blemon
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Post by blemon on Sept 7, 2023 15:08:03 GMT
I think I'm going to bite the bullet and buy a die cut machine.
I have seen a bunch on ebay.
I either want to get a used one or just cheap knock off one.
What do I get and why?
I've seen big shot and sizzix and sidekick and we r memory keepers and so many more.
I can get a red sidekick for $20 used.
I have a silhouette portrait. So I don't think I need anything big.
I want to buy cheap dies from aliexpress and also I like what Elle's Studio has.
Can you point me in a direction?
Thanks!
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lindas
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Post by lindas on Sept 7, 2023 15:48:43 GMT
I like my little sidekick but it only gives you 2.5” x 4.75” of cutting space so if you get dies larger then that you can’t use the sidekick. eBay is probably your best bet for a used big shot or Cuttlebug. I personally wouldn’t waste money on a knockoff.
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MDscrapaholic
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Sept 7, 2023 15:50:55 GMT
I have a Big Shot - had it for almost 10 years and it's still going strong.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Sept 7, 2023 15:53:48 GMT
I agree that the Sidekick is too small. I got rid of mine.
Big Shot and Big Kick are essentially the same machine. Both are stable on a table, and easy to use. They are good machines.
If you have carpal tunnel, or problems turning a crank, then go with electric driven. Otherwise I’d go with Big Shot or Big Kick.
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Shakti
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Post by Shakti on Sept 7, 2023 17:20:45 GMT
I'm not sure how big your Silhouette is, so I'm not sure what "not anything big" means.
I have both a Spellbinders P6 (~9x6 cutting area) and a Hero Arts Compact Cutter (~3 x 8.5). I love them both and find they have different purposes. For larger dies or making many die cuts at once, I get out the P6. To cut something small, like just a single sentiment or single small die because one teensy piece went missing after a bigger cutting session, I can grab the CC and just make a quick cut.
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Post by kkrenn on Sept 7, 2023 19:26:00 GMT
I would avoid a knockoff like the plague.
I have a Vagabond 2 electric die cut machine due to trouble using my hands and its a blessing. I also have the Stampin Up mini die cut machine that I have for small non-intricate dies, I can't use it a lot due to my disability but if I have a friend crafting with me they help.
I hope you find an amazing deal!
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Post by honeypea on Sept 7, 2023 19:29:50 GMT
I went with the spellbinders platinum 6. I liked that it could accommodate bigger dies and that it folded up pretty compactly.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 7, 2023 19:33:54 GMT
I’d also avoid a knock-off.
A couple of years ago I was given the Gemini and I really love it. But this year I re-discovered foiling and whatever technique the Betterpress uses. There is a foiling add-on for the Gemini, but I don’t like it as much as I like the glimmer plate. So I’d consider what else I want my die cutter to be able to do, which system I want to use to do it, and if it’s compatible with the machine I’m considering.
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Post by mom on Sept 7, 2023 19:46:02 GMT
I have the Sizzix Big Shot Express and I love it--- it's easy to use because it doesn't have a hand crank. It just feeds the die itself.
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blemon
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Post by blemon on Sept 7, 2023 20:31:17 GMT
Ok, this is all super helpful.
I guess I need to start by learning what they can do.
I love the idea of it folding up and would definitely pay extra for that.
I also mean by having a silhouette portrait (8" wide), is that if I need to cut something big, I'll just use that. So I think I can go smaller with the die cutting machine. But I definitely don't want to go so small that I can't use it for most things.
I think embossing looks cool and I want to try that. I looked up that thing that I liked from Tim Holtz that looks like all the decorations fell down after prom and people have done some gorgeous things with it. But I also feel like once I do something one time, I won't want to do it again.
This seems like a really big investment.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 7, 2023 20:49:33 GMT
I think you can do embossing with all of them, someone correct me if I’m wrong please!
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PaperAngel
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Post by PaperAngel on Sept 8, 2023 0:28:52 GMT
I have & recommend the Sizzix Big Kick & Sizzix Sidekick. Both are used frequently. The smaller Sidekick is convenient for cutting a quick label, tag, letters, etc. (up to 2.5" wide), while the Big Kick handles standard embossing folders, larger (up to 6" wide) dies, several letters at once, etc. HTH.
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Post by Linda on Sept 8, 2023 1:19:17 GMT
I had an Epic Six (Quickutz) and it worked great until the handle broke off and because it's not been made in years, the plates were getting really hard to find. I replaced it with a Gemini Jr - it's a good size for me as I scrap 8.5x11 and make cards so don't need 12x12 capacity (and I have a Cricut if I do) and I love that I don't have to crank it myself (I have arthritis). Both of mine emboss and use pretty much any thin die...
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Post by artisticscrapper on Sept 8, 2023 4:06:51 GMT
I suggest you pay a bit more and buy a good machine. They’re sturdy and will last longer. Also the die cuts will come out better, especially important if you’re using cheap dies. Both will cut most dies and embossing folders.
I have the Sizzix Foldaway Big Shot. The platforms fold upward so the footprint is small. I also have the electronic Gemini Jr. Both are great machines.
You can check pricing on Amazon. Also try Joann. They run a lot of sales.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Sept 8, 2023 7:03:57 GMT
Facebook marketplace is where I find a lot of gems, even in my area that doesn't have as many craft offerings listed compared to the states nearby that populate as suggestions when my keywords and instruction to search locally don't yield many results. I even got a free die cutter (new in box plus dies and extra cutting plates) last month that someone was getting rid of from their business that cuts the big wooden dies and all I need to use all of my plastic ones is an adapter plate for $20 plus tax (the machine retails for about $400 new but usually lists without dies for over $100...the Prestige Pro or something like that). If you aren't particular on age and you're patient, I am sure deals will pop up. I wasn't even looking for the free one, but I search craft supplies so often that the algorithm suggests products that use the same or similar keywords. Browsing marketplace is one of many things I do when waiting for my kids to get out of school and it has helped me find so many things I didn't know I needed, lol.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 8, 2023 10:56:05 GMT
I like my little sidekick but it only gives you 2.5” x 4.75” of cutting space so if you get dies larger then that you can’t use the sidekick. eBay is probably your best bet for a used big shot or Cuttlebug. I personally wouldn’t waste money on a knockoff. 2.5” x however long a plate you have & they do have a 12.5” plate. LOL ( I have it but haven’t used it 🤣 ) While I like my sidekick, I suggest if buying a mini machine you choose one that does 3” dies. The difference is quite a bit. That extra 1/2” opens the door for so many new dies. I have ( had ) a sidekick that broke after 15 years and a WeR that I bought 2nd hand. The little WeR machine has 3” wide plates it cuts so many more dies than my sidekick but I don’t think it’s as tough as my sidekick was. And some dies just won’t go thru, too thick or something. Even with the thinner plate. The Bira machine also has 3” and it looks suspiciously like a WeR machine in a different color The Gemini mini also has 3” wide plates And the Anna griffin motorized one is also the wider size mini. That is the extent of my die cutter knowledge & experience
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anaterra
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Post by anaterra on Sept 8, 2023 15:44:07 GMT
I asked this awhile back... between the big shot and the platinum 6... I ended up getting the Spellbinders platinum 6.. I like that it folds up.. it also has other things that go with it besides the embossing... the foil system and the better press.. I dont have those yet but I will ask for the better press for Christmas...
I like it.. I do have a silhouette.. but its a cameo.. so a lot bigger.. I like that this is easier to just get out for a quick scrap or card making session...
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Post by scrappymeg on Sept 8, 2023 16:06:22 GMT
I asked this awhile back... between the big shot and the platinum 6... I ended up getting the Spellbinders platinum 6.. I like that it folds up.. it also has other things that go with it besides the embossing... the foil system and the better press.. I dont have those yet but I will ask for the better press for Christmas... I like it.. I do have a silhouette.. but its a cameo.. so a lot bigger.. I like that this is easier to just get out for a quick scrap or card making session... I love the Platinum 6. I had a Big Shot and I wasn't a fan of how it handled some dies. The Platinum is easier for me to store, and so far it has cut like butter for me.
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basketdiva
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Post by basketdiva on Sept 8, 2023 16:36:43 GMT
If you are looking for a used one I'd suggest the Vagabond ( it folds up) or if there is one available, Big Shot Express.
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blemon
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Post by blemon on Sept 8, 2023 17:43:53 GMT
You guys are such a wealth of information! Thank you all.
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Post by joblackford on Sept 8, 2023 19:28:04 GMT
I think embossing looks cool and I want to try that. I looked up that thing that I liked from Tim Holtz that looks like all the decorations fell down after prom and people have done some gorgeous things with it. But I also feel like once I do something one time, I won't want to do it again. This seems like a really big investment. Embossing folders are very fun, there's lot of techniques you can do with them, and they're mostly cheap to buy. But they're very unstandardized - I only have a handful but they're almost all different sizes roughly 4x5.5, 4x6ish, 5x7ish, and 6x6. There are thin narrow ones for borders too but they're the only ones that would fit in one of the mini machines. I have a Big Shot but if I was buying again I'd probably get a Spellbinders Platinum 6 or a Gemini Jr. The folding platform bit saves some space, and it looks nice. But you do have to keep your plates elsewhere. I keep my plates in my machine all the time but it takes up a big chunk of my desk. They're all heavy by design - even as heavy as mine is it wiggles around my table as I crank unless I press down a bit on the top handle. And yeah, they're pricey, and there are usually different bundles where you get a bunch of dies (you might want) with them. I got mine from scrapbk dot com during a Black Friday sale. Getting something very cool and then being done with it after one session is a very real problem, both for embossing folders and dies. And they're not cheap. As I speak I'm trying to resist the ad below this reply box - it's tempting me with a beautiful fox die and another one the one with 3 different animals where the fox is more stylized, so maybe I need them both...? ugh! But the machine will prove very useful year after year. I resisted getting one for quite a while but I use it all the time now and have tried lots of different things with it. I like the smooth cut it gives compared to the electronic cutters, and a lot of dies add texture or faux stitching that I love. It's a slippery slope of spending though, for sure... You should also know that the cutting plates are a consumable. They last a decent amount of time but you will have to replace them periodically. I agree that Marketplace would be a good hunting ground. Try Craiglist too? Being hella heavy they're going to cost a lot to ship so eBay is not such a good option. If I lived on your side of the country I'd sell you mine for cheap and get a Platinum or Gemini, but I just bought a magnetic platform for my BS and I'm expecting it will last me many more years.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 8, 2023 20:06:51 GMT
Hands down a Big Shot or Big Kick. We have them in our second hand craft store all of the time for around $20.
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Post by teacherlisa on Sept 8, 2023 21:52:09 GMT
I have/love my big shot. I did get it second hand to save money also. I have had it more than 10 years.
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blemon
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Post by blemon on Sept 9, 2023 0:58:55 GMT
our second hand craft store Sounds heavenly. I wouldn't know what to do with myself in such a place.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 9, 2023 3:54:40 GMT
our second hand craft store Sounds heavenly. I wouldn't know what to do with myself in such a place. I learned quickly. Visit often. Lots of times I walk out empty handed, but some days are just amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2023 10:53:56 GMT
We have them in our second hand craft store all of the time for around $20. I’m so jealous you have a second hand craft store.
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Post by hoopsfn on Sept 9, 2023 13:56:23 GMT
I've had a Big Kick for around 15 years and it still works great. I don't have a lot of dies but haven't had any trouble cutting any metal dies with the BK. I've had to replace the cutting pads once (warping) and I've purchased the pliable pads fr sb.com to try soon. I don't have an electric cutter but have thought about buying a Portrait blemon. Did it take long to learn how to operate it? I'm not very good with computer-y things.
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blemon
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Post by blemon on Sept 9, 2023 15:02:53 GMT
I don't have an electric cutter but have thought about buying a Portrait blemon. Did it take long to learn how to operate it? I'm not very good with computer-y things. This is the magic question. You have to just get in there and use it and waste paper and you'll figure it out. It's really not hard but I wasn't using it enough so every time I would pull it out I would have to figure it out again. I think now I have enough hours in and I'm good to go. But I have an older model and it doesn't print and cut properly the way the new models do. I have a work around but again, that was trial and error. I love it and I love what I can do with it. But it's a hassle for me since I don't have a craft space. I have to get it out, get out a little table, plug it in, then do all the things. There are also a million tutorials online, both free and ones you can pay for. The resources are there for you to figure it out. My one piece of advice is to not buy any files until you know you're going to use them.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 9, 2023 15:25:10 GMT
We have them in our second hand craft store all of the time for around $20. I’m so jealous you have a second hand craft store. I go once a week and find so many good things. For several months, we had Lawn Fawn die and stamp sets (never used) there for $8 a set. One time I found a big set for that price and looked online and they were originally $75. It was a snow globe set.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Sept 9, 2023 15:38:03 GMT
I don't have an electric cutter but have thought about buying a Portrait blemon . Did it take long to learn how to operate it? I'm not very good with computer-y things. Silhouette has fabulous software with greater capability to do what you want, including create your own designs. Cricut is a comparable machine, but the software is more basic. I personally detest the Cricut software. However, Silhouette’s software has a bit more of a learning curve. If you are intimidated at the thought of learning graphic software, go with Cricut, but it is more limited, IMO. I use my Silhouette Cameo 3 for nearly everything. I do use my Cricut Explore Air 2 occasionally, but not as often. If you are a stamper, there is a third main option for electronic cutter: Brother Scan-N-Cut. You can use your Silhouette for cutting out stamps, too, but the SNC is easier and faster. Yes, I have that, too. I saved over time for each machine, and bought each machine with a time gap of years between purchasing.
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