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Post by monklady123 on Jun 5, 2023 15:11:57 GMT
Did you all hear about this? Fighter jets went after an unresponsive Cessna that flew over DC.  They were instructed to catch up to the Cessna so they were given permission to take off and fly and supersonic speed, which caused an amazing sonic boom here! omg, I was sure something had exploded somewhere. My house sort of "rumbled"...it's hard to describe...it wasn't like say a shaking from an earthquake...it was like a deep vibration. Very weird, and scary since we had no idea what it was. After the first *boom* there was continued rumbling from a distance which was why we all thought it was an explosion. Living as close to the Pentagon as we do we all remember 9-11 like it was yesterday. The jets chased the plane, sent out flairs to try to attract the attention of the pilot, and in the end the Cessna crashed in the mountains SW of where I live. I think they're still investigating but are thinking there was some kind of catastrophic event that caused the pilot to lose consciousness. I only hope that the passengers were also unconscious before they crashed so they could be spared the terror of knowing what was going on. Apparently the plane flew toward NY and then turned around and headed back toward DC. You can imagine what was going through everyone's heads at the radar place (wherever they track these things)...Just like on 9-11. wow. Anyway...it was scary for a few minutes. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 5, 2023 15:24:57 GMT
Yes. Widely covered here.
My question is, how long was it up there flying, before the jets were dispatched. Also what was their goal had it not crashed it the mountains? Injuries on the ground?
I had not yet heard there were passengers.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jun 5, 2023 15:27:18 GMT
I read about this today. Certainly scary as everyone's mind automatically goes to 9-11. I think I read they're trying to determine if it was a pressurization issue (like the Payne Stewart crash). I think I read that the president company that leases the plane, his daughter, granddaughter and nanny were aboard. So sad, I always hope that they had no idea what was happening vs. being terrified.
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Post by katlady on Jun 5, 2023 15:32:30 GMT
So sad for the family!
I wonder what made the plane make a u-turn. If it was a pressurization issue, and the pilot lost consciousness, I would think the plane would just keep flying in a straight line. Maybe the pilot turned to land at a nearby airport before losing consciousness.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 5, 2023 15:38:53 GMT
A tragic story. And no doubt it was frightening to those who heard the boom.
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Post by monklady123 on Jun 5, 2023 15:53:23 GMT
Yes. Widely covered here. My question is, how long was it up there flying, before the jets were dispatched. Also what was their goal had it not crashed it the mountains? Injuries on the ground? I had not yet heard there were passengers. It was on its regular flight path from Tennessee to New York which means it had been flying for however long that took, and there would have been nothing to attract anyone's attention if it had stayed on that flight path. At least not until it arrived for a regular landing. But when it entered the restricted air space around DC, and then when the pilot didn't respond to radio calls, that's when the jets were ordered up. And I don't think they know why/how it turned around when it got to New York. That part is odd, and that's especially why the military was alarmed... it turned around, then wouldn't respond to calls. Sounds just like what a terrorist would do if they were trying to attack DC. That's what caused the military jets to intercept. |
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jun 5, 2023 15:54:23 GMT
I didnt hear the boom, but I live near the Dalgreen base where we can frequently hear very large booms when they do their testing. WHen I saw this on the news last night, I remember thinking, I guess these people don't hear the Dalghren tests - I didn't realize the plane was part of that story!
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Post by monklady123 on Jun 5, 2023 15:56:42 GMT
I didnt hear the boom, but I live near the Dalgreen base where we can frequently hear very large booms when they do their testing. WHen I saw this on the news last night, I remember thinking, I guess these people don't hear the Dalghren tests - I didn't realize the plane was part of that story! Yes, I've never heard anything from Dalghren... too far. Our base noises come from Fort Myer, and those are only guns, cannon type sounds, and taps and reveille. lol. Definitely nothing as loud as that sonic boom was. |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 5, 2023 16:06:09 GMT
We were following this last night. I had not yet heard there were passengers. There were 4 passengers, none survived. The plane was a Cessna Citation, owned by Encore Motors of Melbourne, FL. The daughter and granddaughter (2 yrs) of the company president were killed. Also killed were the nanny and the pilot. I wonder what made the plane make a u-turn. Auto-pilot. Reading the comments on Flight Aware last night it was stated the flight plan showed the last waypoint was CCC (Calverton Exec. Airport). Once the plan made that turn, it just kept going. It will be weeks/months before the FAA has any definitive answers. |
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Post by rymeswithpurple on Jun 5, 2023 16:22:10 GMT
There were definitely a lot of "what was that noise?!" posts online since I'm also in the northern VA area, but we didn't hear a thing where we are. It's crazy.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 5, 2023 17:06:04 GMT
Confirmed by the owner of the company.
The plane that crashed was registered to Encore Motors of Melbourne Inc, which is based in Florida. John Rumpel, who runs the company, told The New York Times that his daughter, 2-year-old granddaughter, her nanny and the pilot were aboard the plane. They were returning to their home in East Hampton, on Long Island, after visiting his house in North Carolina, he said.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 5, 2023 18:02:18 GMT
NPR reported that the fighter jets could see the pilot slumped over. Sounds like a pressurization issue. How terrible for the families!
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Post by peasquared on Jun 5, 2023 20:13:49 GMT
I lived in Iowa when the plane crashed there. There was sonic boom then. It's something I will never forget, but so hard to explain. As monklady123 said, I hope the passengers were unconscious too. So heartbreaking. |
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Post by Tearisci on Jun 5, 2023 20:15:29 GMT
My DS lives in DC so I asked him about this this morning. I was surprised I hadn't heard from him about it but he was on Metro at the time and didn't hear the boom.
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Post by peabay on Jun 5, 2023 20:17:36 GMT
I didnt hear the boom, but I live near the Dalgreen base where we can frequently hear very large booms when they do their testing. WHen I saw this on the news last night, I remember thinking, I guess these people don't hear the Dalghren tests - I didn't realize the plane was part of that story! I grew up in the flight path of the SST and every time it took off, at 10:10 am we got a sonic boom. It was crazy! (and I remember it was 10:10 because during the summer it woke me up!) |
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Post by iowgirl on Jun 6, 2023 13:48:46 GMT
I lived in Iowa when the plane crashed there. There was sonic boom then. It's something I will never forget, but so hard to explain. What/where plane crash was that? Sonic Booms where somewhat a normal part of our life out here in Western Iowa. We were directly under the flight path of Iowa Air Guard when they did practice maneuvers. That wing has since been changed to a Drone unit, but occasionally a wing out of Sioux City does some maneuvers over us. A Sonic Boom is more rare now, but it always gets my attention. My windows rattle and the livestock spooks a bit. Many times it was a BOOM-BOOM - with two booms. You could see them dog fighting, if it was a clear day (or even better at night!) They would fire tracers and you could see the smoke from them during the day, or fire at night. Best was when they lit afterburners at night! But in the DC area, I could see how it would be quite alarming. So sad for the pilot and passengers. Of course there are those that are sure it is a conspiracy of some sorts, because the plane owner is a big Trump supporter. Just tragic. The woman wasn't actually their daughter, but more of an adult "adopted" daughter (which is absolutely family!) |
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Post by peasquared on Jun 6, 2023 14:27:42 GMT
I lived in Iowa when the plane crashed there. There was sonic boom then. It's something I will never forget, but so hard to explain. What/where plane crash was that? Sonic Booms where somewhat a normal part of our life out here in Western Iowa. We were directly under the flight path of Iowa Air Guard when they did practice maneuvers. That wing has since been changed to a Drone unit, but occasionally a wing out of Sioux City does some maneuvers over us. A Sonic Boom is more rare now, but it always gets my attention. My windows rattle and the livestock spooks a bit. Many times it was a BOOM-BOOM - with two booms. You could see them dog fighting, if it was a clear day (or even better at night!) They would fire tracers and you could see the smoke from them during the day, or fire at night. Best was when they lit afterburners at night! But in the DC area, I could see how it would be quite alarming. So sad for the pilot and passengers. Of course there are those that are sure it is a conspiracy of some sorts, because the plane owner is a big Trump supporter. Just tragic. The woman wasn't actually their daughter, but more of an adult "adopted" daughter (which is absolutely family!) It was United flight 232 in July of 89 right near the Sioux City airport. Sounds like you are from my old "neck of the woods". :-) |
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Post by katlady on Jun 6, 2023 15:05:45 GMT
I read that the U-turn baffles experts. They think maybe the pilot tried to correct something before losing consciousness.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jun 6, 2023 15:29:54 GMT
I read that the U-turn baffles experts. They think maybe the pilot tried to correct something before losing consciousness. I'm still going with auto pilot, but who knows if we'll ever know for sure. It has also been disclosed hat air traffic controllers lost contact with the plane during ascent. Plane lost control with air traffic controllers |
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Post by peppermintpatty on Jun 6, 2023 16:11:12 GMT
My dh was actually outside installing pavers for a planting bed so he was pounding them when it happened. I thought it was a really loud "pound" but later found out what it was. There was a woman and a child on the plane. They are speculating hypoxia for all of the people on the plane. If that is the case, they would all have been unconscious when the plane crashed.
Biden was at Joint Base Andrews so the air space was really restricted which is why they went after the plane so quickly. They try not to go supersonic over residential areas for this very reason.
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Post by birukitty on Jun 9, 2023 21:55:49 GMT
I'm late responding but I certainly heard it here in Annapolis, MD. I was reading when I heard a sudden loud Boom and the house actually shook a bit. Not like an earthquake (I've been in 3 of those), but just a quick, sharp shake and it was over. Like the house rocked on it's foundation. DH works from home and we both wondered what the heck it was. Googled and that's when we found out about the plane-this was about 3 hours later.
We are used to the noises the Blue Angels make every year when they fly over the house (just happened a week ago) but this was so much louder!
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jun 10, 2023 1:54:28 GMT
What/where plane crash was that? Sonic Booms where somewhat a normal part of our life out here in Western Iowa. We were directly under the flight path of Iowa Air Guard when they did practice maneuvers. That wing has since been changed to a Drone unit, but occasionally a wing out of Sioux City does some maneuvers over us. A Sonic Boom is more rare now, but it always gets my attention. My windows rattle and the livestock spooks a bit. Many times it was a BOOM-BOOM - with two booms. You could see them dog fighting, if it was a clear day (or even better at night!) They would fire tracers and you could see the smoke from them during the day, or fire at night. Best was when they lit afterburners at night! But in the DC area, I could see how it would be quite alarming. So sad for the pilot and passengers. Of course there are those that are sure it is a conspiracy of some sorts, because the plane owner is a big Trump supporter. Just tragic. The woman wasn't actually their daughter, but more of an adult "adopted" daughter (which is absolutely family!) It was United flight 232 in July of 89 right near the Sioux City airport. Sounds like you are from my old "neck of the woods". :-) I remember that. I was flying into Sioux City for a wedding a few weeks later. I grew up going there almost every summer. No one ever knew where I was going, but unfortunately that changed. |
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They were instructed to catch up to the Cessna so they were given permission to take off and fly and supersonic speed, which caused an amazing sonic boom here! omg, I was sure something had exploded somewhere. My house sort of "rumbled"...it's hard to describe...it wasn't like say a shaking from an earthquake...it was like a deep vibration. Very weird, and scary since we had no idea what it was. After the first *boom* there was continued rumbling from a distance which was why we all thought it was an explosion. Living as close to the Pentagon as we do we all remember 9-11 like it was yesterday. 
