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Post by kokomo37 on Apr 11, 2023 1:01:29 GMT
I searched the board but nothing came up . It’s something I have been thinking about as I have at least 60 lbs to loose . I have tried various programs over the last 18 years but nothing has been really successful. I have chronic sciatic , I have had my left knee replaced and I am so sore all,over. I know the weight loss would make me feel so much healthier. It’s hard to even walk distance because of the pain especially in my knee. I just watched a you tube video that Katie Couric did with a obese specialist. It was very well presented. Any thoughts?
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Post by purplebee on Apr 11, 2023 1:08:10 GMT
I know someone who is taking it strictly for weight loss. He is paying out of pocket as his insurance won’t cover it. It’s pretty expensive. Anything I have read about it says that it does work, though there are potential gastro side effects, but the weight comes right back as soon as you stop taking it. Good luck in making a decision, I know how hard it is to lose weight.
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Post by mom on Apr 11, 2023 1:11:52 GMT
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Post by annaintx on Apr 11, 2023 1:14:45 GMT
My brother lives in CA, he needs it for the actual drug use but can't get it b/c all the people who want to take it for weight loss.
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Post by kokomo37 on Apr 11, 2023 1:17:15 GMT
I am hoping to not only loose weight but getting my appetite under control when eating. I have no problem really with intermittent fasting but I eat too much when I eat. I have a difficult time with portion control. If I do this It is going to be very important to me that as my stomach capacity shrinks, I maintain the smaller size and amt of food I consume at a meal . I know of 4 people who have had a gastric sleeve done but they didn’t change their eating habits . So disappointing to see them go through surgery, hair loss and having to take many daily supplements to be back at where they started all most. I do known of 2 who have been very successful
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Post by kokomo37 on Apr 11, 2023 1:18:43 GMT
I live in Canada and I haven’t heard of a shortage as yet. Definitely would hate to take it away for someone who needs it to help with their diabetes
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Post by ~Sherri~ on Apr 11, 2023 1:31:04 GMT
I am a type 2 diabetic and use two types of insulin-long acting and fast acting. I am also a cardiac patient with several cardiac issues. My dr started me on Ozempic last month and I did have to get prior authorization before our insurance would pay for it. It costs $2675 for a 3 month supply. Thankfully I have met our deductible for the year. I am taking .50 once a week. So far I have lost 21 pounds. I do not have an appetite for food. I eat about 1 meal a day. I had a little nausea when I first started taking it. More often I have indigestion and burp way more than I ever did. My sugars are still a bit high at times but rarely over 200 now. I also use a Dexcom 6 continous glucose monitor.
I have also been doing a lot of walking, either on the treadmill at the gym or at one our local state parks. It has helped the arthritis in my knees so much.
I am at risk for stroke and heart attack and also take Eliquis. Ozempic is supposed to reduce my risk of stroke and heart attack. That makes me happier than the weight loss part. I am 57 and want to see my grandkids grow up.
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Post by kokomo37 on Apr 11, 2023 1:37:28 GMT
Mom, thanks for the link!
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Post by peabay on Apr 11, 2023 1:39:58 GMT
the only person I know who took it couldn't deal with the nausea side effect.
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Post by peano on Apr 11, 2023 3:41:09 GMT
Here's a recent article from The Atlantic on Ozempic and other drugs being used for weight loss. I currently take Ozempic for diabetes--actually prediabetes--I've been able to lower my A1C using intermittent fasting and Ozempic and consistent exercise. My personal experience has been that between November 2021 and early summer 2022, I upped my dosage to 1mg from .5 mg while at the same time starting an SNRI antidepressant. I was continually nauseated, in retrospect, probably from both meds. I lost 30ish pounds as a result. Ozempic also mimics gastroparesis, so food is delayed in emptying from your stomach to your small intestine, so it decreases appetite. It took a while to acclimate to the meds, but I now take them with no issues.
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Post by mich5481 on Apr 11, 2023 4:06:28 GMT
I started a couple weeks ago on Wegovy. I've met my max out of pocket until the end of May, so my next two refills should be free. I've lost some weight and I'm not as hungry as before. I'm going to have my doc increase the dose for my second round of monthly shots.
I haven't had any noticeable side effects, but I am still hungry frequently, which is why I want to increase the dosage.
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Post by Linda on Apr 11, 2023 4:28:36 GMT
I take the same active ingredient in a pill form for type 2 diabetes (in conjunction with other diabetes medications).
I have lost some weight. My a1c is going down. I find I hit a wall eating...where I just can't take another bite which helps with portion control. Side effects - some nausea, some constipation...the latter mostly resolved once I was used to the medication and then came back with an increased dose (and went away again mostly). I just need to be careful to drink enough water.
I am fortunate that my insurance covers it at $50/90 days because it is expensive - I wouldn't be able to take it if I didn't have good insurance.
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Post by sueg on Apr 11, 2023 6:54:17 GMT
I've been on Ozempic for diabetes for a while now - probably coming up to two years. I did lose weight at first, mainly because I felt so sick and bloated that eating just wasn't pleasant or comfortable. After a while, those side effect wore off a bit, but then the weight loss stopped, and I actually put some back on. In the past week, my GP has uncovered some other gastro problems in my bloodwork, so it will be interesting to see how things go now. I am on such a restricted diet until I see her again at the end of the month that I am losing weight again, which is the only upside.
Right now, I can't get a repeat prescription for it filled, due to supply issues, which is really annoying. cost isn't an issue here - I pay €10 for the three month supply.
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Post by gensmith on Apr 11, 2023 10:31:47 GMT
I have two friends taking it with great success and minimal side effects. They’ve lost 40 and 75 pounds since Fall. There are many people that talk about their experiences on TikTok if you look it up and are on there.
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Post by mamapeaah on Apr 11, 2023 10:37:12 GMT
I am taking it for weight loss, my insurance does not pay for it, but I am getting it from Canada for a lot less.
I am at 1mg now and have lost maybe 12 pounds.
I had some side effects such as heart burn but that stopped.
The only other effect I get it feeling full from eating.
The interesting thing is that this has really reduced my shopping as well.
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Post by peasapie on Apr 11, 2023 12:04:13 GMT
I know someone who is taking it strictly for weight loss. He is paying out of pocket as his insurance won’t cover it. It’s pretty expensive. Anything I have read about it says that it does work, though there are potential gastro side effects, but the weight comes right back as soon as you stop taking it. Good luck in making a decision, I know how hard it is to lose weight. Yes to all of this. I know someone who has been using it for several months and lost 40 lbs. She pays out of pocket and I recall it’s expensive but not sure how much. I don’t know anyone who has lost weight and subsequently gone off it, but I too have heard the weight comes right back if you stop. (Maybe that is if you don’t change your eating habits, though.)
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Post by blue tulip on Apr 11, 2023 12:47:32 GMT
i would look in to gastric sleeve instead, but i am biased because i had the surgery almost 5 years ago. i did the med, diet, exercise routes over and over. i would change my habits for a while, maybe even a year or more, but eventually the weight came back because it wasn't sustainable. if you've gained and lost over and over your life, surgery might be right for you. it has significant metabolic advantages and is a tool that you will always have. it's not a magic bullet, as you've seen, and there are ways to defeat it. but it can be so, so great. changed my life 1000% and was better than any diet or med i'd ever done. i've been this weight before, but never maintaining as easily, for years, with this quality of life.
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Post by jenb72 on Apr 11, 2023 12:56:50 GMT
I am hoping to not only loose weight but getting my appetite under control when eating. I have no problem really with intermittent fasting but I eat too much when I eat. I have a difficult time with portion control. If I do this It is going to be very important to me that as my stomach capacity shrinks, I maintain the smaller size and amt of food I consume at a meal . I know of 4 people who have had a gastric sleeve done but they didn’t change their eating habits . So disappointing to see them go through surgery, hair loss and having to take many daily supplements to be back at where they started all most. I do known of 2 who have been very successful I'm currently taking Wegovy for weight loss and that is one thing I can definitely say this medication does is curb my appetite. My husband commented yesterday that it seems my appetite has fallen through the floor. I honestly didn't eat huge portions at meals to begin with, but this still has cut that at least in half. I feel full much sooner and I feel crappy if I push it and overeat, so I'm better at listening to my body and stopping when I feel full. My BIL (who lives with us) likes to cook steak on nights he does dinner. We're all trying to watch portion sizes so he weighs each piece he cooks. Mine is always 6 oz. And trust me, 6 oz piece of steak on a plate looks positively miniscule, lol, but between that and a helping of veggies (usually roasted broccoli or green beans), I'm stuffed by the time dinner is over. It blows my mind sometimes. I don't seem to have many of the sensitivities to foods that the med is famous for - I can still eat dairy and fats (in moderation, of course). The one thing that has caused me any discomfort at all is fruit juice. I don't normally drink fruit juice, but DH decided he really likes the Bai fruit juices that have no added sugars and no artificial sweeteners. So he bought me a couple he though I might like. Drinking just one will have me up all night in the bathroom and feeling bloated and icky for at least the next 24 hours. So now I avoid those. I also don't typically deal with too much nausea from it. I am prone to that so I take mine at night before bed so I can sleep through any of those symptoms. On one or two occasions I've woken up feeling a little nauseous but it passes quickly and I'm able to go back to sleep. It's always been on the night I take the meds (which is weekly). Having said all that, I've been on it two months now and the only weight I've lost thus far is on the two occasions I was sick because of the juice (the first time I couldn't pin down what it was - the second time I figured it out). Prior to Wegovy I was taking Saxenda, which is a slightly lower dose med of the same kind. I didn't have any weight loss then, either, which is why we switched it up to the Wegovy. Also, because others have commented on the cost, mine is covered by insurance. I pay $25 a refill (which is about monthly). I believe this is at least partly because both are FDA approved. Ozempic is not. And I know from experience that both Saxenda and Wegovy have programs that will help with cost if need be. I can't speak to Ozempic in that regard. Jen
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 11, 2023 14:28:05 GMT
I started on Mar 2, and I’m down 13 pounds. I’ve titrated up one level, so I’m now taking .5 weekly of a compounded semaglutide, and paying out of pocket.
* Definitely curbs my appetite, but I was never a big meal eater, more of an all-day grazer. I am making a conscious effort to eat more protein, because when I don’t I feel a little queasy. * Fatigue has been my main symptom, and I take a B12 shot to combat that. * I had quite a few drinks on Friday night and felt slightly nauseated all day on Saturday. This was new to me, as I have never had a hangover or gotten sick from alcohol, no matter how much I drink. * I have a severe needle phobia, so that’s been a thing. The subcutaneous shot for the semaglutide is barely noticeable, but I still struggle with the intramuscular B12 injection, so my husband does it for me. * I haven’t had any burping, but I don’t really burp in general. * I haven’t thrown up. * I haven’t had gastrointestinal issues, although I’m drinking more water and preemptively taking pills to try to avoid it.
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Post by peace on Apr 11, 2023 15:40:29 GMT
I know a husband and wife that both went on and say it has been life changing. She is a diabetic. He is not. They both lost 40-50 pounds. She is a nurse and while she didn't have any bad side effects, she did say that has been pretty common for people to experience something unpleasant but she would do it again because it worked.
Those of you that are on it, what is the criteria for docs to prescribe? Isn't ozempic for diabetics and wegovy is the same thing (basically) but for people without diabetes?
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Post by busy on Apr 11, 2023 15:42:40 GMT
Also, because others have commented on the cost, mine is covered by insurance. I pay $25 a refill (which is about monthly). I believe this is at least partly because both are FDA approved. Ozempic is not. And I know from experience that both Saxenda and Wegovy have programs that will help with cost if need be. I can't speak to Ozempic in that regard.
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Just a point of clarification - Ozempic IS FDA-approved (as a diabetes medication). Using it for weight loss is an off-label use, but many many drugs have totally valid and safe off-label uses.
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Post by danalz on Apr 11, 2023 16:22:13 GMT
Also, because others have commented on the cost, mine is covered by insurance. I pay $25 a refill (which is about monthly). I believe this is at least partly because both are FDA approved. Ozempic is not. And I know from experience that both Saxenda and Wegovy have programs that will help with cost if need be. I can't speak to Ozempic in that regard. Jen My insurance will only pay for Ozempic if you are diabetic, which I am. My pharmacy will also only fill it if you have insurance to pay for it. They will refuse to fill for anyone wanting to pay out of pocket because they want to keep their inventory for diabetics who need it. Which reminds me, it's time for my monthly refill and the game of "which pharmacy can get it to me without waiting 2-3 weeks for it?"
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Post by kokomo37 on Apr 11, 2023 16:42:00 GMT
Thanks for all of the input. I have an appointment with my doctor tomorrow afternoon. I am keeping my fingers crossed that she agrees with me and it is worth a try. I will keep you posted .
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 11, 2023 17:15:58 GMT
Those of you that are on it, what is the criteria for docs to prescribe? Isn't ozempic for diabetics and wegovy is the same thing (basically) but for people without diabetes? The criteria for doctors to prescribe it is definitely a grey area. My doctor’s requirements were over 30 BMI, or over 27 BMI with comorbidities. (I believe these are the general recommendations, as I’ve seen them a lot.) I have a friend who got her doctor to prescribe it for one month, because she weighed 130 and wanted to lose 8 pounds, which she did. Some doctors will prescribe anything, tbh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The criteria of whether it’s covered under insurance will vary depending on your insurance plan.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 11, 2023 17:21:44 GMT
i would look in to gastric sleeve instead, but i am biased because i had the surgery almost 5 years ago. What are the parameters for this? I always sort of assumed it was for people who needed significant weight loss, not someone looking to lose 60 pounds. ETA: Not that 60 pounds is insignificant, but hopefully you know what I mean.
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Post by peace on Apr 11, 2023 17:55:56 GMT
Those of you that are on it, what is the criteria for docs to prescribe? Isn't ozempic for diabetics and wegovy is the same thing (basically) but for people without diabetes? The criteria for doctors to prescribe it is definitely a grey area. My doctor’s requirements were over 30 BMI, or over 27 BMI with comorbidities. (I believe these are the general recommendations, as I’ve seen them a lot.) I have a friend who got her doctor to prescribe it for one month, because she weighed 130 and wanted to lose 8 pounds, which she did. Some doctors will prescribe anything, tbh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The criteria of whether it’s covered under insurance will vary depending on your insurance plan. Thank you for that info. I have ALWAYS struggled with 20ish pounds. Right now it's 25 max but I'm so tired of the fight.
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Post by luckyjune on Apr 11, 2023 18:17:10 GMT
I've been on Ozempic since the first of the year. I've lost 20 pounds, which is about 1.5 lbs per week. Isn't the fastest, but slow and steady, right? I've had zero side effects. Right now I'm at the weight my body seems to want to be at (it's been this way since I had kids...almost 28 years ago). I'm hoping the weight loss continues right through this setpoint instead of being stalled up, which has caused me to give up in the past.
I asked my doc about Ozempic in December, at my last yearly check-up. She was very open to it, especially in light of my blood work numbers and insulin resistance. I'm currently on Week 9 of .5. My insurance covers the medication, so my out of pocket is $24.
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Post by Gennifer on Apr 11, 2023 18:46:25 GMT
Thank you for that info. I have ALWAYS struggled with 20ish pounds. Right now it's 25 max but I'm so tired of the fight. I’ll tell you what I told my friend: Just because I weigh more doesn’t make my body issues any more valid or important than yours. Good luck.
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Post by blue tulip on Apr 12, 2023 13:05:04 GMT
i would look in to gastric sleeve instead, but i am biased because i had the surgery almost 5 years ago. What are the parameters for this? I always sort of assumed it was for people who needed significant weight loss, not someone looking to lose 60 pounds. ETA: Not that 60 pounds is insignificant, but hopefully you know what I mean. for insurance to cover it, it can vary. for mine, you had to have a BMI of 35-40 with 3 comorbidities like high blood pressure, high cholesterol, sleep apnea (my 3), others. or a BMI of over 40. other plans don't cover it at all. When my husband had it, our insurance had changed and tho he qualified under the old rules, he didn't anymore; so he went to Mexico Bariatric Center and had it done. On average, sleeve surgery will help you lose 40-60% of your excess weight. So people who are less overweight will lose less than people who are very overweight, according to their BMI. i lost 87# at my lowest, stabilized now at 74 which is a healthy weight for me, a size 6. i'm off blood pressure meds, no apnea,no longer prediabetic, cholesterol went down from the danger zone where they wanted me to be on meds. My husband is no longer on blood pressure or cholesterol meds, his back pain is so much better (he has degenerative disc disease and has already had one surgery 15 yrs ago). he only lost 45lbs, he's kept it off for 2 years so far and is doing really well. he was not as overweight as me, but was dealing with the same things- gaining and losing the same amount over and over and tho he worked out 5 days a week and was dieting and eating right, his metabolism was just "broken'.. nothing was working anymore. a person can't be expected to eat lean chicken breasts and green beans and never a sweet or treat for months on end to maintain a 20# weight loss, in my opinion. it wasn't sustainable for us. we did keto, we did just healthy eating with the right carbs, healthy starches. we did all the programs. i've been this weight before, twice, once for several years. i was miserable and the second i slipped up, all the weight plus more came back. it was overwhelming to maintain. this surgery changed everything for me. it changed my metabolic set point so i'm not fighting my body anymore because it's trying to get me back to 230+lbs. now i eat like what i imagine a normal, thin person eats. basically what i want, small portions, mostly healthy but i have treats when i want and fairly often, but no binges because i don't feel restricted. it will be my 5 year anniversary in july. ETA there can be downsides too. i have heartburn now, i never did before. it's worst if i eat too close to bedtime. it's pretty well controlled by tums. some people can have trouble with certain foods after surgery, like carbonated drinks you're supposed to avoid. i don't really care about pop so i was ok with that, i can handle a cider if i stir some bubbles out. some have trouble with milk products. it's not all roses for everyone. you lose hair from telogen effluvium, like after pregnancy. but it grows back. it was all worth it, to me.
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Post by tuva42 on Apr 12, 2023 14:30:12 GMT
I would keep in mind that if you start this drug, you are on it for life. Yes, you can go off, but studies show people who go off the drug regain 2/3 of the weight they lost.
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