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Post by kluski on Apr 15, 2023 2:07:39 GMT
How did you decide to take them or not to take them? Bloodwork came back and I’m in menopause, not surprised. I thought I was handling it well since no real hot flash episodes. But she then lists ALL and I mean all the other balls I’ve been juggling without connecting the dots…low sex drive, depression, increased anxiety, difficulty focusing, blah, blah, blah…
It seems like a no brainer, but I’ve always heard one should not take them. She also said insurance does not cover treatment, but I’m fortunate that isn’t a deal breaker.
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Post by librarylady on Apr 15, 2023 2:27:13 GMT
When I went into menopause, it was routinely prescribed to every woman who was in menopause. I am still angry about that. I had no problems, just stopped having periods....no hot flashes, mood swings etc. At that time, it was believed that the hormones would prevent heart attacks and breast cancer. So I took the Rx. It was AWFUL for me, just AWFUL. I had bad mood swings--I could not stand myself and my poor DH and DS suffered. I gained 20 pounds. I had no interest in sex. I was only 40 years old, and so I took the HRT. Finally about 5 years into it, the medical world decided that HRT didn't prevent any of those things. I immediately began to wean myself off by taking the drugs every few days and then spacing out the times between taking them. By the time I saw my gyn I was off those drugs. Unfortunately the weight stayed with me.
Every person is different. Some women had good experiences with HRT. My body does not like extra estrogen. I was prescribed it once for vaginal dryness and using the suppositories gave me intense headaches.
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Post by milocat on Apr 15, 2023 2:34:58 GMT
Now they use bioidentical hormones, not synthetic like hormone replacement therapy was.
I'm 45 and 2 years ago I wasn't peri menopause but I'm taking a saliva test this month to test for that and other things. I have hormonal migraines, I have tried some things to help my levels and has helped but am plateauing. We're talking about bioidentical hormones eventually. I've looked into them and am very willing to take them when needed.
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Post by kluski on Apr 15, 2023 2:42:35 GMT
Now they use bioidentical hormones, not synthetic like hormone replacement therapy was. I'm 45 and 2 years ago I wasn't peri menopause but I'm taking a saliva test this month to test for that and other things. I have hormonal migraines, I have tried some things to help my levels and has helped but am plateauing. We're talking about bioidentical hormones eventually. I've looked into them and am very willing to take them when needed. Yes she mentioned the bioidentical hormones, specifically a pellet. Biote is the site she told me to read. She also mentioned a topical or patch. I can’t remember if the are bioidentical or synthetic. I think I could handle the cream as it would be a small step. I’m pretty sure a patch or worse the inserted pellet would make me crazy just thinking that I can’t undo them or dealing with the patch stuck on me somewhere.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 15, 2023 2:44:55 GMT
I researched the pros and cons (very different from old medication) and found one that actually helps. I tried some of the OTC ones and they did not work for me.
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Post by mommc23 on Apr 15, 2023 4:02:37 GMT
Hormones effect each person so differently that the only way to know if they are right for you is unfortunately, through trial and error.
I so badly wanted hormones to work for me. I read about the incredible relief many women experience and that there are benefits to staying on hormones indefinitely. However, they completely threw my life off the rails. I tried pills and creams and IUD and patches. My body and joints felt better, but I had terrible side effects. The worst was that I grew facial hair, gained 20 pounds, had uncontrollable crying jags, and after several months, had crippling anxiety ending in panic attacks.
That all stopped when I stopped the hormones.
I’m super bummed about it, but they just did not work for me. I’m generally super sensitive to things like that. I was also a very nauseous pregnant lady and I have read that there can be a correlation to pregnancy nausea and an intolerance for extra progesterone (which you will have to take with estrogen if you haven’t had a hysterectomy).
I wish you all of the best. Dealing with perimenopause and menopause has been a difficult chapter in my life.
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Post by paget on Apr 15, 2023 4:58:35 GMT
Hormones effect each person so differently that the only way to know if they are right for you is unfortunately, through trial and error. I so badly wanted hormones to work for me. I read about the incredible relief many women experience and that there are benefits to staying on hormones indefinitely. However, they completely threw my life off the rails. I tried pills and creams and IUD and patches. My body and joints felt better, but I had terrible side effects. The worst was that I grew facial hair, gained 20 pounds, had uncontrollable crying jags, and after several months, had crippling anxiety ending in panic attacks. That all stopped when I stopped the hormones. I’m super bummed about it, but they just did not work for me. I’m generally super sensitive to things like that. I was also a very nauseous pregnant lady and I have read that there can be a correlation to pregnancy nausea and an intolerance for extra progesterone (which you will have to take with estrogen if you haven’t had a hysterectomy). I wish you all of the best. Dealing with perimenopause and menopause has been a difficult chapter in my life. Thank you for sharing that about the nausea. I was very sick during my three pregnancies- threw up multiple times daily for 9 months -sounds like something I need to look into. I’m in peri menopause but want to have a game plan ready.
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Post by bunnyhug on Apr 15, 2023 5:45:41 GMT
I bought Davina McCall's book Menopausing a couple months ago--it's a great resource, very 'chatty' and approachable.
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Post by milocat on Apr 15, 2023 6:11:45 GMT
You'll want your hormones tested to see if you need to supplement estrogen or progesterone. I would like a cream also, versus a pellet for the reasons you mentioned.
It is better to do hormones while you are still producing them in peri menopause versus waiting until menopause.
I'll check out that book @bunnyhug I follow Dr Lara Briden and Dr Jolene Brighton (totally separate people) on Instagram and have a couple of their books. They talk about all stages a woman goes through from puberty to second puberty and all the hormones, symptoms, pills, supplements involved.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Apr 15, 2023 10:11:57 GMT
I've been on BHRT since I was 40, first for PMDD then peri and now menopause. The hormones and dosages have changed throughout that time. When I first started it was progesterone and testosterone. Now we've added estrogen.
My quality is life was greatly improved. My PMDD was raging and I was miserable (and miserable to be around).
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Post by kluski on Apr 15, 2023 13:19:50 GMT
milocat I didn’t know I could/should have been on them already. My gyn closed during Covid. 🤬 she was actually really good about following blood work. (Which reminds me this new one didn’t take iron or vitD). I went to a new dr last year who did zero bloodwork. I had surgery for a very rare condition 8 years ago, and that is all he asked about. Nothing to do with his field. So now I’m with this new doctor. I feel like a may have missed out on care during an important transition in life. Unfortunately, I can’t remember which number was low (possibly testosterone) but she said I’m at a 7. She said they would put that over 100 to make me feel better. Again, I didn’t realize I was feeling ‘bad’. I just thought it was from stuff I’m going through aka life. I can remember colleagues who were awful to be around. I have a close colleague who would put me in check if I acted out.
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Post by milocat on Apr 15, 2023 15:51:27 GMT
I should have clarified, what I heard (I'm sure it was Dr Briden on a podcast) was don't wait until you are 5, 10 years into menopause and still struggling and then go on hormones. How long have you been in menopause?
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Post by peace on Apr 15, 2023 16:11:42 GMT
I did not take estrogen but it is supposed to work the best for all of the symptoms. I did get breast cancer cause by estrogen so it's probably a good thing I didn't take them. BUT now that I am on an estrogen blocker, my hot flashes are out of this world. I mean, I was always one of those people that could wear a pair of jeans when its in the 90's outside. Heat never really affected me. Now I go from normal to the bowels of hell in a quick minute. My doc suggested effexor. She said while it is an anxiety/depression med, it seems to work really well for hot flashes. So I am going to try because the suffering is real.
Good luck!! I hope you get some relief!!
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Post by lisacharlotte on Apr 15, 2023 18:36:36 GMT
I went into menopause due to chemo/radiation at 43. I suffered for a year. My husband went with me to my appointment to discuss all the changes he had seen and was struggling to deal with. I was hard for me to see the radical changes. I went on a low dose and it was a life (and marriage) saver. I stopped after five years to see if I could do without them. I still have some no hormones symptoms (no libido, easier weight gain in the middle) but I no longer have hot flashes, depression, brain fog, paranoia.
It really is an individual thing. You’ll need to work with your doctor to find what works best for you.
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Post by mom on Apr 15, 2023 19:54:43 GMT
I went through menopause at 26. I started BioTe Pellets at 36 and regret that I didn't start them sooner. They absolutely made my life better --- I didn't realize how 'not me' I had become with depression, anxiety, etc. Yes, there are risks taking them but for me, any risk is it because of how much better the quality of my life is. Definitely a life and marriage saver for me.
That being said, find a Dr who will regularly test your hormone levels and give you doses of only what you need.
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Post by mrgiedrnkr on Apr 15, 2023 22:48:01 GMT
I had a full hysterectomy in December and it was advised to me to go on them as I was too young (47) to be healthy without them. I left with an estrogen patch. About 5 weeks after that, I started having these huge, dark waves of depression that were unlike any other bouts of depression I have had. My mood swings were horrible. My libido sucked and my sleep was affected. I was also driving to my bff house, in her driveway and my brain couldn’t connect where I was or if I was in the right spot (fog)Thankfully, my surgeon stepped in really quickly. Now, I am on a cream that contains estrogen, progesterone and testosterone. I am doing much better physically but still have some lows mentally that I need to work on. Because I am on a custom compound cream, insurance doesn’t pay for it. It is $80 a month and he recommends that I stay on it indefinitely (like 15+ years). Our symptoms sound similar except I do get mini-hot flashes but they are an annoyance vs something I would treat. I say try them for a month or two. You can always go off if you have side effects. But, you might find that they are a lifesaver. I don’t say that lightly - tweaking my doses and getting me out of those dark waves probably did save my life.
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Post by katiejane on Apr 16, 2023 20:28:51 GMT
I decided to take hrt due to the negative impact the menopause was having and I felt like was losing myself.
I was not sleeping, experiencing mood swings, hot flushes, and couldn't remember words.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 16, 2023 20:32:29 GMT
I’ve been wondering about this as well. I’ve listened to some podcasts that talked about bio identical hormones but am unsure at what point they are recommended. I’m 48 and still get periods but I have really bad headaches the week before and am now having extreme fatigue and some other things that so far haven’t been explained.
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Post by Zee on Apr 16, 2023 20:39:22 GMT
I would love to but I can't due to history of estrogen+ breast cancer. I have pretty much learned to deal with all of it but relief would be wonderful.
My doctor gave me Lexapro 20mg (I took 10mg for many years to help with what is probably just job-related stress) as that's supposed to help, not sure that it does to be honest but I'm sticking with it.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Apr 17, 2023 0:03:27 GMT
I used a testosterone cream in my early-to-mid-forties for low libido, but it turned out to be the dying throes of what had become a shitty marriage, so I was probably just grasping at straws.
I didn't really go through menopause until much later. My gynecologist did an ultrasound in my mid 50s that still showed active follicles and egg production. WTF. I never had much in the way of mood swings or night sweats. I think I got lucky. I never took any other hormones. I'm 62 now.
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Post by smartypants71 on Apr 17, 2023 12:05:53 GMT
I would love to but I can't due to history of estrogen+ breast cancer. I have pretty much learned to deal with all of it but relief would be wonderful. My doctor gave me Lexapro 20mg (I took 10mg for many years to help with what is probably just job-related stress) as that's supposed to help, not sure that it does to be honest but I'm sticking with it. This is why I chose not to try hormone therapy. My doctor put me on a low dose of Paxil which helped tremendously with my lack of sleep and hot flashes. It also doesn't hurt that I'm in a slightly better mood all the time now LOL!
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Post by huskergal on Apr 17, 2023 16:16:29 GMT
I had hot flashes so bad and struggled to sleep. I am have been using cream based hormones for over 2 years. My symptoms have greatly reduced, and I don't have any bad side effects (knock on wood.) My PCP is a nurse practitioner. She had me do the saliva test to check my hormone levels.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Apr 17, 2023 16:39:28 GMT
Now they use bioidentical hormones, not synthetic like hormone replacement therapy was. I'm 45 and 2 years ago I wasn't peri menopause but I'm taking a saliva test this month to test for that and other things. I have hormonal migraines, I have tried some things to help my levels and has helped but am plateauing. We're talking about bioidentical hormones eventually. I've looked into them and am very willing to take them when needed. Yes she mentioned the bioidentical hormones, specifically a pellet. Biote is the site she told me to read. She also mentioned a topical or patch. I can’t remember if the are bioidentical or synthetic. I think I could handle the cream as it would be a small step. I’m pretty sure a patch or worse the inserted pellet would make me crazy just thinking that I can’t undo them or dealing with the patch stuck on me somewhere. The happy, magical pellets. They give me energy, make me less irritable, regulate temperature, and the sex drive is great. I don't need estrogen, so I can't comment on what that pellet would do. When it starts wearing off, I can tell. I think the price is reasonable at $325ish every 15-17 weeks. I started taking them at maybe 46, and my pellet appointments are my favorite.
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Post by hopechest on Apr 17, 2023 21:01:13 GMT
My estrogen was hanging in there OK, but I didn't have any progesterone. I have been on that for about a year and have felt considerably better!
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Post by laurasw on Apr 23, 2023 0:47:21 GMT
I get the pellets and they have been a game changer!
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Post by YooHoot on Sept 2, 2024 15:02:00 GMT
I found out last year I was in menopause. I had a few symptoms so I called to be tested (I had an IUD for 12+ years so no periods). I was in menopause and read about the increased risk of osteoporosis so I started estradiol and progesterone pills. Had more side effects than symptom relief. Did Premarin and the estradiol gel. Still nothing significant for symptom relief. Then I decided to visit with a hormone specialist. Starting the Biote pellets in 2 weeks!
I bumped this to see if anyone has been pleased with the pellets? Any side effects?
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Post by artbabe on Sept 2, 2024 15:11:18 GMT
Oops. Old thread. Carry on...
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Post by peasapie on Sept 2, 2024 16:00:30 GMT
I had a full hysterectomy in December and it was advised to me to go on them as I was too young (47) to be healthy without them. I left with an estrogen patch. About 5 weeks after that, I started having these huge, dark waves of depression that were unlike any other bouts of depression I have had. My mood swings were horrible. My libido sucked and my sleep was affected. I was also driving to my bff house, in her driveway and my brain couldn’t connect where I was or if I was in the right spot (fog)Thankfully, my surgeon stepped in really quickly. Now, I am on a cream that contains estrogen, progesterone and testosterone. I am doing much better physically but still have some lows mentally that I need to work on. Because I am on a custom compound cream, insurance doesn’t pay for it. It is $80 a month and he recommends that I stay on it indefinitely (like 15+ years). Our symptoms sound similar except I do get mini-hot flashes but they are an annoyance vs something I would treat. I say try them for a month or two. You can always go off if you have side effects. But, you might find that they are a lifesaver. I don’t say that lightly - tweaking my doses and getting me out of those dark waves probably did save my life. That's interesting. I've been on just the estrogen (estradiol) patch since a year after my complete hysterectomy with zero side effects. Prior to taking it I was getting awful hot flashes, joint pains and anxiety. My dr. says I can remain on the estradiol until my 70s at least, and I don't want to be without it. I thought progesterone was only used if you had a uterus, but clearly it is a case-by-case issue. I'm glad you are feeling much better and found a doctor to get the right combination for you.
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Post by malibou on Sept 2, 2024 16:41:14 GMT
It may be an old thread, but many of us still are in this time of our life.
I could not take any hrt, and my 15 year menopause was horrible. If you can have hrt, I would say give it a chance if your symptoms are sucking the life out of you.
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Post by YooHoot on Sept 2, 2024 18:05:21 GMT
*****I bumped an old thread******
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