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Post by onelasttime on Mar 31, 2023 15:29:02 GMT
I was wondering why trump was waiting until Tuesday to turn himself in. I mean he has a plane so he could have hopped on it this morning and been back in Florida by dinner tonight.
So why wait until Tuesday?
Then this tweet by MTG told me what I should have already figured out. trump wants his followers to show up in big numbers to protest. So he had to give them a couple of days to get to NY.
This is January 6 all over again.
I really like the response to MTG’s tweet.
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Mar 31, 2023 15:33:37 GMT
UGH It's not a witch hunt. Good grief, they have charged him with 30 plus things! Besides, a grand jury is who indicted him. I can't stand how they are portraying this as a political stunt by the DA. A group of people who spend 18 months serving on a grand jury saw whatever evidence the DA provided and decided there was enough to charge him.
I'm so sick of the bullshit. He's a damn criminal, most rational people know this. I find it so ironic that in the summer of 2016, all the big wigs in the Republican party hated Trump. One even said that if he becomes president, he will ruin the Republican party. Now, that man is so far up Trumps butt. They all are. And I do not get it, never will. I don't understand why they don't dump him before the Republican party completely implodes on itself.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 31, 2023 15:35:08 GMT
So the Secret Service needs from yesterday to Tuesday to prepare? I seriously doubt it.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Mar 31, 2023 15:48:23 GMT
And then with DeSantis saying he won't comply with an extradition request, is Trump going to create more drama by not even showing up in NY?
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Post by Princess Amy on Mar 31, 2023 16:25:48 GMT
A governor cannot stop a legal extradition. The constitution governs extradition
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Post by casii on Mar 31, 2023 16:28:03 GMT
And then with DeSantis saying he won't comply with an extradition request, is Trump going to create more drama by not even showing up in NY? DeSantis just got spanked by a cartoon mouse so of course, he's trying to shore up his base.
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 31, 2023 16:37:50 GMT
As much as I would love to see trump thrown into jail next Tuesday it ain’t going to happen. This idiot should know that.
What I want to know is the shorter tweet is all about.
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Post by Merge on Mar 31, 2023 16:51:03 GMT
Whatever damage Trump’s followers do in Tuesday, the right will claim that it was really Antifa or a police-guided tourist event.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 31, 2023 16:56:51 GMT
The call is out... Minutes after former President Donald Trump was indicted by a grand jury in New York, his supporters flooded social media and extremist message boards with violent and racist threats against the officials prosecuting Trump, as well as bloody civil war.“This cannot go unpunished,” one member of the rabidly pro-Trump message board The Donald wrote on Thursday night. “The DA needs to pay dearly.” “None of this will stop unless there is blood in the streets,” another poster wrote. In Trump’s own statement, the former president called the indictment a “political persecution” and referred to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg as “hand-picked and funded by George Soros,” and stated that Bragg is “doing Joe Biden’s dirty work.” *** .... another user commented: “There once was a time when he would have been lynched for much less.”“Can’t we put a bounty on Bragg’s head? Time to fight lawlessness with lawlessness,” one user wrote. In response, someone said: “Hey man a lot of us are thinking the same thing, but if I said what should really happen I'd be charged with ‘terroristic threats.’” And it goes on..... www.vice.com/en/article/5d9p9q/trump-indictment-civil-war-the-donald
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Post by casii on Mar 31, 2023 17:11:31 GMT
The call is out... Minutes after former President Donald Trump was indicted by a grand jury in New York, his supporters flooded social media and extremist message boards with violent and racist threats against the officials prosecuting Trump, as well as bloody civil war.“This cannot go unpunished,” one member of the rabidly pro-Trump message board The Donald wrote on Thursday night. “The DA needs to pay dearly.” “None of this will stop unless there is blood in the streets,” another poster wrote. In Trump’s own statement, the former president called the indictment a “political persecution” and referred to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg as “hand-picked and funded by George Soros,” and stated that Bragg is “doing Joe Biden’s dirty work.” *** .... another user commented: “There once was a time when he would have been lynched for much less.”“Can’t we put a bounty on Bragg’s head? Time to fight lawlessness with lawlessness,” one user wrote. In response, someone said: “Hey man a lot of us are thinking the same thing, but if I said what should really happen I'd be charged with ‘terroristic threats.’” And it goes on..... www.vice.com/en/article/5d9p9q/trump-indictment-civil-war-the-donaldThese people are insane. And they're our neighbors.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 31, 2023 19:10:32 GMT
The call is out... Minutes after former President Donald Trump was indicted by a grand jury in New York, his supporters flooded social media and extremist message boards with violent and racist threats against the officials prosecuting Trump, as well as bloody civil war.“This cannot go unpunished,” one member of the rabidly pro-Trump message board The Donald wrote on Thursday night. “The DA needs to pay dearly.” “None of this will stop unless there is blood in the streets,” another poster wrote. In Trump’s own statement, the former president called the indictment a “political persecution” and referred to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg as “hand-picked and funded by George Soros,” and stated that Bragg is “doing Joe Biden’s dirty work.” *** .... another user commented: “There once was a time when he would have been lynched for much less.”“Can’t we put a bounty on Bragg’s head? Time to fight lawlessness with lawlessness,” one user wrote. In response, someone said: “Hey man a lot of us are thinking the same thing, but if I said what should really happen I'd be charged with ‘terroristic threats.’” And it goes on..... www.vice.com/en/article/5d9p9q/trump-indictment-civil-war-the-donaldAnd if they are saying these threats publicly online in writing then why can’t the FBI arrest them prior to Tuesday?
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Post by scrappyesq on Mar 31, 2023 19:41:27 GMT
NYPD and every other law enforcement agency here has been preparing ever since there were whispers of a possible indictment.
That being said after January 6th I don’t think anyone can be fully prepared for the crazy. I’m glad I’ll be on vacay safely ensconced outside of Manhattan on Tuesday.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 31, 2023 19:54:11 GMT
NYPD and every other law enforcement agency here has been preparing ever since there were whispers of a possible indictment. That being said after January 6th I don’t think anyone can be fully prepared for the crazy. I’m glad I’ll be on vacay safely ensconced outside of Manhattan on Tuesday. True enough. But too many will be traveling the NJ Turnpike/GSP past me and/or the Outerbridge crossing, or NJ Transit/Amtrak through town...
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 31, 2023 20:14:34 GMT
NYPD and every other law enforcement agency here has been preparing ever since there were whispers of a possible indictment. That being said after January 6th I don’t think anyone can be fully prepared for the crazy. I’m glad I’ll be on vacay safely ensconced outside of Manhattan on Tuesday. Let’s hope they aren’t caught off guard and can quickly stop whatever nuts show up. We have had more than enough violence.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 31, 2023 21:13:43 GMT
NYPD and every other law enforcement agency here has been preparing ever since there were whispers of a possible indictment. That being said after January 6th I don’t think anyone can be fully prepared for the crazy. I’m glad I’ll be on vacay safely ensconced outside of Manhattan on Tuesday. Let’s hope they aren’t caught off guard and can quickly stop whatever nuts show up. We have had more than enough violence. As scrappyesq mentions every other agency, keep in mind NYC has far more then NYPD with access to others. Others include, NY Housing, Port Authority, FDNY is close up front too. I think Transit police....
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 31, 2023 21:32:23 GMT
Can't wait to see all those folks who acted as if people like Amadou Diallo and Eric Garner got what they had coming whine incessantly about the NYC police when they even look funny at white protestors.
Anyhow, there's a big difference in logistics between getting into and being in DC to protest and getting into and being in NYC to protest, and, frankly, "come protest this grand jury indicting a former president" is not quite the same thrill as "come keep the current president from having to peacefully transition from office." Plus they've learned that people actually do and will get prosecuted. Hopefully this will be a nothingburger.
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Post by pantsonfire on Mar 31, 2023 21:46:20 GMT
Part of me wants the crazies to show up because if they do a federal crime, they can't vote while incarcerated.
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Post by scrappyesq on Mar 31, 2023 21:54:27 GMT
NYPD and every other law enforcement agency here has been preparing ever since there were whispers of a possible indictment. That being said after January 6th I don’t think anyone can be fully prepared for the crazy. I’m glad I’ll be on vacay safely ensconced outside of Manhattan on Tuesday. True enough. But too many will be traveling the NJ Turnpike/GSP past me and/or the Outerbridge crossing, or NJ Transit/Amtrak through town...
The last time crossings were all closed was September 11th and it was insane. With the level of violence we've seen it wouldn't surprise me if it comes to that here. I'm not a doomsday person at all but after watching January 6th as it was happening I don't think that there is anything outside of the realm of possibility. All we need is one crazy on one bridge, on one train or a single credible threatening tweet.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 31, 2023 21:55:31 GMT
They forget NYC has cameras ALL OVER and they are monitored!! There is no quick way to get out of the city. Close the bridges and tunnels, they are trapped. ** scrappyesq I was in NJ on 9/11 just north of the Outerbridge. Gridlock extrordinaire!! They have no clue!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 31, 2023 22:01:26 GMT
MSNBC.. Dominion v FOX will go to trial in two weeks and three days!!
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Post by onelasttime on Mar 31, 2023 22:25:12 GMT
The Republicans mainly in the House have been all but hysterical in their response to trump’s indictment. Greg Sargent & Paul Waldman wrote a column about this in The Washington Post. Gift Article.. wapo.st/3G88H6k “Opinion The unhinged GOP defense of Trump is the real ‘test’ for our democracy”By Greg Sargent and Paul Waldman March 31, 2023 at 5:16 Gift Article “Because the indictment of a former president is unprecedented in U.S. history, it has become a media cliche to assert that the prosecution of Donald Trump will “test our democracy.” The oft-expressed idea is that if the public dismisses the new charges against Trump as banana republic-style political persecution, it would show democracy failing the “test.” But this gets the story wrong. Declaring that the indictment is testing our democracy in this way doesn’t capture what makes this moment so fraught. If anything is posing a test, it’s largely the Republican response to it. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s charges are reportedly related to hush money that Trump paid to a porn actress, which has led some Republicans to dismiss them as weak. But that’s not all Republicans are saying. Many are taking the position that any charges against Trump (who has denied wrongdoing) should be seen as presumptively illegitimate no matter the counts against Trump or the facts that underlie them. “It is beyond belief,” raged Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin, that Bragg “has indicted a former President and current presidential candidate for pure political gain.” The careful reader will note that Youngkin’s complaint is not simply that the indictment itself is flimsy. That is not what makes the charges “political.” Rather, it’s that Trump was indicted at all.Similarly, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) railed that the indictment has already “irreparably damaged our country” and “weaponized our sacred system of justice.” Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance called it “a direct assault” on tens of millions of Trump supporters. Another Republican called it “a threat to our Republic.” One conservative leader compared it to “old Soviet show trials.”None of those claims is contingent on the charges against Trump ultimately proving weak. The argument is essentially that they constitute a mortal threat to the country simply by virtue of having been filed against Trump at all.To be clear, the indictment itself might prove to be a weak case. Trump might be charged with falsifying business records, but to make that a felony, that falsification would have to conceal another crime. To fit that bill, prosecutors might try to classify the hush money payment as an improper campaign finance violation. Some legal experts worry this constitutes a novel, untested legal theory. If the charges are weak, it might be reasonable to question the wisdom of the decision to bring them. On the other hand, there are reportedly more than 30 counts against Trump, so there may be grave charges we don’t know about.Either way, these GOP responses do not leave discernible room for the possibility that the charges may prove far more damning than Republicans expect. It’s hard to see Republicans ever retreating to an acknowledgment that the process should run its course, enabling the truth to prevail.This context is what renders the notion that this poses a “test” to our democracy so impoverished. Here’s how a New York Times analysis frames the situation: Will it be seen by many at home and abroad as victor’s justice akin to developing nations where former leaders are imprisoned by their successors? Or will it become a moment of reckoning, a sign that even someone who was once the most powerful person on the planet is not above the law?But if the former is a real possibility, it’s largely because Republicans are making it more likely by casting the process as inherently illegitimate in advance. If this is not stated clearly and forthrightly, Republican agency is erased from the equation entirely. Democrats, too, have a role to play here. If Trump is acquitted of these charges and any other ones, Democrats will have to reinforce the idea that the process rendered its verdict and that it must be respected. If the process is dubious, Democrats should absolutely say so. Voters often take their cues from elites. The degree to which senior Republicans acknowledge that the law should be applied to Trump, just as it is to everyone else, will help shape how accepting voters, especially Republican ones, are of the outcome. Are you hearing any such acknowledgment? Even worse, some elite right-wing media figures are hinting at violence. “People better be careful, and that’s all I’ll say about that,” snarled Fox News host Jesse Watters. His colleague Tucker Carlson warned that this is “probably not the best time to give up your AR-15s.”The position implied here is that the price of social peace is absolute impunity for Trump. The insistence that Trump must be kept above the law — no matter his wrongdoing — courses through all these GOP responses. Media accounts should centralize this fact. This appalling civic conduct is itself a major story. Yes, a prosecution of a president is unprecedented in the United States. But as a new Post piece demonstrates, many other advanced democracies — including Israel, Italy, France and South Korea — have seen prosecutions of former presidents and prime ministers, usually for various kinds of corruption. It’s perfectly plausible that the charges against Trump prove damning, the process is handled with integrity and Trump is found guilty — and a large swath of voters cannot accept that as a legitimate reckoning, precisely because one of our major political parties refused to acknowledge it as such.
If so, that would constitute a truly glaring failure of our “test.” Unsettlingly, it may be the most likely outcome of all.”
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Post by amom23 on Mar 31, 2023 22:28:09 GMT
I actually don't think there will be too many people there protesting on Trump's behalf. The NYPD seems pretty good at this sort of thing so it seems doubtful any protesters that do come won't be able to pull off too much crazy.
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Post by onelasttime on Apr 1, 2023 2:00:45 GMT
Yesterday trump lawyers said it would take a couple of days for the Secret Service to get security in place in NY. That is why they wanted to come next week.
At the time I thought that it didn’t sound right because the Secret Service is use to putting security in place with a little notice.
The Secret Service has responded.
So now more then ever I think this was a stalling tactic to give his brain dead followers time to make their way to NY to protest.
I sincerely hope none show up because if there are none there trump’s ego will take a hard hit.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Apr 1, 2023 2:29:17 GMT
Yesterday trump lawyers said it would take a couple of days for the Secret Service to get security in place in NY. That is why they wanted to come next week. At the time I thought that it didn’t sound right because the Secret Service is use to putting security in place with a little notice. The Secret Service has responded. So now more then ever I think this was a stalling tactic to give his brain dead followers time to make their way to NY to protest. I sincerely hope none show up because if there are none there trump’s ego will take a hard hit. Especially as I am sure they knew it was a possibility and have been planning for it. We know it was to make a bigger show of it. He is all about the drama.
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