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Post by cadoodlebug on May 27, 2023 1:50:43 GMT
I searched for a thread but couldn't find one.
We watched the finale last night. I loved this show although the 4th season wasn't my favorite.
Things that I loved about the finale:
Although heartbreaking knowing what we know, the scene with Lenny Bruce.
Midge finally getting on the Gordon Ford show.
Her family and Joel being there to see her perform.
Her actually getting to do her comedy on the show. I'm guessing Gordon fired her because he knew she was headed to the big time and really wasn't a writer.
The other writers bowing and curtseying to her after her performance.
Midge and Susie watching Jeopardy together though they were thousands of miles apart. I wish she and Joel had gotten back together.
Things that were meh to me:
The whole thing, this episode and last episode with, with Zelda and her boyfriend/husband.
The thing with Rose and Abe trying to get to the theater. I know I'm one of the few who isn't totally in love with Tony Shalhoub. I thought some of his storylines were terrible and took time away from what we wanted to see: more comic routines by Midge.
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Post by finaledition on May 27, 2023 3:59:19 GMT
Oops
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Post by finaledition on May 27, 2023 3:59:19 GMT
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Post by finaledition on May 27, 2023 3:59:19 GMT
We just finished. Thought it was terrific, but if you wanted to see how every storyline played out I can see how some my be slightly disappointed. But I’ll give it high marks for a series finale. I loved the tie in by Gordon Ford to the title show. Definitely a full circle moment. I see the episode is rated 9.6 right now on IMDb.
My sister went to a theater last night as they were showing it in select locations. That would have a been a fun way to enjoy it.
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Post by finaledition on May 27, 2023 4:39:57 GMT
I was just reading an article about the finale and thought this quote was interesting. I remember when the show started and so people on that thread commented about the clothing.
“Throughout the series run, Midge had 320 costume changes. The costume department also built over 800 hats, shopped from over 2,270 vintage shops, and fit 38,000 background actors. “
Her amazing wardrobe was definitely consistent throughout the show.
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Post by Rhondito on May 27, 2023 12:54:01 GMT
This was my least favorite season of all. The charm was gone for me. Things that were meh to me: The whole thing, this episode and last episode with, with Zelda and her boyfriend/husband. The thing with Rose and Abe trying to get to the theater. I know I'm one of the few who isn't totally in love with Tony Shalhoub. I thought some of his storylines were terrible and took time away from what we wanted to see: more comic routines by Midge. I echo this. There was a lot of background noise that took time away from Midge, and also wasn't very entertaining (at least to me.) I loved when Midge grabbed the mic and took a leap of faith, and that the audience loved it made me tear up. It left me wanting more - I would've like to have seen the next day at Susie's office with the phone ringing off the hook with people wanting to book Midge. But I guess it had to end somewhere.
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Post by huskergal on May 27, 2023 15:04:31 GMT
The cinematography is stunning and Midge's wardrobe is flawless. I loved watching just to see her clothes.
I loved that she took the leap of faith. I think Gordon fired her because she did the stand up 'cause he is still an ass. He invited her to the couch because he can take credit for launching her.
I liked Susie's reveal about her relationship with Hedy. We finally see a bit of her personal side.
The show was always about their relationship. I am glad they ended with that.
It was nice to have the closure with Lenny Bruce.
I liked this season because we find out what happens in the future as well as how she got there.
I would like to think that Joel and Midge got back together. Maybe he died and that is why she is alone.
Midge's makeup at the end was terrible. The worst aging I have seen. Distracting.
I love Abe.
The writers acknowledging Midge was fantastic.
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 27, 2023 17:43:57 GMT
Midge's makeup at the end was terrible. The worst aging I have seen. Distracting. I agree with this! I also forgot to mention how much I loved her clothes. Well, all the women's clothes except Susie's! Reminded me so much of my mom and her friends clothes back in the day.
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Post by bethany102399 on May 27, 2023 18:25:26 GMT
I watch the show with my daughter, so we have lots of conversations around social themes of the show. Gordon's relationship with his wife and how they're friends even though they're not in a traditional marriage. How they can give each other legitimacy by being married. And of course the costumes, the hats alone are worth the time. I loved how the ended the Lenny Bruce situation, I was really upset that they hadn't dealt with it and was hoping they would address it. It felt like closure that she would keep tabs on him and try to help. My daughter went to LA this spring on a school trip and one of their stops was the Hollywood walk of fame. She sent me a photo of what she thought was Lenny Bruce's "star". Turns out it was Bruce Lee We had a conversation about who Bruce Lee was and she was crying she was laughing so hard. We were cheering for Midge as she took the mike, and when Gordon invited her to the couch, I explained the Jonny Carson connection to her (my daughter). My favorite scene though is Suzie on the couch with the gold shoes, the mumu and the birds behind her. "I named her whore" I laughed so hard at that I had to pause the show. I was not a fan of the flashbacks at the beginning, but by the end I loved how it set up that we knew she would go on to be super successful. That she had the rift with Suzie but eventually healed it, and what happened with her kids. I will definitely miss it.
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Post by finaledition on May 27, 2023 18:27:56 GMT
My sister and I are hoping they do some kind of traveling exhibit with the wardrobe from the show. How fun would that be!
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 27, 2023 23:32:05 GMT
I just finished watching as I didn’t want to start until all the episodes were up. I really enjoyed it and will miss it. I too loved the clothes. They were amazing.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2023 23:49:27 GMT
We haven't watched all of the seasons (we're in season 2) yet but today I realized that Lenny Bruce was a real person. I told DH this and he was like, you didn't know that?! Well no, I thought the references to well known people of the time period were made because they weren't going to have them actually be a part of the show and everyone else were fictional. Oops.
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Post by auntkelly on May 28, 2023 4:28:20 GMT
I didn’t really care for this season overall, but I thought the finale was very clever. I thought they wrapped up the storylines really well without being overly sentimental or dramatic.
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Post by littlemama on May 28, 2023 12:23:04 GMT
I havent paid attention to the last couple of seasons, I think beginning after she got fired for outing Shy Baldwin. Some of it was just ridiculous and I have disliked Susie most of the show. This season was more interesting, although the flashbacks and forwards were somewhat hard to keep straight.
The first season was by far the best.
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Post by Marina on May 29, 2023 22:32:51 GMT
I avoided this thread until we watched it. My favorite seasons were the first two. Season 4 was not one I really enjoyed. I did like how she took over on the Gordon Ford show and was brought over to the chairs (that was always a big thing on the old Johnny Carson show). And that her mother finally came on board.
I'm glad they didn't do the ultimate ending for Lenny Bruce. I loved his character and what they did show was sad enough.
I have to say I loved the doctor from season 2. I always felt like she never gave him a chance to embrace all of her.
And yes her costumes were fabulous.
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Post by disneypal on May 30, 2023 14:38:33 GMT
The cinematography is stunning and Midge's wardrobe is flawless. I loved watching just to see her clothes. I loved that she took the leap of faith. I think Gordon fired her because she did the stand up 'cause he is still an ass. He invited her to the couch because he can take credit for launching her. I liked Susie's reveal about her relationship with Hedy. We finally see a bit of her personal side. The show was always about their relationship. I am glad they ended with that. It was nice to have the closure with Lenny Bruce. I liked this season because we find out what happens in the future as well as how she got there. I would like to think that Joel and Midge got back together. Maybe he died and that is why she is alone. Midge's makeup at the end was terrible. The worst aging I have seen. Distracting. I love Abe. The writers acknowledging Midge was fantastic. Totally agree with all of this. I liked that we got to see a little bit of Susie's personal life/past. I also got the feeling that she and Joel had gotten back together but that he had died, which is why she fondly looked at his photo at the end. I really liked glimpses into the future to see what happened to everyone and to Midge's children. I thought they handled Lenny Bruce well, you could see his decline and downfall coming.
The costumes were wonderful throughout the entire series but I especially loved this last season's clothing.
I think Gordon Ford was genuine after Midge's performance. He as really impressed, thought she was funny and knew that she was going to be a smash as a comic so fired her as a writer because he knew she was going on to bigger/better things. I loved that her whole family, including Joel was there to see it.
I'm going to miss the series but at the same time, felt like it was time to wrap it up.
Loved the scene of Midge & Susie watching "Jeopardy" together (over the phone) and apparently Susie still loving birds
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Post by bethany102399 on May 30, 2023 14:46:28 GMT
I'm glad they didn't do the ultimate ending for Lenny Bruce. I loved his character and what they did show was sad enough. Yes, we were both cringing at the set Lenny was doing, but I looked at my daughter and said he was deep into heroin at this point. This is what happens. I found it totally legit that Midge and Susie would try to help him and that he said no. So much more powerful than just Midge reading about his death in the paper. What a sad, but necessary "beat" to have in the finale.
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Post by oh yvonne on May 30, 2023 15:28:02 GMT
I loved that ending, with a good laugh and Suzie and Midge's friendship back on track watching Jeopardy long distance together. I teared up and thought, bravo Amy Sherman Palladino. I truly hope that she has one more show in her, she's truly one of a kind. No one writes characters that are so witty and funny and loveable as she does. No one.
And just like Gilmore Girls ending, this last season wasn't perfect, but it ended perfectly. (for me at least).
Did I miss something or did we ever find out what put Joel in prison? Was it because he helped Suzie get the money back? Some parts of the plot are already getting fuzzy in my memory. I too like to think he gets back together with Midge in later years, but I didn't get the impression when she spoke of her love life she winded up ever being happy married.
I'm another who would love an exhibit of the costumes from this show, I mean, wow she was beautifully dressed from beginning to end!
I'll probably re-watch the series at some point. My absolute favorite episodes are the ones in the Catskills. Absolutely comical and charming.
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Post by cadoodlebug on May 30, 2023 15:59:48 GMT
Did I miss something or did we ever find out what put Joel in prison? To save Midge, he put himself in with the mob.
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Post by oh yvonne on May 30, 2023 17:20:05 GMT
Did I miss something or did we ever find out what put Joel in prison? To save Midge, he put himself in with the mob. okay that's right. I try to multi task sometimes while I watch and inevitably I miss something, lol. Thank you!
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 30, 2023 18:08:41 GMT
To save Midge, he put himself in with the mob. okay that's right. I try to multi task sometimes while I watch and inevitably I miss something, lol. Thank you! You’re not the only one. I forgot or missed it to.
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Post by lisae on Jun 2, 2023 1:33:52 GMT
We just finished the finale. We are going to miss this show. I compliment them on many things - the creativity, the humor, and of course the clothes. Most of all, it was going forward in time so there will be no reboot. Reboots or reunion shows are almost always terrible. There was one thing I didn't understand. In the early 1970's Midge is paying for Rose's building so she can continue to do her matchmaking 'for the time she has left.' But in an earlier episode we saw Rose and Abe in Hawaii for what was supposed to be Midge's wedding to Philip Roth. It was the 80's. It sounded like Rose was going to die but she lived on for several years? Anyway, I enjoyed all of it. I think an exhibit of her clothes, finaledition would be a hit. The Biltmore Estate hosted an exhibit of clothes from Downton Abbey a few years ago.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jun 2, 2023 1:38:36 GMT
In the early 1970's Midge is paying for Rose's building so she can continue to do her matchmaking 'for the time she has left.' I think we have ascertained that it was a loose end that was never explained or addressed again.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jun 2, 2023 2:43:20 GMT
Like so many shows that start out red hot, this one just slowly lost all its luster. I was disappointed with the last couple of seasons.
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Post by disneypal on Jun 2, 2023 13:18:51 GMT
In the early 1970's Midge is paying for Rose's building so she can continue to do her matchmaking 'for the time she has left.' I think we have ascertained that it was a loose end that was never explained or addressed again. Yes, they didn't really address that again, but I took it to mean that her mom was ill and may not have much longer to live and Midge was doing what she could to keep her mom happy.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 2, 2023 20:49:11 GMT
Like so many shows that start out red hot, this one just slowly lost all its luster. I was disappointed with the last couple of seasons. There are lots of shows that are like this. Jumping the Shark seems to happen after season 2 or 3 for way too many shows
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Post by peano on Jun 4, 2023 13:45:14 GMT
Finally watched the finale. I think I was delaying the inevitable.
Midge's Bergdorf's dress on her Gordon Ford show performance—perfection. I want it!
I wonder if everyone who’s disappointed in the show/thinks it jumped the shark just wanted the fluffier initial episodes full of clothes and the glamorous lives of Upper West siders in the late 50s.
I thought this show was always about bigger ideas like women claiming their power outside their relationships with men/having to find clever ways of maneuvering around them, racial and gay acceptance and justice.
Even if Joel hadn’t gone to prison, Midge never would have remarried him. Her priority was always her career after she started stand-up. A later marriage would have diverted energy away from that and she grew enough power for herself, she didn’t need a man in the traditional sense.
I loved her scene with Lenny in the Chinese restaurant. Loved their flirtiness. Also, Luke Kirby is hot.
Loved how they showed stills of all the sets from the series in the final credits—the camp in the Borscht Belt, the restaurant Susie and Midge always met at, etc.
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