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Post by scrappysurfer on Dec 14, 2014 16:10:49 GMT
My DH recently got the life changing diagnosis of diabetes. He's devastated but doing well. Within 2 weeks he's lost about 5-8 lbs just by cutting out soda, his digestive system is working better with his improved diet, his energy levels are up and his sugars are well controlled with oral meds.
He dearly misses his sweet treats, especially chocolate. I know he can have some treats, and some sugar free, but he claims (and I agree) they are not the same.
So I need suggestions on diabetic friendly Christmas treats. Everything is so sugar full!! I never realized it before. I'm not a fan of sugar substitutes, I don't like the flavor and I'm not convinced they are even better health-wise that real sugar. And things incorporating chocolate would be extra special for him.
On a side note, what do the peas think of sugar substitutes, in particular Travis & Stevia? Are they "healthier" than 'real' sugar?
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Post by arielsmom on Dec 14, 2014 16:17:03 GMT
Your clinic should be able to refer you to a dietician that can guide you and Dhaka with his new diet. She can also give you ideas. 20 years ago I picked up a dessert cookbook for diabetics. Have not used it since mom passed away 15 years ago but do know that there have been changes in what diabetics are allowed. Good luck. Glad he is feeling better!
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Post by myboysnme on Dec 14, 2014 16:22:46 GMT
People with diabetes can eat sweets but have to make other changes in their diet that day to accommodate, as you already know. Moderation, of course. The dietitian can help as suggested, but he should not feel he is completely deprived.
Of course many sugar free items are high in fat, so again, moderation. As he gets to know his own body he'll know what he can tolerate. I don't know any recipes to offer because I work in a long term care center where at least half the residents have diabetes, but they do enjoy the holiday treats in moderation.
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Post by scrappysurfer on Dec 14, 2014 16:28:09 GMT
We've not yet had his consultation with the nutritionist as he just got the diagnosis this week. His doctor had subtly made suggestions to his diet 3 weeks ago that DH tried, and the doc was able to confirm the diagnosis by the lack of changes in his blood glucose levels even though other things like his energy improved and he lost a bit of weight.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Dec 14, 2014 16:48:35 GMT
I was dx Type 2 7 years ago. Its a complicated disease and everyone's body reacts differently. I have discovered there are no absolutes and what works one day may not work another. The big thing is to not freak out over one glucose reading. It's the cumulative number (A1C) that really let's you know how well you are controlling. My body doesn't like oatmeal, it spikes my sugars. Bananas don't bother. He will learn thru trial and error what works. I have found the biggest control for me is exercise. it drops my number amazingly. A good brisk walk is my lifesaver.
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Post by scrapngranny on Dec 14, 2014 16:49:13 GMT
If it is only one day, I say eat a few of his favorite treats. If it is all the Holiday season, choose one treat per event. Pairing protein with carbs is also a good idea. Also, drink a lot of water.
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Post by BeckyTech on Dec 14, 2014 18:24:17 GMT
In the book "Sugar Busters" they say that chocolate with a cocoa content of 72% or greater is fine in moderation for those cutting refined sugars and some diabetics. So, if he doesn't like dark chocolate now, maybe he can develop a taste for it. I find the Chocolove line of chocolates to be pretty tasty and available at my local vitamin/natural grocery store. I think Whole Foods might carry it as well. You might put that on your list to ask the nutritionist about when you meet. I know the more I eat less carbs and less refined sugars, the less sweets I crave. A small amount of dark chocolate satisfies those cravings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 18:38:43 GMT
I've been a diabetic for ten years and I hate dumbed down food.
I would rather have a single bite of normal every day kind of food then a whole bowl of something that's a Wannabe.
And God help the person who tries to make that choice for me.
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Post by Sassy Sabrina SWZ on Dec 14, 2014 18:45:54 GMT
You obviously know your DH better than a bunch of strangers do, so think about whether he is the type of person who can't have "just one" of something. My cousin, who lives in our home, is an "all-or-nothing"-type person. He finds it much easier to abstain from sweets completely. He also avoids oranges and other sweet fruits and juices. On the rare occasions when there's a dessert in the house (because of having dinner guests), he's likely to binge and justify it as "just this once"--but I see him throw moderation to the winds.
I agree with avoiding the "diabetic" candy and snack foods. They often contain sorbitol or maltitol, which can cause GI problems if you overindulge on them. We've tried giving him a can of mixed nuts as a holiday gift, but the protein is accompanied by lots of fat and salt, and he didn't exercise any restraint there, either. One successful gift was a collection of hot sauces in various flavors.
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Post by BeckyTech on Dec 14, 2014 18:53:02 GMT
You obviously know your DH better than a bunch of strangers do, so think about whether he is the type of person who can't have "just one" of something. My cousin, who lives in our home, is an "all-or-nothing"-type person. He finds it much easier to abstain from sweets completely. He also avoids oranges and other sweet fruits and juices. On the rare occasions when there's a dessert in the house (because of having dinner guests), he's likely to binge and justify it as "just this once"--but I see him throw moderation to the winds. I agree with avoiding the "diabetic" candy and snack foods. They often contain sorbitol or maltitol, which can cause GI problems if you overindulge on them. We've tried giving him a can of mixed nuts as a holiday gift, but the protein is accompanied by lots of fat and salt, and he didn't exercise any restraint there, either. One successful gift was a collection of hot sauces in various flavors. I don't understand how he binges on sweets. Man, since I cut my refined sugars so much, I now get a "sugar hangover" that lasts for a few miserable hours if I eat too much of the sugary stuff, or even things like honey rolls they serve at some restaurants. The crappy sugar hangover I know will come is enough to keep my impulses in check. A small piece of whatever is fine, but binging is completely off the table for me. I agree with the rest of you, diabetic candies and cookies taste like ... yuck!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 18:57:57 GMT
The best thing my family can do for me is to disassociate the word "treat" with anything food related; especially sweet foods. Focus less on dessert types of food and more on activities as treats. It is a treat to play a game together or if food must be a "treat" work on a gourmet recipe that is more complex than normal so that a healthy balanced meal is the treat instead of a sweet.
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Post by scrappysurfer on Dec 14, 2014 19:12:14 GMT
He definitely tends to be a binge eater... It's what got him in this predicament in the first place! So I've been trying to encourage moderation, but he still has a ways to learn what moderation even means portion-wise.
I love holiday baking and I hate the thought of putting all that temptation in front of him. His discipline has never been great but he's learning, and as I said in just a few weeks he's made drastic changes and since he's already seeing results I'm hoping that will be enough to convince him to stay the course.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 19:22:27 GMT
He definitely tends to be a binge eater... It's what got him in this predicament in the first place! So I've been trying to encourage moderation, but he still has a ways to learn what moderation even means portion-wise. I love holiday baking and I hate the thought of putting all that temptation in front of him. His discipline has never been great but he's learning, and as I said in just a few weeks he's made drastic changes and since he's already seeing results I'm hoping that will be enough to convince him to stay the course. He is being asked to give up something he loves (sweets). Can you give up something you love (baking)? Keep in mind his long term health is as important to your life as it is to his. It may be time for both of you to make some major holiday changes and find some new traditions.
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Post by scrappysurfer on Dec 14, 2014 19:27:00 GMT
Oh trust me I'm making changes. I like snacking and sweets too and I've promised to change my diet with him, making a big change like this together will help make it easier for both of us.
Which is why I was hoping for suggestions on baked goods that use less sugar without compromising the taste and holiday spirit. I already know I can't do my usual holiday treats like buckeyes, chocolate crinkle cookies, etc.
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Dec 14, 2014 19:27:41 GMT
yes, I took a diabetes class that was 2 hours / for 4 sessions. we also have access to a diabetic nutritionist. it really does depend on the individual. some people will spike with no indication of why.
they drummed in exercise to us at every session. I bought a chair exercise dvd because I have knee problems.
your husband needs to find his way and do his blood monitoring.
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Post by mama2three on Dec 14, 2014 20:04:28 GMT
My diabetic friend likes to have out for snacks and treats during the holiday season: nut mixes (spicy ones too- just not with a lot of fruit) , cheese balls with whole grain crackers, baked Brie, tray of meats and cheeses with a few grapes and apple slices. Hummus with veggies or whole wheat crackers or pita. Black bean dip with chips or veggies. Peanut butter balls dipped in dark chocolate ( small, and either no sweetener or using stevia)
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Post by Linda on Dec 14, 2014 20:15:08 GMT
as a Type 2 myself (diagnosed in April) - I don't like the artificial sweeteners - they taste off and they don't tend to agree with my digestive system at all.
I'm struggling a bit this Christmas also - I love to bake and I still have children at home who look forward to the holiday treats. If it was just the one day, I would just throw caution to the wind but it's a whole season - Thanksgiving to Epiphany and I just can't do that.
I've cut back on holiday baking - usually I bake all season long and we have goodies every Sunday as part of our Advent celebration. We're still having goodies - but only ONE kind/Sunday and smaller batches so there aren't lots of extras for the rest of the week. I'm focusing on protein and vegetable heavy meals - especially on the holidays themselves so I can 'save' my carbs for holiday treats - and making sure I exercise every day as well.
Pumpkin pie tastes just as good made without a pie crust - it's still not low-carb but it's lower carb that way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 22:01:04 GMT
He definitely tends to be a binge eater... It's what got him in this predicament in the first place! You would be wise to never say this out loud to your husband.
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Post by lindywholoveskids on Dec 14, 2014 22:09:03 GMT
diabetes is a serious disease that affects our bodies in many ways. it's good for him to learn these effects, as he will hopefully with a class.
there are many books available that are helpful as well, such as cookbooks and more medical info-focused.
I have learned to count carbs, and how many carbs I can have at each meal. that's really important. there are pocket guides to food equivalents/serving sizes, etc.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Dec 14, 2014 22:11:27 GMT
I'd suggest that you forego the marathon baking. I think it's asking a lot for you to fill your house with food he enjoys that he needs to limit. I would also be careful about blaming him for developing diabetes. Nobody asks for this disease and it's not always preventable. there are millions of people in this world that have crappy eating habits that don't develop diabetes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 22:16:10 GMT
I like the Russell stovers sugar free chocolate. Especially the marshmallow Santas.
I put it all in the freezer. It tastes better that way.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 14, 2014 22:31:48 GMT
I don't eat the sugar free treats. If you look at the carb count, it's often higher than the regular treat. And it's the carbs that you need to control.
I still bake for my family. But, I make smaller servings of me. Mini cookies/bars/treats is how I handle it. I try to keep a treat under 10 carbs. I go more for treats with nuts because the protein will help balance the blood sugar spike. Also, if a family member has something, I will ask for a taste. I've learned to really roll the treat around in my mouth and get the maximum flavor out of it. I like a sweet after a meal and will usually pick 1-2 M&Ms. After all this time, that's a good treat for me.
Cranberries (not craisins) are a good flavor for this time of year. I make a cranberry sauce with Splenda that I like. Spooned over a half cup of Edy's slow churned ice cream is very good! I use artificial sweeteners in some things. It's just going to be a trial and error right now for him.
Exercise will also help. A lot. In fact, for me it's second only to insulin in keeping my numbers good. I consider it it's own medication. Even a walk around the block after a meal will help out.
Sure, weight can add to blood sugar problems. But there are plenty of overweight people out there who don't have BS problems. For me, the drs feel it was a virus that destroyed my pancreas. So try not to blame your DS too much. Focus on what you can do moving forward.
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Post by SunnySmile on Dec 14, 2014 22:46:27 GMT
He definitely tends to be a binge eater... It's what got him in this predicament in the first place! You would be wise to never say this out loud to your husband. You should listen to this very wise advice, and perhaps realize that you can't eat your way into diabetes, it is MUCH more complicated than that.
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Post by lightetc on Dec 14, 2014 23:34:38 GMT
I'm not diabetic but I do have annoying food restrictions - NO gluten, low dairy and very very limited sugar including fruit.
I like this website - Wholefoodsimply.com and in particular her peanut butter truffles. The balance of protein with the sugar (mostly from fruit) helps me (but obviously your DH had different requirements).
My plan for Christmas this year is to make sure I have safe food readily available - rice crackers, veges and savory dips - so I'm less tempted by the other stuff that makes me very sick. It's exceptionally hard to have all that stuff around. If I were hosting I'd have mostly stuff I can eat - there are plenty of yummy things that do obey the rules that everyone else can enjoy to. These days I just don't have food in my house that makes me sick. This way I only have to exercise my self control when I'm out of the house - much more achievable.
If I were you, then, at least for this year, I'd pass on the baking. Next year, when it's become normal and he's mentally in a better place to deal with it, you can have things in moderation, but speaking as someone who has to constantly miss out - it's extremely hard. Not having temptation around makes it a bit easier.
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Post by conchita on Dec 15, 2014 0:52:05 GMT
Artificial sweeteners don't bother me. On occasion I will have an Atkins meal/snack bar that are really good. I also bake a low carb cheesecake and pumpkin pie with pecan crust. Sometimes if I need a sweet after dinner I chew a piece of gum. There are many flavors out now. But sweets have never been my food weakness. I'd rather snack on olives, pickles, cheese and pecans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 0:54:55 GMT
You would be wise to never say this out loud to your husband. You should listen to this very wise advice, and perhaps realize that you can't eat your way into diabetes, it is MUCH more complicated than that. THANK YOU.
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Post by scrappysurfer on Dec 15, 2014 1:17:28 GMT
You would be wise to never say this out loud to your husband. You should listen to this very wise advice, and perhaps realize that you can't eat your way into diabetes, it is MUCH more complicated than that. I certainly didn't mean to minimalize his diagnosis. I'm a nurse so of course I know it is a complicated disease and that his diagnosis cant be pinpointed to one particular act or habit. My DH has been at higher risk because of genetics (his mother is type 2), sedentary lifestyle and poor diet. I would never go as far as to blame him or his actions for his diagnosis. I appreciate the comments. I was looking for recipe suggestions but it looks like it's just not that simple. I don't have time for marathon baking but we all like to have something sweet and I have to bake for a work party so we all just have to discipline ourselves until we know more about what his body can and can't have.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 1:49:19 GMT
He definitely tends to be a binge eater... It's what got him in this predicament in the first place! So I've been trying to encourage moderation, but he still has a ways to learn what moderation even means portion-wise. I love holiday baking and I hate the thought of putting all that temptation in front of him. His discipline has never been great but he's learning, and as I said in just a few weeks he's made drastic changes and since he's already seeing results I'm hoping that will be enough to convince him to stay the course. I certainly didn't mean to minimalize his diagnosis. I'm a nurse so of course I know it is a complicated disease and that his diagnosis cant be pinpointed to one particular act or habit. My DH has been at higher risk because of genetics (his mother is type 2), sedentary lifestyle and poor diet. I would never go as far as to blame him or his actions for his diagnosis. I appreciate the comments. I was looking for recipe suggestions but it looks like it's just not that simple. I don't have time for marathon baking but we all like to have something sweet and I have to bake for a work party so we all just have to discipline ourselves until we know more about what his body can and can't have. But you DID blame his binge eating on being what got him in this predicament. Ideally, you will give up baking for this year, even for a work party, until he has learned his limits. You can take food to a work party without having to make bake a sweet. Your husband needs your support if he is going to succeed. Baking is your decision to not support him.
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Post by Sassy Sabrina SWZ on Dec 15, 2014 2:18:27 GMT
I didn't suggest this earlier because it doesn't contain chocolate. But if your family likes puddings, it's healthful, easy to make, and diabetic friendly:
Pumpkin Mousse
Ingredients 1-1/2 cups cold fat-free milk 1 package (1 ounce) sugar-free instant butterscotch pudding mix 1/2 cup canned pumpkin 1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon 1/4 teaspoon ground ginger 1/4 teaspoon ground allspice 1 cup fat-free whipped topping, divided
Directions In a large bowl, whisk milk and pudding mix for 2 minutes. Let stand for 2 minutes or until soft-set. Combine the pumpkin, cinnamon, ginger and allspice; fold into pudding. Fold in 1/2 cup whipped topping. Transfer to individual serving dishes. Refrigerate until serving. Garnish with remaining whipped topping.
Yield: 4 servings.
Nutritional Facts: 2/3 cup mousse with 2 tablespoons whipped topping equals 96 calories, trace fat (trace saturated fat), 2 mg cholesterol, 360 mg sodium, 18 g carbohydrate, 1 g fiber, 4 g protein. Diabetic Exchanges: 1/2 starch, 1/2 fat-free milk.
Originally published as Pumpkin Mousse in Light & Tasty December/January 2007, p55
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Post by scrappysurfer on Dec 15, 2014 3:13:08 GMT
He definitely tends to be a binge eater... It's what got him in this predicament in the first place! So I've been trying to encourage moderation, but he still has a ways to learn what moderation even means portion-wise. I love holiday baking and I hate the thought of putting all that temptation in front of him. His discipline has never been great but he's learning, and as I said in just a few weeks he's made drastic changes and since he's already seeing results I'm hoping that will be enough to convince him to stay the course. I certainly didn't mean to minimalize his diagnosis. I'm a nurse so of course I know it is a complicated disease and that his diagnosis cant be pinpointed to one particular act or habit. My DH has been at higher risk because of genetics (his mother is type 2), sedentary lifestyle and poor diet. I would never go as far as to blame him or his actions for his diagnosis. I appreciate the comments. I was looking for recipe suggestions but it looks like it's just not that simple. I don't have time for marathon baking but we all like to have something sweet and I have to bake for a work party so we all just have to discipline ourselves until we know more about what his body can and can't have. But you DID blame his binge eating on being what got him in this predicament. Ideally, you will give up baking for this year, even for a work party, until he has learned his limits. You can take food to a work party without having to make bake a sweet. Your husband needs your support if he is going to succeed. Baking is your decision to not support him. You're making a big leap in saying I'm making a decision to not support him. That's not true at all. It's why I posted this thread in the first place. I was looking for ideas that would be appropriate. I was never planning on making my usual load of sweets specifically because he can't have them. My comment on his eating habit isn't blame, it's a fact. He was at higher risk, he knew this, did nothing to adjust for it, and now he's diagnosed. Yes there is a certain level of responsibility that can be assumed when given facts and consequences. The odds were against him and he did not beat the odds. It doesn't mean I'm not supporting him. I'm making diet changes as well to make it easier on him. I'm not rubbing in his face that he could have avoided this, because for all I know he could have done everything appropriate to avoid it and still developed the disease. What matters is we are accepting it and making the appropriate changes to our life to adapt. I wanted to bake for christmas but I also wanted to check if there were any special things that anyone could suggest that I hadn't considered. Obviously there aren't many so I'm going to adjust my plan accordingly.
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