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Post by onelasttime on Jun 8, 2023 16:14:05 GMT
You got to admire his hutzphah. You really do.
While a 28th Amendment as he outlined it makes absolute sense we know it can never happen in this gun crazy country.
But kudos to him for calling for it.
The entire tweet.
NEW: I’m proposing the 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution to help end our nation’s gun violence crisis.
The American people are sick of Congress’ inaction.
The 28th will enshrine 4 widely supported gun safety freedoms -- while leaving the 2nd Amendment intact:
1) Raising the minimum age to purchase a gun to 21
2) Universal background checks
3) A reasonable waiting period for gun purchases
4) Banning the civilian purchase of assault weapons
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 8, 2023 16:23:55 GMT
I was just reading some of the responses by some of the gun crazy citizens.😀
I’m not bringing them here but they are attacking CA and San Francisco as to be expected.
I’m proud of my Governor today even if this isn’t going anywhere.
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Post by iowgirl on Jun 8, 2023 16:38:47 GMT
I think there should be insurance on owning guns, to be able to purchase them. Just like insuring your car.
I am a responsible gun owner, but there has to be something done to stop these shootings.
Behavior has changed, not just for those using firearms in terrible situations.
I don't know if it our online culture or what has made things change so drastically. I have seen several comments lately in my small town area about younger kids and their language at places like the park and swimming pool. Constant F Bombing, etc. I can have a pretty salty tongue, but I do not use that language around general situations. But boy do I hear it.
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 8, 2023 16:58:02 GMT
Now that is a debate I would watch.
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Post by jayfab on Jun 8, 2023 17:05:13 GMT
I wish!
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Post by papersilly on Jun 8, 2023 17:11:59 GMT
The 28th will enshrine 4 widely supported gun safety freedoms -- while leaving the 2nd Amendment intact: 1) Raising the minimum age to purchase a gun to 21 2) Universal background checks 3) A reasonable waiting period for gun purchases 4) Banning the civilian purchase of assault weapons i never understood why these 4 tenets are so unacceptable for some people. i can see why they may get extra ruffled by #4 but i don't know what is so unreasonable about the first three. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 8, 2023 18:23:39 GMT
Self defense from what? Seriously from what?
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 8, 2023 18:28:57 GMT
I think there should be insurance on owning guns, to be able to purchase them. Just like insuring your car. I am a responsible gun owner, but there has to be something done to stop these shootings. Behavior has changed, not just for those using firearms in terrible situations. I don't know if it our online culture or what has made things change so drastically. I have seen several comments lately in my small town area about younger kids and their language at places like the park and swimming pool. Constant F Bombing, etc. I can have a pretty salty tongue, but I do not use that language around general situations. But boy do I hear it. Until I retired I worked in insurance. When I first heard this idea to require insurance I started pondering why? What would people expect it to do? I couldn’t come with a scenario where requiring insurance would change much. So what am I missing? |
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Post by ntsf on Jun 8, 2023 18:29:16 GMT
gavin's career has been always out front on proposing things no one seems to want to do. I remember when he spoke at our son's high school graduation... theme was"women rule".. at that point, every city dept had a woman in charge. almost 10 yrs later, he opened up gay marriage..
interesting idea though. more people do support gun restrictions than don't.
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Post by Gem Girl on Jun 8, 2023 18:40:16 GMT
I think his suggestions are entirely reasonable, and the ignorant reactions are entirely predictable.
It sickens me that many in Congress care more about keeping their own seats (heaven forbid they have to go back to a real job!) than they do about addressing something that's killing so many citizens every day.
As for the assault weapons, it may be worth contemplating whether individuals should be able to apply for a license for one (not an arsenal of them!) for need (one lives in bear country, or has been targeted for violence, as examples).
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Post by amom23 on Jun 8, 2023 19:13:19 GMT
I wish my governor could channel a little Gavin Newsom (who I really like).
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Post by iowgirl on Jun 8, 2023 19:55:00 GMT
Until I retired I worked in insurance. When I first heard this idea to require insurance I started pondering why? What would people expect it to do? I couldn’t come with a scenario where requiring insurance would change much. So what am I missing? It might stop some people from making a purchase. If the insurer would not issue coverage, then no gun. But there are so many ways to purchase guns, I don't know how it could work. |
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Post by scrappinmama on Jun 8, 2023 20:00:35 GMT
I think there should be insurance on owning guns, to be able to purchase them. Just like insuring your car. I am a responsible gun owner, but there has to be something done to stop these shootings. Behavior has changed, not just for those using firearms in terrible situations. I don't know if it our online culture or what has made things change so drastically. I have seen several comments lately in my small town area about younger kids and their language at places like the park and swimming pool. Constant F Bombing, etc. I can have a pretty salty tongue, but I do not use that language around general situations. But boy do I hear it. Hell yes to making it a requirement to have insurance! Why is insurance not required? We have to get car insurance and no one even blinks an eye about that. And for that matter, what about a requirement to pass a test about gun safety? |
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Post by naby64 on Jun 8, 2023 20:17:31 GMT
I think there should be insurance on owning guns, to be able to purchase them. Just like insuring your car. I am a responsible gun owner, but there has to be something done to stop these shootings. Behavior has changed, not just for those using firearms in terrible situations. I don't know if it our online culture or what has made things change so drastically. I have seen several comments lately in my small town area about younger kids and their language at places like the park and swimming pool. Constant F Bombing, etc. I can have a pretty salty tongue, but I do not use that language around general situations. But boy do I hear it. Hell yes to making it a requirement to have insurance! Why is insurance not required? We have to get car insurance and no one even blinks an eye about that. And for that matter, what about a requirement to pass a test about gun safety? I was just sitting here thinking how my brother will always argue back that more cars accidents kill people than guns. I JUST had the thought but we have to have a license to drive that car AND we have to take a test. So at least 2 people are thinking this. |
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Post by onelasttime on Jun 8, 2023 21:26:10 GMT
Insurance would be a way to stop some people from buying guns because they couldn’t afford the insurance?
Or that insurance companies would have a set of requirements that would have to be met before they would write the policy? In other words doing the job of the government?
And if the potential gun owner did have a policy what do you expect it to cover? The aftermath of a mass shooting? That is an illegal act which would be excluded from coverage.
Two things come to mind. The policies would have to be written to actually cover something. I understand there are police’s out there that are connected to the NRA but don’t provide much coverage.
Any policy written is going to be extremely expensive because the potential of any loss being at policy limit is high. Certainly a lot higher than the average loss involving automobiles. Plus the fact any company that writes this insurance will reinsure the majority of the limit to other companies and that will be expensive and will add to the cost of the premium.
Another reason the insurance would be expensive is because I honestly can’t see many companies stepping up to write the coverage.
And even if the potential gun owner can afford the insurance, by making it a requirement to buy a gun will probably be tossed by the Supreme Court as an infringement to the right to own a gun.
As far as requiring potential gun owners to pass a test on gun safety is a good idea. And it might pass the Supreme Court sniff test.
But requiring insurance would have limited results at best in dealing the gun problem in this country. IMO.
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Post by ntsf on Jun 8, 2023 21:56:02 GMT
guns kill more than car accidents now.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jun 8, 2023 23:30:08 GMT
guns kill more than car accidents now. }#^>< wow. That’s nuts. |
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Post by mom on Jun 9, 2023 2:14:27 GMT
guns kill more than car accidents now. I'd like to read about this. Can you send me a link? |
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Post by seaexplore on Jun 9, 2023 2:28:28 GMT
Sounds like the laws CA already has.
Not sure it’s helped with the gun violence here. We have a major ghost gun issue.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 9, 2023 2:37:16 GMT
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Post by mom on Jun 9, 2023 3:29:53 GMT
Ah ok: it’s young adults and kids. I did a quick search but couldn’t find anything but I wasn’t including the words young adults and kids. |
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Post by katlady on Jun 9, 2023 4:53:29 GMT
Sounds like the laws CA already has. Not sure it’s helped with the gun violence here. We have a major ghost gun issue. I found this. I don't know anything about the website, but CA is not in the top 10 of gun deaths. I have to see if there is one that lists overall gun violence, not just deaths. worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-by-state |
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