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Post by tuva42 on May 26, 2023 16:22:11 GMT
I need a little advice here. I'm in a women's business networking group. It's a nice friendly group, everyone gets along. Recently, one of the women put on a Vision Board class for the group. This isn't her main business, just something she does on the side.
She had a really nice hand out for us with suggestions of how to start with our vision boards. My problem is that on the very first page she has in bold letters this quote "A wound is the place where the light enters" gives as it's source "A Wrinkle in Time" by Maya Angelo.
There are 3 problems here. Maya Angelou's name is misspelled. She did not write "A Wrinkle in Time," Madeleine L'Engle wrote it. And the quote is not from that book. The quote was used in the recent movie made from the book. The quote is an ancient one from a poet name Rumi.
So it's a group of pretty bad errors that a lot of people would recognize. Maybe not all the errors, but most people know Maya Angelou did not write science fiction. I feel bad for this woman because I know she's used this handout many times.
My question to you is - do I point this out to her? I know it will be embarrassing to her and we aren't close. But how much more embarrassing to keep using this?
What do you think? Do I say something?
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Post by Basket1lady on May 26, 2023 16:26:01 GMT
I’m also a bit horrified for her!
I’ve been known to correct things like that and just leave it for the person to find after a class/meeting. Since you can’t do that, I’d write her a nice email correcting it. Is she the sort who can take the corrections or will she hold a grudge forever? You can’t be the first person to notice this.
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Post by littlemama on May 26, 2023 16:28:16 GMT
That is a tough one. How well do you know her?
Im not sure there is a way for you to point out 3 errors in one sentence without her being upset. Maybe point out that Maya Angelou didnt write the book and see if she is receptive amd go from there. That seems like the error that most people would realize.
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Post by janeinbama on May 26, 2023 16:28:27 GMT
I would email her about it also. None of what she states is true and not just typos.
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Post by stingfan on May 26, 2023 16:34:25 GMT
I would probably email her and tell her that quote is really from Rumi - and send her a link to back that up. You don't have to address the misspelling or anything else that way...
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Post by busy on May 26, 2023 16:54:54 GMT
I'm all about email and digital communication but I would not address this via email or text, especially since you're not close and she doesn't know you well enough to assume your tone or intent via the written word.
Next time you see her in person, I'd pull her aside for a moment (not making a production about it, don't need to be in a different room, just not right next to other folks) and thank for her putting on the class and say something sincere that you got from it, and then say something like, I did notice one thing, you have a quote attributed to Maya Angelou and it's actually from Rumi. Not a big deal, but I noticed so others might as well, and I thought you'd want to know.
Simple and kind. Don't belabor the point or make it a bigger deal than it needs to be.
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Post by Bridget in MD on May 26, 2023 17:29:28 GMT
I was recently at Ohio State for a tour with DS, and he had a meet up with Air Force & Navy ROTC programs. While he was in the orientation, I was sitting in the waiting room and they had a really large map on the wall, showing all the bases. Well they had mislabeled Andrews AFB as in Virginia, not Maryland. So when one of the office people walked by, I just quietly let her know that I noticed her map was incorrect - Andrews was actually in MD not VA. She was like huh, well this is supposed to become an interactive map on a screen, but she'd let "them" know. I wasn't rude or loud about it, and maybe they don't care, but IMO it makes the organization (or in this case) look less professional. So I would let her know, somehow.
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Post by lucyg on May 26, 2023 18:13:16 GMT
I would probably email her and tell her that quote is really from Rumi - and send her a link to back that up. You don't have to address the misspelling or anything else that way... I agree with this, and also, I would email rather than talking to her in person. That gives her a chance to get her thoughts together before responding. |
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Post by Layce on May 26, 2023 19:56:31 GMT
Well. Some of you are more gracious than I'd be!
I can't understand why people don't fact-check themselves.
For example, did she mean Michael Angelo or Maya Angelou?
A discussion board is one thing, but a presentation hand-out? 🤦♀️ I'd be sending a friendly email saying "Hey I enjoyed your hand-out but I noticed a few things you might want to update", that type of thing. Then wait for her to get back.
And by the way there is no apostrophe in its.
Layce
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Post by librarylady on May 26, 2023 20:03:30 GMT
I would send her a written note, but not expect a reply. ..I might not even leave an address for a response.
I like the idea of suggesting "update" your handout.
I would not want to do business with someone who has such glaring errors on the presentation handout.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on May 26, 2023 20:38:41 GMT
I would email her, and say :
Dear Name Here.
There is a minor mistake and typo on your memo, flyer, etc...
If it were me, I'd want to know, so I thought I'd send you a quick email to bring it to your attention.
xxxx was spelled incorrectly.
The quote xxxx was written by xxxx.
Looking forward to seeing you at the next meeting.
Have a nice day!
Best regards, xxxx
Presentation and conveyance is everything. Bringing a faux pas to someone's attention needs to be handle delicately, so as to not cause hard feelings.
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Post by peabay on May 26, 2023 20:44:52 GMT
If you did this, how would you want to hear it?
Then do it that way. That's pretty much how I live my life.
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Post by don on May 26, 2023 20:46:42 GMT
OK, I have heard or read "A wound is the place where the light enters you", I just don't remember where or why.
A Wrinkle A Time was a movie, I never watched it.
I know Maya Angelou was a famous poet and author. "If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude." and "Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better." I'm still working on the "Do the best you can ..." part.
So I think she was probably talking to someone like me. I never heard of Rumi or Madeleine L'Engle. I would have never put it all together. I would have just said, hmmm.
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Post by PaperAngel on May 26, 2023 22:04:33 GMT
Note the quote is also incorrect! The ancient Persian poet named Rumi authored, "The wound is the place where the light enters you." It is a line in the 2018 movie, A Wrinkle in Time, which is based on the book of the same name written by Madeline L'Engle, not Maya Angelou. I would politely email her about the handout errors.
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Post by Gem Girl on May 26, 2023 22:24:28 GMT
Well. Some of you are more gracious than I'd be! I can't understand why people don't fact-check themselves. For example, did she mean Michael Angelo or Maya Angelou? A discussion board is one thing, but a presentation hand-out? 🤦♀️ I'd be sending a friendly email saying "Hey I enjoyed your hand-out but I noticed a few things you might want to update", that type of thing. Then wait for her to get back. And by the way there is no apostrophe in its. Layce I'll gently point out that there is an apostrophe in the contraction for "it is," which was how it was used in the first instance. There is not one in the possessive that indicates something belonging to "it," as seen in the second time it appears in the original post. Just another reason I have sympathy for those learning English as a second language. |
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Post by peasapie on May 26, 2023 23:03:57 GMT
What do you think she will do with this information once you have corrected her? Does she then need to send out a mea culpa to everyone who attended, and if she did, would that then call attention to her error in a more striking way?
Personally, I would let it go, as I don't see it as being helpful in this particular case.
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Post by moodyblue on May 26, 2023 23:16:15 GMT
What do you think she will do with this information once you have corrected her? Does she then need to send out a mea culpa to everyone who attended, and if she did, would that then call attention to her error in a more striking way? Personally, I would let it go, as I don't see it as being helpful in this particular case. As I read and understood it, this may be a handout she has used/will continue to use for other groups. In that case, I’d think it should be corrected for future use. |
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Post by chaosisapony on May 27, 2023 1:10:46 GMT
I would probably email her and tell her that quote is really from Rumi - and send her a link to back that up. You don't have to address the misspelling or anything else that way... That's probably how I would handle this. A quick email saying "Hey so and so, I'm really enjoying your vision board class! I know you use this handout a lot so I just thought I would mention that the quote on the cover is actually from Rumi :insert link: Thanks for all the hard work you've put into this class!" If I received an email phrased like that I wouldn't be horrified or offended. If I had someone tell me all three errors in a row I'd be pretty embarrassed and likely feel that the person was rude. |
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Post by elaine on May 27, 2023 1:39:34 GMT
I was recently at Ohio State for a tour with DS, and he had a meet up with Air Force & Navy ROTC programs. While he was in the orientation, I was sitting in the waiting room and they had a really large map on the wall, showing all the bases. Well they had mislabeled Andrews AFB as in Virginia, not Maryland. So when one of the office people walked by, I just quietly let her know that I noticed her map was incorrect - Andrews was actually in MD not VA. She was like huh, well this is supposed to become an interactive map on a screen, but she'd let "them" know. I wasn't rude or loud about it, and maybe they don't care, but IMO it makes the organization (or in this case) look less professional. So I would let her know, somehow. Well, to be exact, it isn’t Andrews AFB, it is Joint Base Andrews and has been since 2010. 😘 Not just AF housed there anymore. But yes, it is in MD, not VA. Off exit 9 when coming from NoVA. |
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Post by Bridget in MD on May 29, 2023 14:24:18 GMT
I was recently at Ohio State for a tour with DS, and he had a meet up with Air Force & Navy ROTC programs. While he was in the orientation, I was sitting in the waiting room and they had a really large map on the wall, showing all the bases. Well they had mislabeled Andrews AFB as in Virginia, not Maryland. So when one of the office people walked by, I just quietly let her know that I noticed her map was incorrect - Andrews was actually in MD not VA. She was like huh, well this is supposed to become an interactive map on a screen, but she'd let "them" know. I wasn't rude or loud about it, and maybe they don't care, but IMO it makes the organization (or in this case) look less professional. So I would let her know, somehow. Well, to be exact, it isn’t Andrews AFB, it is Joint Base Andrews and has been since 2010. 😘 Not just AF housed there anymore. But yes, it is in MD, not VA. Off exit 9 when coming from NoVA. LOL I know, but it'll always be Andrews AFB to me! My (Navy) dad drilled there when I was a kid... |
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Post by elaine on May 29, 2023 14:41:11 GMT
Well, to be exact, it isn’t Andrews AFB, it is Joint Base Andrews and has been since 2010. 😘 Not just AF housed there anymore. But yes, it is in MD, not VA. Off exit 9 when coming from NoVA. LOL I know, but it'll always be Andrews AFB to me! My (Navy) dad drilled there when I was a kid... ❤️❤️❤️ |
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Post by scrapmaven on May 29, 2023 16:08:45 GMT
Rumi has many valuable quotes. My favorite one and one that I need to learn to live by, rather than be so judgemental is, "somewhere between right and wrong is a field. I'll meet you there".
At any rate, that, to me is a glaring mistake and she would lose a lot of credibility w/me. I'd be hesitant to take anything seriously that she presented. I would only email her if I knew her well enough. Otherwise, I am a bit embarrassed to say that I would neither email her, nor take her courses ever, again.
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Post by Merge on May 29, 2023 16:11:19 GMT
Well. Some of you are more gracious than I'd be! I can't understand why people don't fact-check themselves. For example, did she mean Michael Angelo or Maya Angelou? A discussion board is one thing, but a presentation hand-out? 🤦♀️ I'd be sending a friendly email saying "Hey I enjoyed your hand-out but I noticed a few things you might want to update", that type of thing. Then wait for her to get back. And by the way there is no apostrophe in its. Layce In the spirit of the thread, it's Michelangelo. All one word. His full name was Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni.  |
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Post by auntkelly on May 29, 2023 16:25:54 GMT
I probably wouldn’t correct her since you are not close and she apparently didn’t ask for feedback.
Most people who give these types of presentations hand out a comment sheet requesting feedback at the end. If she didn’t hand out a comment sheet, or ask for input, I would assume that she is not open to constructive criticism. I would also assume that someone who makes that many egregious mistakes in their presentation is not going to take kindly to criticism, even when it is delivered gently with the best of intentions.
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Post by seaexplore on May 29, 2023 17:43:39 GMT
I would 100% want to know (and be horrified!) so I could quickly fix it.
Text/email/message and just let her know in a matter of fact way. Don’t beat around the bush. Keep emotion out of it.
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Post by Layce on May 29, 2023 17:54:48 GMT
You people don’t get me.
lol
Layce 😘
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