|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 10, 2023 2:11:25 GMT
That’s trump to a “t”.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 10, 2023 4:07:02 GMT
These guys on the right have gone absolutely bonkers.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 10, 2023 4:09:27 GMT
Another one not playing with a full deck.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 10, 2023 5:09:34 GMT
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 10, 2023 6:18:18 GMT
She’s right. There are some thinking that trump is urging his supporters to show at the courthouse on Tuesday.
The entire tweet..
“Watch what Republicans are doing. They aren’t saying trump didn’t do it. They’re not saying he was right to do it. They’re not defending his actions in any way. They’re attacking Biden. Attacking Garland. Attacking the WIFE of Jack Smith. Making ridiculous comparisons to Nixon & the Clintons. They’re gaslighting. They’re obfuscating. And they’re distracting. Because they simply cannot defend the indefensible.”
|
|
|
Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 10, 2023 11:22:39 GMT
|
|
|
Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 10, 2023 11:36:47 GMT
Are they concerned? Nah....
|
|
lizacreates
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,856
Aug 29, 2015 2:39:19 GMT
|
Post by lizacreates on Jun 10, 2023 15:59:47 GMT
Mr Smith Goes to Washington and does his job.
That speaking indictment is superb. It is so well done that even Trump apologists are struggling to poke holes in it. Every instance of lawbreaking in which Trump either directed and/or participated is clearly narrated with supporting evidence. Even the intent of the defendant, which is often difficult to establish, is laid out in detail. It proves this wasn’t just an honest mistake but a deliberate act on Trump’s part to foil gov’t attempts to retrieve the documents, knowing full well it was unlawful.
This is another manifestation of the criminal mindset Trump has exhibited all his adult life—in defrauding banks, insurance companies, condo buyers, contractors, tax bodies, etc; cooking company books; sexual assault; racketeering; and later on conspiring to overturn an election and incite an insurrection.
Just some of the agencies Trump compromised by his actions—CIA, Dept of Defense, Nat’l Security Agency, Nat’l Geospatial Intelligence Agency, Nat’l Reconnaissance Ofc, Dept of Energy, Dept of State & Bureau of Intelligence & Research. All he had to do when found out was return it all and just keep his personal mementos, newspaper clippings and tat. That’s it. How simple is that? Especially as he was given over a year to do it.
As always, Trump is his own worst enemy. He’s been a criminal for so long that committing crimes is baked into his whole being.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 10, 2023 17:30:40 GMT
Apparently he is calling for some sort of rally on Tuesday.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 10, 2023 19:30:34 GMT
And then there is this guy. From his column in the Washington Post. Gift article link“But let’s also be clear about this: Bringing charges related to the possession of classified documents against a current or former president for anything short of colluding with our enemies or selling them on the black market is unnecessary, unwise and destructive to democracy. It will exacerbate our political polarization and dominate the daily news cycle much like the Russian collusion hysteria of Trump’s first two years in office. No one can be looking forward to that.” & ”No one is above the law, and it is not so difficult to imagine the kind of grave crime that would leave an administration with no choice but to prosecute a president’s chief political rival. That is just not the case here. Yes, these charges are defensible from a strict interpretation of code, but prosecutors always have discretion to consider the broader context, and here the Justice Department has failed the highest-stakes test of prosecutorial discretion one can imagine. As president, Trump had already seen all the classified documents in question. He apparently retained them not for nefarious purposes, Me: Do you know for a fact that he didn’t or wouldn’t use them for “nefarious” purposes?but under a misguided sense of entitlement. He was sloppy and careless with them — hardly unprecedented at the highest levels of government. Whether Trump alluded to them in conversation or even briefly showed a document to visitors, felony indictments appear personally and politically vindictive.” 🤦🏻♀️
I will never understand this idea that because someone was or is a president they get special treatment even when they break the law.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 10, 2023 19:44:04 GMT
Here is another case of trump describing himself. The man really is a coward.
|
|
|
Post by Gem Girl on Jun 10, 2023 20:04:44 GMT
And yet she's stupid enough that she will be surprised when her door is broken down at 0-dark-thirty in the morning, because other scofflaws don't get the "invitation to appear" treatment that TFG is being given.
|
|
|
Post by Gem Girl on Jun 10, 2023 20:27:41 GMT
Apparently he is calling for some sort of rally on Tuesday. It never even occurs to him that the FBI will likely be using facial recognition software & it will help them track down some of the sought Jan 6 scum still out in the wild. Or, as usual, he just doesn't care what happens to anybody but himself.
|
|
|
Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 10, 2023 20:35:35 GMT
And we are called the criminals..
|
|
|
Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 10, 2023 20:38:00 GMT
Apparently he is calling for some sort of rally on Tuesday. They have been called to arms by US Rep Chip Roy. They are out for blood and have threatened killing...
|
|
|
Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 11, 2023 4:37:42 GMT
The calls for retribution and violence are escalating . From Kari Lake to congressmen throughout the United States, violent rhetoric following Donald Trump's federal indictment has reportedly been steady and is now officially raising red flags with experts. The violent messages from Trump's supporters are not exactly new, as they have arisen before, including after the FBI raided the former president's property at Mar-a-Lago. But they do appear to be escalating, according to a report by Michael S. Schmidt, Alan Feuer, Maggie Haberman, and Adam Goldman of the New York Times. "The federal indictment of former President Donald J. Trump has unleashed a wave of calls by his supporters for violence and an uprising to defend him, disturbing observers and raising concerns of a warlike atmosphere ahead of his court appearance in Miami on Tuesday," according to the article. "In social media posts and public remarks, close allies of Mr. Trump —including a member of Congress — have portrayed the indictment as an act of war, called for retribution and highlighted the fact that much of his base carries weapons." The analysis further shows that this type of rhetoric could actually make real-life violence more likely. *** The calls to action and threats have been amplified on right-wing media sites and have been met by supportive responses from social media users and cheers from crowds, who have become conditioned over several years by Mr. Trump and his allies to see any efforts to hold him accountable as assaults against him," the New York Times writers wrote Saturday. "Experts on political violence warn that attacks against people or institutions become more likely when elected officials or prominent media figures are able to issue threats or calls for violence with impunity." The article specifically points to the behavior of failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake. “'If you want to get to President Trump, you are going to have go through me, and you are going to have to go through 75 million Americans just like me,' said Lake, the Republican former candidate for governor of Arizona. 'And I’m going to tell you, most of us are card-carrying members of the N.R.A.'"www.rawstory.com/trump-supporter-violent-rhetoric/
|
|
|
Post by hop2 on Jun 11, 2023 10:32:27 GMT
|
|
naby64
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,998
Member is Online
Jun 25, 2014 21:44:13 GMT
|
Post by naby64 on Jun 11, 2023 18:28:00 GMT
I'll watch this later but I'm wondering if he said the same things he just said on Fox. The TV was on in the bedroom as I was putting stuff up. He was saying none of the papers belonged to trump. Absolutely not the daily briefings, etc. All direct opposite of what TFG said. I breezed into the den and said Barr is giving all the complete opposite answers they are looking for. To which my silent DH turned the channel to view. Now, will it matter to the minions? Nope. My mom would still vote for him, DH would vote R no matter who was running.
|
|
|
Post by hop2 on Jun 11, 2023 18:35:48 GMT
I'll watch this later but I'm wondering if he said the same things he just said on Fox. The TV was on in the bedroom as I was putting stuff up. He was saying none of the papers belonged to trump. Absolutely not the daily briefings, etc. All direct opposite of what TFG said. I breezed into the den and said Barr is giving all the complete opposite answers they are looking for. To which my silent DH turned the channel to view. Now, will it matter to the minions? Nope. My mom would still vote for him, DH would vote R no matter who was running. You probably saw the full report of what the reel is from. I was really shocked to see him say the blatant truth.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 11, 2023 18:47:47 GMT
From what I understand this was passed because of Nixon. Now because of the actions of Nixon’s successor trump it’s being tested. From the Presidential Libraries. linkPresidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978“The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of the President from private to public, and established a new statutory structure under which Presidents, and subsequently NARA, must manage the records of their Administrations. The PRA was amended in 2014, which established several new provisions. Specifically, the PRA: * Establishes public ownership of all Presidential records and defines the term Presidential records. * Requires that Vice-Presidential records be treated in the same way as Presidential records. * Places the responsibility for the custody and management of incumbent Presidential records with the President. * Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records. * Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal have been obtained in writing. * Establishes in law that any incumbent Presidential records (whether textual or electronic) held on courtesy storage by the Archivist remain in the exclusive legal custody of the President and that any request or order for access to such records must be made to the President, not NARA. * Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.* Establishes a process by which the President may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the President leaves office; specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years. * Codifies the process by which former and incumbent Presidents conduct reviews for executive privilege prior to public release of records by NARA (which had formerly been governed by Executive order 13489). * Establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain “special access” to records from NARA that remain closed to the public, following a privilege review period by the former and incumbent Presidents; the procedures governing such special access requests continue to be governed by the relevant provisions of E.O. 13489. * Establishes preservation requirements for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts: any individual creating Presidential records must not use non-official electronic messaging accounts unless that individual copies an official account as the message is created or forwards a complete copy of the record to an official messaging account. (A similar provision in the Federal Records Act applies to federal agencies.) * Prevents an individual who has been convicted of a crime related to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records from being given access to any original records.”
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 11, 2023 19:10:31 GMT
These guys have gone off the deep end.
|
|
|
Post by Gem Girl on Jun 11, 2023 19:25:40 GMT
I'll watch this later but I'm wondering if he said the same things he just said on Fox. The TV was on in the bedroom as I was putting stuff up. He was saying none of the papers belonged to trump. Absolutely not the daily briefings, etc. All direct opposite of what TFG said. I breezed into the den and said Barr is giving all the complete opposite answers they are looking for. To which my silent DH turned the channel to view. Now, will it matter to the minions? Nope. My mom would still vote for him, DH would vote R no matter who was running. TFG believes that anything he wants and anything he touches is his. The minions can't back off from him now without feeling that they lose face. As if that matters more than keeping our democracy! www.boystown.org/parenting/questions-and-answers/Pages/two-year-old-in-mine-stage.aspx#:~:text=The%20%E2%80%9Cmine%E2%80%9D%20stage%20is%20perfectly,also%20the%20age%20of%20independence. I'm sorry your family buys into his nonsense.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 11, 2023 23:40:09 GMT
I’m not sure a president should be able to declassify something like this. Or any type of document that have names in them that are our CIA agents and their assets.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 12, 2023 2:22:59 GMT
😀
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 12, 2023 2:31:53 GMT
The problem is the Republicans think everyone should should buy into their view and facts don’t matter. And IF you don’t buy into their narrative then they get busy and pass laws where they can so no one in that state or the country has a choice.
|
|
|
Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 12, 2023 3:33:27 GMT
Tuesday Bedminster golf club is hosting a fund raiser... $2 million... Arraignment day fundraiser expected to rake in $2 million for Trump: report Maya Boddie, Alternet June 11, 2023, 7:39 PM ET A Bedminster, New Jersey golf club owned by former President Donald Trumpwill host the 2024 hopeful's first major campaign fundraiser Tuesday — the same day he is set to be arraigned in Florida, Politico reports. Tuesday's invitation" confirms "supporters who bundle at least $100,000 will attend a private candlelight dinner," and "Those who give less will be rewarded in other ways, including with photo opportunities with Trump and with a 'VIP reception with elected officials & special guests.'" *** Furthermore, the outlet notes "The fundraiser will go towards a joint fundraising committee that will split its proceeds between the Trump campaign, which receives 90 percent of everything raised, and Trump's Save America political action committee, which receives the remaining 10 percent. Trump has been using the PAC to pay for non-campaign-specific activities, such as paying his legal bills."www.rawstory.com/first-trump-2024-fundraiser-expects-to-rake-in-2-million-on-arraignment-day-report-2661210070/
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 12, 2023 4:42:12 GMT
As expected dumpster don has turned on Bill Barr. I just wish when trump says something like “everybody” someone would ask him who exactly is everybody.
|
|
|
Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 12, 2023 5:04:34 GMT
All his followers do not realize how quickly he will turn on them. He has enough of us to abuse as he does well, but he rather dishonor honor his own and they are too indoctrinated to care for themselves...
|
|
|
Post by Scrapper100 on Jun 12, 2023 14:25:15 GMT
It’s been mentioned a few times that some of our “spies” or our allies were caught and killed in early 2021 and they weren’t sure how they were identified. I know I’m not the only one that wonders if that information came from papers TFG had. As horrible as he is I hope he didn’t leak something like that but if he did I it comes out.
|
|
|
Post by onelasttime on Jun 12, 2023 15:27:07 GMT
Only 48% think he should have been charged? Seriously?
|
|