if Trump ever gets indicted for anything.
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Post by kmcginn on Mar 10, 2023 16:50:02 GMT
One can hope!
One of the news shows I was watching last night outlined the FOUR criminal investigations he's under. Hopefully one will come to fruition! I would love to see hime convicted. He can't serve as president from jail!
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Post by refugeepea on Mar 10, 2023 17:36:49 GMT
I'm going to say yes. Sometimes I listen to The Meidas Touch podcast. One of the brothers is a lawyer and is good at explaining legal procedures. I'm not hopeful it will be much of a sentence though. Still, there's the rape trial, the GA election fraud, January 6th, stealing classified documents.....
FFS, one of these has to be consequential!
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 10, 2023 17:55:52 GMT
If there is one thing trump should be indicted for its the call he made to Georgia asking them to “find” x numbers of votes. There is an investigation currently underway. Then this little nugget came to light… From Georgia Public Broadcasting.. link”The Georgia Senate passed a bill that would create a commission with power to remove district attorneys on Day 27. Senate Bill 92, sponsored by Senator Randy Robertson (R – Catuala), would create an oversight commission for Georgia's district attorneys. The eight member panel could remove district attorneys and solicitor generals for a variety of issues, including refusal to prosecute certain crimes or physical or mental incapacity. Robertson, a former law enforcement officer, said that the bill extends oversight that law enforcement already has to district attorneys and the solicitor general. He believes the bill is key for criminal justice system oversight. "I spent over 30 years in the criminal justice system. I welcome oversight in the criminal justice system," he said. "I welcome it. I want the individuals in the criminal justice system to be held to the same standard that I was when I was there. I want the standards to be increased. We see riots and we see people running all over the place saying the justice system isn't fair and that people are able to do whatever they want." Robertson gave several examples of attorneys or solicitor generals he said should be held accountable for refusing to prosecute certain crimes or conflicts of interest. Some Georgia district attorneys have said they will not prosecute misdemeanor marijuana possession charges or illegal abortions. Former prosecutor Sen. Harold Jones II (D – Augusta), opposed the SB 92. He said it did little to actually aid the criminal justice system and raised concerns over the commission being potentially discriminatory. "You cannot suspend someone for a disability," Jones II said. "Of course, their disability will interfere with their job, if that's what you're talking about, if you do not give them reasonable accommodation. What's going to happen is the commission is going to have to fix this, because right now it is not legal. And when they do that, everything you thought you created is going to be narrowed down into nothingness," he said. Jones added that he thought the commission was a "bureaucratic nightmare" and that the Senate should pass laws to curb suspected ethics problems among district attorneys instead. Both Republicans and Democrats accused the other side of making public safety a partisan issue. SB 92 passed 32 to 24 in a mostly party-line vote. It now moves to the House.”
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Post by scrappinmama on Mar 10, 2023 19:26:09 GMT
I voted no because it seems like nothing gets to him. Of all the horrible things he has done, he seems to always come out unscathed. But boy do I hope they eventually get him on something.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 10, 2023 21:40:20 GMT
Hmm..
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Post by Merge on Mar 10, 2023 23:33:43 GMT
If there is one thing trump should be indicted for its the call he made to Georgia asking them to “find” x numbers of votes. There is an investigation currently underway. Then this little nugget came to light… From Georgia Public Broadcasting.. link”The Georgia Senate passed a bill that would create a commission with power to remove district attorneys on Day 27. Senate Bill 92, sponsored by Senator Randy Robertson (R – Catuala), would create an oversight commission for Georgia's district attorneys. The eight member panel could remove district attorneys and solicitor generals for a variety of issues, including refusal to prosecute certain crimes or physical or mental incapacity. Robertson, a former law enforcement officer, said that the bill extends oversight that law enforcement already has to district attorneys and the solicitor general. He believes the bill is key for criminal justice system oversight. "I spent over 30 years in the criminal justice system. I welcome oversight in the criminal justice system," he said. "I welcome it. I want the individuals in the criminal justice system to be held to the same standard that I was when I was there. I want the standards to be increased. We see riots and we see people running all over the place saying the justice system isn't fair and that people are able to do whatever they want." Robertson gave several examples of attorneys or solicitor generals he said should be held accountable for refusing to prosecute certain crimes or conflicts of interest. Some Georgia district attorneys have said they will not prosecute misdemeanor marijuana possession charges or illegal abortions. Former prosecutor Sen. Harold Jones II (D – Augusta), opposed the SB 92. He said it did little to actually aid the criminal justice system and raised concerns over the commission being potentially discriminatory. "You cannot suspend someone for a disability," Jones II said. "Of course, their disability will interfere with their job, if that's what you're talking about, if you do not give them reasonable accommodation. What's going to happen is the commission is going to have to fix this, because right now it is not legal. And when they do that, everything you thought you created is going to be narrowed down into nothingness," he said. Jones added that he thought the commission was a "bureaucratic nightmare" and that the Senate should pass laws to curb suspected ethics problems among district attorneys instead. Both Republicans and Democrats accused the other side of making public safety a partisan issue. SB 92 passed 32 to 24 in a mostly party-line vote. It now moves to the House.” Texas has a similar bill in the lege this year. If passed, we all know these laws will only be used to punish/removed blue-county DAs who use their prosecutorial discretion to direct resources away from GOP hot-button issues like abortion, or who attempt to prosecute GOP politicians for their crimes. Red states are looking for any way they can to keep the blue cities toeing the line. Fuckers. I'd like to see them manage their budget without the blue city tax bases.
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Post by Gem Girl on Mar 10, 2023 23:47:08 GMT
One can hope! One of the news shows I was watching last night outlined the FOUR criminal investigations he's under. Hopefully one will come to fruition! I would love to see hime convicted. He can't serve as president from jail! I hate to say it, but I think that there is literally no law against his serving as president from jail. He's just such a trailblazer in so many ways, as far as rules we never thought we'd have to say out loud (much less codify into law) for a president.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 11, 2023 0:20:58 GMT
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Post by hannahruth on Mar 14, 2023 6:52:14 GMT
Being an Australian living in Australia I don’t really have knowledge of your voting system but what I have seen in the media since Trump first decided to run I cannot see that he shouldn’t be indicted.
However imho those who are building cases against him seem to stall at the post and there is nothing … the case just seems to die a slow death. There must be someone in America that has the knowledge/power/legalise or what ever it takes to throw the book at him for something other that paying off a call girl!
The Republicans seem to be wary of him, no one seems to stand up to him, verbally, but someone needs to tell it as it is.
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Post by h2ohdog on Mar 14, 2023 11:14:04 GMT
Oh, I hope he is indicted, but I am so bitter about getting excited about indictments, etc, and then nothing. I’ve lived through a few Teflon presidents. I wish I didn’t think this way.
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Post by scrapngranny on Mar 14, 2023 16:54:57 GMT
I’m praying nature takes is course, and the whole damned thing will go away. In lieu of that I certainly hope he gets indicted. The only thing that bothers me is, after all illegal and unconstitutional things he’s pulled, sex with stripper is the thing he gets indicted for. Come on America, we should be able to do better than that.
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Post by casii on Mar 14, 2023 16:58:31 GMT
I’m praying nature takes is course, and the whole damned thing will go away. In lieu of that I certainly hope he gets indicted. The only thing that bothers me is, after all illegal and unconstitutional things he’s pulled, sex with stripper is the thing he gets indicted for. Come on America, we should be able to do better than that. Oh no doubt we forget a speed trap ticket that came in the mail late and we'd be held accountable for it, but we're normals. There's a whole system working hard to keep the Cheeto Mussolini from losing his access to girdles, spray tans and candy floss hair.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 17, 2023 20:01:20 GMT
Next week could be interesting.
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Post by edie3 on Mar 17, 2023 20:57:17 GMT
To quote Elvis:
A little less conversation, a little more action, please All this aggravation ain't satisfactioning me A little more bite and a little less bark
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Post by Gem Girl on Mar 17, 2023 21:03:16 GMT
Next week could be interesting. Most of the cruddy things TFG did hit the Fri 5 PM news cycle, so I thought it would be appropriate if this did, too. Better for it to be on a Monday, so his adoring deplorable crew is stuck at work for the week before they can react.
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