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Post by Lexica on Sept 9, 2023 18:32:46 GMT
The owner completely raised the original house and built this in its place. He said there isn’t even a blade of grass on the lot from the prior home. Why did he knock down the old home? It was the site of the Tate and others murders by the Manson family. The new owner even petitioned for a new address since the original address was so famous. It is now 10066 instead of 10050. Could you live here? Obviously none of could afford (I am assuming) the place at over $50 million, but if you could, would you or would you feel the space haunted in some way from the horrible tragedy that occurred there? www.zillow.com/homedetails/10066-Cielo-Dr-Beverly-Hills-CA-90210/243990393_zpid/
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 9, 2023 18:46:20 GMT
NOPE. The history is just too gruesome and sad. Leslie Van Houten might be off of drugs and remorseful and that's a positive thing, but that doesn't forgive, nor does it exonerate her from cruel, terrible crimes. She should be in jail until she dies. If she's truly remorseful then maybe she'll have a chance in her next life or whatever.
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Post by epeanymous on Sept 9, 2023 18:46:36 GMT
I rented an apartment once in which someone was murdered, and they didn't do anything except clean the place. With all respect to the victim, it didn't bother me in the least, so yes, if I had the money and liked the house, I'd have no issue.
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Post by pilcas on Sept 9, 2023 18:47:27 GMT
I am not superstitious so if a long lost uncle left me a few millions on his will I would not hesitate. It’s a very elegant house, not that I need all that space.
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Post by chaosisapony on Sept 9, 2023 18:50:57 GMT
I don't believe in ghosts/hauntings so that wouldn't deter me from living there. However, I do feel like I wouldn't ever be able to put the crimes out of my mind and I'd spend too much time thinking about the sadness so I would not want to live there.
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Post by wellway on Sept 9, 2023 18:51:23 GMT
If I had 50 million to spend, I won't even pick Beverley Hills. The murder site would just add to the reasons not to buy there.
Here in the UK, there was a couple called Fred and Rose West who carried out murders at their house. It was in a row of houses, the house was demolished to stop people coming to gawk. The space was turned into a pathway, I believe.
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Post by moodyblue on Sept 9, 2023 19:03:04 GMT
The view alone is worth millions.
It’s a beautiful house. I'd never need that much space, but if I had the money and wanted something that big, I don’t know that I’d rule it out based on the history.
Having a different address for it is a good idea, as is totally wiping out anything that was there before.
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Post by busy on Sept 9, 2023 19:14:51 GMT
I wouldn’t say no for superstitious reasons but I would say no because of the certain freaks that would be attracted to the location.
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Post by ~summer~ on Sept 9, 2023 19:15:12 GMT
I would have no issue.
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Post by caangel on Sept 9, 2023 19:51:36 GMT
I wouldn’t say no for superstitious reasons but I would say no because of the certain freaks that would be attracted to the location. And people who would not consider it resale-wise due to it's history. If I had that much money no need for me to settle for something with that much baggage.
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Post by katlady on Sept 9, 2023 20:16:04 GMT
I wouldn’t say no for superstitious reasons but I would say no because of the certain freaks that would be attracted to the location. This! I don’t need Manson weirdos showing up on my doorstep. ETA - But the house has a gorgeous view and I love the pool.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 9, 2023 20:17:15 GMT
I wouldn’t say no for superstitious reasons but I would say no because of the certain freaks that would be attracted to the location. This would be my issue. The Ramsey house went up for sale when we were looking in Boulder and was way under market because of the history. I wouldn't consider it for the freak factor.
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Post by Bridget in MD on Sept 9, 2023 20:35:49 GMT
I wouldn’t say no for superstitious reasons but I would say no because of the certain freaks that would be attracted to the location. This! I don’t need Manson weirdos showing up on my doorstep. ETA - But the house has a gorgeous view and I love the pool. Same. The views are amazing. I don't know why but I always thought the house was in a wooded neighborhood, didn't the next door neighbors hear things and get killed too? I thought the property was hidden by trees, and therefore kept out of view so no one knew of the carnage until later.... so to see it on a cliff like that really surprised me.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Sept 9, 2023 20:40:15 GMT
No. The history of the place-location is horrific. I wouldn't be able to live there.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 9, 2023 20:57:50 GMT
It’s absolutely gorgeous but yeah I wouldn’t want to more for the stalkers than anything else. The street view does make it pretty hidden. Also don’t know if I could get past the crime. Not the ghosts but just the idea. It is gorgeous and has amazing views though. But if I had the money would look elsewhere.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 9, 2023 20:58:29 GMT
This! I don’t need Manson weirdos showing up on my doorstep. ETA - But the house has a gorgeous view and I love the pool. Same. The views are amazing. I don't know why but I always thought the house was in a wooded neighborhood, didn't the next door neighbors hear things and get killed too? I thought the property was hidden by trees, and therefore kept out of view so no one knew of the carnage until later.... so to see it on a cliff like that really surprised me. If you go to the map and look at street view it is hidden.
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Post by auntiepeas on Sept 9, 2023 21:00:38 GMT
That's a stunning property. Hmmm, it would depend a lot on the feel of the property but where the scene of the crime was raised and what stands there now is a completely new build then I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. Here in NZ the Dunedin location where five members of the Bain family were found dead in their home, one of our country's most controversial murders, was burned to the ground less than three weeks after the event and the house that stands there now was built about two years later (1996). The replacement home was built by a couple who lived opposite the Bain's in the 90s. It was sold in 2019 by the wife, who had been widowed two years earlier, because it was too big for her.
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Post by paulao on Sept 9, 2023 22:47:17 GMT
Razed the house, as in completely destroy. I don’t know if I would live there. Even pictures of Manson scare me. He is/was pure evil.
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Post by peabay on Sept 9, 2023 23:14:39 GMT
No, only because of the "lookie loos" - don't need the ghoulish tourists.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 9, 2023 23:19:17 GMT
I mean, there wouldn’t be room for all my cars but otherwise, yes I could. There’s a lot I love about it, but too much heavy wood for my tastes. With the original house having been raised the history wouldn’t be a deciding factor for me unless it got a lot of traffic due to it.
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Post by AussieMeg on Sept 9, 2023 23:37:46 GMT
I was going to say that yes, I could happily live in that house, or any house that had a terrible history. But I didn't consider the fact that people would be coming up there all the time for a sticky beak. That would be off-putting.
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Post by lesley on Sept 9, 2023 23:44:31 GMT
I love the pool area, but the rest of the house isn’t to my taste at all. It's too dark, with too much dark wood, especially the beamed ceilings. Sigh. I’ll just need to keep searching. 😄
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Post by cakediva on Sept 9, 2023 23:49:52 GMT
Hubby says he could live there during the day but he’d need a second home to sleep in….it’s still the lot 🤣🤣
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Post by Zee on Sept 10, 2023 0:12:29 GMT
Sure. I'm not into ghosts or hauntings. It could be haunted but I'd never notice!
But such a sad story. 😞
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Post by librarylady on Sept 10, 2023 0:34:20 GMT
I don't think so. It is a stunning view, but I didn't see a room in the house that made me excited to own it. I do think that even with the address being changed and the physical house being changed, people who are really invested in the Manson family story would stalk the place. I would not want to deal with that.
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Post by twistedscissors on Sept 10, 2023 1:20:43 GMT
I can move in tomorrow if someone wants to give me the money to buy it. 😂😂
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Post by scrappyesq on Sept 10, 2023 2:47:33 GMT
I said yes when I looked at the photos, but absolutely not when I read the details about what took place there. Knock down or not.
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Post by alsomsknit on Sept 10, 2023 14:10:07 GMT
Sure.
The lot may have a history. The house is not the same house. I don’t believe in hauntings/ghosts. However, I do know a house can feel happy or depressing. This house hasn’t seen violence to feel depressing or dark.
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Post by delila on Sept 10, 2023 14:13:38 GMT
It is not dead people we should be afraid of but we should be very afraid of living people who got the dead people in the situation they are in.
They would not be dead if someone didn’t kill them
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 10, 2023 14:21:33 GMT
No, but not because of the ick factor. The house is much too large for my taste. It’s beautiful though.If I were a millionaire, I would build a much smaller luxury home.
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