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Post by morecowbell on Aug 6, 2023 2:48:51 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 6, 2023 3:00:15 GMT
They should televise the trial, put it on pay per view and apply the proceeds to the national debt.
The debt problem would be fixed.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 6, 2023 3:16:04 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 6, 2023 3:21:35 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 6, 2023 3:28:17 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 6, 2023 3:29:52 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2023 3:38:49 GMT
There is only one party, one group that has refused to pay for Medicaid. Including federal and state Republicans. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 4:01:00 GMT
Heather Cox Richardson generally writes about politics, but she’s also a history professor. Todays post is about a battle near the end of the civil war with an uplifting ending. Maybe the 2024 election and fingers crossed, guilty verdicts, will be the end of our civil war and we can finally put Trump in the rear view mirror. heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-5-2023 |
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 6, 2023 4:03:56 GMT
Biden gets 4 Pinocchios
"What is curious is that Kessler and the Post waited for Hunter to effectively confess rather than take notice of money transfers and records released by House committees investigating the corruption scandal. The Post and most of the media have taken little observable journalistic interest in independently confirming such payments or benefits. Instead, the media has adopted a largely passive stance and waited for confessions rather than find confirmation."
"Nevertheless, as with the laptop, there is some credit to be given for eventually confirming what has long been known."
"As with the clearly false claims that he had no knowledge or involvement in these dealings, the question is now not whether Joe Biden has been lying but WHY HE HAS BEEN LYING."
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 4:05:49 GMT
This is about Tuberville blocking nominations, but the conclusion has a broader message. joycevance.substack.com/p/tommy-tuberville-whats-wrong-withWhere does that leave us? Civil discourse is about accurate information; it's about truth. It's about returning to the time when we were an America that operated on a common set of facts. We might disagree about what those facts meant, but we used them as the basis for public conversations about who we wanted to be as a country. That's not what's going on with today's Republican party. This is this what Trump has unleashed on America. But it’s more than Trump. It’s what the Republican Party has seemingly accepted as its fate. It’s unwilling to shake off unacceptable behavior from members like Tuberville. It tolerates far worse from the man it continues to accept as its leader. None of this is a surprise, but the details of Tuberville’s behavior are still shocking. Don’t assume the people around you know them—share the story. There is no civil discourse without shared facts, and sharing them is something we all have the opportunity to do. We’re in this together, |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 4:12:58 GMT
An interview with a military spouse gathering signatures for a petition and fighting the blocked nominations. She makes a really moving case for how the hold continues to negatively impact military families. I only included portions but you can read the full transcript at the link www.npr.org/2023/08/03/1191972814/military-spouses-demanding-sen-tuberville-stop-blocking-military-nominationsMARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST: A few days ago, Tonya Murphy found herself on Capitol Hill, helping to hand-deliver a letter. The letter called for an end to the impasse over military promotions. Hundreds of admiral and general nominees have been stalled since February as Senator Tommy Tuberville, Republican of Alabama, stages a one-man protest to try to change Pentagon abortion policy. Now, this affects not just the nominees but their families, their spouses, including Tonya Murphy. She is married to a Navy commander. Murphy told me when they delivered the petition to senators last week, there were 500 signatures on it. TONYA MURPHY: And it continues to grow. I think at last check, it had nearly 800 signatures on it. As military spouses, living with uncertainty is something that we have become very accustomed to. But there comes a point where it is a point of national defense and security when we're like, we're without service chiefs, right? That's really troublesome. KELLY: Yeah. So if you were back on Capitol Hill right now, if you could have five minutes one-on-one with Senator Tuberville and just say, I need you to listen to me, sir, what would you tell him? MURPHY: That is a really great question. I think I would start with explaining that while in his - according to the things that he has said, he believes that this is a block that is only affecting these specific individuals. It is blind - it is ignorant to think that just by affecting these individuals, you're not affecting their families and you're not affecting their coworkers and you're not affecting every individual who's watching this happen. It is such a bigger issue than just these individuals. I understand that he has his policy disagreement with some of the legislation that the DOD has put out, and there are proper channels in order to address that and to move forward on that. Holding our military members hostage in order to achieve a goal is not the right answer. That is not how you support our troops. Putting them in situations in the current situation where they do not have confirmed leadership is not how you show support to our troops. If you're going to support our troops, support our troops. Do not use them as pawns. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 4:18:12 GMT
More about Trump’s lawyers, conflicts of interest and the PAC paying his legal bills. There’s a lot more at the link including visual diagrams of how the lawyers are connected to witnesses with competing interests www.nytimes.com/2023/08/05/us/politics/trump-charges-lawyer-conflicts.htmlThe legal team that Mr. Trump has assembled to represent him in the twin prosecutions by the special counsel, Jack Smith, is marked by a tangled web of potential conflicts and overlapping interests — so much so that Mr. Smith’s office has started asking questions. While it is not uncommon for lawyers in complex matters — like large mob cases or financial inquiries — to wear many hats or to play competing roles, the Gordian knot of intertwined imperatives in the Trump investigations is particularly intricate and insular. Some of the lawyers involved in the cases are representing both charged defendants and uncharged witnesses. At least one could eventually become a defendant, and another could end up as a witness in one case and Mr. Trump’s defender in a different one. All of that sits atop another thorny fact: Many of the lawyers are being paid by Save America PAC, Mr. Trump’s political action committee, which has itself been under government scrutiny for months. Some of the witnesses those lawyers represent work for the Trump Organization, Mr. Trump’s company, but their legal defense has not been arranged by the company, but rather by Mr. Trump’s own legal team, a person with knowledge of the matter said. Although clients might choose to stick with their lawyers despite a conflict, just this week, prosecutors under Mr. Smith sent up a warning flare about these issues. They asked Judge Aileen M. Cannon, who is overseeing the documents case, to conduct a hearing “regarding potential conflicts” arising from the complex client list of one lawyer, Stanley Woodward Jr. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 4:26:16 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 4:35:00 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 4:37:33 GMT
More legal complications. Top aides could be potential witnesses. www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/05/trump-trial-witnesses-2020-election-charges/Awkwardness in Trump’s circle: Top aides could be trial witnesses Some of Trump’s closest advisers are referenced in charges against him, potentially putting them in a bind as cases advance At least seven currently serving advisers to former president Donald Trump took actions that are mentioned prominently in one of his three criminal indictments or have been interviewed by prosecutors, potentially setting up uncomfortable situations in which they are working for his 2024 presidential bid while also serving as witnesses at one of his upcoming trials. In Trump’s current orbit, advisers say they have tried to separate his legal and political discussions to avoid extra subpoenas to his team, but there is no surefire way to fully separate the two when his legal fate is almost certainly tied to his political fate, and vice versa. The campaign’s messaging and scheduling have become increasingly intertwined with Trump’s criminal defense, making it harder to insulate political aides from legal discussions. The list of advisers who could serve as witnesses is long. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 4:50:02 GMT
A rare victory for voting rights www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/05/mississippi-felons-voting-rights-appeal/Mississippi’s lifetime ban on certain felons voting constitutes cruel and unusual punishment and violates the Eighth Amendment, a federal appeals court ruled Friday, potentially paving the way for tens of thousands to regain their voting rights. A panel of 5th Circuit judges ruled 2-1 in favor of the plaintiffs, writing that the section at issue in Mississippi’s state constitution “ensures that they will never be fully rehabilitated, continues to punish them beyond the term their culpability requires, and serves no protective function to society.” “In so excluding former offenders from a basic aspect of democratic life, often long after their sentences have been served, Mississippi inflicts a disproportionate punishment that has been rejected by a majority of the states and, in the independent judgment of this court informed by our precedents, is at odds with society’s evolving standards of decency,” wrote judge James L. Dennis, joined by judge Carolyn Dineen King, both of whom were appointed by Democratic presidents. If it holds, the decision would affect about 30,000 Mississippians who have served sentences for felonies covered by the disenfranchisement clause, the plaintiffs estimate. The clause dates back to Mississippi’s 1890 constitution, which the state “adopted in reaction to the expansion of Black suffrage and other political rights during Reconstruction,” the ruling notes. The provision applied to felons convicted of crimes that included murder, bribery, theft and perjury, among other crimes. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2023 13:47:53 GMT
Speaking of TFG funding legal fees... Groups in former President Donald Trump’s political network have reported using about $130 million in donor funds to pay lawyers and cover legal costs since he first began running for office, according to a new OpenSecrets analysis. As the former president faces mounting legal issues, his political operation steered more money than ever into covering legal fees. *** Some watchdog groups have raised questions about whether the former president should be continuing to use donor funds to pay his lawyers now that his main political operation is his 2024 presidential campaign. www.rawstory.com/trumps-legal-fees/ |
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 6, 2023 13:58:42 GMT
Information but no discussion. Got it! What I learned yesterday. Do you know what fighter pilots mean when some say “Mom is sprinting “. ”Mom” is the name pilots used to refer to aircraft carriers. When Mom is sprinting it means the ship has increased its speed. Sometimes it’s done to create the wind the pilots need to takeoff from the carrier. Now you know. I got this from a YouTube video. This guy who is a Navy Pilot has released videos of him in the cockpit of a fighter jet and he gives a rather detailed description of what is going on in and out of the cockpit. Most of what he is saying goes right over my head. But boy does he have a nice voice. I mean a really nice voice. Check him out on YouTube. His channel is “Growler Jams”. That is not what I said or implied. There is not point arguing with the troll and when people engage in an incessant back and forth with cowbell the message you are trying to convey gets lost. There are plenty of good discussions on these threads. None of them involve cowbell. I just wanted to add that your passive aggressive posts about me setting parameters and saying "information only, no discussion" are pretty hilarious as the only person you actively engage with is cowbell. You typically just post tweets with comments and I cannot recall the last time you actively engaged in a discussion with anyone. You argue back and forth with cowbell, but I don't think anyone here would call that discussion. And you don't actively discuss anything with anyone else, do you? All I recall from you is posts with tweets and articles with a comment or two from you. If I am wrong I apologize. |
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Post by dawnnikol on Aug 6, 2023 14:04:48 GMT
Speaking of TFG funding legal fees... I'd also read that Dump isn't paying the bills for his rallies.. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 14:06:37 GMT
Speaking of TFG funding legal fees... I'd also read that Dump isn't paying the bills for his rallies.. Did he ever pay for the extra police and security for his rallies back in 2016 or 2020? I thought there was something about his not paying the bills? |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 14:15:12 GMT
That is not what I said or implied. There is not point arguing with the troll and when people engage in an incessant back and forth with cowbell the message you are trying to convey gets lost. There are plenty of good discussions on these threads. None of them involve cowbell. I just wanted to add that your passive aggressive posts about me setting parameters and saying "information only, no discussion" are pretty hilarious as the only person you actively engage with is cowbell. You typically just post tweets with comments and I cannot recall the last time you actively engaged in a discussion with anyone. You argue back and forth with cowbell, but I don't think anyone here would call that discussion. And you don't actively discuss anything with anyone else, do you? All I recall from you is posts with tweets and articles with a comment or two from you. If I am wrong I apologize. There have been a few discussions about whether or not voters are stupid, why people don’t vote, young people in particular, if voting alone will fix things and electric vehicles. On all of those issues, the end result was just we’ll have to agree to disagree. So maybe not really discussions there either. More just back and forth and my way or the highway. |
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Post by hop2 on Aug 6, 2023 14:21:04 GMT
I'd also read that Dump isn't paying the bills for his rallies.. Did he ever pay for the extra police and security for his rallies back in 2016 or 2020? I thought there was something about his not paying the bills? Trump has skipped out on bills since the 80’s so work for him at your own risk |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 14:26:17 GMT
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 6, 2023 14:49:51 GMT
Speaking of TFG funding legal fees... I'd also read that Dump isn't paying the bills for his rallies.. Is anyone surprised? |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 6, 2023 15:28:53 GMT
His idea of a “fair” trial is if he wins.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2023 15:39:48 GMT
His idea of a “fair” trial is if he wins. Documented major errors with Cannon, so guess that trial should be moved with a new judge, NOT that Chutkan has any issues and has been called very fair and yes stern. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 6, 2023 15:50:33 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 6, 2023 16:26:07 GMT
What I learned from Growler Jams on YouTube is when one catapults off “mom” one goes from 0 to 186 mph in 2.5 seconds.
I also learned that the shield thing that pops up behind the jet as it catapults off “mom” has tubes of salt water running through it to keep it cool that is necessary because of the intense heat coming from the jet’s engines in front of it.
Finally he talked about what adjustments pilots and those on the ship need to make when there is heavy wave action and “mom” is not able to provide level landing field for the jets. When the ship is pitching more than a little. Of course I didn’t understand much of it. It just never occurred to me that something as big as “mom” could pitch enough that it would affect the landing of the jets.
Now I know and so do you.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 16:58:12 GMT
Point by point, she breaks down possible legal arguments from Trump's attorneys for the latest charges www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/06/trump-jan-6-indictment-defense-pretrial-arguments/Now the legal wrangling begins. The indictment of Donald Trump lays out four felony counts: conspiracy to defraud the United States; conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding; obstruction and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding; and conspiracy against voting rights.
Trump’s lawyers will surely move to challenge the legal sufficiency of the case, arguing that the allegations, even if true, don’t amount to a crime and filing a motion to dismiss the indictment even before the case goes to trial. I think they’ll lose; even if some charges are knocked out or pared back, prosecutors will be able to proceed on others. Trump will then have to wait for an appeal, if he is convicted, to raise the legal arguments again.
Here are the strongest — although perhaps not all that strong — claims we can expect to hear ahead of trial:
Argument #1: The statutes governing conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and obstruction of an official proceeding (Counts Two and Three) don’t apply here, because that prohibition only covers destruction of evidence and other forms of evidence tampering.
Argument #2: Trump lacked the requisite intent to break the law or to act corruptly, because he believed that he won the election and was only taking steps to vindicate his rights as the supposedly victorious candidate.
Argument #3: Trump relied on advice of counsel in pursuing his quest to remain in office.
Argument #4: The federal civil rights statute under which Trump is accused of conspiring to interfere with the right to vote does not cover the conduct at issue here.
If Trump knows anything, it’s how to manipulate the legal system to his advantage, which in this case means throwing up a lot of arguments to see what will stick, in the hope, above all, of delaying a trial. After all, Trump’s winningest legal strategy would be to return to office and order the prosecution dismissed. But he may not be able to pull that off. An experienced federal judge, Tanya Chutkan, is overseeing the case. A former public defender, she well understands the importance of protecting Trump’s rights, but also that there is a public interest in having a speedy trial. If she rejects Trump’s arguments, his hopes lie in an acquittal or eventual success on appeal. But that is a long way down the road, and almost certainly after the next election. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2023 17:03:43 GMT
Maybe a winning strategy for Democrats? Josh Shapiro might be a great model. He's definitely doing well in PA www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/06/shapiro-pennsylvania-democrats-fixing-politics/Last week’s indictment of Donald Trump brought home the urgency of transforming our nation’s public life. Special counsel Jack Smith lived up to his responsibility by holding the former president accountable for his crimes against democracy. Only politicians can break the grip of Trump’s politics of resentment.
This has long been one of President Biden’s central goals, but his Democratic colleagues at the state and local levels might have the best shot at moving their fellow citizens away from cultural, racial and religious divisions and toward the (often literally) concrete ground of jobs and building things. Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro ranks as one of the most determined and, so far, successful practitioners of this new politics of addition.
You might know Shapiro as the guy who got a collapsed part of Interstate 95 in Philadelphia fixed within 12 days. Given how long public projects take to complete, he deserved all the attention he got for this achievement.
For Shapiro, the I-95 moment is part of a larger task: to prove to voters that government can be effective and also operate in the interest of those who feel left out, left behind and disrespected. “You’ve got to show up everywhere, and you’ve got to speak to everyone, and you've got to speak in plain language and in practical terms,” he told me in an interview last week in the final days of settling a tough state budget fight. He noted that in his 2022 campaign, “I went to counties the Democrats had written off a long time ago and spoke about workforce development and spoke about how we're going to bring back the economy and talked about it in very tangible, practical ways.”
What’s interesting about Shapiro is that he made “real freedom” a signature theme around not only LGBTQ+ and abortion rights but also the aspiration to good jobs and incomes — the “the freedom to chart your own course” and enjoy “the opportunity to succeed,” he said. He’s connecting social rights of particular concern to his suburban constituents with the economic rights sought in blue-collar towns and lower-income big-city neighborhoods.
He’s certainly not alone in this. His party now has a regiment of governors — Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan, Wes Moore in Maryland, Gavin Newsom in California, Maura Healey in Massachusetts and Andy Beshear in Kentucky, to name a few — pushing back against right-wing culture warfare with an emphasis on inclusion and practical achievement. |
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